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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by chineloSA(f): 2:25pm On Oct 25, 2015
SirWere:
Abortion to me is not a sin. Why give birth to a child you can't care for

Why have sex and when you know you may conceive a child that you know cant care for?? smiley

If you are married, you don't have to worry about the means, because God always provide. And he makes conception possible and also provide for it.
If you are unmarried you have no business in having an act purposely meant for conception. smiley
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by rosalieene(f): 2:25pm On Oct 25, 2015
I think this should not be a question! You know its wrong and the world condemn it SUPPORT PRO-LIFE TODAY!! Say no to abortion!! Do not deny a Child the right to live all ya who are supporting or indulging in abortion #abstinence remains the best

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by queebeediva(f): 2:26pm On Oct 25, 2015
johnydon22:
Both are equally barbaric. .

anyway this is enough to show any reasonable person that these concepts are constructs of the mind of the people who lay them out & a reflection of the cultural ideology of the cultures where it is found..
inorder words God doesn't exist kwanu? So who come create our fore father wen creat our father wen create us?
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by Nobody: 2:26pm On Oct 25, 2015
freecocoa:
And you have decided to be useless all by yourself, bravo.

Curse don't work on me sugar, I'm above such nonsense.
My sweet heart wink cheesy
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by raayah(f): 2:27pm On Oct 25, 2015
abbey621:


How does it equate to abortion? Are you saying all women who experience a miscarriage did an abortion? Or has the definition of abortion changed?

No, the water caused her to have an abortion. A forced miscarriage with water/pills/injection is abortion.
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by jearile(m): 2:27pm On Oct 25, 2015
raayah:
Read Through

Numbers 5 vs 20-23

20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband"--

21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse--"may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries." "'Then the woman is to say, "Amen. So be it."

23 "'The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water.
Just imagine if Mary had aborted Jesus Christ... Every situation may not come from God but God cannot turn around every situation.
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by raayah(f): 2:28pm On Oct 25, 2015
chineloSA:


Why have sex and when you know you may conceive a child that you know cant care for?? smiley

If you are married, you don't have to worry about the means, because God always provide. And he makes conception possible and also provide for it.
If you are unmarried you have no business in having an act purposely meant for conception. smiley

So God does not provide for kids with unmarried parents?

The wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth, speaking lies. They have venom like the venom of a serpent. … Let them vanish like water that runs away, like grass let them be trodden down and wither. Let them be like the snail which dissolves into slime, like the untimely birth that never sees the sun. Psalms 58:3-8
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by UltimateDaniel(m): 2:28pm On Oct 25, 2015
It's the days of the Law!!! Now we are in the time of Grace, with Salvation brought to us through JESUS CHRIST, Who help us obey this laws efficiently!!! Abomination Is not and will never be recommended in the Bible!!! A soul that sinneth would die... Repent and amend your ways with GOD... Don't have sex when you are not ready for the responsibility attached to it
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by oyesjoy: 2:31pm On Oct 25, 2015
Why twisting the word of God, it was clearly about adulterous woman? If this person that posted this, wants to do abortion, go ahead, why drag the name of God in the mud.
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by raayah(f): 2:33pm On Oct 25, 2015
oyesjoy:
Why twisting the word of God, it was clearly about adulterous woman? If this person that posted this, wants to do abortion, go ahead, why drag the name of God in the mud.

I asked a simple yes/no question.
Does the bible support abortion?
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by adjoviomole(m): 2:33pm On Oct 25, 2015
raayah:
Read Through

Numbers 5 vs 20-23

20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband"--

21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse--"may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries." "'Then the woman is to say, "Amen. So be it."

23 "'The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water.




I hope u knoW wot u are doin? Read dat chapter 5 from the begining to the end. Der is nothing like supporting abortion in d chapter u quoted, der is even nothin about abortion in it, it was only talkn about adultrous women n how dey her found out n revealed during the old testament. Keep misleading ppl. May God forgive u anyways.no mata wot u all say about d bible it will forever remain d word of God.

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by mohammedmagnus: 2:33pm On Oct 25, 2015
raayah:


I am not defiling religion. I asked a very simple question.
i wasn't referring to you, i was referring to people generally be it Christian, muslim, atheist, etc. we shouldn't go about insulting one another we can't all have the same belief system it's not possible....... And as for some ignorant Christians who think "isreal" is a Christian state, no it isn't it's a "Jewish " state. that contains holy sites relevant to the 5 religions of the abrahamic oath. Namely Judaism, Christianity, islam, druzeism, bahai faith. so stop famzing the country like you own it. we should stop hating because we all follow the same basic creed.
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by neocortex: 2:34pm On Oct 25, 2015
chineloSA:


Unfortunately for you madame you selected what you thought is the weakness of the verse. You did not read from the beginning of what transpired before it gets to verse 22-23.

Read the whole chapter please. If you are trying to confuse people may the Lord judge you. If you are questioning because you need understanding please read the whole Chapter. Here is Deutorocanonical version.

To me this was to prove the innocence of a woman suspected of adultery and carrying another mans child. They would make the woman swear under Oath, if the the woman was innocent, the pregnancy would stay and if the woman was guilty she would miscarry. Which is what some cultural villages do to prove innocence. This was in no way abortion.



Cases of Wives with Suspicious Husbands
11The Lord commanded Moses 12-14to give the Israelites the following instructions. It may happen that a man becomes suspicious that his wife is unfaithful to him and has defiled herself by having intercourse with another man. But the husband may not be certain, for his wife may have kept it secret — there was no witness, and she was not caught in the act. Or it may happen that a husband becomes suspicious of his wife, even though she has not been unfaithful. 15In either case the man shall take his wife to the priest. He shall also take the required offering of one kilogramme of barley flour, but he shall not pour any olive oil on it or put any incense on it, because it is an offering from a suspicious husband, made to bring the truth to light.
16The priest shall bring the woman forward and make her stand in front of the altar. 17He shall pour some holy water into a clay bowl and take some of the earth that is on the floor of the Tent of the Lord's presence and put it in the water to make it bitter. 18Then he shall loosen the woman's hair and put the offering of flour in her hands. In his hands the priest shall hold the bowl containing the bitter water that brings a curse. 19Then the priest shall make the woman agree to this oath spoken by the priest: “If you have not committed adultery, you will not be harmed by the curse that this water brings. 20But if you have committed adultery, 21may the Lord make your name a curse among your people. May he cause your genital organs to shrink and your stomach to swell up. 22May this water enter your stomach and cause it to swell up and your genital organs to shrink.”
The woman shall respond, “I agree; may the Lord do so.”
23Then the priest shall write this curse down and wash the writing off into the bowl of bitter water. 24Before he makes the woman drink the water, which may then cause her bitter pain, 25the priest shall take the offering of flour out of the woman's hands, hold it out in dedication to the Lord, and present it on the altar. 26Then he shall take a handful of it as a token offering and burn it on the altar. Finally, he shall make the woman drink the water. 27If she has committed adultery, the water will cause bitter pain; her stomach will swell up and her genital organs will shrink. Her name will become a curse among her people. 28But if she is innocent, she will not be harmed and will be able to bear children.
29-30This is the law in cases where a man is jealous and becomes suspicious that his wife has committed adultery. The woman shall be made to stand in front of the altar, and the priest shall perform this ritual. 31The husband shall be free of guilt, but the woman, if guilty, must suffer the consequences.

It is clear from what you posted that abortion is prescribed punishment for
an adulterous woman.
So what is the essence of your post ?

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by samsonkjohn: 2:34pm On Oct 25, 2015
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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by neocortex: 2:34pm On Oct 25, 2015
Heymus:
must you say this to your creator just to gain attention on nl or . . .?, may almighty God have mercy on you. Repent. Jesus is waiting for you

Whic of the creator , Allah , Yahweh or Obatala ?

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by Nobody: 2:35pm On Oct 25, 2015
after you don commit abortion you de hassle justification abi? na you first , 2nd or u have lost count? Pls repent. that's all I can say.
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by Nobody: 2:37pm On Oct 25, 2015
neocortex:
God changes whenever culture change.
@ your stupíd comment, you have a looooooong way to go...

Can you imagine the nonsense you spewed?

God never change
Culture change people.

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by nigeriancuban: 2:37pm On Oct 25, 2015
what!! so that was written inside the same bible people believe in? hmm na wa oo,sometimes even myself even doubt if Christianity is actually the true religion,that's if there is even a hereafter though...

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by Biosahal: 2:37pm On Oct 25, 2015
exxell:
As a Christian, na one eye I dey take look that Old testament god. Most times, there is no difference between him nd the Muslim Allah. Very radical in nature.
Can u tell me a verse in the Quran that permit adultery and abortion?
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by neocortex: 2:38pm On Oct 25, 2015
jearile:

Just imagine if Mary had aborted Jesus Christ... Every situation may not come from God but God cannot turn around every situation.

Paul would have filled the gap.

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by charlsecy(m): 2:38pm On Oct 25, 2015
damton:
The coming of Jesus has displaced injunctions like these.
gamaliel121:
That is why jesus came...and modified everything..
Who put in place what Jesus modified? Was the "first structure" a mistake... because I know the essence of modifications is to correct an imbalance?

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by Yanks101: 2:39pm On Oct 25, 2015
God knew jeremiah right from his mother's womb and ordained him as a prophet. He knows the names and destinies of every human foetus even when they are in the womb..
John the baptist received the baptism of the holyspirit in his mother's womb.
Right or wrong, you can't expect God to condone such.
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by opeopeope: 2:40pm On Oct 25, 2015
raayah:
Read Through

Numbers 5 vs 20-23

20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband"--

21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse--"may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries." "'Then the woman is to say, "Amen. So be it."

23 "'The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them into the bitter water.



YOU DID NOT READ IT TO THE END. READ IT TO VERSE 29. IT SHOWS THAT IS THE LAW OF JEALOUSNESS. IT IS WHEN THE WOMAN IS DEFILED AND THE HUSBAND SUSPECTS IT AND REPORTS TO THE PRIEST THAT THE PRIEST WILL GIVE HER THE WATER THAT WILL MAKE THE BELLY SWELL AND THE THIGH OF THE WOMAN TO ROT IF SHE IS GUILTY BUT SHE WILL GIVE BIRTH UNHARMED IF SHE IS GUILTLESS. ALWAYS READ THE CHAPTER TO THE END BEFORE DRAWING CONCLUSIONS. MAY GOD HELP YOU.


GOD DOES NOT SUPPORT ABORTION...

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by Okies27(m): 2:40pm On Oct 25, 2015
raayah:
Read Through

Numbers 5 vs 20-23

20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband"--

21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse--"may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.

22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries." "'Then the woman is to say, "Amen. So be it."

23 "'The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water.
. What do you expected people who don't know the bible to say? They can't even ask for explanation or search the bible to know what God said about abortion.
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by free2ryhme: 2:40pm On Oct 25, 2015
freecocoa:
See the kind god people decide to worship, that dude is mean sha.


Your opinion does not count for Him to be God.

Whether people worship Him or not He will still be God!
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by Donpiero1: 2:42pm On Oct 25, 2015
so wch one do u serve?
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by neocortex: 2:42pm On Oct 25, 2015
bulldoza:

@ your stupíd comment, you have a looooooong way to go...

Can you imagine the nonsense you spewed?

God never change
Culture change people.


Every inquisitive mind knows that God is a product of culture.
You may wallow in your ignorance and delusion if you like.
But I will advise you ask questions.

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by Nobody: 2:45pm On Oct 25, 2015
chineloSA:


Why have sex and when you know you may conceive a child that you know cant care for?? smiley

If you are married, you don't have to worry about the means, because God always provide. And he makes conception possible and also provide for it.
If you are unmarried you have no business in having an act purposely meant for conception. smiley
Easy for a married person to say but....... Body no be fire wood na...............




Besides, in the days gone by, a 20 year old man was already married and may even have a kid. Nowadays nko I hope you get my point

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Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by HOLYSEE(m): 2:46pm On Oct 25, 2015
The bible in numbers 5 was talking about punishment meted out to those who commit adultery and has nothing to do with pregnancy not to talk of abortion.... This scripture shows us that God is a God of order and justice..... Carefully read the words and get enlightenment
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by chineloSA(f): 2:49pm On Oct 25, 2015
raayah:


So God does not provide for kids with unmarried parents?

On this point we don't need to even be biblical.
Simple common sense. God provide through parents. Having two parents who are in a healthy marriage brings two incomes which when used wisely properly provide for the children's needs and sometimes wants. So single ( never married ) parents rarely ( though some are able ) are able to provide what married parents can.
Not only materially. Psychological, emotional support, social identity and even parental guidance from both parents and other forms of support which are provided by married parents to raise successful children. That is the reason why children from unmarried homes don't grow up to be well rounded children psychologically etc. Some lack trust, direction, manners and even lack models etc. E.g. A man who doesn't know his responsibilities in marriage because he never had a father figure to model his behavior etc.

If you want proof, go to alot of jails and get each incarcerated persons background. Majority are from unmarried parents background and some dysfunctional backgrounds.
Anyways that is a topic for another day.

Your question was " Biblical support of abortion" And I am saying never has the bible supported abortion.
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by Okies27(m): 2:49pm On Oct 25, 2015
raayah:
Read Through

Numbers 5 vs 20-23

20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband"--

21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse--"may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your yabdomen swell.

22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries." "'Then the woman is to say, "Amen. So be it."

23 "'The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water.
. What do you expected people who don't know the bible to say? They can't even ask for explanation or search the bible to know what God said about abortion.... Make her thigh to rot...make her genital to shrink.... don't know the version or where you got that from. People should be careful with the different versions everywhere nowadays
Re: Does The Bible Support Abortion? Numbers Chapter 5 by damton(m): 2:50pm On Oct 25, 2015
charlsecy:


Who put in place what Jesus modified? Was the "first structure" a mistake... because I know the essence of modifications is to correct an imbalance?
. ofcourse, God did. However, seeing the level of perfidy and sacrilege in the conduct of men, God decided to change the devotion of men away from rules, norms and injunctions to true worship in spirit and in truth. Hence, Jesus was sent to this sinful world.

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