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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 6:07pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Katsumoto: They should make an effort to care, irorun igi ni irorun eiye, If the economy is sound, their constituents who beg them for One one naira & hold them to ransom against their next election... I walk my talk, if we need to take it out of here, I'm game. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 6:19pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Katsumoto: We are simply dancing around the root cause. The Nigerian State. The last election was not about looking for a better Fashola but about preventing Bode George( who derives all his power to challenge for the seat from the FG) from seizing Lagos. Tell me what progress you want to make from the bunch of criminals in the legislature. Look at Kogi. Their elections is between a criminal incompetent and a criminal incompetent. Meanwhile,some of our people have to endure that pain. the legislature is not fit for purpose. All the SW reps owe their loyalty to those who put them there. It is definitely not their prerogative. Nigeria will definitely not become a better country. Fulani attacked 20 communities in Kogi just 2 days ago. Same way Sudan started until it became full blown. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 6:47pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Standing, chanting, with his hands clenched on the Opa Obata is the Olori Eyo of Lagos, Chief Kabiru Adesina Oshodi 2 Likes
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Gbawe: 6:56pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
superstar1: Indeed. How long, for example, before the FG delivers adequate power supply? Even the current power "privatisation" was a scam. I remember Fashola making a comment that the FG will not do what it should do yet it is us (govenors) the people blame for everything. It is tiring sha. There are some non-negotiable essentials (power supply for example) that are the crucial system between a thriving SME sector and a moribund one yet the FG has failed to deliver these non-negotiable essentials to the detriment of Nigeria. I have seen many curse Governors on this site for lack of power and I had to shame my head. Governors must do more but at this point in time the FG will have to ensure, once and for all, it teaches them to fish. I have travelled vastly across Africa and have not seen the energy of Nigerians elsewhere else !!! The FG, once and for all, should simply go all out to destroy the cabal keeping us down and put in place the most important 'enablers' (power, rail, SME development, optimal and commercial mining of solid minerals et al) that will assist a people who are naturally energetic and hard-working to do the rest for themselves. Anywhere you go, Nigerians are always likely to be the African most keen to be their own boss and set up businesses . At home we are frustrated immensely by problems other nation overcame a 100 years ago. Pathetic really. In the grand scheme of things, governors can do a lot, and i am not making excuses for them, but the onus of developing Nigeria or even their own States as optimally as possible, and not development that can be reversed tomorrow because of falling oil prices, falls more on the FG because the 'essentials' that develop nations, plus keep them thriving and successful, are the preserve of the Nigerian FG and it is time we insist they deliver them so we can then see which leaders, at State level, are delivering and note those who are worthless. For example, if our SME sector was thriving and catering for 60% of the employment needs of Nigeria then why would some governors be in a position of spending so much, to the detriment of the state, on the wages of civil servant who would naturally be employed by the SME sector? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:06pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
oduastates: No. They're not. Dangerous neighborhoods are neglected and ignored (i.e minority neighborhoods). Tourist neighborhoods (for the sake of revenues) have a standard quantity of police enforcement. Please, let's not utopia-lize America. If not because they control the media, you'd realize that America is akin to a war-torn zone when it comes to police enforcement. Not to say that I don't agree with you. We do need state and/or region controlled security. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:10pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
superstar1: Like oduastates suggested, we don't need Awo. We need ourselves. USA doesn't need G. Washington nor do they need Ben Franklin. We need ourselves and we need to let our leaders know what we need. I think we need to take a bottom-up approach to revitalize Yorubaland: starting from the people to the people's leaders. Hope is never lost. It took Japan less than 15years to build a developed nation out of its people. We can do it; all we need is encouragement and a culture of hardworking mentality. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 7:10pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Ibebe: Well, I will like the yoruba country to become like the American war zone. 2 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:12pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
PrincessJaneDoe: Yes. You know what just came to my mind? Since most of the best Unis are in the SW, why can't we tax more students from other states for tuition fees; out-of-state[region] tuition. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 7:12pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Try build a society on this. In the last month NO fewer than 22 persons, including women and children were feared killed when suspected Fulani herdsmen in the early hours of Monday, attacked nine communities in Dekina Local Council of Kogi State. The murder of a villager in Egede community in the Udi Local Council of Enugu State by suspected Fulani herdsmen has heightened tension in the area as village leaders move in to forestall reprisal attacks. It was tears, sorrow and gnashing of teeth when the body of 37-year-old Nanmwa Bongdul, who was murdered when some Fulani herdsmen attacked the Kwata community in Zawan, Jos, the capital of Plateau State, was laid to rest in his home town of Nban, Langtang North Local Government Area of the state. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:13pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
modath: Yep. Everything is systematically organized in the USA, including racism. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:15pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
oduastates: oduastates: Hahha I get your point. For any society to be developed and safe, Fulani herdsmen need to be restricted to a concentration camp. I don't know if those people are even humans. Take the Fulanis and their almajiris out of the South and we've got a developing region. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Musiwa419: 7:16pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
IyaIode:What is the meaning of special status ? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by jstbeinhonest(m): 7:19pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Ibebe: The best Unis in d SW are Federal Unis.They are belong to all nigerians.....constitutionally. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 7:20pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Ibebe: I am not saying anyone should be restricted to concentratiin camp. I like your optimism but we need a reality check here. In spite of my misgivings, that is why I think the likes of odumakin, mimiko, afenifere are necessary to put the tinubus in check before we plunge too deep. I am saying that Nigeria lacks the barest minimum of factors required for a stable, prosperous country. That Nigeria is a failed state. That the rot is irreversible. The country is doomed. Without exaggeration, that the country is already like Sudan of the 90's even if those inside it cannot perceive. That our leaders should start the process of disengaging from the mess. Right now, yorubaland is like a huge refugee camp. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:21pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Here are some images I designed yesterday. I will design more. I will not let them get buried. It's because we don't know what is possible, that's why we don't agitate for their potential. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by superstar1(m): 7:21pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Ibebe: I was not calling for Awo, but for people with Awo's like selfless spirit. Awo is long gone, but the tenets and principles that made him a success are attributes that should be emulated by would-be leaders as a minimum acceptable standard. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:22pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
yassss 1 Like
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Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:22pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
^^^ Like Oduastates states, these are only possible where security is tight and reliable. We need regionalism or state police. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by jstbeinhonest(m): 7:23pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
oduastates: Nigeria is FAILING as a state,Nigeria is not a failed state. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Nobody: 7:24pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Musiwa419:Lagos chose to fight for special allocation over regionalism. Ondo didn't want to lose its own 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:25pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
superstar1: Ok, sounds better. We need leaders who are not selfish and who speaks out against Northern Oligarchy. No, we don't need the likes of FFK and Fayose who speaks out only for their own selfish /party interests. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by jstbeinhonest(m): 7:26pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Ibebe: Woah,Try to get this across to those govs,esp ur state govt,anything can happen. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:30pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
oduastates:Well I am. They need to be restricted to the North [concentration camp] In spite of my misgivings, that is why I think the likes of odumakin, mimiko, afenifere are necessary to put the tinubus in check before we plunge too deep. You accurately described Yorubaland right now. Everyone is trooping to Yorubaland from every corner, it's even worse in Lagos. We're being overburdened with people and low resources to control them. I disagree with jstbeinhonest. Nigeria is a FAILED state. Give it 50 more years when the ND oil dries, then we'll know how deep we've dug ourselves. 3 Likes |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:32pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
jstbeinhonest: To the Gov? They'll roll their eyes and throw me out. We need to show the people so that they can tax their gov to build them a nation of their worth. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by modath(f): 7:35pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Ibebe: Ibebe, are you talking about utopia or a STATE in NIGERIA ?? Fashola deported Non Yoruba layabouts & his YORUBA kith & kin used it as cheap political tool against him.. Just pause for a moment to think of Ogun state University lmposing a "non indigene" levy on an ondo statr indigenious student, IT CAN'T EVER END WELL. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Ibebe: 7:37pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
modath: I thought about that, that's why I had [region] in a bracket. Out of Region tuition Don't mind that omo ale agbaje..... another afonja in our midst. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 7:40pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
modath: It makes no sense because we have a symbiotic relationships between the homeland states. There are thousands of ogun students in osun, lagos, Ondo and ekiti. This is different from the parasitic relationship with other regions apart from the Niger - delta who earn their keep. |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 7:40pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
superstar1: I think it's always better to read the background story before blaming Lagos for demanding special status. When they were preparing for the lousy confab that was more of an owanbe party than anything worth taking seriously, they never included anyone from Lagos. Perhaps due to the disagreements those representing Yorubas, who're also part of the PDP have with Tinubu who built his empire in Lagos. They only got those from Lagos involved at the last minute after protests. Obviously, what do you expect those you never carried along to demand? I can't speak for Ondo...but you can't blame those from Lagos for demanding something else. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 7:41pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
PrincessJaneDoe: With the recurrent expenditure that's already running these states into the ground - how are you going to finance state policing? |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 7:49pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
Shymm3x: That special status thing is the reason why I referred to the tinubu's clique as transient leaders of the times. Imagine someone demanding to for special status from a beggar who is spending his money. That is weak. Very very very weak. However I know the political reason why they rejected regionalism and the entire national conference. To put it simply, Jonathan set up that conference to break the APC Coalition. Especially to cause friction between the SW and the north based on that issue. Any weakness in the chunk of APC's armor would have been slam dunk for Jonathan. Since Jonathan, his crew and the neo - facist ethnic agenda they were pushing, were the clear and present danger, it became politically expedient to keep the coalition at the expense of every other thing. 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by Shymm3x: 7:56pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
oduastates: That's what happens in a divided house. Hence they went to the conference as a divided house, demanding different things. And these are supposed to be Yoruba leaders. The Yoruba committee included, Itsekiris, Okun Yorubas, Igbominas, and all other Yorubas - apart from the ones from Lagos, just cos of one man. What type of madness is that? Yet everyone is talking about Lagos demanding "special status". Why won't they do that? Is Tinubu is even from Lagos? Why you start playing divisive politics of exclusion over trivial things at an event as inconsequential as that - then you know there's a big problem. Lagos indigenes protest exclusion from Yoruba confab 1 Like |
Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by oduastates: 8:02pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
The thing is Jonathan did not give a hoot about the conference or any other conference. What he cared about was power and he had already given assurances to the north that nothing would come out of it. He hand-picked 51% of the delegates and beyond creating extra beggar states, the entire conference was about what more the SW will give, what less the Niger -delta will give and what more the South East will gain. The entire conference was to checkmate the SW and its outcome was a poison chalice to the yoruba country. Imagine that the conference granted indigenous rights to non -indigens in a senseless tribal state like Nigeria. Even without those right some are already flexing muscles. I sm tired of trying to manage relationships and be competing for scarce resources /power with hostile tribes. It is the same stupppiddd thing the yoruba leaders have been doing since independence. The only people who argue against this are those benefitting from the rot. We have written about yoruba achievers in the diaspora. Try bring up the issue of Nigeria with any of those folks and they will shut you down immediately. Most would rather not be associated with the country. For example West Indians like many Jamaican artists are always eager to throw their West Indians heritage in your face. They are proud of it because they have something to rally around The same can not be said of Yoruba diaspora because of the extreme shame associated with the country. 1 Like |
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