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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 6:52pm On Nov 06, 2015
Firefire:


The first two lines being developed are the Red Line and the Blue Line.

The project which was awarded for $1.5 billion to China Civil Engineering Construction Company (CCECC) in 2009, began with the simultaneous construction of the Red and Blue Lines.

http://www.cometonigeria.com/travel-news-and-events/under-construction/under-construction-lagos-badagry-expressway-and-eko-rail/


That cost was in 2009, it has be adjusted severally by Fashola before leaving... I can post the latest value if you like ?
Simultaneous? Is anything happening on the red line
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 6:53pm On Nov 06, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:



Ogbeni laudate ki n se yooba oo grin grin cheesy

Kini laudate ohun wa nse ni ibi apejo awon omo kaaro ojire?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 6:54pm On Nov 06, 2015
modath2:



You are in opposition simply for your advantage , it is not to further the Yoruba[ cause...

I live in a city where IT HAPPENS, & that happens is "share the money" & making their associates & cronies stupendously rich in quick time....

Bala Mohd's years in FCT was only to deliver dividends of democracy to mama piss' coffers... any development you see is solely restricted to the city centre..

Take a tour around the mega million estates & suburbs before getting on a soap box to denigrate anyone...

The bolded is insincere & we both know it...

Kindly let us restrict all PARTISAN views to the numerous partisan boards

Here, let's keep it purely as an avenue to advance the yoruba tribe's culture, values & progress.. Thx. smiley



@ nduchuks ,

I'm 150% convinced there is not a drop of yoruba blood coursing through your veins.. cheesy

You mean advocating for good governance is seen as being to my advantage ? Interesting...

If this project and light rail was delivered as promised by Fashola, do you know the level of development and employment it would have created for Lagosians ?

It is well.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 6:56pm On Nov 06, 2015
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 6:58pm On Nov 06, 2015
IyaIode:

Simultaneous? Is anything happening on the red line

There is the Blue Line from Okokomaiko to Marina;

the Red Line from Agbado to Marina via Iddo and Muritala Mohammed International Airport (MMIA);

the Green Line from Marina to Lekki (Airport) ;

the Yellow Line from Otta to Iddo and

the Purple Line from Redeem to Ojo.

There are also the Orange Line from Redeem to Marina and the Brown Line from Mile 12 to Marina.

I cannot remember seeing any rail project in any part of Lagos apart from the Iganmu - Mile axis.

Let those living around there confirm, please.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath2: 7:00pm On Nov 06, 2015
IlekeHD:
modath2 ke? grin

Bot has banned mo ! sad

I can't stop referring to you as anti ooo, it's my parents' fault, making it instinctive to call anyone that "sounds" matured as anti & booda....

cc: Aareonakakanfo, iyalode, zimoni et al,

Pls do not let us make this a partisan thread, let's keep it the way it has always been....

None of this parties are in bizness for the sake of the common man but some are better than some... shocked

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 7:02pm On Nov 06, 2015
modath2:


Bot has banned mo ! sad

I can't stop referring to you as anti ooo, it's my parents' fault, making it instinctive to call anyone that "sounds" matured as anti & booda....

cc: Aareonakakanfo, iyalode, zimoni et al,

Pls do not let us make this a partisan thread, let's keep it the way it has always been....

None of this parties are in bizness for the sake of the common man but some are better than some... shocked


That Bot sa bi misbehave undecided
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 7:02pm On Nov 06, 2015
You lot shouldn't let these political jobbers mess up this thread. undecided

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 7:05pm On Nov 06, 2015
IyaIode:

BRT will get to badagry



I think you guys are mixing it up.Out of those 10 lanes, i believe 2 are dedicated to rail.Still need to confirm though


Firefire while i don't believe they can complete it before 2016,I can tell you're viewing the issue from a party perspective.Abeg we need to quit this PDP/APC nonsense for the betterment of Yorubaland

Tobimillar this thread is not for Yorubas only and laudate is our vvvery good friend here infact he/she is a VIP.Even romanis can come in as long as they don't inundate the thread with their stvp!dity

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 7:06pm On Nov 06, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:




I think you guys are mixing it up.Out of those 10 lanes, i believe 2 are dedicated to rail.Still need to confirm though


Firefire while i don't believe they can complete it before 2016,I can tell you're viewing the issue from a party perspective.Abeg we need to quit this PDP/APC nonsense for the betterment of Yorubaland

Tobimillar this thread is not for Yorubas only and laudate is our vvvery good friend here infact he/she's a VIP.Even romanis can come in as long as they don't inundate the thread with their stvp!dity


ok

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 7:11pm On Nov 06, 2015
Sukkot

Big bredrin, we need ya celestial blessings on this thread.

And you haven't told where in Yorubaland you represent. grin

Come wave ya flag in here. cool
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DeLaRue: 7:14pm On Nov 06, 2015
My first contribution to this thread..and I agree with those who have observed that the contributor 'FireFire' appears more interested in seeeing things from a party political (PDP) perspective rather than putting 'Yoruba' first.

Now he has even extended the thing to Tinubu and Funsho Williams when there's absolutely no connection with the topic in hand.

As soon as more of his like on both PDP and APC sides decend on this thread, it's going to be downhill from here on.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 7:15pm On Nov 06, 2015
DeLaRue:
My first contribution to this thread..and I agree with those who have observed that the contributor 'FireFire' appears more interested in seeeing things from a party political (PDP) perspective rather than putting 'Yoruba' first.

Now he has even extended the thing to Tinubu and Funsho Williams when there's absolutely no connection with the topic in hand.

As soon as more of his like on both PDP and APC sides decend on this thread, it's going to be downhill from here on.



You need to study the trend of discussion before jumping into unnecessary conclusion.

When you say party perspective, who are the party representing, are they not representing the masses ?

And moreover, we are not even mentioning any party here.

So be guided accordingly.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 7:20pm On Nov 06, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:



The 8 lane from Mile2-Badagry is part of it.I think two lanes are supposed to be for trains.Please correct me if i'm wrong

The 2 rail lines are the project of Lagos State Govt.

The road lanes are being done by Ecowas. It is meant to be a regional super highway for west Africa. I have not been able to understand where Lagos road construction stops and where that of Ecowas starts.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 7:25pm On Nov 06, 2015
superstar1:


The 2 rail lines are the project of Lagos State Govt.

The road lanes are being done by Ecowas. It is meant to be a regional super highway for west Africa. I have not been able to understand where Lagos road construction stops and where that of Ecowas starts.


Oro yi oo ti e wa ye mi mo. cheesy grin Egbon mi abeg lets leave that one aside till those who know about it help us out
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DeLaRue: 7:27pm On Nov 06, 2015
Incidentally, one of my clients is involved in efforts to inject new life into one of the lines being discussed, and I was involved in high level communication with a particular foreign investor weeks ago.


Let me put it this way:


Those expecting Ambode to be firing on all cylinders and in all directions concerning the various lines proposed/initiated by Fashola just don't understand.

First, Lagos State simply does not have the funds to finance all these major projects (road and rail) started by Fashola.

Second, Lagos State is pretty loaded on debt already, so additional substantial debt financing is not seen as atractive at this point.

Thirdly, I may be wrong, but it does seem that Fashola embarked on too many of these big ticket projects at the same time.

Fourthly, it is ineveitable that one or the other of these projects will end up in PPP with the private sector stepping in.

Finally, with the exception of a couple or so rail lines, many of the other lines proposed by Fashola (yellow, greenline or what else), will not happen. That's the reality.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by theV0ice: 7:28pm On Nov 06, 2015
Abeg the politicians should spare us the politics here pls. There are enough threads for that.

Here Tinubu and Fayose are the same because they both belong to this elegant tribe of Yoruba.

Folks like me who know pretty little about the SW are learning about home here.

Ema da iyepe si flow wa jare angry

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by zimoni(f): 7:31pm On Nov 06, 2015
Firefire:


You need to study the trend of discussion before jumping into unnecessary conclusion.

When you say party perspective, who are the party representing, are they not representing the masses ?

And moreover, we are not even mentioning any party here.

So be guided accordingly.

You are a card carrying member of a political party. Therefore, whatever you post here will be viewed from party angle.

In my own opinion, that project should have been completed by now. The projects completed so far do not correspond with the IGR generated yearly, monthly allocation from FG and debt accrued. FACT.

Anyway, let me quit discussing Lagos. I'm not a Lagosian and I have never lived there.

Wish Lagosians best of luck.

We can't afford to derail this thread, there's no way we will discuss some issues without mentioning names. So, we minimize the discussion for the purpose of this thread.

God Bless Yorubaland.

Development of Yorubaland is non-negotiable.

It is well.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by IlekeHD: 7:31pm On Nov 06, 2015
At a restaurant eating as usual, brb
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 7:32pm On Nov 06, 2015
tobimillar:


Singing ***ojo nlo, ose to lo ni mo pe 30 oo shade***

Time is not my problem but there ain't no clear cut policies or plans. Insecurity , lawlessness traffic quagmire in lagos is at its peak. We shouldn't keep silent.

E ma je ki a ma so wipe omo egbe wa ni,bi o ba je jimi agbaje ni o nse bayi, mo mò wipe a o ti kan mo igi. Omo egbe APC ni mi sugbon otito ni o ye ki a so. BRF ko lo osu meta ki awon ara eko to ri ere ijoba...otito Koro
You might be right but i will still give him time, Brf is on another level
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 7:35pm On Nov 06, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:




[b][color=#770077]I think you guys are mixing it up.Out of those 10 lanes, i believe 2 are dedicated to rail.Still need to confirm though


From what i have seen on ground, i don't think the rail is taking any part of the 10 lanes. The rails actually run in the middle, between both sides of the 5
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 7:36pm On Nov 06, 2015
IlekeHD:
At a restaurant eating as usual, brb



Iya agba you're always at the restaurant grin cheesy Eyin yi le je ile tongue Are you the Yoruba version of "Kendra Krinklesac from The Cleveland Show?" ehn


Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 7:37pm On Nov 06, 2015
DeLaRue:
Incidentally, one of my clients is involved in efforts to inject new life into one of the lines being discussed, and I was involved in high level communication with a particular foreign investor weeks ago.


Let me put it this way:


Those expecting Ambode to be firing on all cylinders and in all directions concerning the various lines proposed/initiated by Fashola just don't understand.

First, Lagos State simply does not have the funds to finance all these major projects (road and rail) started by Fashola.

Second, Lagos State is pretty loaded on debt already, so additional substantial debt financing is not seen as atractive at this point.

Thirdly, I may be wrong, but it does seem that Fashola embarked on too many of these big ticket projects at the same time.

Fourthly, it is ineveitable that one or the other of these projects will end up in PPP with the private sector stepping in.

Finally, with the exception of a couple or so rail lines, many of the other lines proposed by Fashola (yellow, greenline or what else), will not happen. That's the reality.

All the light rail projects was proposed to run on PPP...

AS Nigeria’s business headquarters, the Southwest is expected to lead other regions in the quest to develop Nigeria through massive investment in infrastructure

He pointed out that the rail project was being implemented under a public and private partnership. The state is building the infrastructure while the private sector will provide the rolling stock and management.


Dr Mobereola also pointed out that the Lagos rail will generate employment and create more housing.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/08/lagos-building-new-nigeria-rail-projects-lamata-boss/

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 7:39pm On Nov 06, 2015
zimoni:


You are a card carrying member of a political party. Therefore, whatever you post here will be viewed from party angle.

In my own opinion, that project should have been completed by now. The projects completed so far do not correspond with the IGR generated yearly, monthly allocation from FG and debt accrued. FACT.

Anyway, let me quit discussing Lagos. I'm now a Lagosian and I have never lived there.

Wish Lagosians best of luck.

We can't afford to derail this thread, there's no way we will discuss some issues without mentioning names. So, we minimize the discussion for the purpose of this thread.

God Bless Yorubaland.

Development of Yorubaland is non-negotiable.

It is well.

It is well. tongue

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 7:41pm On Nov 06, 2015
DeLaRue:
Incidentally, one of my clients is involved in efforts to inject new life into one of the lines being discussed, and I was involved in high level communication with a particular foreign investor weeks ago.


Let me put it this way:


Those expecting Ambode to be firing on all cylinders and in all directions concerning the various lines proposed/initiated by Fashola just don't understand.

First, Lagos State simply does not have the funds to finance all these major projects (road and rail) started by Fashola.

Second, Lagos State is pretty loaded on debt already, so additional substantial debt financing is not seen as atractive at this point.

Thirdly, I may be wrong, but it does seem that Fashola embarked on too many of these big ticket projects at the same time.

Fourthly, it is ineveitable that one or the other of these projects will end up in PPP with the private sector stepping in.

Finally, with the exception of a couple or so rail lines, many of the other lines proposed by Fashola (yellow, greenline or what else), will not happen. That's the reality.
I think the noise about the lekki epe road toll has killed PPP in this state. This is the reason why i hate the pdp (sorry for going political) and those fla.theads, we shouldn't how those fools kill our progress.

Lagos is the massive and viable to expect government to do everything

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 7:42pm On Nov 06, 2015
tobimillar:


Singing ***ojo nlo, ose to lo ni mo pe 30 oo shade***

Time is not my problem but there ain't no clear cut policies or plans. Insecurity , lawlessness traffic quagmire in lagos is at its peak. We shouldn't keep silent.

E ma je ki a ma so wipe omo egbe wa ni,bi o ba je jimi agbaje ni o nse bayi, mo mò wipe a o ti kan mo igi. Omo egbe APC ni mi sugbon otito ni o ye ki a so. BRF ko lo osu meta ki awon ara eko to ri ere ijoba...otito Koro

Eku aseku ayajo ojo ibi oooo tongue

Otito is Yoyo Bitter - Modath cheesy

God bless the Yoruba Nation.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 7:45pm On Nov 06, 2015
IlekeHD:


To ba je pe ilu oyinbo ni, mo le so pe a sele.
Sugbon mii mo limitations ti a ni ni Lagos.

1. When was the project awarded? (I think 1 year is unrealistic)

2. What does a light rail need to perform? To be maintained? Do we have those resourced in abundance? If not, how much will it cost the Lagos-Ogun-Oyo to get them?

3. How much will it cost us to operate them in Lagos?

4. Is this an underground or surface light rail?


Im eating, reading, typing, got music in my ears, heading to meeting in a few mins, need to send email, need to call my love and blow kiss...again, i need water, i should skip respond to this rail thingy but i cant cause when i saw it i was in a train snaking through subterranean tunnels....so i rearranged to do list and put on my thinking hat....


Im not a social critic but I would recommend that as a first rule we create a meaningful rating system for producing performance stats and scoring for administrators...that way we cn rate on big projects like this. Venting on a waste of public resource do us no good

The rail system is proposed as a solution to ease Lagos traffic. Why is Lagos traffic this bad? Due to population explosion. Why are there so many people in Lagos? Due to its relative modernity and urban profile. So will the addition of this rail system increase that profile and appeal? Yes. What can be expected? No one in Lagos will leave but more people will troop in to experience the new glamor and make the population problem worse. Will this situation ease Lagos traffic? No, it will worsen it.

Sustainability. Our mindset, habits and reactions to infrastructure and environment has not improved and we still respond to our environment in a stand-offish manner as consumers instead of owners. So we must be sincere with ourselves. After the whites passed administration of Nigerian Railway Corporation to us we ran it to the ground. Same with Apapa ports. Same with airline. We can't maintain roads, can't maintain buildings, we do not maintain drainage and sewer, when whites ran this country our water pipes flowed...not any more, we can't even generate and distribute electiricity successfully and consistently. So what public infrastructure do we maintain in our society? None! Now we are adding another burden to the public treasury.

Are we matured to handle the responsibility that comes with owning, operating and sustaining a rail transport system?

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Firefire(m): 7:46pm On Nov 06, 2015
IyaIode:

I think the noise about the lekki epe road toll has killed PPP in this state. This is the reason why i hate the pdp (sorry for going political) and those fla.theads, we shouldn't how those fools kill our progress.

Lagos is the massive and viable to expect government to do everything

I can take you on another expository thread on your thoughts about the Leki/Epe toll / PPP and the corresponding cost attributed to the project.

No matter what, we can only move our region forward when we are set to ask instructive questions on accountability / stewardship reports from our Yoruba leaders.

Irorun igi, o ni irorun eiye.

Shalom!

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by DeLaRue: 7:46pm On Nov 06, 2015
Firefire:


All the light rail projects was proposed to run on PPP...

AS Nigeria’s business headquarters, the Southwest is expected to lead other regions in the quest to develop Nigeria through massive investment in infrastructure

He pointed out that the rail project was being implemented under a public and private partnership. The state is building the infrastructure while the private sector will provide the rolling stock and management.

My understanding is that little or no work has been done on the Red Line. So, all aspects of this project (infrastructure, rolling stock, and management) should be farmed out on PPP basis. Let the private sector handle it, as it does not look like the State can afford to put the cost of this project on its balance sheet right now.
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by MayorofLagos(m): 7:48pm On Nov 06, 2015
IyaIode:

From what i have seen on ground, i don't think the rail is taking any part of the 10 lanes. The rails actually run in the middle, between both sides of the 5

Thats true.

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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Rilwayne001: 7:50pm On Nov 06, 2015
Firefire:


I can take you on another expository thread on your thoughts about the Leki/Epe toll / PPP and the corresponding cost attributed to the project.

No matter what, we can only move our region forward when we are set to ask instructive questions on accountability / stewardship reports from our Yoruba leaders.

Irorun igi, o ni irorun eiye.

Shalom!

Firefire, is it true that you are not YORUBA?
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by nduchucks: 7:54pm On Nov 06, 2015
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