jln115:

Dude I could post the specs.... But it will be a waste of my time.

You have no specs to post, you cannot prove your claims of being better. Cool.

Our LAV is as good as yours.

Patchesagain:


No you didnt

You got busted!!

Yes I did, the photo is from Proforce website, same as the UN painted white LAV.

Busted? How? By posting from Proforce website? http://www.proforcedefence.com/picgallery/index.html

agaugust:


I posted from Proforce website, I did not post a cobra APC http://www.proforcedefence.com/picgallery/index.html

Yes you did and you never posted the this link in your previous post.

You tried to deceive us by clearly posting a photo shopped pic of the Cobra. There's also no
edited Corbra pic on Proforce site so
its clear as daylight who posted it.

snydergp1st:


Those two junks you've posted are better in quality compared to what SA made LAV.

How many of those junks did the UN buy.

LOL....United Nations dont buy junk equipment, they buy NATO standard. Nigeria has penetrated the arms export market, now we are competing with you ! We will soon overtake you like we did with GDP.....LOL....eny is hurting you real bad. Go ask UN how many they bought, its none of my business. Fact is that UN is now buying proudly made in Nigeria defence products, deal with it.

[size=32pt]Nigerians don't make noise. [/size]


Another UAV from a different company


Vehicles (UAV- Drones)

The utility of Proforce' Un-manned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) will be felt after the first phase of its launch as they are classified as man-packable and easily deployable for over-the-hill aerial intelligence in any environment.

The Ade-Predator 001 in its operation brings secured and simultaneous tactical situational awareness to ground forces and remote command. Our UAVs operate based on the Vertical Take-Off and Landing(VTOL) flight; therefore it enables fixed hover for precise observation with low-risk retrieval on land or ship.

Proforce UAV platform brings the world of aerial intelligence directly to ground troops. With an excellent user-interface any soldier can easily become an expert in tactical surveillance gathering.

Our UAVs fly beyond a sight and see what is happening anywhere, with an endurance of up to an hour in air. However, night time flying is possible anywhere with thermal or infra-red imaging system.

Proforce UAVs are suitable for quick emergency and disaster response with mission payload, data links and ground control system.

snydergp1st:


Yes you did and you never posted the this link in your previous post.

You tried to deceive us by clearly posting a photo shopped pic of the Cobra. There's also no
edited Corbra pic on Proforce site so
its clear as daylight who posted it.

It is not.

iblawi:
[size=32pt]Nigerians don't make noise. [/size]


Another UAV from a different company


Vehicles (UAV- Drones)

The utility of Proforce' Un-manned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) will be felt after the first phase of its launch as they are classified as man-packable and easily deployable for over-the-hill aerial intelligence in any environment.

The Ade-Predator 001 in its operation brings secured and simultaneous tactical situational awareness to ground forces and remote command. Our UAVs operate based on the Vertical Take-Off and Landing(VTOL) flight; therefore it enables fixed hover for precise observation with low-risk retrieval on land or ship.

Proforce UAV platform brings the world of aerial intelligence directly to ground troops. With an excellent user-interface any soldier can easily become an expert in tactical surveillance gathering.

Our UAVs fly beyond a sight and see what is happening anywhere, with an endurance of up to an hour in air. However, night time flying is possible anywhere with thermal or infra-red imaging system.

Proforce UAVs are suitable for quick emergency and disaster response with mission payload, data links and ground control system.

Beautiful!!

snydergp1st:


Yes you did and you never posted the this link in your previous post.

You tried to deceive us by clearly posting a photo shopped pic of the Cobra.

There's also no edited Corbra pic on Proforce site so its clear as daylight who posted it.

How did I deceive anyone? Do I own the photo?

I said from my first post that is is built by proforce, I dont own the photo, its copied directly from proforce website

http://www.proforcedefence.com/picgallery/index.html

If you have any problem with the photo, you can go fight them at proforce office.

You say the photo is not on proforce website? Its number 28 of the 55 photos gallery. You must have been born with cataract in your two eyes
.

agaugust:


LOL....United Nations dont buy junk equipment, they buy NATO standard. Nigeria has penetrated the arms export market, now we are competing with you ! We will soon overtake you like we did with GDP.....LOL....eny is hurting you real bad. Go ask UN how many they bought, its none of my business. Fact is that UN is now buying proudly made in Nigeria defence products, deal with it.

Don't try change the topic here or do you think I'm a f.ool.

Since when has Nato standard become the benchmark for selling second grade LAV's.

Show me which Nato country Proforce or Dicon export any of military grade equipment to?

Competing with who and to what level or standards?

What does GDP have to do with this topic we are discussing presently?

Why should I go ask the UN, because I never saw a single Proforce LAV deployed in Goma or Sudan in the past year.

Do you mean the UN is buying more Augubugu photo shopped Nigeria defense products.

Henry240:


It is not.

Henry please for once let us not deceive ourselves here, we both can see clearly that the photo was photo shopped. There's also no such pic in the Proforce gallery so whose f.ooling who here.

Why is the back ground of both pics exactly the same, can you explain it to me?


Let's make a deal post the very same pics on your thread and allow the non SA and Nigerian posters tell us what there opinion is of the two pictures.

agaugust:


How did I deceive anyone? Do I own the photo?

I said from my first post that is is built by proforce, I dont own the photo, its copied directly from proforce website

http://www.proforcedefence.com/picgallery/index.html

If you have any problem with the photo, you can go fight them at proforce office.

You say the photo is not on proforce website? Its number 28 of the 55 photos gallery. You must have been born with cataract in your two eyes
.

I'm done with you on this one the argument is over.

The pic is photo shopped.

agaugust:


I posted from Proforce website, I did not post a cobra APC http://www.proforcedefence.com/picgallery/index.html

You posted this:.......This if you didnt know is a Otokar Cobra, and its manufactured in Turkey.

agaugust:


You have no specs to post, you cannot prove your claims of being better. Cool.

Our LAV is as good as yours.

So your LAV(Pic 2) is as good as ours(Pic 1)?? Cool story Bro!!

snydergp1st:


Henry please for once let us not deceive ourselves here, we both can see clearly that the photo was photo shopped. There's also no such pic in the Proforce gallery so whose f.ooling who here.

Why is the back ground of both pics exactly the same, can you explain it to me?


Let's make a deal post the very same pics on your thread and allow the non SA and Nigerian posters tell us what there opinion is of the two pictures.

The error comes from the company, not Agaugust. The image is image 28 in their picture gallery.


The Vehicle the company is currently developing is also in that photo-gallery. Nobody is trying to fool anybody, at-least not in this thread or mine.

Patchesagain:


No, I can see a digital surveillance system.

So apart from the fact that you are talking about the Navy when we are talking about land operations... what evidence is there of net-centric warfare capabilities?

Dude, you arent even on the same page here.

And again, go look up the definition of C2 - a general and a radio constitute C2.

You are an iidiot!

The surveillance system is only a part of the Nigerian Navy's wider Regional maritime capability initiative.

Patchesagain:


Lynx is armed - .50 HMG
Valour Class has ASW (Thales UMS4132 Kingklip sonar) as well as 4 324 mm torp tubes.

So no, you do not educate us.

You are the one throwing insults buddy, empty ones at that.

We are simply pointing out that Henry120 is mistaken when he proudly boasts "we didnt learn nuffing"

And you accuse me of de-railing the thread? let my remind you of who is responsible:








I said in a post a while back: Lets move on.

But you boys refused (see posts today by Augustus and Henry120)

Yes, the Nigerian military did not learn anything new it did not previously know. Amani Africa II in terms of training, for a country like Nigeria, was only a Jamboree, a Carnival.



We did not learn anything.


I mean, the tactics employed by the SANDF as well as the tiny nations who joined the ACIRC are from the 70s. Those tactics have no place in today's battle field..

Msauza:

The English and broke away from Nigeria seven years after independence and Nigeria used imperialist forces to reclaim it.
#BiafraMustComeBack. The Igboland our treasure. Our promised land Canaan.

You know not what you speak of.
Your leader,ojukwu,fled to cote d'ivoire after losing the succession war,leaving behind a disillusioned army of rebels and a starved nation; that tells you the calibre of leaders that propagated the dubious idea of a sovereign state of biafra.If he had stood his ground and perhaps,even died for his cause(like hitler,napoleon and others did),he would have been a matyr and biafra would have been in existence today.
As it is,60% of educated igbo people do not want biafra; they understand that succeding from Nigeria would only spark another vicious cycle of socio-political flunctuations range from the military occassionally seizing power to greedy politicians inciting violence between minority clans.
Biafra would have to relearn democracy.

Msauza:

The English and broke away from Nigeria seven years after independence and Nigeria used imperialist forces to reclaim it.

#BiafraMustComeBack. The Igboland our treasure. Our promised land Canaan.

Biafra indeed.

To the South-Africans,
What does your Chaka system do?


Here is what we (I) (Nigerians) know it does.
"Chaka which will enable a commander with situational awareness to electronically plan, send and control the execution of operations."

snydergp1st:




Why should I go ask the UN, because I never saw a single Proforce LAV deployed in Goma or Sudan in the past year.

Do you mean the UN is buying more Augubugu photo shopped Nigeria defense products.

-Nigerian Proforce LAVs are used by the Rwandan police in the Central African Republic, "you remember this country right?"...... Same country SANDF special forces conspicuously ran away from after getting beaten blue-black.


- Proforce LAVs were also delivered to South-Sudan, but i do not know the country that ordered it, probably Rwanda.

Henry240:
To the South-Africans,

What does your Chaka system do?



Here is what we (I) (Nigerians) know it does.

"Chaka which will enable a commander with
situational awareness to electronically plan, send and
control the execution of operations."

I wish they could say something different from what you coated. Their is absolutely nothing special about them. dull brains.

Henry240:






Yes, the Nigerian military did not learn anything new it did not previously know. Amani Africa II in terms of training, for a country like Nigeria, was only a Jamboree, a Carnival.



We did not learn anything.


I mean, the tactics employed by the SANDF as well as the tiny nations who joined the ACIRC are from the 70s. Those tactics have no place in today's battle field..

What tactics did they use in the 70s....name them!! And if you have so much knowledge on what exercises were held at Amani ii why are we not hearing any complaints from any of the participating countries, including Nigeria......Obviously the military commanders have to have at least the same amount of military related knowledge than you!!! If you are pointing out faults in the exercises, why cant the other commanders who were there?

jln115:

What tactics did they use in the 70s....name them!! And if you have so much knowledge on what exercises were held at Amani ii[b]why are we not hearing any complaints from any of the participating countries, including Nigeria[/b]Obviously the military commanders have to have at least the same amount of military related knowledge than you!!! If you are pointing out faults in the exercises, why cant the other commanders who were there?

-Do you live in Africa?

- Are you sure you are African?

- Ever heard of African family values/Respect?

" You don't visit a man in his house in Africa and insult his wife's cooking".

Henry240:


-Do you live in Africa?

- Are you sure you are African?

- Ever heard of African family values/Respect?

" You don't visit a man in his house in Africa and insult his wife's cooking".

So you are comparing EXTREMELY important military exercises to household values? The success of the ASF is almost entirely depended on Ex Amani Africa......If there was something lack regarding the exercises, someone would've highlighted it.

iblawi:
http://www.army-technology.com/news/newssouth-african-army-to-test-chaka-c2-system

Whats this supposed to be?

iblawi:


I wish they could say something different from what you coated. Their is absolutely nothing special about them. dull brains.

What do want us to say? In its simplest definition thats what the Chaka system does.

jln115:

Whats this supposed to be?

It means your almighty Chaka is not even as good as what we have.

iblawi:


It means your almighty Chaka is not even as good as what we have.

Huh?? And how did you get that out of your 4 year old 2 paragraph source?

iblawi:


It means your almighty Chaka is not even as good as what we have.

It is not as good as what the Navy has, it is not even as good as what the Airforce has.


Yet they...... These Saffers, won't left us rest.

jln115:

Huh?? And how did you get that out of your 4 year old 2 paragraph source?

Each of those pics speak more than a thousand words.

Compare it with this nonsense

iblawi:

Each of those pics speak more than a thousand words.

Compare it with this nonsense

"The CHAKA Blue Force Tracking system is a GPSenabled
system that provides military commanders
and forces with location information about own military
forces. The system provides a common picture of the
location of friendly forces and therefore is referred to
as the “Blue Force” tracker. The system is currently
utilized by the SA National Defence Force.
The CHAKA Blue Force Tracking system can track
land, air and maritime assets as the user requirements
and specifications ensured that this is obtainable.
The system consists of a CHAKA software enabled
computer, used to display location information, a
satellite terminal and satellite antenna, used to transmit
and receive location and other military data, a Global
Positioning System receiver (to determine its own
position) and mapping software, in the form of a
Geographic Information System (GIS), that plots the
BFT device on a map. The system displays the
location of the deployed Blue Force Tracking units on
the computer’s terrain-map display in their respective
locations. The Blue Force Tracking unit continually
transmits its own location over the encrypted network.
The CHAKA software enabled computer then
monitors the location and progress of own forces
and consolidate the data into a common operational
picture, or COP."

"BattleTek IV supports war simulation exercises
and training on the tactical and operational level of
command. The system helps to improve Leadership
competencies and to practice the “Art of War”.
The objectives of simulations are to exercise:
• Combat decision making on a tactical level.
• Functioning and execution of C² measures.
• Planning and execution of Staff and HQ
procedures.
• Execution of battle control.
The BattleTek IV system provides comprehensive
simulation support in terms of land, air and naval
based warfare and conflict activities. The system
is flexible in application and easy to maintain or
expand. It utilises standard hardware components,
infrastructure and IT equipment.
BattleTek IV may also be used to evaluate and test
plans and decision support, and to test and improve
Standard Operational Procedures (SOPs), doctrine
and procedures.
As it is WISE compliant it can be used as an
exercise or scenario stimulator for HLA, MIP and
DIS compliant systems. This supports the mantra:
“Train as you Fight and Fight as you Train”.
BattleTek IV caters for Multi Player, Multi Forces
(Red, Blue and Neutral) and has a comprehensive
After Action Review capability. It is scalable
(supports 200 clients and can easily support
up to 15 000 entities) has a fully integrated
Geographic Information System (GIS) functionality
with 2D map view."