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Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by crackhaus: 1:39pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite:Didn't I say that this boy has serious complex issues? You're smarter than them all put together, and yet no one sees your name and face plastered on newspapers and TV. Why haven't you started your own country on that account? Wait let me guess, your 18hrs a day job doesn't pay enough...yes? If you think being smart means travelling via the Sahara and then stuffed in a canoe with 100s of your sagamu brothers to cross into Europe, then you surely need a reboot... 14 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by coogar: 1:41pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Mutaino7: it's baffling that a lot of people cannot actually interpret the law. take for instance....bestiality is completely legal in the following american states.......alabama, arkansas, hawaii, kentucky, montana, nevada, new hampshire, new jersey, new mexico, ohio, texas, vermont, virginia, west virginia, one of the washington states and wyoming. now, does this necessarily mean the constitution of these states said humans should go out there and start shägging animals? hell no. however, their constitution forgot or deliberately ignored to make provisions for anyone caught fücking animals and therefore there's no law/punishment provided to prosecute anyone caught committing the act of bestiality. in other words, bestiality is legal in these states! 6 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by babygirlfl: 1:43pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Onegai: My dear, I agree with you. The problem with the NIS law is that only women require permission. Men don't require the same permission from the mother. 1 Like |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by TV01(m): 1:46pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite:We are not deliberating your beliefs, just what this particular portion ot the Nigerian constitutions says - in context. It was sexist to both men and women - if you are viewing things from that perspective. It was peculiar to that era and the antecedents of the constitution. Sagamite:But the plaintive cry of this thread is how women are institutionallly/legally discriminated against in Nigeria and the world over Sagamite:Again, that is your position, not necessarily the focus here, but needless to say, promulgating laws through a "gendered" lens, sounds somewhat "funky" to me. I would personally opt for a more holistic, what better serves all round" approach. Sagamite:With hindsight, the whole world practices stupidity - laws are being enacted and repealed everywhere and all the time. Hence my noting that we are all "evolving", for "better or worse". IN 50 years time what is considered right now, may well be considered dated then. Sagamite:Discrimination is what humans live and die by every minute of every day. And some forms of discrimination are perfectly and legally appropriate. In marrying my wife, I discriminated against all the other candidates - ok, there was just one and we were too closely related ! If you buy a Benz, you discriminate against Jaguar, BMW and all the others, if you choose to live in Chelsea, you are hating on Dagenham. When, and by whom was "Equality" decided to be the underpinning of the law. And even if you don't mean in the new-age sense of the word, equality means to treat things similarly situated or all aspect alike the same under the law. It doesn't mean the use of the law to "equalise" things that are in purpose, design, function or outcome quantitavely different. Sagamite:The law does not intrude on relationships - unless you willingly place yourself under a relationship defined by law. TV 3 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Sagamite(m): 1:46pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
crackhaus: You are a cretinous fuuktard! Fuuktard, do cretins like you even read newspapers? To demonstrate how moronic you are, do you even know my real name to know whether it is not plastered on newspapers and TV? Does people with high intellect necessarily have their names plastered on newspapers and TV? Or you just want to tell us that geniuses to you are the Kardashians? Fuuktard, so confirmation of intelligence is "starting your own country"? Cretinous fuuktard, I repeat: Which moronic schools taught your daft arsse that a woman (or a man) have to marry into a family? Fuuktard, do you know the meaning of naturally? You scared now? YOU FCKING SCARED? Mutaino7, can you see how easy it is for me to destroy this your moronic hero? 13 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by crackhaus: 1:51pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite:Sheppopotamus Patience with all her lack of finese reached and achieved what you, your family, ancestors, and generations combined have/will never achieve. Don't hate on your betters b1tch, use that sh1t of a brain and become the next Albert Einstein if he were a FOB immigrant sagamu boy. Do you know the meaning of fvcktard? Is it even a word? 7 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by babygirlfl: 1:53pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
coogar: I actually thought the same thing. I thought the law being silence meant women could confer citizenship to their foreign husband but obviously from things happening around us and the the fact that that law has actually been tested in court made me believe otherwise. The validity of this section in the light of section 42 of the constitution, the provisions of the African Charter on Human and Peoples Rights and the Convention on Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, [CEDAW] have been tested in the Nigerian case of Vayola Sears and Another V. Attorney-General of the Federation and Minister of Justice and Another [suit no. FHC/L/CS/547/2003] https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/usaafricadialogue/Ua8I-ZSZKJ0 2 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Nobody: 1:56pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Onegai: Sorry dear, they didn't require my consent before giving my children their passports. They only need to know that at least one of the parents Is from that country which they are applying.in as much as we had all the birth certificate et all, there is no " I consent my baby having this nationality". It's their birth right to have it. If they were travelling out that might count but not acquiring the passport . The passport is their identity . Traveling out of the country under the age of 18 is another thing that BOTH parents need to approve . |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Sagamite(m): 1:58pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
TV01: Well we are suppose to be delibrating sense, correctness, progress and improvements. Things my beliefs always stand for. Hence we ARE indirectly deliberating my beliefs. The constitution's aim was to see women as an inferior human with inferior rights, so it was aimed to be sexist against WOMEN. It being perculiar to the era does not make it right. It does not make it sensible, correct, progressive and apt. It is against my beliefs, hence it is OBVIOUSLY completely wrong. Why? Because I am always right! TV01: Yes, they are. Unfortunately, many mooorons that want to change this think the solution is to reverse the discrimination. TV01: That is the right, sensible, progressive and most appropriate position. A position of equality and giving each individual the right to control and decide their destiny. TV01: That is why the world needs people like me with foresight, so hindsight becomes largely redundant. TV01: Don't confuse "choice" with "discrimination". TV01: It is the fair and most objective way to underpin a law. So 'when it was decided' is irrelevant. It is sensible, correct, progressive and apt. 9 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by crackhaus: 1:59pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite:Nigga, if you're smarter than those who drafted the constitution of a country, then you should be able to start your own country complete with your own Constitution, dvmbfvck... Not that I expected you to understand that though...what an infant. 7 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by coogar: 2:00pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
babygirlfl: i would have liked to read the entire details of this case before assuming a nigerian woman cannot confer her citizenship on a foreign husband. it sounds bizarre to me! 1 Like |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Sagamite(m): 2:00pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
crackhaus: You are a cretinous fuuktard! I knew a cretin like Patience would be an iconic hero to a cretinous fuuktard like you? So Patience is an achiever in your reasoning? Can you see why I said if you added your entire lineage's intelligence, you can never be as smart as I am? Are you fcking shyting yourself right now? Mutaino7, this cretin is your hero? Watch how I will destroy this fuuktard! 8 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Nobody: 2:01pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
babygirlfl: Not fair but then again what do you expect from such society that even the law makers don't read the laws not to talk of amending them Silly old illiterates parading themselves as honourable members of ... 5 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Sagamite(m): 2:02pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
crackhaus: You are a cretinous fuuktard! Is that the "logical" progression Patience taught you? Can you see that the failed education has destroyed your daft life? 8 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Mutaino7(m): 2:04pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite:Ehn you landed a punch but this is 12 round bout bro....dont slack off coz a hook is on.................. the way... ELEMI LO MA LAST.
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Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by babygirlfl: 2:04pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
coogar: Please do you know how to get the details? I would like to read it too. Let me know how I can get my hands on it. Thanks. |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Sagamite(m): 2:07pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Mutaino7: There is no round in this, is is pure public flogging. The only activity and outcome here is that I will pound this fuuktard's daft brain and he would be running from my flogging. He is already running from defending his moronic statements. He knows that he is not up to it. You would soon know you are daft for ever thinking such a cretin can step to me. Sit the fck up and WATCH! 6 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Mutaino7(m): 2:08pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
crackhaus:ahn ahn!!! its not fair 3 Likes
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Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by babygirlfl: 2:11pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite: Choice and Worth is what I stand for too. 5 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by coogar: 2:13pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
babygirlfl: vayola sears doesn't even sound nigerian to me - there has to be a reason she was prevented from conferring her nigerian citizenship on her foreign hubby. i will give you a call later today when i get the details of the case. |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Mutaino7(m): 2:15pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite:''SALUTES"" shan sir!!! rubs palm(rick ross mode activated)..waiting patiently at the backstage 1 Like
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Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by babygirlfl: 2:18pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
coogar: Honestly, her name does not sound Nigerian to me too. I am expecting your call . Coogar ask around and you will hear from women who are affected. Ask Nigerian women married to foreign men. I was surprised too. I did not know about this law. I believe women are discriminated on in Nigeria but would have sworn that we were long passed this stage. 1 Like |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by cococandy(f): 2:20pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
FrancisTony:we are still better than some countries o. What if I marry someone from any of those 'lesser' African countries and he wants to become Nigerian? |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by cococandy(f): 2:25pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
coogar:You're right it's bizarre. |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by edwife(f): 2:25pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Chillisauce: They didn't require your consent because parental responsibility is automatically granted if you were married to the children’s father at the time of birth or if you jointly registered the birth.If you were separated or divorced,either parent can give permission for a child to have a passport, unless there is a court order about PR or preventing the child from having a passport. You don't need to consent your baby to have a nationality because the birth certificate alone is his nationality,it is automatic.You need your nationality(birth certificate or certificate of citizenship) to apply for a passport;However Passports are a form of identification accepted internationally to prove not only identity, but citizenship. 5 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by TV01(m): 2:27pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite:I would dispute that assertion - it was an attempt to codify the prevailing morés of the time - with of course some external influence. No one sat down with the rubric "how can we institutionalise discrimination against women" and set to work. Just like no one thought "lets look at where we are now and where we will be in 50 years and promulgate future proof laws. The law evolves. Sagamite:I did not say it was right - only that the constitutional provisions were sexist against both men and female, if one uses that lens - and that in Nigeria, as everywhere else, things were evolving for better or worse. Sagamite:If laws are to be ever "progressive", then you can never be right can you? Or at best, you can only be right, right now - which brings us back to evolving . Sagamite:Only to a degree and to ensure it is fairly done. Society cannot just give leave to everyones unfettered desires, Hence why we have laws, traditions, customs and morés in the first place. Sagamite:You can't go into the world Saga - well at least not until you've sorted out NL first ! Sagamite:Fair point, but I'm not not in a sense. And there is not always a marked difference. Sagamite:As log as it is applied sensibly and not as some over-arching and universal principal. TV 1 Like |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by crackhaus: 2:34pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite:When saga-numbskull-mite starts to wriggle, twist, and turn in one spot, it becomes clear he's got nothing else to hold on to. Is Patience now the cause of your mental imbalance as well? Where was sagamite when sheppppotamus was rolling with the big wigs at the highest level despite her lack of finese and good education? Your smarts hasn't made you famous, neither has it gotten you a meeting with your ward councillor at your local government in sagamu. Is it just on NL your own starts and end? 7 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Nobody: 2:44pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
edwife: So let me get this straight.. Mr C can walk into the prefecture to get their passport with their birth cert without a consent letter from me but I can't walk into my embassy to get their own passport from my end by displaying My Nigerian passport or proving my nationality with other documents. I thought citizenship is given by parents nationality and not where they were born( not speaking of US here). 3 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Sagamite(m): 2:44pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
TV01: The prevailing morelu of the time was that "women are inferior human with inferior rights". Codifying the prevailing morelu of the time was treating "women as inferior human with inferior rights". Furthermore, some of these laws were made in 1990. So lets stop saying it was colonialism. It was the backward mentality of the cretins that composed it. And we still have such cretins here like crackhaus thinking he is right, educated and intelligent. TV01: No! It can be right. It is quite easy. We only need to have someone with superior logical brains to formulate it and then educate people to understand it. Unfortunately, majority of people are fuuktards that just think something is right because "they have heard it" and "that is the way it is done". That is why a cretinous fuuktard like crackhaus can stand like the fuuktard he is and dig his heels in that a "woman marries into a man's family". The fuuktard even claimed it was a "natural phenomenon"! Educate such fuuktards on the RIGHT things and soon they would have heard it enough and seen the way it is done then it would be their new axiom. What the world needs is good leaders. That is one of the main things that has been holding Africa backwards. Useless leaders. Especially considering it appears the black race is quite inferior in indepedent reasoning. TV01: Equality and freedom is not everyone's unfettered desires. It is everyone's reasonable desire. The desire for equality only changes when one person sees that their incapability/incompetence can mean equality would result in them being at a disadvantage, then they start looking for how they can instil legalised superiority. Freedom should only be curtailed when it can be used to harm others or cause [REASONABLY] trouble that can lead to harming others. It is more subjective than equality. TV01: All progress starts from somewhere. 7 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by crackhaus: 2:44pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Sagamite:Is this your reply to why you haven't drafted your own Constitution for your own county? Logical progression is both beyond and totally out of your depth at the exact same time... You're like a floater, one which drifts in tandem with the waves I create. You're my b1tch, b1tch! 6 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Sagamite(m): 2:46pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
crackhaus: You are a cretinous fuuktard! You are scared? You are still running? Cretinous fuuktard, I repeat: Which moronic schools taught your daft arsse that a woman (or a man) have to marry into a family? Fuuktard, do you know the meaning of naturally? 6 Likes |
Re: Discrimination Against Women In Nigeria by Onegai(f): 2:47pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
edwife: I was going to type this but you beat me to it A passport is not a birth certificate or a certificate of Naturalization, it is just an ID card to prove identity and citizenship. |
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