EgunMogaji:

You won't kill me with laughter this morning my Oga
I now know why most don;t post their builds on this site. A mere 2 car garage is getting some into a hypocondriac fit. This is even after I pared down my build.

What if I had went along with my original design?

abouzaid:
thanks for that nice start, however the proposed project is significantly less in size and finishing than your projects. the original house was designed for a 50x50 plot and the dimensions are masters 12x12, other rooms 10x12 living room 14.5x14.5, dining 8x14.5, kitchen 9x9.5, store 3x6.5,laundry closet 3x5, front veranda 6x14.5. the areas are Niger state and anambra state and are not prone to flooding. windows are glass louvers while internal doors are wooden locals, ceiling board is nigerlite cement fibres ceiling boards(often erroneously still called asbestos) while the living and dining rooms would be pvc, tiles only in bathrooms and wet area in the kitchen, no arches or designed pillars(columns). floor finishing would be cement plastering. electricals would be good old black and white switches, roofing sheets would be zinc. I'm actually working on a new design that would be slightly larger than this but let's work with what we have now. thanks

smiley001:
I love dis thread, I'm learning...

mufutau55:


You know. I am also happy this thread was opened... If not where could be discussing varieties of topics like this.

Hajji M.

brabus:

Less of thread derailing this days. Thank you Hajji M. for giving us this platform.

mufutau55:


You know. I am also happy this thread was opened... If not where could be discussing varieties of topics like this.

Hajji M.

KolaShangOne:


Oga Abouzaid, the bolded statement where you BELIEVE they make 70 blocks per bag shows you don't have practical Knowledge yet. I own a little block industry So I know what I'm saying..
You need to do more bro..

NL1960:


With these requirements,, i believe the 2m-2.5m will handle the building. Farmers in the villages do not always have 2m-2.5m and they build a basic 4-bedroom bungalow like this.

mufutau55:


Wow! This was your original plan for the house/ranch in Nigeria? Money good oh, please Baba God, no forget me too o!

Hajji M.

abouzaid:
that's a question i can only answer when i have built it but I'm rather disappointed with our builders here for their hypocritical attitude because of the way most of them have always played the ostrich whenever issues like this are raised, i remember when i asked the six inches foundation question, it was only you and oga Abdul that sticked their necks out to take a stand even when I'm aware of threads by other builders here who have done the same successfully. simple cost analysis for a house measuring 43x40 has seen them going deaf and dumb while how many blocks can you get from a bag of cement is now a question beyond their knowledge. i comment my reserve for all of them.

EgunMogaji:

My Oga patapata, if we combine all your vast rental units and houses in the village they surpass this twenty times
Na small retirement home for me and the Missus I wan build o.
Should I explain the difference between rich and wealthy? Again?

EgunMogaji:


Farmers have a different building requirement from a modern build.

Though they are not excluded but I've never seen a farmer post his build on Nairaland.

NL1960:


Who told you?. Do you know if some builders posting on Nairaland have built for farmers in the village.

The poster making the proposal have outlined the simple nature of the house and the terrain.

Babs612000:

Please how many blocks of 6" can we get in a bag of cement for we that don't know.

Babs612000:

Please how many blocks of 6" can we get in a bag of cement for we that don't know.

Dieumerci:

Yes Sir, no more comments.
Some of us know what is going on here.

abouzaid:
please search"how many blocks can you get from a bag of cement nairaland" on Google and read through the results to know the truth. even you would be miffed by the hypocrisy been displayed on this thread.please read this particular page www.nairaland.com/755766/technology-block-making/1where the most respected builder once again declared that 43-44 blocks per bag would yield a very strong block yet that particular builder and others who have used a similar ratio are on this thread and refuse to say the truth. a certain builder who claimed to own a block industry claimed that i would need 80 bags of cement for a German floor yet go through the construction threads on nairaland and tell me how many houses used upto 60 bags for a German floor whereas all those houses are far bigger than what i proposed here. i can sense the hypocrisy among the builders here from a mile away but i comment my reserve for now.

abouzaid:
please search"how many blocks can you get from a bag of cement nairaland" on Google and read through the results to know the truth. even you would be miffed by the hypocrisy been displayed on this thread.please read this particular page where the most respected builder once again declared that 43-44 blocks per bag would yield a very strong block yet that particular builder and others who have used a similar ratio are on this thread and refuse to say the truth. a certain builder who claimed to own a block industry claimed that i would need 80 bags of cement for a German floor yet go through the construction threads on nairaland and tell me how many houses used upto 60 bags for a German floor whereas all those houses are far bigger than what i proposed here. i can sense the hypocrisy among the builders here from a mile away but i comment my reserve for now.

befto:
Fellow NL,
Just need some advice on a few things.
I am currently in the process of finishing the first floor of my project which will lead into the roofing stage,
I plan on stopping for christmas in the first week of December and looking to continue in March/April when God blesses us with more funds.
I still have a long way but I am breaking things down into phases/milestones.
For now I plan on doing the roof, windows and doors by xmas.
Is this advicable? One school of thought says go for it and knock these out of the way and another says that I should only do the roof and leave the others till next year when I plan on doing more. The reason being that if I do the windows and doors now then there is some chance of getting them damaged/stolen etc before I continue again.
I just want to seek your opinion on the pro/cons of doing them now as opposed to next year when I plan on doing more.
I am definitely doing the roof so what's in question is whether to do the doors and windows now as well.

As usual thanks for all your candid responses

abdulwastecx:


i am looking at this simple three bedroom flat, all room en-suit
take a look at this 3D pics

abdulwastecx:
polystyrene fascia: a way to save cost and reduce load on a building

abouzaid:
oga mu, I'm not really upto date on all these newest products entering into the Nigerian market, they just need to advertise their products more aggressively because it seems and her competitors are really rolling out new products. however since it's petrochemical based product i expect it to be a cost saver, can you gist us more about the roof? i also like the compact nature of the building. the veranda/car port combination is always a cost saver.

EgunMogaji:


How heavy are this and does it still need pillars?

Thanks for sharing.

I know you are always very detailed on your offerings and I look forward to reading it.

EgunMogaji:


How heavy are this and does it still need pillars?

Thanks for sharing.

I know you are always very detailed on your offerings and I look forward to reading it.

EgunMogaji:


It's not pointless to argue with me because you are doing just that You are a lesson in hypocrisy and infatilism.

Stop with the US. talk about Nigeria. i am Nigerian like you and I am building in Nigeria like you. Don;t begin to use anti US sentiments to try to bolster your weak position, it won't fly. I won't allow you to.

Yes I lack Nigerian visibility, so show me those modern new build N2m 4 bedroom bungalows. You can't because it doesn't exist.

You can shut me right up by posting the build data of an actual building. How much more easy can I make this for you?

adanny01:


If i were to build a house with N2m, for my taste, it wont be a 4 bedroom bungalow. However, my choice in quality may be higher to another person's who may consider a 4 bedroom bungalow. In fact, another person with a large family may build a room and palour compound that can house say 4 wives like the Moslems do. With N2m, an entire family of 20 can be done. It all depends on quality. Its a choice me and you may not take but another may go for worst even and proud of it.

"To me it's not a matter of pride. It's a matter of what's possible. Like I've said ad nuseum (sp), yes you can put up a structure for N2m that has 4 bedrooms but would it be something that meets the basic tenets of buildings today? I don't think so and until someone proves it to me physically, No one has done that yet."

The funny thing is you compare a country where less than 15% live below poverty to a country where above 60% live below the poverty line. If you think am flipping sentiments then you must be out of touch with facts and reality. If you live where poverty is rare, we live in Nigeria where poverty is common and comparison is unrealistic. You cant continue to hold your head high pretending poverty is a choice or a sentiment flaunted at you, face reality, it isnt.

"Please tell me what country I have compared to. You are blinded by your own individual sentiments. You can debate without padding, you can do better than that. I am okay with my facts and reality and you should be the same way with yours. You need to face a single reality, that is we don;t have to agree. What you call holding my head high is called be a realist. I have no apologies that I make you uncomfortable. It's clear that you have an axe to grind (it's either USA people or UK people or now even ordinary Bosnia is on your radar) and this thread gives you the opportunity. This is cool but please be a man and come out and be upfront."

You made me remember a fracas i had with my former Romanian boss. He accused me of duping the company for buying a chinese made car spare part for 12k that broke down 2 months after saying the original cost equivalent of 8k in their country. I had, just days ago seen the exact original brand name he mentioned in Konga. I showed it to him and the price tag was 50k! The same part he claimed was 8k in Romania was 50k in Nigeria, he apologised. I told him to stop comparing unless he goes into the Nigerian spare part market himself, then he is free to do that.

"I will stay out of your conversation with your superior. It offers nothing to this thread and is frankly irrelevant to me."

I dont now who you are since this is a faceless and nameless forum, but you really sound like someone who has no idea what poverty actually is. What is anti US sentiment? If you are poor you are poor and if you are rich you are. Its no sentiment.

"We don't need to know who we are, I certainly have no need or reason to know who you are. My views are valid, to me. Are they the same as yours? Apparently not, so and the beauty of life is that our views don't have to be similar."

If you can admit to lacking Nigerian visibility, how are you sure a N2m 4 bedroom bungalow doesnt exist? Like saying you have no idea but its impossible, how will you know? You want pictures, am i a contractor. Even if i am, is it every conceivable budget and quality i handled? I wonder why you are just being unrealistic. Last time i argued with someone with same attitude on NL on an issue just like this one in cartalk, he was also a Nigerian living in the US. There is something common to you guys, sure its no sentiment. He was admiring another Nigerian living in the UK for his mastery of polite words and languge. He was wondering why his comments often become spiteful just like yours. He was wondering why he was as knowledgeable and experienced like the UK guy but not respected in same measure.

[b]"I have a newsflash for you and this may hurt so you may want to sit down. I really don't care what you think of me dude. Your lame attempt, and frankly juvenile, to insult me will only have effect if only I respected your opinion, which I clearly don't. I have never admitted to lacking Nigerian visibility (you are late to the party, take time, sit down and stop leaping to conclusions). The debate wasn't about if a Nigerian 4 bedroom bungalow exists that was built for N2m, I'm sure someone can post some shyteshack. The debate is that it's near impossible to build a 4 bedroom bungalow for N2m today. If you want to prove me wrong then post one with the build data, otherwise you're just pissing in the wind. Stop tickling yourself that you know Nigeria more than me. You don't, so get a grip already. Nigeria is not some real estate on Mars. Grow a pair and stop trying to out show your fellow countrymen because life played you a different card. I know your types and it's a shame that you have access to Nairaland but you are not using that access to improve your lot."
[/b]

Lets do something. Am sure N2m will be nothing to you, send me the amount and i shall send you pictures of my 4 bedroom bungalow with plans and receipts of cost. I am sure i will be proud of it and grateful to you.

"How about I keep my money that I worked hard for and you use your money to talk the talk and walk the walk. I don't require your gratefulness, it won't add or deduct anything from me. I only require proof that you have built a 4 bedroom N2m bungalow."

abdulwastecx:

i am looking at this simple three bedroom flat, all room en-suit
take a look at this 3D pics