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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 11:52am On Oct 21, 2015
Onuokwu:




I am a bit confused now. @abdulwastecx are you referring to the cost of the polysterene fascia or in-situ fascia. If in-situ fascia then that means polysterene fascia as computed by Kolashangone is cheaper. I doubt however that Kolashangone computation is correct.

I was referring to d cost of the Poly facial when I said 5700.. I added the cost per sqm + transport +labour + tentative cost per sqm of roof beam and divided by perimeter of 120m..
I now asked how much in-situ will cost (not precast) and hr said 4000 per sqm. I was a little bit confused too because the Ploy facial is supposed to be cheaper than In-situ as Abdulwastecx said earlier..

@Segcymoor The owner is obviously trying to reduce cost..Laterite that quantity is not up to 16k.. Must be an Ijebu man.. (Apologies to Ijebu men here) grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jam04(m): 12:04pm On Oct 21, 2015
brabus:


Yea, I remember that was in 2013 when the guys at Stoneworks supplied me some granite in Ondo. I never waived it aside. That singular transaction informed our decision to own our truck. I was taken by surprise at the quantity supplied and the amount paid. Now that I have a truck, I'm even more surprised. grin grin

God punish hypocrisy of our suppliers!



Read more here: https://www.nairaland.com/1338637/chateau-ile-oluji-construction-journal/2#16643921
lol..don't blame suppliers atimes. Most builders are not ready to pay the price. It's a good thing you got your own truck but you will still have to buy from US or you now maintain an account at the quarry?
I laugh whenever i see suppliers quote 150k for 3/4 or half inch 30 tons granite to lagos. How can 150k service such? lol
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 12:15pm On Oct 21, 2015
KolaShangOne:


I was referring to d cost of the Poly facial when I said 5700.. I added the cost per sqm + transport +labour + tentative cost per sqm of roof beam and divided by perimeter of 120m..
I now asked how much in-situ will cost (not precast) and hr said 4000 per sqm. I was a little bit confused too because the Ploy facial is supposed to be cheaper than In-situ as Abdulwastecx said earlier..

@Segcymoor The owner is obviously trying to reduce cost..Laterite that quantity is not up to 16k.. Must be an Ijebu man.. (Apologies to Ijebu men here) grin

The cost of around 3600- 4000 is for "PRECAST" fascia
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 12:20pm On Oct 21, 2015
KolaShangOne:
A Nairalander complained about about his 'decking' vibrating.. It's obviously as a result of inadequate beams. I've seen houses here on NL where the builder was trying to use 'in-beams to cover up for not having adequate beams on his project.

Secret beans are meant to provide added support over a longer span, not replace beams.

My Oga's in the house, what do you think?

secrete beams are not structurally sound to have either as an added support or replace beam. The effective depth of such beam will be too small for a slab of 150mm.

if one is not ready to do rib slab or waffle slab such beam should never be introduce....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 12:20pm On Oct 21, 2015
abdulwastecx:


The cost of around 3600- 4000 is for "PRECAST" fascia

I asked about in-situ in my post.. You can check again..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 12:22pm On Oct 21, 2015
KolaShangOne:


I asked about in-situ in my post.. You can check again..

my bad sir....in-situ cost much more and it depends on height of the building as well
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 12:24pm On Oct 21, 2015
jam04:

lol..don't blame suppliers atimes. Most builders are not ready to pay the price. It's a good thing you got your own truck but you will still have to buy from US or you now maintain an account at the quarry?
I laugh whenever i see suppliers quote 150k for 3/4 or half inch 30 tons granite to lagos. How can 150k service such? lol

DISHONESTY....... IS NOT A LAUGHING MATTER! angry angry angry angry

I think it is more dignifying to tell you client/Builder that 30Tons cost x-y amount. Not a penny less, take it or leave it.

Not to DEFRAUD them by giving them 23Ton, ......when they paid for 30Ton, you agreed to supply 30Ton and they were expecting 30Ton.

Some Nigerians and their criminal mind ehn?
angry angry



Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 12:37pm On Oct 21, 2015
abdulwastecx:


secrete beams are not structurally sound to have either as an added support or replace beam. The effective depth of such beam will be too small for a slab of 150mm.

if one is not ready to do rib slab or waffle slab such beam should never be introduce....

There's a picture I will like to post but I don't want a backlash from the builder.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jam04(m): 12:39pm On Oct 21, 2015
lastpage:


DISHONESTY....... IS NOT A LAUGHING MATTER! angry angry angry angry

I think it is more dignifying to tell you client/Builder that 30Tons cost x-y amount. Not a penny less, take it or leave it.

Not to DEFRAUD them by giving them 23Ton, ......when they paid for 30Ton, you agreed to supply 30Ton and they were expecting 30Ton.

Some Nigerians and their criminal mind ehn?
angry angry



Lastpage!
The laugh on those builders who got genuine and quality offer from a coy but decide to de with unregistered suppliers for less. I have a record on NL, i will break it down for you piece by piece,you either accept our price or we wish you luck. We do not shortchange
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:12pm On Oct 21, 2015
KolaShangOne:


I was referring to d cost of the Poly facial when I said 5700.. I added the cost per sqm + transport +labour + tentative cost per sqm of roof beam and divided by perimeter of 120m..
I now asked how much in-situ will cost (not precast) and hr said 4000 per sqm. I was a little bit confused too because the Ploy facial is supposed to be cheaper than In-situ as Abdulwastecx said earlier..

@Segcymoor The owner is obviously trying to reduce cost..Laterite that quantity is not up to 16k.. Must be an Ijebu man.. (Apologies to Ijebu men here) grin

We are not that bad.

Here's 1st delivery of my laterite grin

I'm sure that he's been hood winked by a neforious supplier.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:15pm On Oct 21, 2015
jam04:

The laugh on those builders who got genuine and quality offer from a coy but decide to de with unregistered suppliers for less. I have a record on NL, i will break it down for you piece by piece,you either accept our price or we wish you luck. We do not shortchange

Way to go to blame the victim.

The builders are not at fault. The entity at fault are the theiving suppliers, pure and simple.

No one deserves to be cheated.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:17pm On Oct 21, 2015
KolaShangOne:


There's a picture I will like to post but I don't want a backlash from the builder.

On a serious note, you are doing a disfavor to the industry if you see a safety violation and keep mute.

Man up cowboy and do the right thing.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 3:18pm On Oct 21, 2015
EgunMogaji:


Way to go to blame the victim.

The builders are not at fault. The entity at fault are the theiving suppliers, pure and simple.

No one deserves to be cheated.
I agree with you, hence such people do not improve.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:19pm On Oct 21, 2015
abdulwastecx:


secrete beams are not structurally sound to have either as an added support or replace beam. The effective depth of such beam will be too small for a slab of 150mm.

if one is not ready to do rib slab or waffle slab such beam should never be introduce....

Mr Abdul, if time permits you should break this down into easily grasped example for us mere mortals to understand so we can all check our builds.

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:22pm On Oct 21, 2015
erico2k2:

I agree with you, hence such people do not improve.

Yes sir, some people go through life and wonder why their hustle is not rewarded.

No one grows from cheating others.

Life has a way of leveling scores.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 3:26pm On Oct 21, 2015
EgunMogaji:


Yes sir, some people go through life and wonder why their hustle is not rewarded.

No one grows from cheating others.

Life has a way of leveling scores.
This is why %60 of workmen remain same for almost %70 of their working life,no one grows just the few honest ones.everybody always looking for short cut
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:22pm On Oct 21, 2015
jam04:

The laugh on those builders who got genuine and quality offer from a coy but decide to de with unregistered suppliers for less. I have a record on NL, i will break it down for you piece by piece,you either accept our price or we wish you luck. We do not shortchange

Please break it down.. let's have your prices/cost so we can compare next time each of us need to be supplied. Thank you.
I am sure we are ALL not married to one supplier. Abi, my people?

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:26pm On Oct 21, 2015
EgunMogaji:



No one grows from cheating others.

Life has a way of leveling scores.
very very true sir. Good or bad, one must get rewarded
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 4:45pm On Oct 21, 2015
mufutau55:


Please break it down.. let's have your prices/cost so we can compare next time each of us need to be supplied. Thank you.
I am sure we are ALL not married to one supplier. Abi, my people?

Hajji M.
abi O, I have been asking for a good quote for 30 tonne granite to PH no one has given me any quote,Im waiting still.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smiley001(m): 5:09pm On Oct 21, 2015
mufutau55:


Please break it down.. let's have your prices/cost so we can compare next time each of us need to be supplied. Thank you.
I am sure we are ALL not married to one supplier. Abi, my people?

Hajji M.



Yes ooo... no marriage. there's notin bad in trying other hands too.

I Support dis.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by johnson232: 5:12pm On Oct 21, 2015
EgunMogaji:


Mr Abdul, if time permits you should break this down into easily grasped example for us mere mortals to understand so we can all check our builds.

Thanks.
Seconded. Cc: abdulwastecx
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:21pm On Oct 21, 2015
mufutau55:


Please break it down.. let's have your prices/cost so we can compare next time each of us need to be supplied. Thank you.
I am sure we are ALL not married to one supplier. Abi, my people?

Hajji M.

It's not a life contract. But the suppliers' association still have a way of extorting money from you o especially when they know you're not using them.

There are couple of times they delay our truck from entering sites because we are not registered member of supplier association and we need to pay some dues.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:22pm On Oct 21, 2015
mufutau55:


Please break it down.. let's have your prices/cost so we can compare next time each of us need to be supplied. Thank you.
I am sure we are ALL not married to one supplier. Abi, my people?

Hajji M.

Nope.

I've recently learned that vital lesson and I'm more the wiser now.

But an atheist supplier has more value now grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:27pm On Oct 21, 2015
erico2k2:

abi O, I have been asking for a good quote for 30 tonne granite to PH no one has given me any quote,Im waiting still.

Hopefully you'll get one soon.

I'm stockpiling materials on my site now that it is secured.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Onuokwu: 6:01pm On Oct 21, 2015
erico2k2:

abi O, I have been asking for a good quote for 30 tonne granite to PH no one has given me any quote,Im waiting still.

30 tonne granite to Port harcourt will most probably be bought from Abia State along Enugu express road...you should pay between N125,000 - N150,000.00 for that though i am not a supplier o. I am just estimating based on prices in the East.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jam04(m): 6:44pm On Oct 21, 2015
mufutau55:


Please break it down.. let's have your prices/cost so we can compare next time each of us need to be supplied. Thank you.
I am sure we are ALL not married to one supplier. Abi, my people?

Hajji M.

Granite price is never stable, it fluctuates according to market forces so also is transport. I notice most builders don't know there are different prices for stones, the cheapest been stone dust. Suppliers rip them off by giving them uniform prices for all stones.
The first method to beat your supplier to his game is to know the stone size you want. Don't just ask a broad base price.

Stone dust presently is 500 per ton
3/4 is 1500
5/8 is 1600
Half inch is 2200

Transport depends on tonnage and location. 10tons to lekki is 35,000, 20tons to lekki is 55,000 and 30tons to lekki is 60,000. This excludes toll charges ooo. Toll charge from ogun state to lekki for 30tons is 5000 while for 10 tons is 3500.

This also excludes omonile settlement and area boys, in some locations they collect as high as 5k or 10k per trip and some just 1 or 2k. This price never get company margin inside oooo.

This breakdown is what I give a potential client or builder and the smart ones see beyond the figures and go for it.

The breakdown I gave above should give you a rough estimate of what your order will be BUT it depends on current market price and condition.

I repeat again for emphasis NO truck presently used by haulage companies can carry 30tons complete as we all fear for our tires and suspension due to bad nature of road, traffic and weather condition. The only location we do make such trip( 30tons) is Agbara for those that re-sell and they pay HUGE and movement is timed. A honest supplier will be open to you about this

Ciao

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:04pm On Oct 21, 2015
Folks Please I need help with interlocking stone. I need a hookup. please help a brother out.

size: 250 SQM

Thanks

3Strikes!!!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:09pm On Oct 21, 2015
jam04:


Granite price is never stable, it fluctuates according to market forces so also is transport. I notice most builders don't know there are different prices for stones, the cheapest been stone dust. Suppliers rip them off by giving them uniform prices for all stones.
The first method to beat your supplier to his game is to know the stone size you want. Don't just ask a broad base price.

Stone dust presently is 500 per ton
3/4 is 1500
5/8 is 1600
Half inch is 2200

Transport depends on tonnage and location. 10tons to lekki is 35,000, 20tons to lekki is 55,000 and 30tons to lekki is 60,000. This excludes toll charges ooo. Toll charge from ogun state to lekki for 30tons is 5000 while for 10 tons is 3500.

This also excludes omonile settlement and area boys, in some locations they collect as high as 5k or 10k per trip and some just 1 or 2k. This price never get company margin inside oooo.

This breakdown is what I give a potential client or builder and the smart ones see beyond the figures and go for it.

The breakdown I gave above should give you a rough estimate of what your order will be BUT it depends on current market price and condition.

I repeat again for emphasis NO truck presently used by haulage companies can carry 30tons complete as we all fear for our tires and suspension due to bad nature of road, traffic and weather condition. The only location we do make such trip( 30tons) is Agbara for those that re-sell and they pay HUGE and movement is timed. A honest supplier will be open to you about this

Ciao

Thank you for sharing this.

I would love to see same from Ibadan suppliers to Elebu area.

For me specifically for stone dust and 3/4.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jam04(m): 7:18pm On Oct 21, 2015
EgunMogaji:


Thank you for sharing this.

I would love to see same from Ibadan suppliers to Elebu area.

For me specifically for stone dust and 3/4.

You might get a cheaper transport quote in ibadan considering that Elebu is close to the quarry. Stones prices in ibadan is way much higher than Ogun state.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dieumerci(m): 8:12pm On Oct 21, 2015
jam04:


Granite price is never stable, it fluctuates according to market forces so also is transport. I notice most builders don't know there are different prices for stones, the cheapest been stone dust. Suppliers rip them off by giving them uniform prices for all stones.
The first method to beat your supplier to his game is to know the stone size you want. Don't just ask a broad base price.

Stone dust presently is 500 per ton
3/4 is 1500
5/8 is 1600
Half inch is 2200

Transport depends on tonnage and location. 10tons to lekki is 35,000, 20tons to lekki is 55,000 and 30tons to lekki is 60,000. This excludes toll charges ooo. Toll charge from ogun state to lekki for 30tons is 5000 while for 10 tons is 3500.

This also excludes omonile settlement and area boys, in some locations they collect as high as 5k or 10k per trip and some just 1 or 2k. This price never get company margin inside oooo.

This breakdown is what I give a potential client or builder and the smart ones see beyond the figures and go for it.

The breakdown I gave above should give you a rough estimate of what your order will be BUT it depends on current market price and condition.

I repeat again for emphasis NO truck presently used by haulage companies can carry 30tons complete as we all fear for our tires and suspension due to bad nature of road, traffic and weather condition. The only location we do make such trip( 30tons) is Agbara for those that re-sell and they pay HUGE and movement is timed. A honest supplier will be open to you about this

Ciao
Thanks for sharing this.
How much do they charge for transport to Agbara?
10, 20 and 30 tons.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jam04(m): 8:40pm On Oct 21, 2015
Dieumerci:

Thanks for sharing this.
How much do they charge for transport to Agbara?
10, 20 and 30 tons.

If i am charging you to agbara it will be as follows:
10tons.......28k
20tons........45k
30tons.......54k

These prices excludes omonile/area boys or community charges. The client is in the best position to know what these guys collect since it is his/her area
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:35pm On Oct 21, 2015
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