daretodiffer:


I am going to continue disagreeing with you. Some people are making you paranoid. There are many good and bad marital stories. When a man start to think of himself as the only important being or the only one putting his life on hold, he is bound to have a poor family life.

Another issue is the law, people interpret the law out of ignorance. If both spouses purchase properties jointly, it will be divided into two. If you are working and she is not ot working less because of the family, she will be entitled to a part of the property you purchase because marriage is seen as a joint venture (she is working to take care if the family while you are working to provide the finance. It will be assumed that if she were working she would have her own financial contribitions to the family). If you think you might have a problem after marriage, make sure your wife works, AGREE with the way you will share the family responsibilities. Find a way to keep all evidences or have a formal written agreement.

As per child support, don't let anyone deceive you, it doesn't matter whether you are xohbaiting or not, married or not, divorced or not, with or withoyt formal agreement, the court can still and will order you to pay what it seems necessary. There is no escape. Don't let anyone fool you.



Don't forget that although I am a lady, we schooled in the same Nigeria thefore there is virtually no hassles that you went through that my parents or I didn't go through. You don't have to make it seem like you are doing any body a favour. If you don't want to stress yourself, don't have kids (marriage is nothing), your woman will have no reason to stay at home while you work your life away and you won't be forced to pay any maintenance fee.

I'm not trying to convince you to agree with me, I never said I'm afraid of child support ( real men know it's their responsibility to take care of his children ) it's just that some bitter bitchhh will take you to court and may God help you let the judge not be a female you would be exclusively and spontaneously fvcked!, haven't you heard where men are jailed for not paying $10,000 for "monthly " child support of a child who's barely 3years old ?! what and how in the fvck us a healthy baby going to need such amount? you might say it's relative to the father's salary.
There's a big difference between being paranoid and applying CALCULATED RISK, the current mentality, situations and occurrence have made it clear for wise guys to act and coordinate carefully in everything especially in the issue of marriage. About where you were typing about women sharing properties with their husbands after divorce its only a situation that prenuptial agreement plays in. I've seen where a man's house and car was awarded to the bitchh assz wife after divorce and these are properties he had before marriage, the lady sold her car sometime ago before the divorce please don't get me started on this because I've seen and WITNESSED a lot of things that some men went, go and are going through in the name of the scam titled MARRIAGE. Too many awful, mind bugging stories. Make sure you and your wife agree on who pays so bills and that bills? that's when the going is good, what of when it turns sour?! may I remind you that every woman becomes a blood thirsty, vengeful, cunning, scandalous, vicious devil out to frustrate her victim (husband ) when things don't go their way? haven't you had about a woman scorned.... I can reasonably counter you anyway with examples ( with e.g if it's worth it ). Believe me as much as you would like to paint rainbows and beautiful cloudy sky the bitter truth can't be hidden my dear.

GoodFaith:

"The issue revolves around the hamfisted approach that the government places on Fathers who might miss their payments due to job loss, etc "
As soon as you are having job problem go back to court asap
If you are working less hours go back to court asap
Lot of people sit back

You're absolutely right, some sit back and some get outsmarted by devils in human form.

Imagine living out of state and not getting served court papers but the courts get notification that the papers were served and therefore getting default judgement?

daretodiffer:


You will still have the same legal issues with gay/lesbian marriage

You are welcome

please please don't bring the gay /lesbians shitt up here please its just irritating.

icedbeatz:
I agree with you and by God protect me from such I mean from falling in love to the extent of going to the alter with the wrong person (I.e even if I'll do so) yeah we can be forewarned and armed but Bro if you do the mistake of falling for the pretentious acts of one of this Hollywood/nollywood actresses that are everywhere you will pay dearly for it.
BTW prenup is not holding much water nowadays, some bitchh asked a judge to void it on some crappy reasons and they did and messed the husband up. These bitxhess are using the same law as a weapon against the males Bro. GentleToks have typed it all bro, gay marriage?!? don't even say that I rather marry a bitchh or adopt and live as a bachelor. The blueprint is in the processing, prenup is very good and I've had that in mind until the day I read how it was tossed Bro true story. babymama and surrogacy seems to be the best play.

To catch a "monkey", you not only need to act like a monkey but one needs to be smarter than the monkey!

Bottom-line is "Love is no longer blind" ... except you chose to be "blinded by Love"!
Cunny-man die... ... Cunny-man bury-am!



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icedbeatz:
I'm not trying to convince you to agree with me, I never said I'm afraid of child support ( real men know it's their responsibility to take care of his children ) it's just that some bitter bitchhh will take you to court and may God help you let the judge not be a female you would be exclusively and spontaneously fvcked!, haven't you heard where men are jailed for not paying $10,000 for "monthly " child support of a child who's barely 3years old ?! what and how in the fvck us a healthy baby going to need such amount? you might say it's relative to the father's salary.
There's a big difference between being paranoid and applying CALCULATED RISK, the current mentality, situations and occurrence have made it clear for wise guys to act and coordinate carefully in everything especially in the issue of marriage. About where you were typing about women sharing properties with their husbands after divorce its only a situation that prenuptial agreement plays in. I've seen where a man's house and car was awarded to the bitchh assz wife after divorce and these are properties he had before marriage, the lady sold her car sometime ago before the divorce please don't get me started on this because I've seen and WITNESSED a lot of things that some men went, go and are going through in the name of the scam titled MARRIAGE. Too many awful, mind bugging stories. Make sure you and your wife agree on who pays so bills and that bills? that's when the going is good, what of when it turns sour?! may I remind you that every woman becomes a blood thirsty, vengeful, cunning, scandalous, vicious devil out to frustrate her victim (husband ) when things don't go their way? haven't you had about a woman scorned.... I can reasonably counter you anyway with examples ( with e.g if it's worth it ). Believe me as much as you would like to paint rainbows and beautiful cloudy sky the bitter truth can't be hidden my dear.

Don't worry, deadbeat Dads is a common whip used by feminists

Please continue your postings, hopefully young uns will realize the bait that's out there from some of these scandalous women.

I couldn't disagree with anything that you posted.

daretodiffer:
Enough about Nigerian women living outside Nigeria. Personally, the more I know about Nigerian men(not all Nigerian men,), the more I shrink at the thought of ending with one

Please don't marry a Nigerian man
Nigerian men don't want you
keep stepping

EgunMogaji:


You're absolutely right, some sit back and some get outsmarted by devils in human form.

Imagine living out of state and not getting served court papers but the courts get notification that the papers were served and therefore getting default judgement?

Dude you need to update your address with the court
Life is not fair
The bitch want you down
a war is a war

EgunMogaji:


You're absolutely right, some sit back and some get outsmarted by devils in human form.

Imagine living out of state and not getting served court papers but the courts get notification that the papers were served and therefore getting default judgement?

we need to thank God for giving many men the fortitude to bear such crazy things without going mad though some end up murdering the bitchh.

icedbeatz:
we need to thank God for giving many men the fortitude to bear such crazy things without going mad though some end up murdering the bitchh.

Getting mad will not help you
that is what the woman want
Trying to walk your way back up is the key
Victory is good
On her face

icedbeatz:
I'm not trying to convince you to agree with me, I never said I'm afraid of child support ( real men know it's their responsibility to take care of his children ) it's just that some bitter bitchhh will take you to court and may God help you let the judge not be a female you would be exclusively and spontaneously fvcked!, haven't you heard where men are jailed for not paying $10,000 for "monthly " child support of a child who's barely 3years old ?! what and how in the fvck us a healthy baby going to need such amount? you might say it's relative to the father's salary.
There's a big difference between being paranoid and applying CALCULATED RISK, the current mentality, situations and occurrence have made it clear for wise guys to act and coordinate carefully in everything especially in the issue of marriage. About where you were typing about women sharing properties with their husbands after divorce its only a situation that prenuptial agreement plays in. I've seen where a man's house and car was awarded to the bitchh assz wife after divorce and these are properties he had before marriage, the lady sold her car sometime ago before the divorce please don't get me started on this because I've seen and WITNESSED a lot of things that some men went, go and are going through in the name of the scam titled MARRIAGE. Too many awful, mind bugging stories. Make sure you and your wife agree on who pays so bills and that bills? that's when the going is good, what of when it turns sour?! may I remind you that every woman becomes a blood thirsty, vengeful, cunning, scandalous, vicious devil out to frustrate her victim (husband ) when things don't go their way? haven't you had about a woman scorned.... I can reasonably counter you anyway with examples ( with e.g if it's worth it ). Believe me as much as you would like to paint rainbows and beautiful cloudy sky the bitter truth can't be hidden my dear.

Blame your lawyer if you get screwed up.

In the UK, unless she lived the life of a billionaire wife without contributing anything then I am sorry if you lose some of your properties. The court will consider what she had lost before marriage (like sold her home to live when you) and what she lost during marriage, you are definitely going to lose something of you encouraged her to sit down all day and stay beautiful for you. However if she worked, you will be lucky. Also if you had an agreement, the court is likely to enforce it.

In the US, the court have a wider discretion hence the unfairness in some cases and it is left for your lawyer to use the law for its purpose. I think they imprison defaulters based on public policy.

I believe this whole thing is your fault. What have you done to challenge the legal system? We don't have issues like these in Belgium, Netherlands and other eu countries.

GoodFaith:

Please don't marry a Nigerian man
Nigerian men don't want you
keep stepping

You are as bad as your women.

daretodiffer:



You are as bad as your women.

U give and give
at some point you have to take care of u
I am a great dad and a great person
I am not foolish
Sister nobody will watch out for me

EgunMogaji:


Don't worry, deadbeat Dads is a common whip used by feminists

Please continue your postings, hopefully young uns will realize the bait that's out there from some of these scandalous women.

I couldn't disagree with anything that you posted.

Man billions of youngin's need to soak up knowledge about life I swear. Imagine a case were a broke asss bitchh that the husband divorced 25years ago came back to sue the man after she got to know that the man is now a multi millionaire?! this man made the millions 7-8 years after their divorce and the court had to order this innocent man to pay for the lawyers that his ex wife hired?!? and he had no other option than to pay for the lawyers that were hired to crucify ND extort him?!? this particular case just literally drives me nuts I swear.

GoodFaith:


Dude you need to update your address with the court
Life is not fair
The bitch want you down
a war is a war

The courts have the address but the onus is on who sues you to notify you and then submit proof to the court.

So if the person is morally flexible then they can just lie that you were served. Now you can mount a defense in court to appeal the issue. The bone of contention is the time and effort it takes especially considering you don't live in that state. So being that the monies are "for the best interest of the child" anyways you just let it go. It ends and soon

I've always believed that the courts should be the ones serving defendants and using sworn officers but they too lie. So here is where we are.

EgunMogaji:


Good luck Bro.

If she doesn't agree, I hope she does because I think you like her, then there are others from the pool to choose from.

thanks Bro, she's the best I've seen so far after fishing in different seas, rivers and what not, I hope she agrees Hahahaha :-))

icedbeatz:
Man billions of youngin's need to soak up knowledge about life I swear. Imagine a case were a broke asss bitchh that the husband divorced 25years ago came back to sue the man after she got to know that the man is now a multi millionaire?! this man made the millions 7-8 years after their divorce and the court had to order this innocent man to pay for the lawyers that his ex wife hired?!? and he had no other option than to pay for the lawyers that were hired to crucify ND extort him?!? this particular case just literally drives me nuts I swear.

But at least he got out with his life.

Many men are poisoned slowly by the Wife, killed by the new boyfriend, etc

Ever watch Snapped? http://www.oxygen.com/snapped

EgunMogaji:


The courts have the address but the onus is on who sues you to notify you and then submit proof to the court.

So if the person is morally flexible then they can just lie that you were served. Now you can mount a defense in court to appeal the issue. The bone of contention is the time and effort it takes especially considering you don't live in that state. So being that the monies are "for the best interest of the child" anyways you just let it go. It ends and soon

I've always believed that the courts should be the ones serving defendants and using sworn officers but they too lie. So here is where we are.

The court keep record of your updated address ( Not marriage or child support issue)
She just didn't want to pay her bill
I was just in court with a bitch that think she was going to out smart a Nigerian
She told the Judge that I server her at her Job
The judge told her sorry that is was the only address we have for you
Update your address now

daretodiffer:


Another issue is the law, people interpret the law out of ignorance. If both spouses purchase properties jointly, it will be divided into two. If you are working and she is not ot working less because of the family, she will be entitled to a part of the property you purchase because marriage is seen as a joint venture (she is working to take care if the family while you are working to provide the finance. It will be assumed that if she were working she would have her own financial contribitions to the family).

As per child support, don't let anyone deceive you, it doesn't matter whether you are xohbaiting or not, married or not, divorced or not, with or withoyt formal agreement, the court can still and will order you to pay what it seems necessary. There is no escape. Don't let anyone fool you.
...............
and you won't be forced to pay any maintenance fee.

You have no idea about what you are talking about and your post reeks of "lack of knowledge about the subject" (l dont want to say ignorance because it may be an offensive word!) and they are actually misleading, maybe intentionally.

First, the laws are skewed to favor the woman in the western world because everyone is trying too hard to 'compensate them' for past generationally perceived injustice, by men. Women in-turn have perfected the idea of taking the most advantage of the situation.

In your analysis above, if we look at the 'corollary' and assume a situation where the husband is not working (stays at home) and the wife is the one working, the court still does not share the property equally, in almost all cases.
The level of disparity/discrimination when it comes to applying the letter of the law, in marital disputes, is quite alarming.

A woman is generally allowed to keep the children (as the first custodian) whenever there is a separation between husband and wife......and in-turn, use that as a "leverage", to hold-on to the property they live-in .... irrespective of who owns the house, which inmost cases is the husband!

When it suits the legal system, women are viewed as the "weaker s.ex"[/color] (for example, in a case of two adults having s.ex with one another, a woman can claim rape ...while the man cannot because it is assumed that the man can "fight-off the assailant", while the woman cant! )
[color=#000099] ...but when it suits the legal system, it sees the woman as "equal sex".
This "inconsistency and double standard"we all know is because of their gender and nothing more.

When it comes to the court system in most Western countries, the man can have his say but the woman will most have their way.
God help you if you land in front of one of those female, "men-hating Judges" or a Male Judge who buys into the idea that all men are savages!

While l wont want to go into any long details on this, l will like to point out that you are mixing-up "Child-Support" and "Maintenance".

You pay "child-support" for the upkeep of the children of the family when couples separate.
You pay "maintenance" to an ex-wife, irrespective of whether you have children between you and her.


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GoodFaith:

The court keep record of your updated address ( Not marriage or child support issue)
She just didn't to pay her bill
I was just in court with a bitch that think she was going to out smart a Nigerian
She told the Judge that I server her at her Job
The judge told her sorry that is was the only address we have for you
Update your address now

Read my response again.

The courts have the correct address which never changed. That wasn't the issue.

There's nothing you can do if a plaintiff lies under oath that she had you served via unregistered US Mail.

It's more common than you would think.

http://www.lawqa.com/qa/what-can-i-do-if-my-ex-lied-about-serving-me-custody-papers

http://www.thelaw.com/threads/service-of-divorce-papers-process-server-lied.44083/

I don't need to convince you but keep it in your folder just in case cause it happens.

daretodiffer:


Blame your lawyer if you get screwed up.

In the UK, unless she lived the life of a billionaire wife without contributing anything then I am sorry if you lose some of your properties. The court will consider what she had lost before marriage (like sold her home to live when you) and what she lost during marriage, you are definitely going to lose something of you encouraged her to sit down all day and stay beautiful for you. However if she worked, you will be lucky. Also if you had an agreement, the court is likely to enforce it.

In the US, the court have a wider discretion hence the unfairness in some cases and it is left for your lawyer to use the law for its purpose. I think they imprison defaulters based on public policy.

I believe this whole thing is your fault. What have you done to challenge the legal system? We don't have issues like these in Belgium, Netherlands and other eu countries.

hold your horses dear, quit with the blame game because I haven't been taken to court by a babymama or ex wife or some similar stuff. I'm not a victim and would never be a victim thanks to God. Once again no matter how you try to present the law treating such cases bereft of sentiment the latter is the result because anyone residing in the states knows how the law is on the females sides and ready to burst a Niggas balls for the females. the law favours females and taunts males especially in divorce cases and that's the frigging fact. What you type and what goes on in reality are two different things honey.

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You have no idea about what you are talking about and your post reeks of "lack of knowledge about the subject" (l dont want to say ignorance because it may be an offensive word!) and they are actually misleading, maybe intentionally.

First, the laws are skewed to favor the woman in the western world because everyone is trying too hard to 'compensate them' for past generationally perceived injustice, by men. Women in-turn have perfected the idea of taking the most advantage of the situation.

In your analysis above, if we look at the 'corollary' and assume a situation where the husband is not working (stays at home) and the wife is the one working, the court still does not share the property equally, in almost all cases.
The level of disparity/discrimination when it comes to applying the letter of the law, in marital disputes, is quite alarming.

A woman is generally allowed to keep the children (as the first custodian) whenever there is a separation between husband and wife......and in-turn, use that as a "leverage", to hold-on to the property they live-in .... irrespective of who owns the house, which inmost cases is the husband!

When it suits the legal system, women are viewed as the "weaker s.ex"[/color] (for example, in a case of two adults having s.ex with one another, a woman can claim rape ...while the man cannot because it is assumed that the man can "fight-off the assailant", while the woman cant! )
[color=#000099] ...but when it suits the legal system, it sees the woman as "equal sex".
This "inconsistency and double standard"we all know is because of their gender and nothing more.

When it comes to the court system in most Western countries, the man can have his say but the woman will most have their way.
God help you if you land in front of one of those female, "men-hating Judges" or a Male Judge who buys into the idea that all men are savages!

While l wont want to go into any long details on this, l will like to point out that you are mixing-up "Child-Support" and "Maintenance".

You pay "child-support" for the upkeep of the children of the family when couples separate.
You pay "maintenance" to an ex-wife, irrespective of whether you have children between you and her.


Lastpage!

God and a Good lawyer
I know of a friend
The ex wanted a privater school fee for their son
It was a female Judge
Guess what the Judge ruled that the ex can'r make decision on the type of school their son attend
without the man's approval
The ex will have to pay for the private school

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You have no idea about what you are talking about and your post reeks of "lack of knowledge about the subject" (l dont want to say ignorance because it may be an offensive word!) and they are actually misleading, maybe intentionally.

First, the laws are skewed to favor the woman in the western world because everyone is trying too hard to 'compensate them' for past generationally perceived injustice, by men. Women in-turn have perfected the idea of taking the most advantage of the situation.

In your analysis above, if we look at the 'corollary' and assume a situation where the husband is not working (stays at home) and the wife is the one working, the court still does not share the property equally, in almost all cases. The level of disparity/discrimination when it comes to applying the letter of the law, in marital disputes, is quite alarming.

A woman is generally allowed to keep the children (as the first custodian) whenever there is a separation between husband and wife......and in-turn, use that as a "leverage", to hold-on to the property they live-in .... irrespective of who owns the house, which inmost cases is the husband!

When it suits the legal system, women are viewed as the "weaker s.ex" (for example, in a case of two adults having s.ex with one another, a woman can claim rape ...while the man cannot because it is assumed that the man can "fight-off the assailant", while the woman cant! )
...but when it suits the legal system, it sees the woman as "equal sex".
This "inconsistency and double standard"we all know is because of their gender and nothing more.

When it comes to the court system in most Western countries, the man can have his say but the woman will most have their way.
God help you if you land in front of one of those female, "men-hating Judges" or a Male Judge who buys into the idea that all men are savages!

While l wont want to go into any long details on this, l will like to point out that you are mixing-up "Child-Support" and "Maintenance".

You pay "child-support" for the upkeep of the children of the family when couples separate.
You pay "maintenance" to an ex-wife, irrespective of whether you have children between you and her.


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How much maintenance is a spouse entitled to?
It depends on the circumstances. Factors to be taken into account include:

Each partner’s needs, assets and ability to earn income.
The standard of living before the break up of the marriage.
How long you have been married and how old you are.
Any special needs such as a disability.
The contributions each spouse made to the marriage (eg by looking after the home and bringing up children).
If, for example, two young people divorce after a brief, childless marriage, it might be fair for them to each walk away with the assets they brought into the marriage, with neither paying the other maintenance.

On the other hand, suppose a couple have been married for 30 years, with the wife bringing up the children and looking after the home while the husband worked. A fair financial settlement might award the wife half the joint assets, including half her husband’s pension entitlement and maintenance of half her husband’s income until he retires.

This would reflect the value of the wife’s contribution to the marriage as a homemaker and the fact that she would not now be in a position to suddenly start earning a large income.

If there are children, their needs – including maintenance – are dealt with separately as a priority.

you are welcome

EgunMogaji:


Read my response again.

The courts have the correct address which never changed. That wasn't the issue.

There's nothing you can do if a plaintiff lies under oath that she had you served via unregistered US Mail.

It's more common than you would think.

http://www.lawqa.com/qa/what-can-i-do-if-my-ex-lied-about-serving-me-custody-papers

http://www.thelaw.com/threads/service-of-divorce-papers-process-server-lied.44083/

I don't need to convince you but keep it in your folder just in case cause it happens.

I did read your comment sad

icedbeatz:
hold your horses dear, quit with the blame game because I haven't been taken to court by a babymama or ex wife or some similar stuff. I'm not a victim and would never be a victim thanks to God. Once again no matter how you try to present the law treating such cases bereft of sentiment the latter is the result because anyone residing in the states knows how the law is on the females sides and ready to burst a Niggas balls for the females. the law favours females and taunts males especially in divorce cases and that's the frigging fact. What you type and what goes on in reality are two different things honey.

Okay sir

icedbeatz:
hold your horses dear, quit with the blame game because I haven't been taken to court by a babymama or ex wife or some similar stuff. I'm not a victim and would never be a victim thanks to God. Once again no matter how you try to present the law treating such cases bereft of sentiment the latter is the result because anyone residing in the states knows how the law is on the females sides and ready to burst a Niggas balls for the females. the law favours females and taunts males especially in divorce cases and that's the frigging fact. What you type and what goes on in reality are two different things honey.

I don't pray you fall a victim but I thought it would be wise if you knew what the law really say before marriage. If most people acted accordingly and blocked as many holes as possible before marriage, there will be little or no problem when the marriage terminates.

EgunMogaji:


But at least he got out with his life.

Many men are poisoned slowly by the Wife, killed by the new boyfriend, etc

Ever watch Snapped? http://www.oxygen.com/snapped

Bro in a sane world, why would a man be thankful and grateful for being spared, surviving or evading such horrible experience by some goblins in female forms.
the thought of giving up ones EARNINGS to another who doesn't deserve it forcefully by the same law that was supposed to be fair is just............... (short of words )

GoodFaith:

"The issue revolves around the hamfisted approach that the government places on Fathers who might miss their payments due to job loss, etc "
$1600 for a kid, for a month Yes that was a Bleep up shit
I do understand
As soon as you are having job problem[b] go back to court asap[/b]
If you are working less hours[b] go back to court asap[/b]
Lot of people sit back

Every time, go to court?

Do you know that legal fees at times, cost over double the C.S you are trying to reduce? not to mention the time consumed by never-ending adjournments which does not favor a man that wants to work or is looking for work

Its not that cut-out o.


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The world is full of children . . . . I say there's nothing wrong in raising another man's child.

GoodFaith:

God and a Good lawyer
I know of a friend
The ex wanted a privater school fee for their son
It was a female Judge
Guess what the Judge ruled that the ex can'r make decision on the type of school their son attend
without the man's approval
The ex will have to pay for the private school

wow! That place called America is fvcked up country, but I wonder if it is thesame in Europe region.

I have to do a research on this stuff

daretodiffer:


I don't pray you fall a victim but I thought it would be wise if you knew what the law really say before marriage. If most people acted accordingly and blocked as many holes as possible before marriage, there will be little or no problem when the marriage terminates.

so acknowledging that men who are interested in marriage should block some "holes" before marriage in order to avoid being wrecked means that you are admitting that the system is rigged in the favour of females at the inhumane expenses of their male counterparts huh?

icedbeatz:
so acknowledging that men who are interested in marriage should block some "holes" before marriage in order to avoid being wrecked means that you are admitting that the system is rigged in the favour of females at the inhumane expenses of their male counterparts huh?

I have never disagreed on that besides this issue mainly affects America and Canada

Macgreat:
The world is full of children . . . . I say there's nothing wrong in raising another man's child.

there is nothing wrong raising another's man child

Do pray your wife won't have another's man child inside her belly then you won't talk this PEICE of shitt you just vomited here