brabus:
Oga mavverick, you treated this case like someone who's doesn't know how to woo a lady. I know the wound will heal with time. Everyone gets hurt in the process.

I'm just resilient otherwise I'd have given up. But again, I'm sorry!!!

brabus:


Oga Kola, don't ever leave here. I'm not leaving here either. Forget all the side attractions. I don Appeal tire!

Let's roll on. I don't mean disrespect. Pls, I assure nothing will come up after this. I guess all the aces have been used up already.

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Oga mavverick, these people are worked up already. It's no longer fun as expected. Let's take this thing to the private (Whatsapp). Don't let anyone organise pity party for us! You've made your points already. Brabus is fraudulent.

I'm your friend!

abdulwastecx:


The calculation is for slab design load but this load will automatically be distributed to the adjoining beams using yield line or any other convenient method.

Other dead load that may also be on the beam are wall load (which can also be reduce using lighter material for partitions ) and beam self weight ( since it depends on the beam section, a smaller section means lower Beam self weight)

KolaShangOne:


You just talked about my concern in the second paragraph.. "Other dead loads".
Oyibo people design for worst possible scenarios. There was a high rise building which was bombed but the structure didn't collapse though a part of it was wiped off from top down.

You demonstrated that it would work for a residential but sometimes these buildings are converted to commercial property which it wasn't defined for. You understand my point Mr Wasiu?

mavverick:


Will I be refunded for the fake/forged building approval to which you collected 420k from me? Yes or No ?

lastpage:


Could this actually be true?

I am sure "trained and certified" Engineers reading this thread would agree with me that "Forging Stamps and Signature" of Certified Engineers and "forging Building Approvals Stamps" ............is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE WHICH INCURS JAIL-TIME under our statutes and l want yo beg you not to make such allegations on anyone, if you are not 100% sure of what you are saying and have PROOF to back it up.

You dont expect us to just believe your word as truth .... without any evidence been provided to back it up.
There is a thin line between "slander" and "impersonation + Forgery"

Like Brabus said, "EVIDENCE".......... or #Addonbelieveit!

Lastpage!

mavverick:
Trust me it's 100% true.

I am giving brabus the opportunity to make amends fist which he has refused to take.

The lagos state official who is also involved is going to be dealt with as well. Like I said, I like to play my cards close to my chest. All I will say is that brabus and Seun who is the lagos state official, just watch and you will see.

EgunMogaji:


I could have sworn that I read this same allegation previously but I forgot the dissolution.

lastpage:


Allegation!

It remains just that, ...until proved otherwise.


To me, "Character and Good Name" is everything so when l see this sort of "allegation" of brazen criminality being made against someone, alarm bells begin to ring in my head!

As an academic with Two Masters degree and an MBA, l know and appreciate what it takes to be a "certified professional" in your chosen field and issues bordering on "impersonation, intellectual theft, forgery and misrepresentation" dont cut it with me at all.

You are either in ...or you are out!

Moreso, l am also not unaware of the "life and death" implications of a "faked certification and approval", ......using a dodgy, impersonated and forged stamp of approval, if that were to be the case!

Good thing is Brabus has denied it.


Lastpage!

brabus:


Oga! Abeg this is for educational purpose and not a rejoinder. I never said I'm not the builder. I am the builder that provided the estimates, the labourers and supervision of the project to the first slab. And for the fact that N150k supervision fee has exchanged hands, I am liable more than the material supplier, the SE (who signed the letter of supervision) and every other people. Interesting!

Part of builders responsibility should include scheduling of workers, trades and delivery of materials, keeping track of expenses, maintaining a clean and safe work site and minimising the inconvenience to the client.

Why I'm saying this is I care to know how one (the builder) schedule workers without having control of timely delivery of materials.

FastShipping:
@brabus,

Who built the house from foundation level to deking stage?
At what stage your service was engaged and at what stage your service was no more needed?

Brabus: At foundation stage, it was a contract prepared by the owner based on NextHome estimate. The contract stopped at the Sandfilling of the house. All materials after Sandfilling were supplied by the owner. I only took up the role of supervision afterwards up to slab level.


I got disengaged completely from the project at the completion of the slab. There are records.

EgunMogaji:


I hear you loud and clear.

Heres the thing. Brabus seems polished and I think as a corporate entity he'll have a Barrister at the ready to defend a slander, or is it libel? (Sorry I don't have a double PhD )

And Mavverick (just love that name - Maverick - from Top Gun - I have a need to leave the city) if he's well heeled enough to afford to build this elaborate commercial structure w[b]ill also have the means to either man a defense or actually a direct legal assault to collect his owed funds[/b] instead of using a side melee like this.

So the truth lies in between there somewhere.

I just know that if someone owes me N500k I won't be online only but be in a lawsuit with collection activities.

Maybe I'm just daydreaming and Nigeria doesn't work that way. Seems everybody wants to educate me on how Nigeria works at each and every opportunity

EgunMogaji:


I hear you loud and clear.

Heres the thing. Brabus seems polished and I think as a corporate entity he'll have a Barrister at the ready to defend a slander, or is it libel? (Sorry I don't have a double PhD )

And Mavverick (just love that name - Maverick - from Top Gun - I have a need to leave the city) if he's well heeled enough to afford to build this elaborate commercial structure will also have the means to either man a defense or actually a direct legal assault to collect his owed funds instead of using a side melee like this.

So the truth lies in between there somewhere.

I just know that if someone owes me N500k I won't be online only but be in a lawsuit with collection activities.

Maybe I'm just daydreaming and Nigeria doesn't work that way. Seems everybody wants to educate me on how Nigeria works at each and every opportunity

brabus:


It is called defamation. All I need is just to print out all the words used to describe me on here. It doesn't matter what transpired because Nairaland is not a law court.

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The winner is not always the one with a loud mouth but a big brain. I carefully choose my words.

lastpage:


I trust people ( as a presumption) .... but l believe Evidence (decision-making).

"Everyone, including Brabus, is presumed innocent of any allegation.... until proved (evidence) otherwise".

Fingers Crossed.

Marpol:
What's the best wood to use for kitchen cabinet?

brabus:
Your own words:



Henceforth, I decline further comments on any matters or allegations against me (Brabus or NextHome) until they're proven true.

Lies will have gotten half the world before truth gets to wear it's pant.

Brabus: It is called defamation. All I need is just to print out all the words used to describe me on here. It doesn't matter what transpired because Nairaland is not a law court.

Beulah09:
Nigerians are funny people. You employ a computer scientist as your 'builder' and you are complaining of 'poor' work! Why did you not employ professionals?

Brabus, 'packaging' can only get you thus far! Get appropriate training in a field that you have passion for! Or stay as a 'project manager'. In which case you employ 'competent' people to work for you. The depth of your knowledge is evident but people get swayed by your presentation skills. You are already acquiring a reputation which is totally avoidable.

Maverick, changing the mode of Contract mid way is not advisable. You cannot go for a seemingly lumpsum contract to one that becomes reimbursible to one that now becomes supervision.

My suggestion is that for the carcass, go for a lumpsum Contract. You agree on design and the cost. You have milestones payment. As the client you are not bothered on how the builder organises his workforce. Your focus is on the product delivery in terms of standards and quality. Of course you are bothered about Safety. Develop your own estimate when arriving on the lumpsum to ensure that you get a good deal

mavverick:


Beulah09

Thanks for your contribution.

Just for the avoidance of doubt, I started having issues with Brabus when it came to the filling of the foundation, telling me lies and also defrauding me in terms of the number of sand trips he claimed to have dropped, so someone who drops 5 and says 10. Would you carry on with such a person under any kind of contract ?

To minimize my losses, I had to take some form of control since he cannot be trusted with money and was only out to cheat me ?
Workers not turning up because he didn't pay them ? would you still carry on operating the old way ?
Materials missing on site and being loaded onto a parked van ? Would you still carry on ?
Security guard being offered bribes to allow the stealing of materials or inform me of the wrong quantity in the store, would you still carry on with such an arrangement ?

The guy knows what he did now, so I guess that's the reason for the silence, and of course I would not let him get away with it.

EgunMogaji:


Why haven't you sued NextHome for breach of contract and/or fraud?

Just curious.

At the rate of all these allegations there would probably be a class action lawsuit already here both criminal and civil.

mavverick:


Bros

I am guessing you are not based in Nija, if you were you will understand why you dont take such matters to court, well not in this particular case sha.
I don't believe in the courts, besides one would be wasting his/her time as per suing.

podosci:
We can seriously plan towards a nairaland property section conference to foister a good relationship between us all and facilitate aggressive action towards scammers on property section.

EgunMogaji:


System here works well.

I've never read a bad review on Skimanski, Aventures, Spyder880, KolaShangOne or AbdulWastecx.

Clients owe the part of also doing due diligence.

podosci:
We can seriously plan towards a nairaland property section conference to foister a good relationship between us all and facilitate aggressive action towards scammers on property section.

mavverick:


Will I be refunded for the fake/forged building approval to which you collected 420k from me ? Yes or No ?