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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Tolakay: 7:28pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Kindly advise with type of economical roofing sheet... Went to price various types here in Ib but considering ma budget embossed roofing sheet wch cost 19k/bundle is wot i can avoid. Is the embossed roofing sheet of good qlty? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 8:10pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
mavverick: EgunMogaji: @Egungun! First, this is where l have a problem with we Nigerians! We allow rubbish to rub us in the face and then we #Wail all day andnight, thinking God or someone else will come and clear the shyte! ![]() ![]() We dont act when we are supposed to, even when it is in our own interest! ![]() Agreed that the court system is slow, corrupt and sometimes expensive but we also have other institutions like the EFCC which deals with financial crimes! We have the "Fraud Unit" at Milverton Road, Ikoyi, which deals with cases of 'grand' Fraud, and many more! If all that did not work, and someone "ate my money" and gave me a forged document, Walahi. l will lock him up in the military barracks until he pays every dime back and signs an undertaking to be of good behaviour! it is because of the "external mad man", that we also maintain a "mad man within the compound"! ![]() ![]() @Maverick Now, how can you make a very serious allegation of "grand criminality" against someone, in a public forum, bearing in mind that even that building that is concerned in the allegation, may produce "stability issues" in future (God forbid sha) and is therefore considered an "on-going matter" as far as investigation is concerned (that is statute of limitation does not apply here!)...... ....and then you are still talking about being "our brother's keeper"? If l assume your allegations are true, just for discussion purposes (big emphasis on "assumption), what manner of "Brother's keeper" endangers the life of his "Brother and family members", by building a "sub-standard and structurally deficient house" for them.... all because of greed and profiteering? Brabus has DENIED your accusations flat-out and your "evidence" so far, are still "arguable and circumstantial"! [color=#990000]You cant eat your cake and have it and all these "Brotherly sentiments" should have been considered before you air this matter. If you think he is your Brother, then you have to just forget the matter and never mention it again ... since he vehemently denies it.[/color] You cant be 'drawing back' in prosecuting him and at the same time continue to accuse him! both are mutually exclusive and which you decide upon, is your choice but you cant maintain both sides ![]() ![]() On the other hand, if l again assume, (ASSUMPTION please!) for discussion purposes, that your allegation is false, what it means is that you are tarnishing the image of a young man, in the public domain. His Children's children will read all these "negative post" about him, especially in this "digital age" where nothing is lost or forgotten. Even in the "court of public opinion", since you have not shown that document where he forged the stamp of a certified Engineer (apart from verbally accusing him) thereby committing forgery, a criminal offence!... he still stands innocent to a large extent. Finally, you are here saying you dont want him to defraud others yet you are not helping matters because since you are bent on playing the "brotherly Angle", we might as well assume that your accusations are also "Brotherly Accusations" and not worth any serious attention! ![]() How are you helping others in making an "informed decision" whether to engage him or not, when yo shy away from doing the right thing? It's like when someone who counterfeits baby food or medicine is caught. Instead of prosecuting him to the full extent of the law, you the accuser is now the same person begging on his behalf that he should be pardoned! How then would others not follow suit and how then would other children not be killed as a result of such actions of the criminal? Anyone who covers-up a criminal or crime, is as much as guilty of the crime, as the criminal. I am yet to see how your "actions/non-actions" is helping anyone not to fall victim, as you claim! Mind you, l am not against "settlement of dispute" but that only comes up if the accused accepts guilt, repents and makes restitution. There is one of our proverbs that says "When an offender knows and accepts his guilt, he does not spend much time kneeling down, begging"! If the issue is,... and remains a "Brotherly affair" then it should be moved to the Romance/Family section where family issues are treated! ![]() ![]() Nuff Said. Lastpage! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 8:19pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
He has not denied anything. Did he answer all the questions asked ? Did he claim not to do then bad work ? As per the forged documents, like I said I'm going to deal with the situation and also tender all the facts here also. Brotherly keeper, I think you misunderstood my point. All I am saying here is how can this medium be cleaned up of fraudsters and how can we prevent a repeat. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:40pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
mavverick: By posting a court judgement and/or order. It will remove any ambiguity. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 9:25pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: ...And making an "example or scape Goat" of anyone who does criminal things BTW: He never accepted Liability => denied it. ![]() Because he did nit deny, does not mean he accepted Liability. He is a cunning Fox! ![]() ![]() Lastpage! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 9:38pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Tolakay: In situation like this, I advice people on what should be quality upfront. Roof is not something you want to revisit after 2 or 5 years, the cost of pulling off the roof and carrying out repairs that time will be thrice what you should have spent to get a quality material. I'll rather prefer you use Nigerite roofing than those cheap roofs. Most of the places I've seen them, they seem to have rust and fade faster than any other types of roof. Also, they're lighter gauge aluminum which is highly susceptible to leakage at nail points. But if that's what you can afford for now, get a good installer to help you fix and seal up all the nail points. I hope this helps. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:41pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
brabus: I agree with this, roof and foundation are areas of no compromise. May God, and hard work, give us the wallet to buy what is proper. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by befto: 9:47pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Brabus is a real cunning fox no be small. I know his type. If I remember vaguely he had a similar issue with Brag3 where he tendered some fake documents (architectural drawings) which had fake seals and stamps from people claiming to be certified architects and engineers. https://www.nairaland.com/1588017/nexthome-builders-2014-2015-new/33 I don't know how it was resolved. maybe Sir Brag3 can fill us in. Sir Brag3 uploaded all the documents and all Brabus could do was dance around as usual and make excuses. @Maverick, you need to put all the documents here for us to see and shame this guy. Maybe others misunderstood your comment about being your brother's keeper but I got it and your actions and those of others to shame this criminal will help protect other unsuspecting clients. This guys has gone way too far. Sir Brag3 help us please as you seem to have experienced the same thing. lastpage: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Xzevian(m): 9:59pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
My humble advice for both of you is that you should let it slide as both of you have nothing to gain out of this except open old wound on your heart. One thing is to forgive and another is to forget but be what it may be, you should both learnt how to move forward without throwing jabs at each other. It is only God that can judge accordingly. To all my ogas in the house, your last born is appealing to you all as a matter of urgent to call on both side to shed their swords for peace to reign. sorry for the little boy advice ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:09pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: Talking those things that should be quality upfront. Here are my list in no particular order. 1. Land (Flat and Dry). 2. Foundation 3. Roof 4. Floor tiles. (The best money can buy in guest areas and something durable in other rooms) 5. Windows (@adeekiti, tell us more) 6. Plumbing (especially when it is conduit). 7. Electrical Wires/Fittings (Nigerian Wire and quality sockets and switches). There are some sockets that can actually embarrass or cause disaster in our homes. 8. Kitchen Cabinet (The best money can get) 9. Compound Flooring. 10. Gate |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:13pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
brabus: I disagree with you completely on number 1 but na my amerilondoner side dey talk ![]() Nothing would please me more than to have a lot on a hilly terrain that offers views and has a gentle stream running through it.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:21pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: I'm sure basement is your thing. That's the reason. Those nice-to-have water features are now on my dream list. I gave it a trial and I realize it's drains money like nothing else. But here's what I'm settling for; proposed Chateau de Brabus II on flat and dry, 2 acres of land with tree-lined driveway. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:27pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
@egunmogaji, ![]() ![]() ![]() Nice one up there! 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dieumerci(m): 10:29pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Pls who knows the current price per squared meters for Aluminium longspan and metcoppo roofing sheets. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 10:32pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Dieumerci: What gauge? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:34pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Oga Egunmogaji, Before the panel resume hearings, let's have some fun! Rear side of Chateau de Brabus II 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:40pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
brabus: I'm part and parcel of the hearing ![]() You wrote something in 2012 or 2013 about a Boss who had a monstrous house with unused rooms. How do you intend to use this immense edifice? Perhaps a showcase to your customers? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:41pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: Packaging!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.world-architects.com/en/pages/architects-house-themselves |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:41pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Mr Brabus, talking about Aluminium windows, there are different Aluminium profile which has different prices, we have imported Aluminium, tower Eco and tower standard which is expensive than others, you can have your windows either sliding or swing, since imported profiles now comes in good and quality product ,people now opt for it as well. Its just that swing windows allows a lot of ventilation than the sliding windows as ventilation comes from one side leaving the other side shut.. brabus: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 10:48pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Dieumerci:Some company can sell 0.45mm Longspan @#1,150psqm,#1,050, #1,100 but for metcoppo is expensive than Longspan, their prices depends on companies producing them and their some that fades off quickly.. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 10:52pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
adeekiti: For me, I don't like swing windows a bit. I prefer sliding windows. I like sliding windows that can be opened on both the left and right sides. About aluminium profile, I hardly see big profiles used in Nigeria. By the way, which imported aluminium profile is the best in the market? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:55pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
FastShipping: Big Profile is my thing. Some people are just too ordinary. And if we talk too much it is "packaging" Why must all houses do "anko" "egbejoda". The same design everywhere. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 10:59pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
brabus: I hate to have what others have. I go extra miles to have my things different from others. All the people who know me can testify to this. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dieumerci(m): 11:00pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Dieumerci: FastShipping:Thanks sir. 0.45 gauge from Tower or First Aluminium in Lagos. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:02pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
They come in differnt guage , there is light and thick imported, the thick imported has same quality as the tower Eco, just a little price difference but the most expensive is the tower standard. The swing windows allow u to open both sides for enough ventilations while the sliding will only leave u with one side locked, the sliding windows are lesser than the swing windows. The imported materials are gaining strength in the market that's why u see them almost everywhere FastShipping: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 11:04pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
Dieumerci: 0.45mm for long span is between 1,050-1,200 naira 0.45mm Metcoppo is 1400-1500 naira. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:05pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
FastShipping: Can you share examples of big and not big profiles? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 11:09pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: Below are big profiles. Not so big profiles are what you see almost everyday in property section.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 11:10pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
adeekiti: Oga adeekiti, I don't have too many jobs o but I have jobs that will make clients say "WOW" on spot. I've just stepped up from traditional Window designs now to something classy. If you can give me any of this designs, trust me we go fit sing collabo. Don't worry about people who will say "Wetin he wan sing wey we neva hear" _______ The truth is I'm shopping for new guys now and the business model has changed "Each man now bears his cross." No Jesus to die for the sin of the world again. So do I at the moment. If there's a job, you'll bid as a subcontractor through NextHome, if you're successful, the client deal with you directly. And if God has led you to bless our ministry, we will gladly accept your offering. But the bottomline, you must be able to deliver jobs satisfactorily and timely to specification, to be a part of this. If you game, we will discuss further on this. _______ Frameless glass windows and partitions.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 11:14pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
@adeekiti, Do you do big profiles? Pls take note, my clients have Champagne-taste on a Lacasera-budget o. Creativity helps us most of the time. It doesn't have to be overly expensive. It just need to be clean and appealing. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 11:15pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
brabus: Are those pictures not of an hotel somewhere in Badagry? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 11:17pm On Oct 27, 2015 |
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