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Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 2:26pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Nowhere in the quran that Jesus name is mentioned without identifying him with his mother's name. ''Jesus the son of Mary''. But when other prophets (including Muhammad) are mentioned, their mother's name and even the father's name are not attached, why that of Jesus? Jesus came from a place where people are addressed by their fathers name. Even in Arab's culture, they do address people by their father's name. It should be clear to all right thinking people that addressing ONLY Jesus by his mother's name is a deliberate denial by islamic allahh to deceive mankind about the true identity of Jesus as the Son of the Father. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by menabae(f): 3:19pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Maybe they dnt believe God or joseph as jesus father but son of maryam ,some muslim even called him son of holyghost or something like that |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 3:48pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 4:19pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi:Is that your refutal? Stop deceiving yourself. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 4:21pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
menabae: Muslims don't believe anything that is the truth. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 4:23pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
truthman2012: you! are the one who needs to stop deceiving yourself. how market |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 4:42pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Why are you unable to explain why allahh deceived the muslims about the true person of Jesus? Why was he saying Jesus the son of Mary and not Muhammad the son of Amina or Ishmael the son of Hagai? 3 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by Annunaki(m): 4:53pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
truthman2012: You should know the answer to this na, allaah already confessed in the quoran that he is the best of deceivers. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 5:25pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
truthman2012: Seriously I never knew you were this backward. But its fine tho. I guess Allah was also hiding the identity of Moses' mother and Father by not putting his father/mother's name while mentioning him. how about that lol. Mugaffal 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 6:00pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
let me even explain this and shut u up. and at least help the plight of your ignorance a bit. The conceivation of Iesa was not natural Mar'yam conciecevd iesa in the holy way. Not through physical sexual intercourse. So now we can't say Joseph is his biological father since he didn't have the intercourse and not his semen begot Iesa. Now neither can we say Allah is the Father also because Allah was not born and he doesn't born a child as said in Quran 112. Quran 112 (Surah al'ikhlas). 112:1 - Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One, 112:2 - Allah, the Eternal Refuge 112:3 - He neither begets nor is born 112:4 - nor is there to Him any equivalent. Allah is wiser than you. that's why Iesa was mentioned with his mother's name. not with his Father's. So long.... 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 7:45pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: You are not answering the question but instead you are adding to it. Why wasn't allahh adding Moses mother's name to him like that of Jesus? 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 7:55pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: You didn't make any sense here. Why would allahh add Joseph to Jesus name if he was his biological father? Why didn't he add Abdullai to Muhammad's name in the quran? That Jesus didn't have a natural father is not a reasonable reason to always identify him by his mother's name. Am yet to come across a fanatical muslim who reasons properly. Smh! 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 8:02pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Annunaki: Of course I know the answer, I only want to open muslims' eyes to the falsehood of islam. |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 8:02pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Annunaki: Of course I know the answer, I only want to open the muslims' eyes to the falsehood of islam. |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by Jummymine(f): 8:30pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
First, Jesus had no father, he only had a mother. However, other prophets mentioned in the Qur'aan were mentioned almost every time without adding their father's name. This is jut to stress the humanness of Jesus, so that we are not distracted by the fact that he had no father and be mislead that God must be his father then, as many apparently are!!! that is why Allaah said in the Qur'an 3:59, "The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be." And he was." Also in the Qur'aan 5:75, "Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!" In a lngthy passage after describing Jesus's wonderful birth and his miracles, Allaah said in Qur'aan 19:34-35, "Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is." NOTE THAT BEING BORN WITHOUT A FATHER OCCURS REGULARLY IN NATURE. parthenogenesis is a type of asexual reproduction in which the offspring develops from unfertilized eggs. It is particularly common amongst arthropods and rotifers, can also be found in some species of fish, amphibians, birds, and reptiles, but not naturally in mammals. In 1938, scientists made a male rabbit without a father!!! if Allaah created a male without a father, it's His prerogative. Sadly billions are now worhipping that special creature. Sad! 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by Jummymine(f): 8:37pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
First, Jesus had no father, he only had a mother. However, other prophets mentioned in the Qur'aan were mentioned almost every time without adding their father's name. This is jut to stress the humanness of Jesus, so that we are not distracted by the fact that he had no father and be mislead that God must be his father then, as many apparently are!!! that is why Allaah said in the Qur'an 3:59, "The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be." And he was." Also in the Qur'aan 5:75, "Christ the son of Mary was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!" In a lengthy passage after describing Jesus's wonderful birth and his miracles, Allaah said in Qur'aan 19:34-35, "Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is." NOTE THAT BEING BORN WITHOUT A FATHER OCCURS REGULARLY IN NATURE. parthenogenesis is a type of asexual reproduction in which the offspring develops from unfertilized eggs. It is particularly common amongst arthropods and rotifers, can also be found in some species of fish, amphibians, birds, and reptiles, but not naturally in mammals. In 1938, scientists made a male rabbit without a father!!! if Allaah created a male without a father, it's His prerogative. Sadly billions are now worhipping that special creature. Sad! |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 9:53pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Jummymine: So many things are wrong with this your post. Firstly, the quran goofed by saying ''The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be." And he was''. How was Jesus like Adam? Did Adam have a mother? ''Be and he was'' is also incorrect when it comes to the creation of Adam and the birth of Jesus. Be and he was should mean the SPOKEN WORD but neither Adam nor Jesus was spoken into existence. No other human came into existence with a mother but no father. Therefore you are wrong to assert that being born without a father is a regular occurrence in nature. Human nature is not the same as animal nature. If am wrong, tell me which other human was born by a woman without a father. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by malvisguy212: 9:56pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Jummymine What is the purpose of the virgin birth in the quran? Because God cannot interrupt His law of pro-creation just for Jesus to be born of a virgin.surly there must be a reason for this. Surah 21:91: “And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: WE BREATH into her of Our spirit, and We made her and HER SON a sign for all peoples.” (Yusuf Ali) The emphasis on the manner by which “HER SON” was brought into being within her by the miraculous power of God’s holy spirit, without any reference to a human father, re-emphasizes the miraculous conception of Jesus Christ. This Qur’anic verse clearly tells us that his conception took place through the aid of GOD'S SPIRIT. It states: “WE BREATH INTO HER OF OUR SPIRIT .” Centuries before the Qur’an even came into existence the Holy Bible attested to this truth: Matthew1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the HOLY SPIRIT. Both the quran and bible agree, Jesus was conceived through a virgin, but the quran did not state the reason.being the SON OF GOD there is NO other way to have been conceived ONLY through the virgin birth. If you don't know the father of Jesus ,you do not know the true God. 11 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 10:02pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Love this. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by malvisguy212: 10:14pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
truthman2012:you see, the quran copy the bible, and the bible is all about Jesus christ,the old testament forestshadow the coming of Jesus in the new testament,what is the purpose of God put his spirit on Jesus in the quran? the writers of the quran did not know all this,that is why the quran give authority to Jesus more than muhammed and then mixed the truth with lies just to deceive mankind. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by Jummymine(f): 11:29pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
I'll post one more last time in reply to the two replies above. One lat time, because I realise that religion is intereting; even the evidently clear becomes confused due to upbringing and indoctrination. What is the purpose of the virgin birth in the quran? Because God cannot interrupt His law of pro-creation just for Jesus to be born of a virgin.surly there must be a reason for this I said first that it is Allaah's prerogative do do whatever He wants. He created Aadam without father or mother, he created Eve from Adam (no mother) and He created Jesus (PBUH) without a father. Allaah has Power over all things, my brother. Enough as a reason is to test humans whether they will recognize His power to create HOWEVER He wills, and not fall for the creation. People have fallen for the Sun, the Moon, mighty oceans, and many powerful and wonderful humans like Fir'awn, Ogun, Oya etc. Allaah gave all these His creature soo many wonderful qualities that stand out. Being born without a father is one of Jesus's qualities.. You emphasize the virgin birth. No MUSLIM worth the name disputes this. But your reasoning that if he was not born of a father, then God Himself must be the father is a falacy if there ever was one. Concerning the spirit issue,[/i] my brother, man is made up of the earthly part: dust for aadam, then the sperm and egg for the others. As for the others, it is a SOUL, A spirit from God. This is blown into every single human being. In Islaamic theology, it is blown into the foetus at the 4th month of intrauterine life by an angel. In Islaamic theology, The spirit was blown into Mry through her sleeve. Allaah attributes the blowing to Himself as He is the One in charge of it. Akpabio said he built a world class hospital in Akwa Ibom does not mean he was carrying poun-poun nor bricks." NOTE, "We made her and HER SON a sign for all peoples.” People should recognize God's power through His wonderful works, not worship His wonderful creature. [i]Concerning parthogenesis, boy, human beings have done it sef! read below:[b][/b] On August 2, 2007, after much independent investigation, it was revealed that discredited South Korean scientist Hwang Woo-Suk unknowingly produced the first human embryos resulting from parthenogenesis. Initially, Hwang claimed he and his team had extracted stem cells from cloned human embryos, a result later found to be fabricated. Further examination of the chromosomes of these cells show indicators of parthenogenesis in those extracted stem cells, similar to those found in the mice created by Tokyo scientists in 2004. Although Hwang deceived the world about being the first to create artificially cloned human embryos, he did contribute a major breakthrough to stem cell research by creating human embryos using parthenogenesis.[86] The truth was discovered in 2007, long after the embryos were created by him and his team in February 2004. This made Hwang the first, unknowingly, to successfully perform the process of parthenogenesis to create a human embryon and, ultimately, a human parthenogenetic stem cell line." If we were to go by your logic, We for worship the "parthogenized" humans. FINALLY, Allaah say in the Qur'aan 5:72, " They do blaspheme who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode." AS FOR THE QUR'AAN COPYING THE BIBLE, sorry o! Rather, when ever people mess up and interpolate any of Allaah's revelation, he brings forth another Prophet to re-clear the message etc. The Qur'aan merely corrects the Pauline and subsequent distortions that polluted the message of Jesus and Moses and the Prophets before him. That is why there may be some similarities and some differences. Allaah said in the Qur'aan, " And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad ) the Book (this Qur'an) in truth, confirming the Scriptures that came before it and a witness over them (old Scriptures) . So judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging away from the truth that has come to you. To each among you, We have prescribed a law and a clear way. If Allah willed, He would have made you one nation, but that (He) may test you in what He has given you; so strive as in a race in good deeds. The return of you (all) is to Allah; then He will inform you about that in which you used to differ.". MAY GOD PROVIDE HIS GUIDANCE TO THOSE THAT SEEK IT. aamin. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by malvisguy212: 1:29am On Oct 24, 2015 |
Jummymine A whole Surah is named after her(Mary) Surah Maryam. In the Quran, NOT even EVE . the mother of the HUMAN RACE is mentioned by name. What is the reason for such exultation of Mary in the Quran? It is because of her significant place in human history as the only woman to bear a son while still a virgin. And she play a significant role in raising the SON OF GOD. Adam was the first man, God could not have create him with parents because he was the first, that how it supposed to be. But in the case of Jesus christ,he was born without a human father when God’s natural process of procreation had long been in existence. Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special RELATIONSHIP With the ONE WHO IS BEHIND ALL THIS MIRACLE. Surah 4:171: “The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and A SPIRIT FROM HIM.” The words used in Surah 4:171 are ruhun-minhu, “ A SPIRIT FROM HIM.” thus the quran clearly say Jesus is A spirit from God, NO other prophet is adress like this in the quran, what is the reason Jesus is called " A SPIRIT FROM HIM"? No reason were given, is there any different in saying Jesus is the SON OF GOD and HE IS A SPIRIT FROM GOD ? 4 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by mustymatic(m): 6:28am On Oct 24, 2015 |
Jummymine:Aameen my brother, Jazaakallaah bi khair 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by Nobody: 6:44am On Oct 24, 2015 |
Allah(S.W.T) had to distinguish the jesus he was talking about, because many bore the name jesus, now before malvisguy212 and truthman2012 begin to open their brown teeth and ask for scriptural evidence lets see this verse, "So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, "Which one do you want me to release to you: J.ESUS BARABBAS, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?(NIV, Mattew27:17)" now barabbas first name is also jesus, although the king james bible dont have jesus infront of barabbas, but the NIV bible proves my point. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 7:27am On Oct 24, 2015 |
malvisguy212: Ride on bro. God bless you real good. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by malvisguy212: 7:28am On Oct 24, 2015 |
lexiconkabir:your confusion is beyond imagination,you quote from the bible which you claim is corrupted,untop of that ,you are putting allah word in the bible. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by malvisguy212: 7:33am On Oct 24, 2015 |
mustymatic:jazaa what ? Shut up. Your brother fail woefully. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by truthman2012(m): 8:05am On Oct 24, 2015 |
malvisguy212: The Devil has seriously deceived the muslims calling himself allah. Is it not for a purpose Jesus was born without an earthly father? Not until the muslims discover the purpose they are in danger of hell. It is ONLY Jesus that is the word and a spirit from allah in the quran. Why? It is ONLY Jesus that is born by a virgin in the quran. Why? It is ONLY Jesus that is given power for miracles in the quran. Why? It is ONLY Jesus mother's name that allah mentioned among all women. Why? It is ONLY Jesus name that is mentioned 25 times in the quran and even Muhammad only 4. Why? Muslims, it is time for you to discover WHY Jesus is so SPECIAL in the Bible and Quran. There lies your escape from eternal damnation. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by Nobody: 9:15am On Oct 24, 2015 |
malvisguy212:lmaoooo , you asked a question, i gave an irrefutable answer you tagged me confused? man you are such a clown, you should be in papa ajasco and company . As regards the embolden, your problem is, you dont read with discernment, when did i exhibit your claim? 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by Jummymine(f): 9:53am On Oct 24, 2015 |
I can sympathize with the plight of Christians who can only understand that any special thing about Jesus can only mean that he is God! It's due to years of indoctrination. However, as I said earlier, it means nothing, if you understand God. As Islaam teaches us, He does that He wills. If he had a virgin give birth to a Son, so be it. It increases me as a Muslim in awe of Him, not make me start worshipping that creature of HIs. Especially now that we realise that human beings have made similar stuff in the labs, and the same happens in the lower animals regularly, very regularly in nature. The sun is an awesome creature, so is the Moon, but Allaah says, "Do not bow down to the Sun, nor the Moon, but bow down to Him who has created them, if indeed you would be worshippers." Here we see God interrupting the course of nature, and overriding the very laws of procreation that he had himself established, in order that Christ might thus have a virgin-birth. Why? Surely such an act could not have been without meaning. It points to the profound truth that Jesus Christ held a very special RELATIONSHIP With the ONE WHO IS BEHIND ALL THIS MIRACLE. Brother, sorry o! Indeed Muslims believe Jesus is special among God's creation. He was among the five greatest humans (Prophet) that walked on earth. That is where the "specialty" is. If you can free up your mind a bit, you'll realise that being special cannot mean being God by default. Infact we Muslims call Moses Kaleemullaah (He who speaks directly with God), it was special about him. We wouldn't worship him or turn him into Gods son because of that. Yes Jesus was born miraculously, but he yet did even more ordinary things. He used to weep and cry for breastmilk as a babay, such breast and mess his nappy with poo just like you did. he ed to get hungry just as you do, and his shit used to smell, just as yours does. He had faces located in his intestines just like you do. He used to get tired, feel pain, eat bread and figs just as you would do. His mouth used to have odour in the mornings just as yours does, and he needed a toothstick to clean t just like you. If this does not "ordinarilize" him enough for you, sorry i can't help you. Only in Allaah's hands is Guidance. Note the last part of these quoted verses in Qur'aan 3:38-48, "This is of the tidings of things unseen which WE reveal to thee. And thou was not with them when they cast their arrows, as to which of them should be the guardian of Mary, nor was thou with them when they disputed with one another. When the angels said, 'O Mary, ALLAH gives thee glad tidings of a son through a word from HIM; his name shall be the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, honoured in this world and in the next, and of those who are granted nearness to God; 'And he shall speak to the people in the cradle, and when of middle age, and he shall be of the righteous. She said, 'My Lord, how shall I have a son, when no man has touched me? He said, 'Such is the way of ALLAH. HE creates what HE pleases. When HE decrees a thing HE says to it ‘Be,’ and it is;"— Note that we must enter discussions, even religious ones with clear eyes and deep thought, not just to come and regurgitate what so-and-so said. We MUST NOT GIVE IN TO ABUSIVE LANGUAGE, INSULTS AND THE LIKES. IT IS UNBEFITTING FOR PEOPLE OF REASON AND ADULTS. I PRAY ALLAAH GUIDES THE LOST. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by Okanokan(m): 10:13am On Oct 24, 2015 |
The Jewish people by thier tradition inhere or inherit through thier mother and not through thier father. The tradition is of the belief that the mother of a child can easily be known than the father, whose fatherhood can easily be disputed. The Jewish society is a matrilineal society. |
Re: Why Did Allah Always Call Jesus By Mary's Name? by Jummymine(f): 10:14am On Oct 24, 2015 |
Forgot to address the bolded and italized: It is ONLY Jesus that is given power for miracles in the quran. Why? That's a clearly false assertion, my brother. Abrahams and Moses' and others were mentioned in the Qur'aan. Read the following and note the stresses on God's sovereignty and his messengership. Allaah said in the Qur'aan 3:45-50, "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous. And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel. And (appoint him) a messenger to the Children of Israel, (with this message): "I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah's leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah's leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe. (I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me." It is ONLY Jesus name that is mentioned 25 times in the quran and even Muhammad only 4. Why? yes he was mentioned 25 times, so what?! Moses was mentioned 136 times. Does that make him a senior son of God? Jacob was mentioned 59 times. Was he also a senior brother to Jesus in God's family? you can hang on to many thin straws, but only a open heart and the ability to question what you've been told will help you , after God's Grace for guidance. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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