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@All this thread to me is a one-stop-shop for all in building industry. The issue of complaints and addressing it properly, I think should be part of this thread as you learn even faster from other peoples mistake. for instance in the case of maverick and Brabus, the lesson I picked in here as a builder is this

(1) Ready to make all necessary corrections before it boomerang.

(2) We builders should know that clients are not fools and their eyes are not are the back of their head they can see clearly even better than us and so we should pay more attention to detail and give our client value for their hard earn money.

(3) When you get discouraged on a Job and your seal to do the job enthusiastically is no more there, please drop the job ( there is a contract law that protects a contractor in that regards irrespective of contract agreement "Frustrated Contract"). I notice Brabus lost intrest in this Job when the client change the contract method from wholesome contract to direct labour. When your spirit is down no matter how good you are you cannot deliver.

I hope with this few point, I have convinced all that I can still go ahead with my contribution in this dispute btw maverick and brabus.

First of all it is wrong for client to claim Brabus did a job that he did not do (I am trying to believe Brabus here). If I start a job does not mean I am responsible for the entire job. But I have some observation that the client could laid his claims on (if his pictures truly depicts Brabus Job) 1. There was a column by the window that left its starter columns reinforcement and sat on the wall, it seems to me that column is critical and it is structurally wrong to have such. This fall within the Job Brabus claim he did/supervised by himself. Also Brabus claimed that he stopped the entire work at first floor slab level, then the omission of beams and corresponding supporting columns are part of his job. But the upper floor columns that is not in alignment and the poorly casted columns are definitely not his responsibility.

I rest my case.

I agree with Honourable Aventures. This thread is marked OT and has some leeway.

Oga Aventures,

Thanks for your input. I wish we can clearly identify the position of the said columns (eg. Column 6 on Grid A). It looks like a column on the external part of the house.

I never had any issue with the client walking out of the contract or providing supplies because there was no contract in the first place. What we had was a builders' quote and a contract from the client on how he wants his project to run. Even the quote excludes all the things the client agrees to supply.

A physical inspection of the project will be the best recommendation in this kind of situation. I know there were modification made which was discussed with the client and the architect came to check twice during the block setting stage.

As per making corrections, honeycombs will have been covered properly if I was the one who supervised the removal of the formwork. I'm sure you read the part that where the client said my boards will be dropped outside the site for me to pick them up. And that's exactly what I did. Was there any call to me up till now to say, "Oh, there were honeycombs here and there. you need to come and fix them." Except we feel honeycombs are impossible in concrete work.

You assume I lost interest because of supplies. No! I lost interest because of the heavy loss incurred. At a point I had to ask the client are you checking the cost spent viz-a-viz budget for this build because there were too many unbudgeted expenses as a result of incomplete supplies and wastages.

When the client changed to direct labour, I changed the workmen to people who can work based on daily pay. For the records, the carpenter who did the lintel and decking took N230k, the iron bender who did the lintel and decking took N170k. Isn't that a fair deal if we are honest with ourselves? The pouring of the concrete was done with 2 machines for N250k (60 labourers were used). The plumber did the rough-in pipe work for N20k paid directly to the guy. Bricklayer took 55k per 1000 blocks which were paid on completion of work. What else do I need to do as a supervisor?

What are the grievances? The honeycomb? Or what parts am I supposed to play that I omitted?

befto:
@mavverick,

Are you saying brabus did this work? you mean this shoddy job was done by the same brabus who comes on here and acts like a building Evangelist?
Never ceases to amaze me with this guy's impunity. Always thinking people are against him without showing any kind of remorse.

This is a disgrace to the building profession and I hope the other builders on this site can speak up on this.

This guy should not be allowed to get away with such atrocities by saying that the other clients are still in contact with him for advice.

So what? is that an excuse to keep producing such dangerous constructions for his clients.

You come on here and comment on other posts and act like you are a real professional but you are just a well packaged cowboy.

It's amazing how other people on this site seem to give you props when they know what you are really like.

You are a disgrace to the other Credible builders on this site.

Are you going to compensate Maverick for this shoddy job?

This picture has been nominated as Nairaland Property Section picture of the year. The builders in my village that built houses in 1900 cannot even do anything like this.

brabus:


At foundation stage, it was a contract prepared by the owner based on NextHome estimate. The contract stopped at the Sandfilling of the house. All materials after Sandfilling were supplied by the owner. I only took up the role of supervision afterwards up to slab level.


I got disengaged completely from the project at the completion of the slab. There are records.

In simple Turainshi for those of us that dont understand too much Grammar:

1.) Brabus supplied all materials and BUILT the structure FROM SCRATCH, ....through foundation, up to Sand-filling of that foundation.

2.) Owner then began to supply MATERIALS from that stage, while Brabus continue to BUILD the structure .... up to SLAB level.

In other words, Brabus was completely responsible for the CONSTRUCTION of this Building UP TO SLAB/DECKING LEVEL, while owner "supplied materials" from after foundation.


This is the summary of the above, in pidgin English, according to Brabus himself and going by the Video he shot and provided in evidence, here-in.

Thus, that "floating Column" was done by Brabus, since it is between Foundation and Slab...

That much is very obvious and Aventures also pointed this out, in his post quoted below


If l am wrong, Brabus can correct me/us.




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Aventures:

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1. There was a column by the window that left its starter columns reinforcement and sat on the wall, it seems to me that column is critical and it is structurally wrong to have such. This fall within the Job Brabus claim he did/supervised by himself.
Also Brabus claimed that he stopped the entire work at first floor slab level, then the omission of beams and corresponding supporting columns are part of his job. But the upper floor columns that is not in alignment and the poorly casted columns are definitely not his responsibility.

I rest my case.

I also think Brabus should stop calling himself a "Supervisor" simply because the Client asked you not to supply Materials any more or said he would be paying on a Daily basis.

You Brabus, is the BUILDER.

The Builder is a Contractor who "implements and supervises the Construction work" of the building (or is there even any other thing he does, since he does not carry head Pan?).... except he is not on ground and chose to delegate the Supervision (in his absence), to a competent person.

Even at that, you still remain the BUILDER and hence the responsibility for the structural Safety of that Building, still rests with you.

God forbid, if there was a collapse, who do you think will be held responsible....at first instance?

All these your "word-play" is nothing but DECEIT!

Let us call a spade, a spade!


Latstpage!

EgunMogaji:
Okay I see some interpersonal issues going on here and is a personal lesson for me.

Something similar almost occurred on my site but I squashed it pronto. It had to do with water supply. My fault and I took immediate steps to make sure that it will never happen again.

Egun-with correct sight!

Those two statements you boxed, EXPLAINS everything that went on in that site!

But honestly, l hope the Nigerian Builders Guild/Council and other relevant Agencies are not reading this thread otherwise, heads may soon begin to roll!


Lastpage!

All the issue between brabus and maverick lies on professionalism, integrity and mis conduct
If this issue drags on more than necessary brabus definitely has a lot to lose because to me every client matters
Brabus actually picked lots of clients here
This forum is the last place for him to pick a fight.
Looking at the pix, there are obviously errors like the starter columns not corresponding.
There are lots of others potential clients here
He should just stop arguing and sort it out
Client is king

Brabus again? When does this end?

Everyone else seems to have come to the same conclusion that you are responsible until decking phase. Even you have openly admitted such so the pictures that reflect anything until decking are your responsibility. I don't think a client supplying materials should mean he has to suffer for it. Remember this is what led to the end of our relationship when you decided that I could not suplply materials for my own project. We have moved on since then but please don't for once think that I was 1000% happy with what you left behind. I had a a lot of rework to do but chose against pursuing you due to my brothers insistence that I let the matter go.

Not everyone is like him o and I really hope that you don't encounter someone that will take blood from you as a payment for all the incomplete/substandard jobs that your clients seem to get from you.

No one is perfect bro but no one also picks money from tress. You are toying with. People's hard earned dollars/pounds/Nara or whatever currency they earn they pay.

Kindly resolve this amicably with your clients and learn from it

lastpage:
I also think Brabus should stop calling himself a "Supervisor" simply because the Clinet asked you not to supply Materials anymore or said he would be paying on a Daily basis.

You Brabus, is the BUILDER.

The Builder is a Contractor who "implements and supervises the Construction work" of the building (or is there even any other thing he does, since he does not carry head Pan?).... except he is not on ground and chose to delegate the Supervision (in his absence), to a competent person.

Even at that, you still remain the BUILDER and hence the responsibility for the structural Safety of that Building, still rests with you.

God forbid, if there was a collapse, who do you think will be held responsible....at first instance?\
All these "word-play" is nothing but DECEIT!

Let us call a spade, a spade!


Latstpage!

kolnel:
All the issue between brabus and maverick lies on professionalism, integrity and mis conduct
If this issue drags on more than necessary brabus definitely has a lot to lose because to me every client matters
Brabus actually picked lots of clients here
This forum is the last place for him to pick a fight.
Looking at the pix, there are obviously errors like the starter columns not corresponding.
There are lots of others potential clients here
He should just stop arguing and sort it out
Client is king

Thank you.

brag3:
Brabus again? When does this end?

Everyone else seems to have come to the same conclusion that you are responsible until decking phase. Even you have openly admitted such so the pictures that reflect anything until decking are your responsibility. I don't think a client supplying materials should mean he has to suffer for it. Remember this is what led to the end of our relationship when you decided that I could not suplply materials for my own project. We have moved on since then but please don't for once think that I was 1000% happy with what you left behind. I had a a lot of rework to do but chose against pursuing you due to my brothers insistence that I let the matter go.

Not everyone is like him o and I really hope that you don't encounter someone that will take blood from you as a payment for all the incomplete/substandard jobs that your clients seem to get from you.

No one is perfect bro but no one also picks money from tress. You are toying with. People's hard earned dollars/pounds/Nara or whatever currency they earn they pay.

Kindly resolve this amicably with your clients and learn from it

Sir, you should have called my attention to those rework. I'll be glad to fix them at no cost to you.

I never had issues with you supplying the materials. I just said I'm not interested in supervising people I have never met. Remember you told me you're bringing your carpenter.

Bro if not my brother a lot of things will have happened o.

Let's just leave it that. You and I will find it hard to see face to face. That's just a fact. I don't mince words and use too much English.

You know where the breakdown started. When you insisted on charging me for rental of marine boards that I had paid for in the first phase which you did not even use but chose to use wood instead.

Let's not open wounds that are healing. You have too much pon your plate with other clients who don't have trusting siblings like me.

And for the record I never insisted on bring my own iron Bender When did u get this from?
Have u forgotten that you were paid for iron blender and caster for which you duly returned my money when our relationship soured.

Or did you not refund some labour costs to me prior to delivering my iron rods? What were the costs for?

Like I said before let's leave time to heal our wounds

brabus:


Sir, you should have called my attention to those rework. I'll be glad to fix them at no cost to you.

I never had issues with you supplying the materials. I just said I'm not interested in supervising people I have never met. Remember you told me you're bringing your carpenter and iron bender.

Sir Brag3,

My mistake with the iron bender mentioned in my earlier post. I've already edited the post before your reply. I remember I refunded you 200k for the iron bender and 230k for casting about 5 days after you paid into my account.

Sorry about the error.

lastpage:
I also think Brabus should stop calling himself a "Supervisor" simply because the Clinet asked you not to supply Materials anymore or said he would be paying on a Daily basis.

You Brabus, is the BUILDER.

The Builder is a Contractor who "implements and supervises the Construction work" of the building (or is there even any other thing he does, since he does not carry head Pan?).... except he is not on ground and chose to delegate the Supervision (in his absence), to a competent person.

Even at that, you still remain the BUILDER and hence the responsibility for the structural Safety of that Building, still rests with you.

God forbid, if there was a collapse, who do you think will be held responsible....at first instance?\
All these "word-play" is nothing but DECEIT!

Let us call a spade, a spade!


Latstpage!

Oga! Abeg this is for educational purpose and not a rejoinder. I never said I'm not the builder. I am the builder that provided the estimates, the labourers and supervision of the project to the first slab. And for the fact that N150k supervision fee has exchanged hands, I am liable more than the material supplier, the SE (who signed the letter of supervision) and every other people. Interesting!

Part of builders responsibility should include scheduling of workers, trades and delivery of materials, keeping track of expenses, maintaining a clean and safe work site and minimising the inconvenience to the client.

Why I'm saying this is I care to know how one (the builder) schedule workers without having control of timely delivery of materials.

Advice To Brabrus from an Experienced Engineer ( Engr. A.L Onakomaya MNSE, COREN)
Let me start with relationship between Clients and Contractor (Supervisor like You). relationship of one Client goes along way in your reputation. potential clients reading this trend must have lost interest in your name. you need to learn how to move on when there is conflict of interest between you and a client.... the truth is, building Clients can never be 100% satisfied in Building job... is now left for you to score a mark that is satisfactory to the client.

All i see in this trend is Trust issue. The client must have seen some irregularities for deciding to bring in materials himself later. which i am sure you wont like.
but to be candid with you... Choice of client bring material should not be your problem if u av adequately billed your supervision cost to your clients in building stages...
on the issue of brabrus insisting he would like to work with his familiar carpenter, well that is allowed if he thinks his carpenter is only the one that can give him what he wants, but to be honest with you, a good carpenter can work in any project so far he is well guided by the supervising Engineer or Builder..

lastly, interest of Builders like brabrus in every Labor force is what i cant say. if he has cut in every carpentry, masonry, iron bending etc.. brabrus, if u dont av interest in any cut, this project shd be a success..


thanks...
Engr. A.L onakomaya MNSE COREN R28166..

micgray100:
Advice To Brabrus from an Experienced Engineer ( Engr. A.L Onakomaya MNSE, COREN)
Let me start with relationship between Clients and Contractor (Supervisor like You). relationship of one Client goes along way in your reputation. potential clients reading this trend must have lost interest in your name. you need to learn how to move on when there is conflict of interest between you and a client.... the truth is, building Clients can never be 100% satisfied in Building job... is now left for you to score a mark that is satisfactory to the client.

All i see in this trend is Trust issue. The client must have seen some irregularities for deciding to bring in materials himself later. which i am sure you wont like.
but to be candid with you... Choice of client bring material should not be your problem if u av adequately billed your supervision cost to your clients in building stages...
on the issue of brabrus insisting he would like to work with his familiar carpenter, well that is allowed if he thinks his carpenter is only the one that can give him what he wants, but to be honest with you, a good carpenter can work in any project so far he is well guided by the supervising Engineer or Builder..

lastly, interest of Builders like brabrus in every Labor force is what i cant say. if he has cut in every carpentry, masonry, iron bending etc.. brabrus, if u dont av interest in any cut, this project shd be a success..


thanks...
Engr. A.L onakomaya MNSE COREN R28166..

Thank you for this Sir. Points well noted.

Two areas of interest highlighted above.

adequately billed your supervision cost
I'm not interested in supervising projects. I didn't bill for supervision. I gave an estimate to build a house which the client prepared a contract in which responsibility of each parties are clearly stated. A new quote wasn't given for the project so I wouldn't know if I adequately billed for the project or not because all agreements have been waived aside and the payment is pay-as-you-go.

a good carpenter
How do I know one? Is it right on the construction of a major work like the slab that I will do the testing? I've been there before when a client recommend a plumber and electrician to me and they were doing rubbish. If I complain, he (the client) will say its because he didn't allow me to bring my guys.

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The owner of the helical spiral staircase I'm doing presently can attest to this. I've tried 3 carpenters; paid them and had to start all over again because I was trying to satisfy the clients need (SPEED) and my key guys are in Cotonou. When my guys came in, they did the formwork in a day. I knew exactly what I wanted and it's never a trial-and-error thing.

Whether it is in time or labour costs, loss occurs whenever a tool or a skill isn't available when needed. - Brabus

brabus:


a good carpenter
How do I know one? Is it right on the construction of a major work like the slab that I will do the testing? I've been there before when a client recommend a plumber and electrician to me and they were doing rubbish. If I complain, he (the client) will say its because he didn't allow me to bring my guys.

This is a quagmire. It could also be a case where quality of result is blamed on the artisan that the owner brought to site.

So what I did was once I decided to be the GC, was to get ideas of the labor force pay scale. I'm responsible for all materials and the builder can bring his known associates but not at a premium.

At the end of the day builder has his wish, I have my wish and the quality of work is on builder.

EgunMogaji:


This is a quagmire. It could also be a case where quality of result is blamed on the artisan that the owner brought to site.

So what I did was once I decided to be the GC, was to get ideas of the labor force pay scale. I'm responsible for all materials and the builder can bring his known associates but not at a premium.

At the end of the day builder has his wish, I have my wish and the quality of work is on builder.

The ending of the plumber and the electrician story is that I fired the electrician but the plumber the owner won't let go. At the end of all, the plumbing for the whole house was done all over again and the electrical work is intact. Infact, the owner still uses my electrician till date.

#thechateaustory

Sigh... It seems every interesting construction thread nowadays devolves into another "brabus vs clients" argument. 5+ pages now.

nextstep:
Sigh... It seems every interesting construction thread nowadays devolves into another "brabus vs clients" argument. 5+ pages now.

...as if "Brabus" is the only builder on nairaland. But there are always a good lesson to learn from it!

I find brabus to be a vindictive liar and of course this is not the first time, now let me set the records straight.

Brabus was terminated after the decking stage so all the works up to that stage was his responsibility and he was duly paid for it in a supervisory/builder role (who supplied all the workers ??), I have all evidence of payments here and also proof of the confirmation of what role brabus was taking in this project, if he denies this then I will tender all the evidence. What actually happened was that he was arrested and placed in a police cell for a separate fraudulent case at the time, and I didn’t need his services anymore anyway. Would you be dealing with a builder who is in police custody for defrauding someone else? Not my business, but I am just setting the records straight here.


Is he claiming that he didn’t do the German floor ? I have records of conversations and payments towards this stage of work ? So how can he claim not to have done this, same old bullshit?


All the screenshots that Brabus tendered on here were sent to me almost 2 months or so after he was terminated, obviously still hating at the fact that he was terminated, so I wasn’t expecting him to be full of praises for the work that I have managed this far. He would be negative about it, so hence why he was ignored and hence the reason why I posted the message saying don’t worry about the structure (See screenshot and also take note of the date, by this stage I had already finished the penthouse decking).



When he was making that comment, we already reached this stage without him..




What I am pointing out is all the atrocities that he committed whilst the construction was under his watch. You will also notice that I am not complaining about the work that was done after the decking, when I commenced block work after decking by myself, I was already told about all these crap work and atrocities, so my objective was to get a structural engineer in and also begin the correction of his bad work, I am happy to say that 80% of it has been corrected, and things like blocks not being straight can either be corrected by breaking the blocks and relaying it (waste of money) or wait till plastering phase and straighten things out, we mixed strong concrete not mortar to fill up all the concrete pores, of course I would have preferred to have got it right first time instead of patching things. The workers that Bosun brought to my site to do bricklayer didn’t use a plumb and this meant basic bricklayer stuff were incorrectly done or wobbly, why the h*ll would you employ someone and they are this vindictive and wicked !!! Worse of it, I introduced 2 other people to him who he handled their building work, they all have bad things to say as well about brabus, what do you expect ?? Na today



The pipework that he’s showing us here is that of the other side of the building which has no faults, the part where the concrete was being chiseled is that right side of the building when facing it from the street, so don’t try to fool us here and pull a wool over our eyes, certainly not me and trust me this is just the beginning.



As we can see that lack of remorse and consistent arguing and failing to take responsibility, this is the reason why I am compiling my dossier to follow brabus anywhere he goes on NL. The reason why I sent the message about not worrying about the structure is that you will notice that brabus has cut out the screenshot to hide the date, this was done to make it look like I do not care, the truth of the matter is that we had already made so much progress without brabus (best thing to have happened during construction) and I do not want him on my site anymore. The site is gated and hence brabus cannot get in anymore. I will place a screenshot of the chat that he has cut out the date to hide the fact that he was merely looking for faults, thinking that I would hire him back. Let’s put it this way, I would swim through vomit rather than hire you again.


The whole thing about the waste pit/soakaway is a case of election tribunal after legitimate and fair election, we discussed on a number of occasions on where to place the soakaway and how to do it, we agreed on where and how to do it, and simply because I got someone else to do it properly, he’s abviously not happy about that, that was supposed to be a 450k job for him, but NOWAY on this earth would I have given it to him to do. The waste pit was since constructed about 2 months ago now, sealed and its definitely not leaking. There are plans to make some corrections at the back of the building to ensure that the lateral pressure that the soakaway is exerting doesn’t damage the fence. I have this in control.
My concern/aim is not painting anyone black, It would be a travesty if any other innocent person falls into the brabus trap by seeing pictures lifted from the internet and projects doctored to appear as if all is well. Or take advice from someone who isn’t qualified to be on a building site in the capacity of a builder or civil engineer. I mean some of what he says may sound correct , but this is something that anyone who has time to come to NL to learn and someone who has appreciation for building concepts can easily pick up as well. It is a blessing that we have people like Sergcy, Spyder and Adventures on this site, don’t get me wrong nobody is a saint, but the integrity and honesty that these guys have shown leaves me in no doubt that they are men of wisdom that I can work with and ultimately learn from. Would I ever work with Brabus again ? I think my answer which centers on swimming in vomit says it all. I had rather not build anything….




This was all after I took over, did the first floor block work, pent decking and also the paraphet.



This is where we are today.




Lastly, the comment by the engineer above is strictly true, one of the issues that I had after relieving brabus of his position was that we had the following people coming to me saying they were owed money. I had to dismiss anyone with any links to Brabus, as I didn’t want any negative vibes around my site or brabus sending them messages to do a bad job in order to prove a point to me.


• Bricklayer
• Cement seller
• Block seller (from another site as I was supplying my own block)


The conflict of interest that I found was that, brabus would charge me for builder/supervisor and also take a cut from the workers that he was billing their services to me, does it concern me (Yes/No). Yes in the sense that if these guys were not happy or not paid (as I found on numerous occasions), they would not do a good job and even worse if the builder/supervisor is nowhere to be found, in a police cell or plotting to steal the next batch of materials from his van that he parked near my site for the sole purpose of siphoning materials. I mean its standard practice to use plumb when laying blocks to ensure the edges are straight, the atrocities committed by brabus will now mean that my plastering will use about 500 bags of cement (had 3 different bricklayers say the same thing) trying to cover up and make good the concrete bulges/irregularities/terrible jobs as a result of the bad job brabus left me with.


No in the sense that, these workers took on the work from brabus knowing the kind of person he is and he does show his true colour all the time, I also don’t blame these workers as he kept rotating them, so the Ponzi scheme works in a way that when he’s owing batch A some money, he will fire them and bring in batch B, once he racks up enough debts, he will fire them later. With the way I am managing the project myself, reliable supervisor and most importantly God, I ensure that I pay my workers a good wage on time and also know when to commend them, be harsh, read the riot act or ultimately sack them, if you are too nice they will take advantage big time. I see myself as a fair person, you do the job to agreed specification you get paid how much we agreed and if you exceed expectations, then there is a prize for that. Where brabus has done this (not a lot of the time), he was rewarded financially even more than what we agreed.


Now to anyone wailing that this is not the correct medium, I feel we should be each other’s brother’s keeper (Nija isn’t that bad now), If I see something that is bad, I would not say that because brabus gave me good advice I would try to shield him or hide that fact, I feel we owe it as a responsibility for anyone else who decides to embark on a building project, at least be armed with the facts before making decisions on who you give your project to.

Alot of things have gone down here o.. Just yesterday that I missed the thread.. I was still hoping to come here and continue my discussion with Abdulwastecx about not agreeing with his calculations because it was for slab and not for beams etc..

Guess me and Abdul will continue on WhatsApp..

KolaShangOne:
Alot of things have gone down here o.. Just yesterday that I missed the thread.. I was still hoping to come here and continue my discussion with Abdulwastecx about not agreeing with his calculations because it was for slab and not for beams etc..

Guess me and Abdul will continue on WhatsApp..

That'll be a disfavor to us loyal learners.

Please reconsider.

Astute fellows can wade through the muck.

^^^
Oga mavverick, I cannot read the whole epistle above. Sir you can just provide the evidences in bullet format for easy comprehension.

Honestly, it takes time for me to comprehend things.

But I've attached the video and picture of the side you said needs rework sir. I guess it became an issue after I left the project. We didn't chisel the beams.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ymlw-nb_Tw

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How many bags of cement do you plan to use to plaster a 7 unit of 2 bedroom house before? 200 bags, I guess!

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The workers you claimed I fired after using them, are the one working with me at the Beachfront site and the Helical Staircase site. They knew different!!! And they're saying hello from the helical staircase site. See the video below. That's Clement!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwaAcFRc6j8

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What an irony! The work after the decking work are so solid even when all the internal beams carrying the pent slab were omitted. Can we have a clearer picture of the side I just posted its video now.

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Why the negative thoughts? I cut out the screenshot to hide the date, to make it look like you do not care. Does the date matter? Or the information I'm passing across. Anyway for the records, I crop the picture to hide your details. I didn't save your name as "nagging client" or "badt boy" Does that clear that part?

brabus:
^^^
Oga mavverick, I cannot read the whole epistle above. Sir you can just provide the evidences in bullet format for easy comprehension.

Honestly, it takes time for me to comprehend things.

But I've attached the video and picture of the side you said needs rework sir. I guess it became an issue after I left the project. We didn't chisel the beams.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ymlw-nb_Tw

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How many bags of cement do you plan to use to plaster a 7 unit of 2 bedroom house before? 200 bags, I guess!

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The workers you claimed I fired are the one working with me at the Beachfront site and the Helical Staircase site. They knew different!!!

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What an irony! The work after the decking work are so solid even when all the internal beams carrying the pent slab were omitted. Can we have a clearer picture of the side I just posted its video now.

I don't hide facts, whether you have time to read or not is either here nor there.
whatever you choose to do with your workers, same ones, new ones. Not my cup of tea. In fact I dont care about what you are working on, I am only concerned about my own experience and making sure others are well informed.
And of course, you are blind not to see the other allegations to defend yourself right. By the way, I am still waiting for a refund for the fake/forged building plan approval and the 420k which you took for this....

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All myths will be bursted.

KolaShangOne:
Alot of things have gone down here o.. Just yesterday that I missed the thread.. I was still hoping to come here and continue my discussion with Abdulwastecx about not agreeing with his calculations because it was for slab and not for beams etc..

Guess me and Abdul will continue on WhatsApp..

Oga Kola, don't ever leave here. I'm not leaving here either. Forget all the side attractions. I don Appeal tire!

Let's roll on. I don't mean disrespect. Pls, I assure nothing will come up after this. I guess all the aces have been used up already.

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Oga mavverick, these people are worked up already. It's no longer fun as expected. Let's take this thing to the private (Whatsapp). Don't let anyone organise pity party for us! You've made your points already. Brabus is fraudulent.

I'm your friend!

Brabus.

I am sure I have repeated this time and time again, I DO NOT HATE YOU, AND THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY GOING ON HERE...
I am just telling my story that's all, If I see you on the street today I will still greet you and I would expect thesame, no shaking.
I have already tried to reconcile with you on Whatsapp and on telephone to no avail, you seem to be posting me all the time and I dont have time for that avenue anymore, and judging from your response you clearly believe you are not in the wrong and would not accept any liability, did I come to meet you for payment to cover the fixes for the bad job ?? Na me engage you in the first place now !!

mavverick:
I find brabus to be a vindictive liar and of course this is not the first time, now let me set the records straight.

Brabus was terminated after the decking stage so all the works up to that stage was his responsibility and he was duly paid for it in a supervisory/builder role (who supplied all the workers ??), I have all evidence of payments here and also proof of the confirmation of what role brabus was taking in this project, if he denies this then I will tender all the evidence. What actually happened was that he was arrested and placed in a police cell for a separate fraudulent case at the time, and I didn’t need his services anymore anyway. Would you be dealing with a builder who is in police custody for defrauding someone else? Not my business, but I am just setting the records straight here.


Is he claiming that he didn’t do the German floor ? I have records of conversations and payments towards this stage of work ? So how can he claim not to have done this, same old bullshit?


All the screenshots that Brabus tendered on here were sent to me almost 2 months or so after he was terminated, obviously still hating at the fact that he was terminated, so I wasn’t expecting him to be full of praises for the work that I have managed this far. He would be negative about it, so hence why he was ignored and hence the reason why I posted the message saying don’t worry about the structure (See screenshot and also take note of the date, by this stage I had already finished the penthouse decking).



When he was making that comment, we already reached this stage without him..




What I am pointing out is all the atrocities that he committed whilst the construction was under his watch. You will also notice that I am not complaining about the work that was done after the decking, when I commenced block work after decking by myself, I was already told about all these crap work and atrocities, so my objective was to get a structural engineer in and also begin the correction of his bad work, I am happy to say that 80% of it has been corrected, and things like blocks not being straight can either be corrected by breaking the blocks and relaying it (waste of money) or wait till plastering phase and straighten things out, we mixed strong concrete not mortar to fill up all the concrete pores, of course I would have preferred to have got it right first time instead of patching things. The workers that Bosun brought to my site to do bricklayer didn’t use a plumb and this meant basic bricklayer stuff were incorrectly done or wobbly, why the h*ll would you employ someone and they are this vindictive and wicked !!! Worse of it, I introduced 2 other people to him who he handled their building work, they all have bad things to say as well about brabus, what do you expect ?? Na today



The pipework that he’s showing us here is that of the other side of the building which has no faults, the part where the concrete was being chiseled is that right side of the building when facing it from the street, so don’t try to fool us here and pull a wool over our eyes, certainly not me and trust me this is just the beginning.



As we can see that lack of remorse and consistent arguing and failing to take responsibility, this is the reason why I am compiling my dossier to follow brabus anywhere he goes on NL. The reason why I sent the message about not worrying about the structure is that you will notice that brabus has cut out the screenshot to hide the date, this was done to make it look like I do not care, the truth of the matter is that we had already made so much progress without brabus (best thing to have happened during construction) and I do not want him on my site anymore. The site is gated and hence brabus cannot get in anymore. I will place a screenshot of the chat that he has cut out the date to hide the fact that he was merely looking for faults, thinking that I would hire him back. Let’s put it this way, I would swim through vomit rather than hire you again.


The whole thing about the waste pit/soakaway is a case of election tribunal after legitimate and fair election, we discussed on a number of occasions on where to place the soakaway and how to do it, we agreed on where and how to do it, and simply because I got someone else to do it properly, he’s abviously not happy about that, that was supposed to be a 450k job for him, but NOWAY on this earth would I have given it to him to do. The waste pit was since constructed about 2 months ago now, sealed and its definitely not leaking. There are plans to make some corrections at the back of the building to ensure that the lateral pressure that the soakaway is exerting doesn’t damage the fence. I have this in control.
My concern/aim is not painting anyone black, It would be a travesty if any other innocent person falls into the brabus trap by seeing pictures lifted from the internet and projects doctored to appear as if all is well. Or take advice from someone who isn’t qualified to be on a building site in the capacity of a builder or civil engineer. I mean some of what he says may sound correct , but this is something that anyone who has time to come to NL to learn and someone who has appreciation for building concepts can easily pick up as well. It is a blessing that we have people like Sergcy, Spyder and Adventures on this site, don’t get me wrong nobody is a saint, but the integrity and honesty that these guys have shown leaves me in no doubt that they are men of wisdom that I can work with and ultimately learn from. Would I ever work with Brabus again ? I think my answer which centers on swimming in vomit says it all. I had rather not build anything….




This was all after I took over, did the first floor block work, pent decking and also the paraphet.



This is where we are today.




Lastly, the comment by the engineer above is strictly true, one of the issues that I had after relieving brabus of his position was that we had the following people coming to me saying they were owed money. I had to dismiss anyone with any links to Brabus, as I didn’t want any negative vibes around my site or brabus sending them messages to do a bad job in order to prove a point to me.


• Bricklayer
• Cement seller
• Block seller (from another site as I was supplying my own block)


The conflict of interest that I found was that, brabus would charge me for builder/supervisor and also take a cut from the workers that he was billing their services to me, does it concern me (Yes/No). Yes in the sense that if these guys were not happy or not paid (as I found on numerous occasions), they would not do a good job and even worse if the builder/supervisor is nowhere to be found, in a police cell or plotting to steal the next batch of materials from his van that he parked near my site for the sole purpose of siphoning materials. I mean its standard practice to use plumb when laying blocks to ensure the edges are straight, the atrocities committed by brabus will now mean that my plastering will use about 500 bags of cement (had 3 different bricklayers say the same thing) trying to cover up and make good the concrete bulges/irregularities/terrible jobs as a result of the bad job brabus left me with.


No in the sense that, these workers took on the work from brabus knowing the kind of person he is and he does show his true colour all the time, I also don’t blame these workers as he kept rotating them, so the Ponzi scheme works in a way that when he’s owing batch A some money, he will fire them and bring in batch B, once he racks up enough debts, he will fire them later. With the way I am managing the project myself, reliable supervisor and most importantly God, I ensure that I pay my workers a good wage on time and also know when to commend them, be harsh, read the riot act or ultimately sack them, if you are too nice they will take advantage big time. I see myself as a fair person, you do the job to agreed specification you get paid how much we agreed and if you exceed expectations, then there is a prize for that. Where brabus has done this (not a lot of the time), he was rewarded financially even more than what we agreed.


Now to anyone wailing that this is not the correct medium, I feel we should be each other’s brother’s keeper (Nija isn’t that bad now), If I see something that is bad, I would not say that because brabus gave me good advice I would try to shield him or hide that fact, I feel we owe it as a responsibility for anyone else who decides to embark on a building project, at least be armed with the facts before making decisions on who you give your project to.

Hmnn

Oga mavverick, you treated this case like someone who's doesn't know how to woo a lady. I know the wound will heal with time. Everyone gets hurt in the process.

I'm just resilient otherwise I'd have given up. But again, I'm sorry!!!

KolaShangOne:
Alot of things have gone down here o.. Just yesterday that I missed the thread.. I was still hoping to come here and continue my discussion with Abdulwastecx about not agreeing with his calculations because it was for slab and not for beams etc..

Guess me and Abdul will continue on WhatsApp..

The calculation is for slab design load but this load will automatically be distributed to the adjoining beams using yield line or any other convenient method.

Other dead load that may also be on the beam are wall load (which can also be reduce using lighter material for partitions ) and beam self weight ( since it depends on the beam section, a smaller section means lower Beam self weight)