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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by winner01(m): 8:38am On Nov 05, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


LOL ...@winner01 ... this is the person who claimed he was a christian and johnydon22 said he was "top-notch" . Paul's 14books in the bible were letters to churches he started . He wrote letters to them under the guidance of the Holy Spirit . The purpose of the letters were mostly to strengthen their belief in God and encourage them to be steadfast in the Lord .

dalaman has no idea what he was into right from the begining, i doubt he has the slightest idea on what atheism is all about too.
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by winner01(m): 8:39am On Nov 05, 2015
frank317:


Lol... You have called me frustrated, then you called me stu.pid and now I am a contagious dullard. I have already seen u in hell. Well, for ur info, I am not a dullard. I am just a guy who is here to expose you to the fact that your God does not exist.
Add grossly unintelligent to the list of names ive called you, ode.
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by dalaman: 11:16am On Nov 05, 2015
winner01:
Give sensible reasons for the claims youve made first, we can start from there.

Your God is a man made idea that is why you as a man must defend it, speak on it's behalf, spread it;s word, build it's temple, explain it to others and on and on, your God lives only in your imaginations and can not do anything on it;s own. It can only act in pages of story books and in your imaginations. Now tell me what the purpose of human existence is. Why are you running away from the question?

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by Chizzled06(m): 6:47pm On Nov 05, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


I've had enough of this evolution nonsense

1. The theory falls flat when you talk of whales , camels , penguins, earthworms , pigeons etc

2. The theory falls flat when you talk of sexes - male and female - and the complexity of their reproduction systems

3. The theory falls flat when you talk of organs like the tongue , brain, heart

4. The theory falls flat when you talk of fruits , yes the fruit you eat

5. The theory falls flat when you talk of proteins

6. The body has the propensity to heal wounds , the theory falls flat when it tries to explain how and why

7 The theory of evolution falls flat when you actually study insects , see how the very tiniest possesses life and carry out its daily activities

8 The theory falls flat when you talk about how and why we feel pain . How could a complex system like it be developed by chance ? Your ability to feel pain and the response to the extent of damage is simply amazing

9 The theory falls flat when you compare natural intelligence to artificial intelligence just like I explained to Chizzled06 . These evolutionists fail to see the brain as designed but yap about how complex it became through evolution . Functions of the brain like learning and attaining perfection are brilliantly being tried to be replicated in artificial intelligence .

10 The theory falls flat when you talk of emotions - why we love , hate , get angry, why we forgive , why we show happiness , sadness . Why and how did we evolve such ?


Finally, you admit that you don't understand the theory that you love to criticize.

The evolutionary process of each and every bulleted point you raised above can be understood, if only you yourself a chance to learn.

The day the theory "falls flat", it will cease to be accepted by the world's leading biologists, paleontologists, anthropologists and medical scientists.

Evolution is true, regardless of whether you choose to believe it or not.

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:51pm On Nov 05, 2015
Chizzled06:



Finally, you admit that you don't understand the theory that you love to criticize.

The evolutionary process of each and every bulleted point you raised above can be understood, if only you yourself a chance to learn.

The day the theory "falls flat", it will cease to be accepted by the world's leading biologists, paleontologists, anthropologists and medical scientists.

Evolution is true, regardless of whether you choose to believe it or not.

Please Chizzled06 abeg do me a great favour and refute every single point made
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:54pm On Nov 05, 2015
Chizzled06:


Evolution is true, regardless of whether you choose to believe it or not.

God exists , regardless of whether you choose to believe it or not
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by Chizzled06(m): 7:23pm On Nov 05, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Please Chizzled06 abeg do me a great favour and refute every single point made

Do yourself a favour and pick up a biology textbook. Or copy and paste each "question" into Google and find rational answers.

You can start with this: http://www.livescience.com/474-controversy-evolution-works.html

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by KingEbukasBlog(m): 3:31am On Nov 06, 2015
Chizzled06:


Do yourself a favour and pick up a biology textbook. Or copy and paste each "question" into Google and find rational answers.

You can start with this: http://www.livescience.com/474-controversy-evolution-works.html

Bears , cows or hippos turning into whales grin . Did you even read the comments ? A good online reader should be eager to know opposing views in the comments section .

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by frank317: 5:35am On Nov 06, 2015
winner01:
Add grossly unintelligent to the list of names ive called you, ode.

Your God does not exist. If I am all these things you call me doesn't that show how foolish your God is? According to you he created an ode like me right. Then your God must be an almighty ode.


Meanwhile see you in hell bro. Welcome.

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by winner01(m): 9:45am On Nov 06, 2015
frank317:


Your God does not exist. If I am all these things you call me doesn't that show how foolish your God is? According to you he created an ode like me right. Then your God must be an almighty ode.
Yeah, keep up the rage,

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by frank317: 3:54pm On Nov 06, 2015
winner01:
Yeah, keep up the rage,

Are we in agreement that your God is an Almighty ode for creating an ode like me?

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by Chizzled06(m): 7:34pm On Nov 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Bears , cows or hippos turning into whales grin . Did you even read the comments ? A good online reader should be eager to know opposing views in the comments section .

I'm sorry, but you can't "oppose" scientific fact.

Any such comments exist because of people like you, blockheads unwilling to let go of religous predispositions even after being confronted with rational, insurmountable evidence.
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by winner01(m): 7:39pm On Nov 06, 2015
frank317:


Are we in agreement that your God is an Almighty ode for creating an ode like me?
But He dosent exist na, be lyk say make i dey cal santa claus ode. Ol boy, you be confirm ode.

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by KingEbukasBlog(m): 7:45pm On Nov 06, 2015
Chizzled06:


I'm sorry, but you can't "oppose" scientific fact.

Any such comments exist because of people like you, blockheads unwilling to let go of religous predispositions even after being confronted with rational, insurmountable evidence.

Your show of hostility is unwarranted here . Evidence that cows , hippos or bears could transform into whales ? What is that , a magic show ? Or asserting that whatever is present as a human feature was an evolutionary need ? Its more like evolution-of-the-gaps

Blockhead ? Please ... please...dont pour your frustration on me . I'm a computer science student and I've used a little of robotics's perspective to show the theory does not exist .
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:00pm On Nov 06, 2015
frank317:


Are we in agreement that your God is an Almighty ode for creating an ode like me?

God created everyone and detest foolishness .

Proverbs 1:22

22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

The bible describes someone who hates knowledge as foolish

Your exhibition of stupidity is an expression of freewill - something special He gave humans .

Because a child exhibits foolishness does not mean the dad is foolish

Proverbs 17:25
25 A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him.

... instead you bring shame and sorrow to the family

Dear Frank317 , God is a wise God

Romans 16:27

27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by Chizzled06(m): 10:33pm On Nov 06, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Your show of hostility is unwarranted here . Evidence that cows , hippos or bears could transform into whales ? What is that , a magic show ? Or asserting that whatever is present as a human feature was an evolutionary need ? Its more like evolution-of-the-gaps

Blockhead ? Please ... please...dont pour your frustration on me . I'm a computer science student and I've used a little of robotics's perspective to show the theory does not exist .


Yes, there's evidence. Plenty of it. From genetics, archeology, paleontology and other scientific disciplines. So much so that your religious overlords can't deny it any longer - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html Genesis 1&2? Talk about a magic show!

The theory is one of the most tested and verified scientific theories there's ever been, and warrants no contest from people that understand it.

If you're really curious about the origin of life on earth, pick up a biology textbook. Or you can stick to writing codes.

*All present human features didn't evolve "as an evolutionary need", that's why vestigiality exists*

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by djdoxxx(m): 10:50pm On Nov 06, 2015
frank317:


Something? Now this one refers his almighty blah blah blah as something. Now you know which almighty something is real.. you get work.
Lmao...Frankie, Your Eyes No Dey Over-look Something Ni? Must You See Everything? Lol...Very Hillarious!
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by djdoxxx(m): 10:56pm On Nov 06, 2015
Chizzled06:


Do yourself a favour and pick up a biology textbook. Or copy and paste each "question" into Google and find rational answers.

You can start with this: http://www.livescience.com/474-controversy-evolution-works.html
Good Reply
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by djdoxxx(m): 11:00pm On Nov 06, 2015
frank317:


Are we in agreement that your God is an Almighty ode for creating an ode like me?
Sure, We Are! He Created Us In His Own Image...If You Be Ode, Then He Is A Super- Ode!!!
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by djdoxxx(m): 11:02pm On Nov 06, 2015
Chizzled06:


I'm sorry, but you can't "oppose" scientific fact.

Any such comments exist because of people like you, blockheads unwilling to let go of religous predispositions even after being confronted with rational, insurmountable evidence.
Yikes!!! Did You Just Call Him A Blockhead? Am I Right To Say His God Is A Superior Blockhead Knowing He Was Created In This Blockhead's Image?

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by djdoxxx(m): 11:10pm On Nov 06, 2015
Chizzled06:



Yes, there's evidence. Plenty of it. From genetics, archeology, paleontology and other scientific disciplines. So much so that your religious overlords can't deny it any longer - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html Genesis 1&2? Talk about a magic show!

The theory is one of the most tested and verified scientific theories there's ever been, and warrants no contest from people that understand it.

If you're really curious about the origin of life on earth, pick up a biology textbook. Or you can stick to writing codes.

*All present human features didn't evolve "as an evolutionary need", that's why vestigiality exists*
You Suffer This Particular Fool Gladly...Waiting Silently For You To Pick On The Other One...He Would Dare Not Quote You....Hehehehe
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:41am On Nov 07, 2015
Chizzled06:



Yes, there's evidence. Plenty of it. From genetics, archeology, paleontology and other scientific disciplines.

Please stop cheesy . Dont say scientific disciplines because even in software development . The software engineers are meant to produce software in response to the changing needs of the customers (Evolution) . That's why you have versions of software . But you notice that software doesn't update on its on will but requires the S.Es to work as regards to the new specifications from the customers or trying to fix bugs in the the previous versions - iteratively in some cases .

So much so that your religious overlords can't deny it any longer

This is in relation to the first comment : If evolution is true , then God or the supernatural is responsible for it (theistic evolution ) .

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html Genesis 1&2? Talk about a magic show!

1.The Pope is not God and has no right to declare for christians if evolution is true or not . He is trying to imply theistic evolution which apparently you are not aware of as you quickly dug out this article in your quest to ridicule the christian belief . Lemme ask you is the creation story literal or figurative ?

2.He is trying to please the science world by insinuating that christianity is no longer in the "dark ages" and should "grow" as more "scientific discoveries" are made

The theory is one of the most tested and verified scientific theories there's ever been, and warrants no contest from people that understand it.

Were you there when the cows or hippos or bears turned into whales ? You just accepted the theory ignorantly or better still with faith - hoping that your "studies" are a reflection of what actually took place

If you're really curious about the origin of life on earth, pick up a biology textbook. Or you can stick to writing codes.

That a single cell got us 8.7 million species each having different complexities ? This is not the "jokes" section

Writing codes ? You've made sense admitting that mind produces mind and evolution if true then it was orchestrated by the SUPERnatural , following a blueprint - in a bid to create varieties .

*All present human features didn't evolve "as an evolutionary need", that's why vestigiality exists*

Making assertions to enforce your theory is being "mentally indolent " - in plaetton's own words - and yes dogmatic . Have you ever thought of if the functions of these " unevolved organs or body parts " are just obscure ?

Before refuting my statement , did you ask yourself why sex is pleasurable for humans ? Why do humans have emotions ? Because it was an evolutionary need will be your answer cheesy

So you didn't see the concentration of sensory nerve endings in the cli.toris and pen.is as a design ? Do you know why females evolved the cli.toris - an organ just for sexual pleasure .
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by KingEbukasBlog(m): 6:52am On Nov 07, 2015
djdoxxx:
You Suffer This Particular Fool Gladly...Waiting Silently For You To Pick On The Other One...He Would Dare Not Quote You....Hehehehe

Did you ask yourself why Chizzled06 refused evasively to refute those 10 points made ? grin Or wait you could do it yourself . Show me that I'm wrong .
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by frank317: 12:31pm On Nov 07, 2015
winner01:
But He dosent exist na, be lyk say make i dey cal santa claus ode. Ol boy, you be confirm ode.

OK... So we are in agreement he does not exist?
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by frank317: 12:35pm On Nov 07, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


God created everyone and detest foolishness .

Proverbs 1:22

22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

The bible describes someone who hates knowledge as foolish

Your exhibition of stupidity is an expression of freewill - something special He gave humans .

Because a child exhibits foolishness does not mean the dad is foolish

Proverbs 17:25
25 A foolish son is a grief to his father, and bitterness to her that bare him.

... instead you bring shame and sorrow to the family

Dear Frank317 , God is a wise God

Romans 16:27

27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen

Sorry, your bro just confirmed your God does not exist. Its time you also start thinking like him for your own good.

Beside you forget that your God (the next they will do is say 'but he does jot exist na', dumb people) created man in his own image.

So by your logic:

-God created frank in his own image
-Frank is foolish (ode)
-Frank is created in God's image
-so therefore God is foolish.

Now you guys should not play me the dumb card of, 'but you said he does not exist na,' that's a cliche.

IF your God exist, he must be foolish since frank is foolish.
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:36pm On Nov 07, 2015
frank317:


Sorry, your bro just confirmed your God does not exist. Its time you also start thinking like him for your own good.

He was clearly being sarcastic wink tongue
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by frank317: 12:41pm On Nov 07, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


He was clearly being sarcastic wink tongue

So what aim?

No, he was playing dumb. He was also evading an obvious fact.

Going by his logic
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by frank317: 12:44pm On Nov 07, 2015
djdoxxx:
Sure, We Are! He Created Us In His Own Image...If You Be Ode, Then He Is A Super- Ode!!!

I will gladly accept to be an ode... If he accept that his God is a super ode.
After all according to him, no b me create my self.
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by winner01(m): 1:46pm On Nov 07, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


He was clearly being sarcastic wink tongue
KingEbukasBlog, I suggest you free frank. He obviously is under-educated so i dont expect him to recognize sarcasm when he see one, hes the same guy that didnt understand the use of quotation marks. I think this quote from a formerly world renowed atheist sums up his feelings.

"I was at this time of living, like so many Atheists or Anti-theists, in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with Him for creating a world." C.S. Lewis

Note that;
1. Lewis maintained that God didnt exist just like frank still does
2. Lewis was angry with God for not existing, so is frank (notice how he calls God all sorts of names)
3. Lewis was angry with God for creating a world, frank still is. (notice how he constantly rejects the fact that the world was created for a purpose, a reason and of course God's pleasure.






Frank317, each word you type shows how unintelligent you are. You are far more unintelligent than the dullard that created this thread, you are a disgrace to atheism.
I maintain that you are still an "ode", cos youve not proved otherwise.
Ill come down to your level to explain this just once and thats all its gonna be.

[i]If you constantly show that you are a fool, does that automatically translates to the fact that your earthly father is also a fool? undecided

Pls take my advise, quit disgracing yourself

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Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by KingEbukasBlog(m): 2:10pm On Nov 07, 2015
winner01:

KingEbukasBlog, I suggest you free frank. He obviously is under-educated so i dont expect him to recognize sarcasm when he see one, hes the same guy that didnt understand the use of quotation marks. I think this quote from a formerly world renowed atheist sums up his feelings.

"I was at this time of living, like so many Atheists or Anti-theists, in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with Him for creating a world." C.S. Lewis

Note that;
1. Lewis maintained that God didnt exist just like frank still does
2. Lewis was angry with God for not existing, so is frank (notice how he calls God all sorts of names)
3. Lewis was angry with God for creating a world, frank still is. (notice how he constantly rejects the fact that the world was created for a purpose, a reason and of course God's pleasure.






Frank317, each word you type shows how unintelligent you are. You are far more unintelligent than the dullard that created this thread, you are a disgrace to atheism.
I maintain that you are still an "ode", cos youve not proved otherwise.
Ill come down to your level to explain this just once and thats all its gonna be.

[i]If you constantly show that you are a fool, does that automatically translates to the fact that your earthly father is also a fool? undecided

Pls take my advise, quit disgracing yourself

Actually I'm fed up with the absurd reasoning Frank317 shows sad. WTH is because a child is foolish therefore the father is foolish undecided. I think he needs help ASAP lipsrsealed .
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by frank317: 2:22pm On Nov 07, 2015
winner01:

KingEbukasBlog, I suggest you free frank. He obviously is under-educated so i dont expect him to recognize sarcasm when he see one, hes the same guy that didnt understand the use of quotation marks. I think this quote from a formerly world renowed atheist sums up his feelings.

"I was at this time of living, like so many Atheists or Anti-theists, in a whirl of contradictions. I maintained that God did not exist. I was also very angry with God for not existing. I was equally angry with Him for creating a world." C.S. Lewis

Note that;
1. Lewis maintained that God didnt exist just like frank still does
2. Lewis was angry with God for not existing, so is frank (notice how he calls God all sorts of names)
3. Lewis was angry with God for creating a world, frank still is. (notice how he constantly rejects the fact that the world was created for a purpose, a reason and of course God's pleasure.






Frank317, each word you type shows how unintelligent you are. You are far more unintelligent than the dullard that created this thread, you are a disgrace to atheism.
I maintain that you are still an "ode", cos youve not proved otherwise.
Ill come down to your level to explain this just once and thats all its gonna be.

[i]If you constantly show that you are a fool, does that automatically translates to the fact that your earthly father is also a fool? undecided

Pls take my advise, quit disgracing yourself

Quite running from piller to post and eating ur whole effort trying to prove I am angry with ur God. That's ur own insinuation and it has nothing to do with me neither does it prove the existent of your God. U are just trying to divert the discussion with meaningless statement about anger, rather than proving your God.

Ur God does not exist.

Saying I am angry at your God only belittles him the more and make him petty. How can I be angry at my creator like he is my mate. Am I even supposed to be angry at my creator? Who am I to have the guts to express anger at my almighty creator.
You are obviously too dull to think this through.

Fine in have accepted that I am an ode... But that simply means 'if your God exists" and he created me in his ode image... Then he is an alnigthy ode.

This is obvious and there is no need going round again. As from today... I accept that I am an ode only because ur God is an almighty ode. End of argument.
Re: Some Ways Christianity Inoculates Itself Against Reason And Logic by frank317: 2:27pm On Nov 07, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


Actually I'm fed up with the absurd reasoning Frank317 shows sad. WTH is because a child is foolish therefore the father is foolish undecided. I think he needs help ASAP lipsrsealed .

Your foolishness knows no bound. If your God created me in his images and I am foolish... Is that my fault? Did i create myself? Wasnt it you that said ur God created me in his own image? Do u even reason at all or are u just a noise maker?
If I am foolish and I was created in ur Gods image, from whence did my foolishness come from?
The foolishness you display on this forum even shows dumb your God can be.

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