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Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by ZYZZA: 4:11pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
sisqonite:The Quran: Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al- Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az- Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran ) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did ). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l- m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief. |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by marlockj: 4:11pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
onosprince: Islam is not good,you are saying another thing. Every average aboki have a short knife with them. Guy Dnt b deceived 1 Like |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Ogirinaz(m): 4:11pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Hmmmm, always drive fun in exaggerating. i just downloaded the videos, i could where any person under duress to recite the holy Qur'an or been set free after reciting any holy book. Pls lets be mindful of what we pos on social network. 1 Like |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by calaway: 4:12pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
sisqonite: stop mentioning JESUS. you fooool Our savior is alive, he is not a man like your mohamed that he will die and be dust. 1 Like |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by VickyRotex(f): 4:12pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
rigarmortis: If you understood what I wrote up there, you wouldn't be asking me this question. I repeat, Terrorism shouldn't be linked to any religion. This is what my dictionary tells me about Terrorism. "Terrorism is the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives." So tell me, was any particular religion mentioned there? Btw, I'm a Christian! |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by bluaero(m): 4:12pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
mujaya1: Idiot. Shut the bleep up and let me educate you. Gun powder was invented in China by accident. The Arabs (Muslims ) were the first to use it to kill others. Mumu. |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by sisqonite: 4:12pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
vodkat: In other words, they start fighting Saudi when Israel is bombing Palestine and nobody's saying nothing? ....we love you still brothers |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by haywire07(m): 4:13pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Please is the hostage situation still live or the situation is over? |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by IYANGBALI: 4:13pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
ElCapone:this one na revised standard version abandoned by all muslims |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by pedro4hope(m): 4:15pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Why always ISLAM? 2 Likes |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Excellentmind: 4:15pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
dejisakin: Don't be deceived, Islam must be destroyed for the world to have peace. |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by nellyelitz(m): 4:15pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
sisqonite:no, you're doing exactly that! Do those people you mentioned destroy lives? Mention the atrocities they've committed and I'll sing to you carnage Islamic terrorists are causing the world. Meanwhile, are you not aware of guy mosques all over the world? |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by sisqonite: 4:17pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
bluaero: In Hiroshima and Nagasaki? u tried in ur history exam gannn ni o So in all the whole accusation it's only gun power you can defend? Mention any of the Islamic country that controls nuke (and proven, not the ghost chase in Iraq) or manufactures arms on the large scale to the extent that it makes up 70% of its foreign income? |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by mike404(m): 4:18pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
CHAI I MISSED THIS THREAD SHA |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by free2ryhme: 4:19pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
amjoseph19:You want to learn a language of terrorist 1 Like |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Whymee: 4:24pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
You found yourself in a hostage situation with a terrorist and you we're asked to recite the qurian and go.This is a miracle. Why the noise, this is the perspective the Christians who view it the reverse case, I.e. if bible verses were ask to be recited by the terrorist. ...a case of accident victim came to mind. He was the only survivor out of the 40 passenger. Christians claimed he survived because his tore cloth create a cross sign. What an irony of life. |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by uzo4real(m): 4:27pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Wish Abraham didn't *** with Hagar, Ishmael and this evil Islam wldnt have come into existence.... TERRIBLE!!! |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by farem: 4:28pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
SenatePresdo: Question for 70 virgins |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by honeywealth75(m): 4:29pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Lahnatu Laahi Aleiki. Foolish brat. ihatebuhari: |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by parisbookaddict(f): 4:29pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
ABIOLAXYZ: Nobody needs islamic allahs forgiveness. .he was mohammeds invention. . ■"Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are harsh to the unbelievers but merciful to one another" Quran 48:29 1 Like |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by ransomed: 4:30pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
rahymat:::- This also buttres what is happening right now. ISIS, AL QAEDA, AL SHABAB, AL NUSRA, AL SAR'DIN ,BOKO HARAM Kill unharmed innocents all over the world who never fought with them?. Are you saying God cannot fight for Himself? Why must you fight for God and go on suicide mission terminating innocent souls. Is your God not having room for forgiveness? There will be peace all over the world the day Islamic terrorists stop their heinous activities against humanity. Thanks. |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by parisbookaddict(f): 4:32pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
sisqonite: Pakistan the bigot intolerant islamic country has nukes.. |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by buJu234: 4:33pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
amjoseph19: Thank u.. lets b real if Mohammed actions were to be interpreted into today`s world; he would have been called a REBEL(for waging war against his country mecca); TERRORIST( for killing the Medina Jews etc); Highway robber (for attacking traders & collecting their goods); RAPISTS (for taking other men`s wife); Dangerous Polygamists (for marry alot of women); Pedophile( for marrying a 9yrs old) etc ISIS & the other Islamists like the Salafis assuming they were in Mohammed days; their names would have been written in the Koran that they will make paradise and that others should emulate them with questioning. if u doubt it; plx read the Koran & Mohammed history. at least the HISTORY OF ISLAM movie we normally watch on Edie fidtri holiday is a good point of reference. So today`s muslims pls think and ask reasonable question of ISLAM; NOT THIS CONVERT OR DIE bombing everyday & every where 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by angiography(m): 4:33pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
mujaya1:Terrorist alert |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Nobody: 4:34pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Booyakasha:seriously... islam is a religion of war and nt peace... Bleep it 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by vodkat: 4:34pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
sisqonite: here you guys go calling palestine in everything, you will not talk or do anything about the killing of africans in nigeria by islamists -what did this nigerians do. palenstians are boko haramists looking for land to culvated their virus called islam. All motivated by greed and land grabbing ideology neo arab colonialism cultural expansion program just like they want to do in africa and in the world. Even though the arab man will always choose a white man over a black man in everything. the black man will shout palestine bla bla bla. We lost our Egyptian pyramid heritage to this blood sucking demons. My brother shine ur eyes, this is the truth told to me by arabs themselves This islamists are always the first to look for trouble and when u hit them back they start crying. Only Russia LONE CAN destroy the middle east but because of the humanitarian disater it refuses to do so. Just take what is happening at home for eg Nigeria army is fighting back againhst boko haram who in their neo arab colonialism cultural expansion program is claming that a part of nigeria belongs to dem. IF not for what happened in Nigeria with boko haram many ppl will still be gullible Palestine problem is an islamic problem motivated by greed Look at nigeria vs cameroon over bakassi if islam was in that equation the blood bath would be like an ocean But what annoys me is that u are looking to the land of your mental masters more than wher God placed u |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by rigarmortis: 4:36pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
VickyRotex: You are talking plenty but saying nothing. So if muslims use terror as a tool against governments, or segments of the society to intimidate people in furtherance of their political objectives which could go from wanting to create an islamic state to protesting the election of a non muslim and socially which could go from their hardline stance on women freedom to forcing women to cover their hair and other factors, even against their wishes, to stoning of female adulterers, not rape cases mind you, i mean two consenting adults. All the above come with a religious undertone, and the religion is question is islam, so what do you call a muslim who wants to further the cause of allah by doing all these? A terrorist?....yes.....but since terrorism cuts across many factors, political, religious etc and religion has many kinds, islam, xtian, budhism, the use of muslim terrorist aptly describe these people. Okocha was a sportsman, if you say that to someone who doesnt know okocha, you leave him guessing wildly, but if you say, okocha is a footballer, you are telling him he is a sportsman whose specialism is soccer. 3 Likes |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Xbee007(m): 4:39pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
calaway:Shut up gay!!! |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by mindtricks: 4:40pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
Booyakasha: Bros, its not Islam. its the wrong interpretation of Islam that is the problem. |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Xbee007(m): 4:40pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
calaway:Shut up gay*ot!!! |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by Xbee007(m): 4:41pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
calaway:Shut up Idiot!!! |
Re: Mali's Hotel Attack; Terrorist Freeing Those Who Could Recite The Quran. by uzoonyx: 4:44pm On Nov 20, 2015 |
But why is it so contradictory in reference to the previous Quran quotation ElCapone: |
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