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| The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by donnffd(m): 12:27pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Due to most Nairalanders' ignorance on evolution, decided to just put this out there, you can either learn or ignore, its up to you. Evolution is change in the heritable traits of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including the levels of species, individual organisms, and molecules. All life on Earth shares a common ancestor known as the last universal ancestor, which lived approximately 3.5–3.8 billion years ago, from the fossil records, single celled organisms dominanted the planet for the majority of earth's life until about 500million to 1billion years ago where multi-celled organisms came on board and the complexity grew with exponentially. From what we understand, Mutation is the error in the rearrangement of genes that causes new traits in offspring organisms that were not found in parent organism,note many are bad,some are neutral and few are Good, but from these few, organisms grow in their diversity. MYTH: Evolution is a Theory not a Fact FACT: Evolution is a Fact, Not a theory, these stems from the misunderstanding of the word Theory, in previous years they were called Laws, now often called Theory but they are basically the same thing, they describe a scientific fact of the natural world. MYTH: Why has Evolution stopped? FACT: Evolution has not stopped, it is all around us, it happens every day when new organisms are born, the misunderstanding here is that most people expect to see the changes, but this is not the case, the changes are very minute and small for even 5 generations to notice, but if you are as old as the earth, and you cumulate all these changes over many many generations, you would notice those changes. MYTH: If Humans came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys? FACT: If Americans came from Britain, why are there still British people!!!, well first of all, thats just to point out the stupidity of that statement, but in reality, humans didnt come from monkeys, we just share a more recent common ancestor, compared to a dog or a tree because believe it or not, we are all related, dolphins, cockroaches, trees, mosquitoes, monkeys, dogs, humans e.t.c We all common from the same organism that lived 3.8 billion years ago. So look at it this way, chimps are our closest cousins... MYTH: There is no Evidence for Evolution FACT: There are plenty of evidence, DNA Sequencing,Comparative Anatomy,Comparative Physiology and biochemistry, Paleontology, Geographical distribution e.t.c There are wealth of evidences MYTH: Why arent monkeys evolving? FACT: Monkeys are evolving, all living things are evolving, but it is a painfully slow process, you cant expect to see macro evolution in your life time, its not just possible. MYTH: If we came from monkeys, who created the monkeys? FACT: like i said earlier, we ddnt come from monkeys, we share a common ancestry all the way back 3.5billion years ago to the Last Universal Common Ancestor MYTH: How did molecules assemble to form the first life? FACT: Now these is a valid question but it is worth noting that it has nothing to do with evolution and is in the realm of Abiogenesis, Evolution deals with the change of living things but has nothing to say about the first living thing, that being said, scientists are still working on a concrete descripition of Abiogenesis, but can you say that, yea God did it, and noone would bite you, but pushing scientific ignorance to the handiwork of God is not really Good Science, i believe in the next 50 years, we would solve this problem and even make life from ordinary chemistry in the lab. Well wanted to make this as short as possible, feel free to add your suggestions and if you want to ask questions, please ask with objectively and intelligently, if you think these is a load of crap, keep it to yourself... thanks 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by CoolUsername: 1:05pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
I don't know whether some people think that evolution happens like pokemon or something. But on a more serious note, this problem exists mostly because evolution is just glossed over in our secondary school curriculum. 2 Likes |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by donnffd(m): 1:49pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
CoolUsername: True talk, mostly because the teachers dont understand it themselves...and oh yea, ofcourse, the almighty religious beliefs 1 Like |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Oluwaseytiano(m): 1:58pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
"Evolution" mixes two things together, one
real, one imaginary. Variation (microevolution)
is the real part. The types of bird beaks, the
colors of moths, leg sizes, etc. are variation.
Each type and length of beak a finch can have
is already in the gene pool and adaptive
mechanisms of finches. Creationists have
always agreed that there is variation within
species. What evolutionists do not want you
to know is that there are strict limits to
variation that are never crossed , something
every breeder of animals or plants is aware of.
Whenever variation is pushed to extremes by
selective breeding (to get the most milk from
cows, sugar from beets, bristles on fruit flies,
or any other characteristic), the line becomes
sterile and dies out. And as one characteristic
increases, others diminish. But evolutionists
want you to believe that changes continue,
merging gradually into new kinds of creatures.
This is where the imaginary part of the theory
of evolution comes in. It says that new
information is added to the gene pool by
mutation and natural selection to create frogs
from fish, reptiles from frogs, and mammals
from reptiles, to name a few.
Do these big changes (macroevolution) really
happen? Evolutionists tell us we cannot see
evolution taking place because it happens too
slowly. A human generation takes about 20
years from birth to parenthood. They say it
took tens of thousands of generations to form
man from a common ancestor with the ape,
from populations of only hundreds or
thousands. We do not have these problems
with bacteria. A new generation of bacteria
grows in as short as 12 minutes or up to 24
hours or more, depending on the type of
bacteria and the environment, but typically 20
minutes to a few hours. There are more
bacteria in the world than there are grains of
sand on all of the beaches of the world (and
many grains of sand are covered with
bacteria). They exist in just about any
environment: hot, cold, dry, wet, high pressure,
low pressure, small groups, large colonies,
isolated, much food, little food, much oxygen,
no oxygen, in toxic chemicals, etc.
There is much variation in bacteria. There are
many mutations (in fact, evolutionists say
that smaller organisms have a faster mutation
rate than larger ones 17). But they never turn
into anything new. They always remain
bacteria. Fruit flies are much more complex
than already complex single-cell bacteria.
Scientists like to study them because a
generation (from egg to adult) takes only 9
days. In the lab, fruit flies are studied under
every conceivable condition. There is much
variation in fruit flies. There are many
mutations. But they never turn into anything
new. They always remain fruit flies. Many
years of study of countless generations of
bacteria and fruit flies all over the world
shows that evolution is not happening today. 1 Like |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Oluwaseytiano(m): 2:01pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Here is how the imaginary part is supposed to
happen: On rare occasions a mutation in DNA
improves a creature's ability to survive, so it is
more likely to reproduce (natural selection).
That is evolution's only tool for making new
creatures. It might even work if it took just
one gene to make and control one part. But
parts of living creatures are constructed of
intricate components with connections that all
need to be in place for the thing to work,
controlled by many genes that have to act in
the proper sequence. Natural selection would
not choose parts that did not have all their
components existing, in place, connected, and
regulated because the parts would not work.
Thus all the right mutations (and none of the
destructive ones) must happen at the same
time by pure chance. That is physically
impossible. To illustrate just how hopeless it
is, imagine this: on the ground are all the
materials needed to build a house (nails,
boards, shingles, windows, etc.). We tie a
hammer to the wagging tail of a dog and let
him wander about the work site for as long as
you please, even millions of years. The
swinging hammer on the dog is as likely to
build a house as mutation-natural selection is
to make a single new working part in an
animal, let alone a new creature.
Only mutations in the reproductive (germ)
cells of an animal or plant would be passed
on. Mutations in the eye or skin of an animal
would not matter. Mutations in DNA happen
fairly often, but most are repaired or
destroyed by mechanisms in animals and
plants. All known mutations in animal and
plant germ cells are neutral, harmful, or fatal.
But evolutionists are eternally optimistic. They
believe that millions of beneficial mutations
built every type of creature that ever existed.
Believing in beneficial mutations is like
believing a short-circuit in the motherboard of
your computer could improve its performance.
To make any lasting change, a beneficial
mutation would have to spread ("sweep" 
through a population and stay (become
"fixed". To evolutionists, this idea has been
essential for so long that it is called a "classic
sweep", "in which a new, strongly beneficial
mutation increases in frequency to fixation in
the population." Some evolutionist researchers
went looking for classic sweeps in humans,
and reported their findings in the journal
Science. "To evaluate the importance of
classic sweeps in shaping human diversity, we
analyzed resequencing data for 179 human
genomes from four populations". "In humans,
the effects of sweeps are expected to persist
for approximately 10,000 generations or about
250,000 years." Evolutionists had identified
"more than 2000 genes as potential targets of
positive selection in the human genome", and
they expected that "diversity patterns in about
10% of the human genome have been affected
by linkage to recent sweeps." So what did they
find? "In contrast to expectation," their test
detected nothing, but they could not quite
bring themselves to say it. They said there
was a "paucity of classic sweeps revealed by
our findings". Sweeps "were too infrequent
within the past 250,000 years to have had
discernible effects on genomic diversity."
"Classic sweeps were not a dominant mode of
human adaptation over the past 250,000
years."1 Like |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by johnydon22(m): 2:09pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
What exactly is the essence of posting this on the religion section? I don't recall evolution ever being a religious dogma or found in any religious books, so why is it here.. This should be in the science section where people can learn and discuss and argue extensively on the subject of "EVOLUTION THEORY" as a scientific discipline and not some form of tool to shadow or compete with religious myths.. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Oluwaseytiano(m): 2:10pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
The Theory of Evolution is not a scientific law
or a law of biology. A scientific law must be
100% correct.
Failure to meet only one challenge proves the
law is wrong. This article will prove that the
Theory of Evolution fails many challenges, not
simply one.
The Theory of Evolution will never become a
law of science because it is wrought with
errors. This is why it is still called a theory,
instead of a law. The process of natural
selection is not an evolutionary process.
The DNA in plants and animals allows
selective breeding to achieve desired results.
Dogs are a good example of selective
breeding. The DNA in all dogs has many
recessive traits.
A desired trait can be produced in dogs by
selecting dogs with a particular trait to
produce offspring with that trait. This
specialized selective breeding can continue for
generation after generation until a breed of
dog is developed. This is the same as the
"survival of the fittest" theory of the
evolutionists.
Many different types of dogs can be developed
this way, but they can never develop a cat by
selectively breeding dogs. Natural selection
can never extend outside of the DNA limit.
DNA cannot be changed into a new species by
natural selection. The same process of
selective breeding is done with flowers, fruits,
and vegetables.
New variations of the species are possible,
but a new species has never been developed
by science. In fact, the most modern
laboratories are unable to produce a left-hand
protein as found in humans and animals.
Evolutionist fail to admit that no species has
ever been proven to have evolved in any way.
Evolution is simply pie-in-the-sky conjecture
without scientific proof.
If natural selection were true, Eskimos would
have fur to keep warm, but they don't. They
are just as hairless as everyone else. If natural
selection were true, humans in the tropics
would have silver, reflective skin to help them
keep cool, but they don't. They have black
skin, just the opposite of what the theory of
natural selection would predict.
If natural selection were true humans at
northern latitudes would have black skin, but
they have white skin instead, except the
Eskimos who have skin that is halfway
between white and black. The people from
Russia and the Nordic countries have white
skin, blood hair and blue eyes. This is the
opposite of what one would predict if natural
selection controlled skin color.
Many evolutionists argue that melanin is a
natural sunscreen that evolved in a greater
amount to protect dark-skinned people who
live near the Equator. They simply ignore the
fact that dark-skinned Eskimos live north of
the Arctic Circle. Melanin in the skin is not a
sound argument in favor of evolution. Dark-
skinned people have always lived near the
Equator, not white-skinned people, even
though the dark skin is more uncomfortable in
the hot, sunny climate.
Black skin absorbs the heat from the sun's
rays more than white skin. Humans show no
sign of natural selection based on the
environment. The theory of natural selection is
wrong because it cannot create something in
the DNA that wasn't there in the beginning.
Animals like bears, tigers, lions, and zebras
living near the equator have heavy fur while
humans living north of the Artic Circle have
bare skin. A leopard from the jungle near the
equator has fur like the snow leopard of the
Himalayas.
The snow leopard grows thicker hair but the
jungle leopard would also if moved to a cold
climate. Horses and dogs grow a heavy winter
coat in colder climates. Natural selection isn't
working as falsely claimed by Charles Darwin.
The cheetah in Africa is an example of an
animal in the cat family with very limited
variety in the DNA. Each cheetah looks like an
identical twin. The cheetah DNA is so identical
that the skin from one cheetah can be grafted
into another cheetah without any rejection by
the body.
Evolution is a theory developed one hundred
and forty years ago by Charles Darwin (N/A
actually, by his grandfather in 1794 - before
Charles was even born), before science had
the evidence available to prove the theory
false.
His famous book,
, has a title that is
now known to be scientifically false. New
species cannot evolve by natural selection.
Modern scientific discoveries are proving
evolution to be impossible. No new scientific
discoveries have been found to support the
Theory of Evolution.
Life did not start with a bolt of lightning
striking a pond of water as claimed by the
main stream scientists.
Kids are taught that life can evolve given
enough time. This is a false statement without
any scientific support.
They are taught that if given enough time, a
monkey at a typewriter could punch keys at
random and eventually type President's
Abraham Lincoln Gettysburg Address. This is
nonsense.
Time does not make impossible things
possible. As an example, a computer was
programmed in an attempt to arrive at the
simple 26-letter alphabet. After
35,000,000,000,000 (35 trillion) attempts it
has only arrived at 14 letters correctly.
What are the odds that a simple single cell
organism could evolve given the complexity of
more than 60,000 proteins of 100 different
configurations all in the correct places? Never
in eternity! Time does not make impossible
things possible. (...) 1 Like |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Oluwaseytiano(m): 2:14pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
The Coelacanth fish was touted to be a
transitional form with half-formed legs and
primitive lungs, ready to transition onto land.
This myth was exploded in December, 1938
when a live Coelacanth was caught in a
fisherman's net off the eastern coast of South
Africa. It is now known that the natives of the
Comoro Islands had been catching and eating
the fish for years.
It did not have half-formed legs or primitive
lungs. It was simply a regular fish that people
thought was extinct. Evolutionist claimed the
350 million-year-old Coelacanth evolved into
animals with legs, feet, and lungs.
This not the case. We now see that the fish
recently caught is exactly like the 350 million-
year-old fossil. It did not evolve at all.
The Coelacanth is a star witness against the
false theory of evolution. After 350 million
years, the fish still doesn't have a leg to stand
on. |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Nobody: 2:18pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Evolution is still taking place and it is a very slow process. Our interaction with our environment,risk and threats determines how natural and artificial evolution takes place. Animals unlike humans have kept their thick skin as they are not yet inclined to make a replacement to combat the harsh climatic temperatures. Animals still eat their food raw as their body can easily withstand strong bacterial. However humans who used to be cannibals have adopted the art of cooking or roasting their meals. This would obviously reshape human digestive system. And not only that we have physiological evolution,civil evolution,mental evolution etc 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Oluwaseytiano(m): 2:28pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
ifeness:is dat so |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by hahn(m): 2:28pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22: Maybe the op is of the opinion that theists need a lecture on what evolution is all about since they always seem to use it to create an imaginary enemy against their beliefs and project it as an atheistic point of view plus if it was in the science section most of them won't read it. Hell, they hardly even read the bible  However, this should be in the science section. Knowledge can't be forced on anyone. Who are the mods around here? |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by johnydon22(m): 2:36pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
hahn:[b] Yes i agree 95% of people here both theists and atheists alike don't really understand the evolutionary mechanism neither have any of them read about the theory. They just smear it around from hearsay hewn from equally ignorable human beings that also have no idea what evolution is or what it proposes. To them it's just some kind of dogma devised to oppose religious myths. The Op was very good though, nice and beautifully articulate and very basic for simple folks. If one takes time to explain this scientific theory deeply most people will faint on you.. And the kind of questions many people ask on the subject is just like 2 year olds, in fact 2 year olds would do better. . . Sometimes i just slap my fore-head to get the stress out at how a human can be that dumb. I am not an evolutionist but that doesn't mean you shouldn't study it and learn it well as a scientific subject.. The thread might help inform a lot of people here about the theory but i still maintain it belongs in the science section.. [/b] 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by johnydon22(m): 2:42pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Oluwaseytiano: Word of advice sir, quite the copy and paste you have bathed this thread and for once employ your own reason in dealing with topics ... |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Nobody: 2:51pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
I wonder if this thread was to assure the op that his god exist. I think Santa might exist after all,since op has no clue how evolution is taking place. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by hahn(m): 2:56pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22: Same here |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by donnffd(m): 2:59pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Oluwaseytiano: are you trying to counter a point or something?  |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by HCpaul(m): 3:00pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
ifeness: A very slow process indeed. Since you've been in this world, show me a body that has been evolved. The evolution theory is just an expression of confusion about the creation. This can never satisfy the creation theory. But all the same, ifeness was once an evolved monkey. The funny aspect of it is that one of my monkey at home is currently evolving to a human. May be i will nickname him IFENESS TWIN. |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by donnffd(m): 3:01pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22: I think before you conclude, you try to get the intentions of the OP...just my opinion, and writing in bold like that is really not cool 1 Like |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Nobody: 3:03pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul: As much as I would love to reply and educate you better. Something tells me it will be a waste of time as your natural instinct is to troll and not pay attention to details. Instead I will get your medication |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by donnffd(m): 3:04pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
ifeness: I really dont understand your statement!, are you trying to say i was wrong,if that is it, then point me to where my mistake is and the right way, the all-knowing prof and whoever said anything about god existence |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by HCpaul(m): 3:05pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22: You mean a religious myth like me right? You want christians to believe in the evolution theory that you preach about, yet in your entire life you have never witness an experience before. The evolution concepts is an imaginary history of the past. Jonnydon was an evolved monkey. |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by johnydon22(m): 3:08pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
donnffd: Oh i really understand the Op but i am afraid it will pass the wrong message to religious minds. Posting it on this section will give them the impression it is an opposition on their religious dogma. My suggestion of the "science section" is because as a scientific topic, it would be better received and you will get a better discussion .. Someone is already saying it can't satisfy the creation myth, affirming my opinion here.. You can only get religious minds who will see it as a threat to their dogma and their myths. . . Do not hope to get a better discussion or intellectual argument over such topics here.. Have fun tho 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by johnydon22(m): 3:09pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul: donnffd you see what i mean? HCpaul you really need help, your cognitive ability is really in a sorry state.. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Nobody: 3:10pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
donnffd: Like I said,I was "wondering" You cannot assume monkeys will become humans,however you can say humans and monkeys are close relatives. I love science,however I think science should look beyond this planet for clues of the evolution of all forms of life on the planet. I am not referring to a god,but possible migration of bacterial,different DNA that seeded the plant some billions of years ago. I wouldn't be surprised the warm holes have a huge part to play. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by HCpaul(m): 3:11pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
ifeness: And you think that the best way to educate me is to source out a supestitious details of the world creation coined evolution... Never will we christians belief. Ok... Show me an evidence and i will belief the evolution theory. |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by hahn(m): 3:13pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul: @bolded, are YOU a religious myth? |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by HCpaul(m): 3:13pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22: Ok... Show me an evidence and i will belief the evolution theory. |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by Nobody: 3:14pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul: How do you explain a god creating the world in 6 days? What can be more superstitious than that? The absence of knowledge shouldn't be filled by god. That is a medieval reasoning. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by donnffd(m): 3:14pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22: i understand, my mistake |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by HCpaul(m): 3:15pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
hahn:Are you a christian? I just need to know before i offend you. |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by donnffd(m): 3:16pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
ifeness: Who assumed monkeys will become humans ?, Are you sure you read the post, please go read it again, i never said monkeys will become humans, i believe my exact words were "Chimps are our closest cousins"... |
| Re: The Myths Of Evolution Debunked by hahn(m): 3:17pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul: Ogbeni, answer my question joor and stop replying a question with a question. Weren't you taught how to hold a civilized discussion? |
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