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Dat @abdulwacstex guy is over brilliant, I want to know wot he came out of d UNI wit.


Surely, he's going to bring up some ideas by tomoro.

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[b]I am thinking a time will come when the manufacturers of this "Polystrene fascia" will incorporate the wires needed to hang it, into the Poly product, as it is being manufactured.

Donswampo:
Using Concrete fascia on buildings seems more cheaper(in-situ) rather than importing precast,though i see nothing why one shouldn't make use of Polystyrene,with regards to durability,protective coatings and it's lightweighedness,i do prefer making use of fascial even in my designs, take a look at this Four bedroom i designed for a client,The facial looks outstanding..it's cost it's minimal..

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Dat @abdulwacstex guy is over brilliant, I want to know wot he came out of d UNI wit.
Surely, he's going to bring up some ideas by tomoro.

Donswampo:
Mufutua55 yeah i'm thinking of creating it sooner than later,what do you think?

mufutau55:


The wires were already incorporated into the Polystrene fascia for hangup. The outer side is also already coated with cement from factory for more dressing. [/b]I have had lengthy discussion about the installation and the Polystrene itself even before he posted it here.
It's a very good alternative to insitu and precast parapets especially because of the weight; you don't need columns (pillars) to install it.
You will still need need the last beam (for roofing) to be installed after the Polystrene. There is some cement[b] to be casted while installing the Polystrene to hold it in place with the pre-incorporated wires and the roof beam will totally secured the Polystrene.
I did not want to divulge much information and will rather let Abdulwastecx come here to explain it in the building jargons.
I am sure he will post more photos like the ones he sent me on whatsapp for private lesson/discussions, I am sure he is reading this too.
Thanks.

Hajji M.

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Thanks Hajji, for your contribution.
What l am looking at, from the picture and what others have observed is that:
1.) It does not look too tidy, after installation, unlike the "casted" one, in-situ or otherwise.

Response: Got it. Even the in-situ or precast is also does not look tidy until its dressed, when it's dressed I am sure will you see it better.


2.) Going by the "materials listed", you still need a fair amount of Concrete Mix, to hold it up there, even as it is not weighty and should not need such Concrete mix to stand in its place. Why is this so?

Response: Yes you need some concrete mix to hold it down with the wires... you also needed it for the in-situ and precast too... there is got to be a small weight to hold it down. But you don't need much concrete mix like the precast even.. the roof beam concrete will also hold all in place.

Can we not find a more efficient way of "hanging/installing it" on the Roof Wall, without going to the extent of mixing concrete?

Response: Probably as it gets popularly used here, it will be improved. But I surely know what you meant. I have seen photos of the ones used abroad that looked real nice.

when l was small, a very heavy storm blew away the roof of a house l was in and on inquiring from ma parents, l was told the roof was "not tied down" with those metallic strips that is usually used to tie a bundle of Roofing sheets (Oja'agba, in Yoruba).
Nowadays, most houses dont even use that but have devised a better way to tie down the roof, without affecting the aesthetics, as was the previous case!

Response: Yes. I remember the oja'agba thing being used and actually some people still use it. But improvement has gone far away and I am sure we shall keep improving.


3.) As something made from PVC, the price still seems to be on the high side!
I assume, using a mould, this thing is a product of "melting Plastic granules and pouring it into a mould and/or extruding it.
"Iff' l am correct, then it should be no more costly that an equivalent amount of "plastic material" (in-terms of materials used and effort applied)

What if l suggest that they put a threaded iron (like a very long iron screw) into it during manufacture and we simply either screw it down on the top block (and chuck it with a little cement to hold it down) .... or insert anchors into it during manufacture so that all you do during installation is simply "Hang it" on the top wall?
Since it has no weight, hanging it will not be difficult nor will it have any gravitational force to pull it down.
Just wondering aloud.

Response: Yeah. The cost is still on the high side but I am sure as it get used, the overall cost should even fall below the precast.
What I do know is that it's just another alternative to other parapets; especially the bungalows without columns "pillars".
Same reason why we did not use the Aluminium Parapet because it's so expensive; people are looking for it to be less costly than the precast but it was not. It is in the same cost range as the polythene. All your concerns does make real sense.

Oga Abdulwacstex should please come to the rescue o!

Response: Yes. I am sure he will back to give us more explanations... Thanks.

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Donswampo:
Mufutua55 okay.thanks.

EgunMogaji:
What are you guys paying to dig soakaway pits?

EgunMogaji:
What are you guys paying to dig soakaway pits?

twinskenny:
I did mine 45k for the two
12by12 and 8x8 think

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Thanks Hajji, for your contribution.

What l am looking at, from the picture and what others have observed is that:

1.) It does not look too tidy, after installation, unlike the "casted" one, in-situ or otherwise.

2.) Going by the "materials listed", you still need a fair amount of Concrete Mix, to hold it up there, even as it is not weighty and should not need such Concrete mix to stand in its place. Why is this so?

Can we not find a more efficient way of "hanging/installing it" on the Roof Wall, without going to the extent of mixing concrete?

when l was small, a very heavy storm blew away the roof of a house l was in and on inquiring from ma parents, l was told the roof was "not tied down" with those metallic strips that is usually used to tie a bundle of Roofing sheets (Oja'agba, in Yoruba).
Nowadays, most houses dont even use that but have devised a better way to tie down the roof, without affecting the aesthetics, as was the previous case!

3.) As something made from PVC, the price still seems to be on the high side!
I assume, using a mould, this thing is a product of "melting Plastic granules and pouring it into a mould and/or extruding it.
"Iff' l am correct, then it should be no more costly that an equivalent amount of "plastic material" (in-terms of materials used and effort applied)

What if l suggest that they put a threaded iron (like a very long iron screw) into it during manufacture and we simply either screw it down on the top block (and chuck it with a little cement to hold it down) .... or insert anchors into it during manufacture so that all you do during installation is simply "Hang it" on the top wall?

Since it has no weight, hanging it will not be difficult nor will it have any gravitational force to pull it down.

Just wondering aloud.

Oga Abdulwacstex should please come to the rescue o!


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Donswampo:
Using Concrete fascia on buildings seems more cheaper(in-situ) rather than importing precast,though i see nothing why one shouldn't make use of Polystyrene,with regards to durability,protective coatings and it's lightweighedness,i do prefer making use of fascial even in my designs, take a look at this Four bedroom i designed for a client,The facial looks outstanding..it's cost it's minimal..

mufutau55:


The wires were already incorporated into the Polystrene fascia for hangup. The outer side is also already coated with cement from factory for more dressing. I have had lengthy discussion about the installation and the Polystrene itself even before he posted it here.
It's a very good alternative to insitu and precast parapets especially because of the weight; you don't need columns (pillars) to install it.
You will still need need the last beam (for roofing) to be installed after the Polystrene. There is some cement to be casted while installing the Polystrene to hold it in place with the pre-incorporated wires and the roof beam will totally secured the Polystrene.
I did not want to divulge much information and will rather let Abdulwastecx come here to explain it in the building jargons.
I am sure he will post more photos like the ones he sent me on whatsapp for private lesson/discussions, I am sure he is reading this too.
Thanks.

Hajji M.

good analysis sir

KolaShangOne:
@abdulwastecx When I added the costs, I arrived at about 5700 per sqm for the Polystyrene fascia.. How much does the in-situ fascia cost per sqm so that we can compare?

johnson232:

Thanks for the explanation sir, so one just need to attach the polystyrene to the roof beam. Does it require much columns like other parapet? Cc: abdulwastecx

EgunMogaji:


If you use this in or near Ibadan I would like to see it directly.

I really like the look but not the cost of the real deal.

Thanks.

brag3:
Is the finished article pleasing on the eye?
Can one spot the difference a mile off or is it hard to tell the difference? Is it a strong enough to resist our hard weather conditions? heavy rain and ghastly winds?

twinskenny:
it is well... people can read mind sha..

no wahala..

mufutau55:


Very brilliant and innovative. You need to talk to this guy to know what he has in his head... I have probed his brain many times.
I was so much interested that I chat and talk to this guy on various subject almost everyday... Never being disappointed yet.
He has a very young mind that need to excel, and if he continue at this rate... I can see a very good future for him. No wasted talent.

Hajji M.

abdulwastecx:


That is not the finished article yet, the joint will dressed later.
We have misconception when it comes to durability, we always associate durability with weight. The polystyrene fascia is design to serve as wind breaker, it will not be that exposed to too much rain after the roof sheet has been install.

The polystyrene is strong enough to withstand all the wind, rain that it may be exposed to in its service life

KolaShangOne:
@abdulwastecx When I added the costs, I arrived at about 5700 per sqm for the Polystyrene fascia.. How much does the in-situ fascia cost per sqm so that we can compare?

abdulwastecx:

about N3,600- N4000/m depending on size and height of building

brabus:


Thank God for NextHome truck in some of our projects. I can only imagine the huge loss so many clients are making. I've never bought more than 25 tons with the truck and no 30 tons delivered to me (by my supplier o) has ever matched the quantity I get.
Even the 25 tons sef, I just dey agree say Na 25 tons because I no get scale or mind to start counting Chippings one by one.

Anyhow sha, God dey!

Babs612000:
Good drawings please how much will you take for the Architectural and structural drawings of this house with the five copies printed.

jam04:


lol..I remember i once pointed this 'hidden fraud' to you but you waived it aside. 100% of all the trucks used in ogun state and oyo state(except for construction companies) can Not carry 30tons. Max most of them do is 23 or leas sef.