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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 9:01am On Oct 23, 2015 |
Oga lastpage, do you really mean my builds?Can you give me one example of those builds that were amended and the problems. ______ Could it be the 6" block foundation in PH. Tell me you haven't seen other builds like that on this same platform by the most respected builders or maybe you choose to turn blind eye to them because it's not Brabus. Once again God punish hypocrisy! ![]() I'm sure you'll be familiar with this build and the pictures below because you made comment on the thread. How come you and the whole Nairaland didn't wade in to help? ![]() There's a big difference between fact and fiction. Everything I've said here are backed up with verifiable pictures/datas and not some postulated theories. Until you show me the same bro, I'll only take it that you're on a long-thing. Why is it hard for the designer to send the pictures of the structural calculations? #givingtreatmentwithoutprescription #ideaisneed
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abouzaid: 9:12am On Oct 23, 2015 |
i hate the bad blood, hypocrisy and backbiting on this thread. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abouzaid: 9:25am On Oct 23, 2015 |
abdulwastecx:please are you familiar with building practices in Niger state? we often use gravel (locally referred to as concrete sand) only because of cost and i haven't seen any negative results but here on nairaland it's exclusively granite. what do you think of it? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 9:30am On Oct 23, 2015 |
abouzaid: maturity is the key my brother... 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:34am On Oct 23, 2015 |
brabus: Excuse me Ladies and Gents. As per the comment with brabus, I am aware of a lot of atrocities that were committed during the building phase of projects that were handled by brabus. 1) Building with fake/incorrect plans. Built house A with a plan designed for house B and still collecting the money from the owner of house A for full set of building plans. 2) Missed supporting pillars 3) I also agree with the comments of a previous poster who said that brabus likes to be (Engineer (:-). Architect, Builder, Electrician, Carpenter, Bricklayer, Plumber) When I started constructing my building, and I asked brabus if I could speak to his architect to tell him what I wanted, he said NO that I should tell him what I want and he would pass the message on. At that point, I smelt a rat and decided to get an external architect. How on this earth can someone want to charge me over 200k for architectural drawings but I am not allowed to speak to the architect to discuss what I want. It just sounded to me as ridiculous. I still have an outstanding case with Brabus that he's refusing to settle. Full details to come later as it appears there is no resolution on the horizon. 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 9:46am On Oct 23, 2015 |
^^^ I'm outta here. God help you bro! Can we get to the site to check the missed pillars? At least I asked for the same to be done with Sir Brag3. And when we did, nothing disastrous came out. So why not let us do the same. Thank God we didn't do the plans maybe it'll be another story of fake plans. And for the missing supporting pillar, how come the Architect (one of the most respected Nairalander who did the fake/incorrect plan I guess) didn't spot it after visiting more than 4 times during the build. I guess we are all waiting for a time like this. I pose it to you sir and your followers that I'm ready for the challenge. Let's walk through the build and show the world where and what I did wrong. That won't cost us anything other than time! #Godpunishhypocrisy. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 9:48am On Oct 23, 2015 |
abouzaid: Niger state is my my home (suleja my place of birth) I have resided in suleja ad minna. In suleja, we have a lot of quarry sourcing granite ( which i also call gravel ) is not that expensive, but in minna and bida, granite tends to be a bit expensive so people use local stone in that area. what people call gravel is actually referred to natural stones or all in one aggregates, since they occur naturally , gradation may be very difficult to do. Here is my opinion sir, natural stone with rough surface other than metamorphic rock can be use for building construction of smaller bungalows where structural integrity is not of a paramount important. For larger house or structures, a well graded stone (granite) free from dust and with appreciable crushing strength should be use. I always put this into use when i am in the east (anambra), the condition there |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 9:52am On Oct 23, 2015 |
abouzaid: nairaland is a true representation of our society.....you don't have to too surprise with that sir. most time i ignore that and move on 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 10:03am On Oct 23, 2015 |
EgunMogaji:this building deserve the award of " poor workmanship of the year" 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 10:09am On Oct 23, 2015 |
brabus: The missed pillars were not at my site neither were the inconsistent drawings or what can be termed misrepresented drawings, i am referring to the situation with Sir Brag3. It was not at my own site because I didn't use your phantom architects to do my plans and also your invisible structural engineer to do the calculations. I challenge Brabus to confirm/deny the following queries about Brag3 architectural drawing plans. 1) Was it drawn for Sir brag3's actual site, the drawings tendered to him were they for another site or for his site, because apparently what was on ground isn't what was on the drawings you gave him ? 2) The structural drawings, were they drawn up by a COREN registered structural engineer ? I am not talking of the new plans that you intend to do for him, I am talking of the one used 10 or so months ago when the construction started ? 3) Details of the architect that drew Sir Brag3's drawings, name, registered office and qualifications. 4) Were Sir Brag3's drawings stamped by a COREN registered engineer, I am not referring to new plans but the one you originally did earlier this year or late last year. If myself/whole world can get the answers to these questions, that would be good. I don't want waffle just simple answers to simple questions. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 10:15am On Oct 23, 2015 |
abdulwastecx: wow i grew up in suleja... sdp junction area and kwamba.. got married to my beautiful wife at suleja as well before we moved to Lagos, weldone Engr |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abouzaid: 10:28am On Oct 23, 2015 |
abdulwastecx:thanks a lot, you're one of the few if not only other builder here that approach issues with a realistic and down to earth approach making use of locally available and widely used techniques instead of the television type packaging that others often adopt. i hope you're enjoying anambra? idemmilli is a nice place although I'm a bit worried about the gradual emergence of Lagos like levies and extortions with the associated omo onile mentality. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:28am On Oct 23, 2015 |
mavverick: Mr Oga, you need to get off this your bring-him-down mentality. It doesn't work! Especially, not for someone like who keep records. FYI, I did did the drawing specifically for Brag3 using the existing building dimension and sent over 7 roof options to choose from. I have records. I'm not a noise maker and I deal with facts and not mere assumptions. https://www.nairaland.com/1588017/nexthome-builders-2014-2015-new/1#27346402 We did back and forth on the drawing for over 2 months. _____ For the structural drawings, check the name on the drawing. He's one of the biggest structural guy in Ikorodu. Does that answer you question? You can probe further and do your findings. _____ The original "working" drawings we used for construction of the project were fully stamped and sealed and are already delivered to the client. Does that help? What more do the whole world need to know? You may want to ask why are there more pillars than the drawings specified? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 10:46am On Oct 23, 2015 |
brabus: Bros I dont have anything to gain from bringing anyone down. For me, It would be sad if anyone else enters your one chance and is grieving like the way i am and also your other victims. I asked simple questions, you failed to provide simple answers. For the avoidance of doubt and for all to see, check https://www.nairaland.com/1588017/nexthome-builders-2014-2015-new/33 and you can read the allegations by brag3. You waffled again, not answering my questions in a clear way. Let me make them more simpler and one liners. with Yes / No and please just answer Yay or Nay or should i call Saraki to question you ? 1) Forget options or roof design, Brag3 claims the drawings (structural and architectural) you gave him isn't what was on site. Did you commission a drawing for him or use that of another person YES / NO ![]() 2) Did a Coren registered engineer do his structural drawings ? YES / NO 3) I dont care where the architect lives, just provide us with name, registered office and qualifications. Hopefully you can also help advertise his services. (Shifting nose ![]() 4) Were Brag3's structural drawings stamped by a COREN engineer ? YES / NO 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:58am On Oct 23, 2015 |
^^^^ Yes to all your question! All the drawings carry COREN stamp and ARCON seal. The same drawing he claimed were not his is what he has now fully stamped and sealed. Thank you for your interest! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 11:00am On Oct 23, 2015 |
mavverick: hello boss, I didnt hear from you again? as per our discusion hope u still have in mind sir, |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:18am On Oct 23, 2015 |
twinskenny: kwanba is yoruba capital of Niger state..... bros hope you enjoy your growing up in suleja.? I be confirm suleja boy |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 11:18am On Oct 23, 2015 |
brabus:Haha Thats not what he's claiming, referring to https://www.nairaland.com/1588017/nexthome-builders-2014-2015-new/33 Were the drawings stamped before construction especially the structural ones or you backdated it after he complained to you ? As i understand it, there was some reconciliation with the drawings etc. Still no details of your architect nor your structural engineer abi was it you ? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:22am On Oct 23, 2015 |
abouzaid: Thanks sir......Anambra is a good state, people are friendly here. My activities here after work are my FIFA 16 game and weekend premier league games. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 11:27am On Oct 23, 2015 |
^^^ @mavverick, I have better things to do with my time. Do your findings! I owe you no explanation and I do not have any need to engage in this unproductive discussion. If you had issues with me, please do the needful. The sheer amount of posts that you put out on this subject makes you look like a big baby. The names of the registered structural engineer and detailers are on the drawings. Ask for their details. Thank you! I'm done. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 11:35am On Oct 23, 2015 |
I am still being patient and waiting for my N420k that was paid to you and you provided me with a fake approval document, or is that a lie ? 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 11:52am On Oct 23, 2015 |
lastpage: Wow. If that is the case you are right. It serve no purpose. Yiu can have a metal detector without those tiny doors. Thx. Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 11:55am On Oct 23, 2015 |
I am looking for good settee or sofa set. Any recommendations around the ikeja ipaja area. I have seen LG leather that look good does anyone know their furniture depo. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 12:03pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
mavverick: You missed out 'omo nile'. ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 12:12pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
NL1960: Yes oo. When I wasnt dealing with omonile, it was made so difficult and so complicated. Although it didnt help that some miscreants were also working against me, not brabus in this case. When i thought brabus was omonile, I realised he wasnt when omonile was blocking work because of a mere 5k or 10k. Brabus would prefer to let omonile hold up work so that he can claim to me that caster had to do return job and thus charge me for casting twice. How can someone be this wicked !!! So many times small money like 2k, 5k (even though over 8m passed through him) were made to hold up work so as to prove a point to me that he was better handling things from start to finish and I should not supply any material so that he can defraud me (not with prices but with quantity, if he needs 100, he will quote you 250 at a cheaper rate and you will be thinking you are getting a bargain), he even sent me a whatsapp message saying that when I was giving him money on a contract basis to handle all the works, did any omonile disturb ?? So his point is that my involvement was not welcomed, he even said to my friend that if he did the work (cant remember the specific scope of the work) 100 bags of cement will be ok, and if my friend supplied the cement 100 bags of cement wouldnt be enough. Something along those lines (example). This guy is toxic, enough said. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 12:55pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
abdulwastecx: FIFA 16 ![]() I thought it was only me because of the agbalagba-ness of this property section |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 1:13pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
KolaShangOne:no be only you oo |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 1:16pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
KolaShangOne: Haha Been a long time i played games oo, i dont know if its just the fact that life has now taken a different perspective or if its age !! lol Any of you guys ever played Assassins Creed ? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 2:03pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Spotlight on Abeokuta, NG - The Evolving Nigerian City The city will be adding more than 2.5 million new residents in the next decade and the government is getting ready. The city has been turned into a giant construction site with mega projects here and there. A new urban space is evolving. ______ Pictures taken this afternoon during a site investigation meeting in Abeokuta, Ogun state. @chekitaut you dey chop alone.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 2:08pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
Spotlight on Abeokuta, NG - The City with a View There's no way I'll touch base without touching my foster home (Ibara Housing Estate) #thenextbigthing
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:33pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
KolaShangOne: One more FIFA talk, and I am sending all of you to Europe. ![]() Hajji M. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:37pm On Oct 23, 2015 |
brabus: And some of us were there from the beginning, but at the end only the Baba G.O. got invited to the house opening/warming o. But then Baba no dey drink Non-Alcoholic Hennessy or shepe, so I understood. God dey o. Hajji M. |
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