My time difference between continents, coupled with two pressing projects is in the way of my need to participate in here more regularly. I do want to leave some inputs on the table, in line with other important issues we are collecting for deliberation.

First before going into the topics I do want to remind and encourage my brothers and sisters about the cosmic powers potent in numerical numbers "twos" and "threes". Im not asking for you to practice esoteric beliefs but it is useful to be spiritually awake to energy. They do wonders and help open the psyche to things that ordinarily would be impercetible otherwise.

In history, Yorubaland is a land of twos and threes. I will leave it at that and Im sure those who know more and take it as a daily practice would be able to add or elaborate if necessary.

Now, taking a deep dive into mundane issues.
Ori gbe mi leke!

For simplicity here I am breaking a model society into a three-tiered production groups:

1. Those enrolled as students (full time or part time)
2. Income earners in private sector (self employed or not)
3. Government workers (facilities and utilities departments)


What does the student need to succeed while in school premise?

a. Secured environment
b. Aesthetics and textures that soften sorrounding vulgarities that can offend the senses and scar or traumatize the experience and spirit of the child
c. Mixed curriculum in academia and skillcrafts

Who facilitates these?
Government facilitators

Who does not facilitate?
Private School Administrators



Private Sector production worker (self employed or employee)

This tier of society is the lifestream of the economy. When their output productivity is high, economy is buoyant also.

What are the roadblocks that can impair their output?

a. Road condition and ease of transcommuting
b. Stable power distribution at affordable rate
c. Reliable broadband communication and network deployment
d. Potable drinking water, water utilities and proper waste management
e. Security and public awareness broadcast or alert system


Who facilitates these?
Government (facilitators/Utilities departments)



If there are any questions for me I will answer when I am able to pop back in to thread.
Cheers

IlekeHD:
I see three Osunites on this thread.....2 people 1 robot.


Unku IFELEKE, if you have any pics of Ekiti state, please share am.

Dearie booni? sooo wa? (greeting ibadan style)
Will upload some soon, had issues uploading earlier..

IlekeHD:
I see three Osunites on this thread.....2 people 1 robot.


Unku IFELEKE, if you have any pics of Ekiti state, please share am.

Na me be the "robot" ?

Well i promise you pic on or before 3rd of January 2016.

Aareonakakanfo:
Looool I can see Shymm3x and quimicababes having fun Sorry for the intrusion

Speaking of jamos,my mainest G is jamo.He never liked me at first sight.He just used to fake it until we started talking and boom! the rest they say is history

And one thing a lot of people tend to ignore is their population.Their population is hhhuge outside their country They just don't like to stay at home that's why their population back home is very low.

They know what Nigerians are capable of tho

Well...everyone knows what Nigerians are capable of

Shoutout to dem Wire Wire

Lool.

A lot of Jamaicans don't like Africans, apart from the righteous ones (Rastafarians), cos of the slavery ish. And the righteous ones believe their home is in Africa, so whenever they see Africans, the motherland connection makes them relate and call you brother. Anyway, I think it's better now than it was in the past, at least in the UK, especially London - I don't know about other climes.

Then you also have the Nigerian factor - a lot of them can't stand Nigerians. They believe Nigerians don't respect black brotherhood (which is somewhat true) and most Nigerians prefer slaving to impress the white man than look out for black people. For example: when you go to a place and you meet a Jamaican working there (even a Ghanaian or other Africans esp South African blacks), the person will greet you like family and give you a free pass as a black person...but if you meet a Nigerian person, the person will make ya life hell and overdo the job. Even me sometimes, I prefer dealing with a white person than a Nigerian. There was a case at the council some Jamaican guy was telling me about one time about how a Nigerian woman frustrated his missus' life, until they had to tell the council to replace her with a white woman. I swear that guy despise Nigerians and when he found out I was Nigerian, he started acting funny to me as well. Then again not all Nigerians are like that but those who're like that are the ones making the rest look bad.

Yes, everyone knows how Nigerians get down -

quimicababes:

Shymm3x...no one denies Jamaica her glory in the Caribbean.Most of us are happy for her progress.Most of us embrace her cultural artifacts that gave her ,her fame but that's no excuse for her to think she is superior.Trinidad created Soca and the pan instrument and most of the smaller English speaking Caribbean islands adopted Trini soca but Trini folks will never put god out of their thought to think they are superior to other islanders.Heck the pan music is usually used for music that signify the Caribbean tourism but we don't beat no superior tune.Trini and the other islands can hold their weight just like Jamaica...we have produced a lot of smart folks feck Kwame Ture was a Trini.Jamaicans have no excuse for their lack of tact and obnoxious behaviour.

Bahamians are pretty smart....had an ex who is Bahamian...brilliant guy..he studied law in the UK.My only gripe is they can be too religious tho.

Sometimes I wonder if its genetics though eh after learning about Naija and her various groups...I won't mention d group dt them close to nah .Still one love for Jamaica and I wish her and Caricom all the best.Same to you...I hope Naija gets her ish together also...she is the largest black nation nah.

Stokely Carmichael the Kwame Ture - legend. Then you have the legendary scholar, Ivan Van Sertima, from British Guiana. Etc.. But I think Bob Marley just took Jamaica to Ionosphere. And you can't deny the impact of Marcus Garvey on black history in diaspora and how that impact also changed Africa. Without Marcus Garvey, there won't be black consciousness and black movement. Even the Pan-African flag folks still carry around today was designed by Marcus Garvey. Then you have the likes of: Fard Muhammad, and Noble Drew Ali who came directly under Garvey's influence - and birthed Elijah Muhammad. It went from there to Malcolm X and Martin Luther King. And the Black Panther Party came after them. Now back to Africa, the first anti-colonial movement started with the Garveyites - then Nkrumah, Lumumba et al who became students of Malcolm X and MLK took it to the crescendo. The children of Marcus Garvey right there and his influence from one generation to the other.

Soca is the carnival tune and I believe Trinis started carnival. But in the UK, Jamaicans have started infusing their bashment into it. Jamaicans are sly, I tell ya. Salute to Trinis for giving us soca and carnival.

Yes, Bahamians are supremely religious. Like my darg used to say, "these folks love Jesus more than he loved himself and far more than the white man ever loved him" lool. We used to debate religion with them and other religious folks like almost every night in the Uni library back then (memories). That was when I was still a radical and I just found out the Isis, Osiris, and Horus stories. And how Krishna, Buddha, Zeus et al have the same story-line as Jesus. Ditto the origin of the name. I believe I was just subconsciously mad back then that I've been lied to about a unique Jesus all my life, not knowing that the same Jesus could pass for Horus, Krishna, Buddha, Zeus, and even the solar system lol. That was the reason why my boy became an atheist. As for me, I just managed to outgrow that phase and focus on life and the supreme being. I don't have problem with religious folks and I do go to Church when I need to. However, I know the truth and background story to loads of things in religion - though I seldom talk about it.

honeychild:


Cut it out

Okay, ma'am.

Are you cool though?

It's an open thread and a town hall meeting.

Make sure you contribute ya quota to the betterment of Yorubaland and Yoruba commonwealth.

Let's go to Ibadan

Mauve 21, Event centre. Ring Road. I learnt that Banky & Dbanj were here last week Friday.

dansoye1:



Hi Mayor

Okuns do not wholly owned Lokoja but do have a part that they are indigenous to in the city. Lokoja is a disputed land among notably

Oworo(Okun),Nupe,Ebira,Igala,Hausa- all lay claim to ownership of the town.

laudate:

You want the Nupes & Igalas to fight you??! Ha!

Im trying as much to not discuss Northern issues but there is a strong tease particularly a myth which lack of knowledge and cheap ridicule has made acceptable evrrytime Hausa and North is mentioned amongst Yorubas.

We must, I stress this...we Yorubas must study and thoroughly understand the North if we desire by any means to return to regionalism or seceed from Nigeria.

There are two majority tribes in North, Hausa and Kanuri, thats it. Fulani is a minority but the elite and ruling class. Beside Islam, they worship traditional cults in North and they have Christians as well. There are Hausas, Kanuris and Fulanis that consult oracle and they also have ritualists up there.

Fulanis never had kingdoms in their history...never anywhere in the history of Africa do you find an old Empire of Fulani. They were a sub culture under Songhay Empire and Mali Empire.

The occassion of Fulani having Emirates is a revolution in Hausaland. They simply occupied thrones and palaces preexisting and owned by Hausa Kings. Fulani did not know how to erect a kingdom or city. The walled cities, the history and office were already institutions of power....they simply eliminated the owners, walked up and occupied the vacancies. The Hausa Sarkis that escaped went Southward into Lokoja. Fulanis believe their success in Hausaland should work in Kanuriland, in Nupeland, in Yorubaland, in Iboland....that they can carry out a campaign of terror, intimidation, elimination and then subjugation to culminate in sacking the throne and converting ownership. They are still ambitious till today and when their efforts are blocked they throw tantrum and blame it on intolerance for their cow herds to graze. Its a plot!

In Yorubaland if your family name is Fayemi or Fashola or Fasakin...instantly you have given hints how to locate your family compound. It doesn't matter where you are in the world, we have your code and we can trace you to your family chain. Its not like this in North

You cannot trace a Sanusi, a Ibrahim, a Mohammed, a Yusuf, a Buhari. There are millions with these last names and are spread across many desert countries, from Darfur, Chad, Niger, Cameroon, Burkina, Benin, Ghana, Mali.... So then an Ibrahim Yousuf in Nigeria is not necessarily a Nigerian even if he speaks Hausa, the lingua franca across many communities in the Sahel and Dessert.

If you take Ayo Ogunmade from Lagos to Ijebu, to Ijesha, to Ekiti, Egba, Ibadan, Okun, Offa, Ilorin, Jebba, Saki, Epe, Badagry....ati bebe lo, he will remain Ayo Ogunmade, his name will never change due to location or relocation. It is not so in North. They go by a different code.

Abubakar Adamu was born and raised in Funtua. He goes to Kano for secondary education and decides to drop his last name and adopt his town. He becomes Abubakar Funtua. He goes afterward to University of Maiduguri. His friends are Kanuri and startbto call him Babu Funtua. Abubakar, Abu Sadiq, Babu, Bakar, Bacar, Abacha...are different to the Southerner, but to the Norther are all same. In fact if this guy goes to Sokoto serve youth corp his friends there would know him as Abubakar Sadiq Funtua! Mohammed, Modu, Momodu, Mo, Momoh are all the same name. As a result of our lack of understanding, we have in reality had some foreigners in the Sahel occupy positions reserved for Nigerians, under cover of language, culture and faith common in the North. In all these we busy ourselves reminding the Northerner that we are smarter than them.

If.you study the history of Lokoja we see it is a confluence, and what in old order would be termed strategic and.prime location. Strategic to who? To those who wield powers and armies and are looking for prime crossroads to occupy because it served as resting place as well trading spots or exchanges or markets and hence opporthnity to tax. So who were the Great powers in the immediate vicinity to occupy this spot?

You can eliminate Igala and Hausa. Hausa had no contigous domain connecting with Lokoja. If Igala had power Lokoja was beyond its league to contend authority over.

Oyo Ile was a powerful Imperial seat and within stone throw of Lokoja. Bida was a seat of a king and not an Emperor, but has close proximity also...but the presence of Hausa and others and their claim is not supported either by their own history, that of the old order of political supremacy or the name of the town itself. Lokoja in Yoruba is synonymous with a passage.....well, thats exactly what the place is, a passage or intersect.! What does Lokoja mean in Igala, Nupe or Hausa?

I shared these many background and info on a very simple.matter that doea not requore a lenghty narration but if you learn a thing or two here then the effort is worth it.

We cannot continue to yield a land everytime its in contention with Northerners. If we own it and history supports our ownership of it then by God, we must support that ownership with cultural facts and historical legends. We cannot go with what is...a result of reshape and remodelling of ancestral lands exercised by reckless military rulers.

Okun people own Lokoja. Nupe has a tiny chance of contention if they disprove Okun as the owner. Igala and Hausa should just fvk off and dropbtheir silly claim.

Wassup Duke...I think you have hooked quami, by crook!

MayorofLagos:






Im trying as much to not discuss Northern issues but there is a strong tease particularly a myth which lack of knowledge and cheap ridicule has made acceptable evrrytime Hausa and North is mentioned amongst Yorubas.

We must, I stress this...we Yorubas must study and thoroughly understand the North if we desire by any means to return to regionalism or seceed from Nigeria.

There are two majority tribes in North, Hausa and Kanuri, thats it. Fulani is a minority but the elite and ruling class. Beside Islam, they worship traditional cults in North and they have Christians as well. There are Hausas, Kanuris and Fulanis that consult oracle and they also have ritualists up there.

Fulanis never had kingdoms in their history...never anywhere in the history of Africa do you find an old Empire of Fulani. They were a sub culture under Songhay Empire and Mali Empire.

The occassion of Fulani having Emirates is a revolution in Hausaland. They simply occupied thrones and palaces preexisting and owned by Hausa Kings. Fulani did not know how to erect a kingdom or city. The walled cities, the history and office were already institutions of power....they simply eliminated the owners, walked up and occupied the vacancies. The Hausa Sarkis that escaped went Southward into Lokoja. Fulanis believe their success in Hausaland should work in Kanuriland, in Nupeland, in Yorubaland, in Iboland....that they can carry out a campaign of terror, intimidation, elimination and then subjugation to culminate in sacking the throne and converting ownership. They are still ambitious till today and when their efforts are blocked they throw tantrum and blame it on intolerance for their cow herds to graze. Its a plot!

In Yorubaland if your family name is Fayemi or Fashola or Fasakin...instantly you have given hints how to locate your family compound. It doesn't matter where you are in the world, we have your code and we can trace you to your family chain. Its not like this in North

You cannot trace a Sanusi, a Ibrahim, a Mohammed, a Yusuf, a Buhari. There are millions with these last names and are spread across many desert countries, from Darfur, Chad, Niger, Cameroon, Burkina, Benin, Ghana, Mali.... So then an Ibrahim Yousuf in Nigeria is not necessarily a Nigerian even if he speaks Hausa, the lingua franca across many communities in the Sahel and Dessert.

If you take Ayo Ogunmade from Lagos to Ijebu, to Ijesha, to Ekiti, Egba, Ibadan, Okun, Offa, Ilorin, Jebba, Saki, Epe, Badagry....ati bebe lo, he will remain Ayo Ogunmade, his name will never change due to location or relocation. It is not so in North. They go by a different code.

Abubakar Adamu was born and raised in Funtua. He goes to Kano for secondary education and decides to drop his last name and adopt his town. He becomes Abubakar Funtua. He goes afterward to University of Maiduguri. His friends are Kanuri and startbto call him Babu Funtua. Abubakar, Abu Sadiq, Babu, Bakar, Bacar, Abacha...are different to the Southerner, but to the Norther are all same. In fact if this guy goes to Sokoto serve youth corp his friends there would know him as Abubakar Sadiq Funtua! Mohammed, Modu, Momodu, Mo, Momoh are all the same name. As a result of our lack of understanding, we have in reality had some foreigners in the Sahel occupy positions reserved for Nigerians, under cover of language, culture and faith common in the North. In all these we busy ourselves reminding the Northerner that we are smarter than them.

If.you study the history of Lokoja we see it is a confluence, and what in old order would be termed strategic and.prime location. Strategic to who? To those who wield powers and armies and are looking for prime crossroads to occupy because it served as resting place as well trading spots or exchanges or markets and hence opporthnity to tax. So who were the Great powers in the immediate vicinity to occupy this spot?

You can eliminate Igala and Hausa. Hausa had no contigous domain connecting with Lokoja. If Igala had power Lokoja was beyond its league to contend authority over.

Oyo Ile was a powerful Imperial seat and within stone throw of Lokoja. Bida was a seat of a king and not an Emperor, but has close proximity also...but the presence of Hausa and others and their claim is not supported either by their own history, that of the old order of political supremacy or the name of the town itself. Lokoja in Yoruba is synonymous with a passage.....well, thats exactly what the place is, a passage or intersect.! What does Lokoja mean in Igala, Nupe or Hausa?

I shared these many background and info on a very simple.matter that doea not requore a lenghty narration but if you learn a thing or two here then the effort is worth it.

We cannot continue to yield a land everytime its in contention with Northerners. If we own it and history supports our ownership of it then by God, we must support that ownership with cultural facts and historical legends. We cannot go with what is...a result of reshape and remodelling of ancestral lands exercised by reckless military rulers.

Okun people own Lokoja. Nupe has a tiny chance of contention if they disprove Okun as the owner. Igala and Hausa should just fvk off and dropbtheir silly claim.

Well said.

MayorofLagos:
Wassup Duke...I think you have hooked quami, by crook!

Lool.

Quimi is aareonakakanfo's supreme wife - off limit for me.

I don't do OPP (other people's property) - loyal above everything and death before dishonour.

MayorofLagos*
Do you really mean Okun people are the real owner of Lokoja?
They are not even in the top 3 major groups in that Kogi state. Besides the okuns are not even suppose to be in the same place with the igalas/Ebira.
if okun are the real owner of Lokoja, where's the ancestral home/place of the ebira and the igalas?
it seems we are now becoming land grabbers.

WIZGUY69:
MayorofLagos*
Do you really mean Okun people are the real owner of Lokoja?
They are not even in the top 3 major groups in that Kogi state. Besides the okuns are not even suppose to be in the same place with the igalas/Ebira.
if okun are the real owner of Lokoja, where's the ancestral home/place of the ebira and the igalas?
it seems we are now becoming land grabbers.

- What's the history of Lokoja?

- What's the meaning of the name in Yoruba, Igala, and ebira - and the correlation of those meanings with what the place represents?

- Which ethnic group got there first?

- And which ethnic group has the largest population there and what's the language spoken there?

I think the place is similar to Warri.

Duke,
Keep that bad boy loaded. I hear Ibo is bringing ipob march to Lagos.

MayorofLagos:
Duke,
Keep that bad boy loaded. I hear Ibo is bringing ipob march to Lagos.

I've been following it closely without talking about it.

These mofos just never learn from history.

They know how volatile everywhere is right now and the Lagos topic is hot, yet they want more problems.

It's good news if you ask me cos that will probably be the beginning to their end in Lagos. And at least when the hammer comes down on them, the depopulation we're all praying for will happen by crook.

Lokoja was founded by Lord Lugard or one of his contemporaries as a haven for freed or ransomed slaves.

As a slave, the minute you set foot in Lokoja, you were free.

That was back then, don't know about now.

The chief Yoruba cities or towns in Nigeria are: Agbaja , Ilesa , Ibadan , Ilorin , Igboho , Fiditi , Ede, Eko/Lagos , Sango Otta, Ejigbo, Ilawe Ekiti , Ibokun Ijebu Ode, Abẹokuta, Akurẹ, Ilọrin , Ijẹbu-Igbo , Ejigbo, Odogbolu, Efon Alaaye, Ogbomọṣọ , Ondo, Ila Orangun , Ado-Ekiti , Ido-Ekiti, Ikare Akoko , Kabba , Gbongan , Ogidi-Ijumu , Omuo , Omu-Aran, Sagamu , Iperu , Ore, Iseyin , Illah Bunu , Ikenne, Shaki , Osogbo , Ikorodu, Offa , Oka Akoko, Ijero Ekiti , Iwo, Ilesa , Ilaje, Esa-Oke , Ọyọ , Ilé-Ifẹ , Owo, Ede, Badagry, Ilaro , Esie , Ago Iwoye , Iragbiji, Share, Akungba Akoko , Iwo, Ikere-Ekiti , Idoani , Okitipupa, Offa , Kishi , Ise Ekiti , Epe, Ikire, Inisa , Obajana , Idanre , Ilaro Etc.

MayorofLagos:






Im trying as much to not discuss Northern issues but there is a strong tease particularly a myth which lack of knowledge and cheap ridicule has made acceptable evrrytime Hausa and North is mentioned amongst Yorubas.

We must, I stress this...we Yorubas must study and thoroughly understand the North if we desire by any means to return to regionalism or seceed from Nigeria.

There are two majority tribes in North, Hausa and Kanuri, thats it. Fulani is a minority but the elite and ruling class. Beside Islam, they worship traditional cults in North and they have Christians as well. There are Hausas, Kanuris and Fulanis that consult oracle and they also have ritualists up there.

Fulanis never had kingdoms in their history...never anywhere in the history of Africa do you find an old Empire of Fulani. They were a sub culture under Songhay Empire and Mali Empire.

The occassion of Fulani having Emirates is a revolution in Hausaland. They simply occupied thrones and palaces preexisting and owned by Hausa Kings. Fulani did not know how to erect a kingdom or city. The walled cities, the history and office were already institutions of power....they simply eliminated the owners, walked up and occupied the vacancies. The Hausa Sarkis that escaped went Southward into Lokoja. Fulanis believe their success in Hausaland should work in Kanuriland, in Nupeland, in Yorubaland, in Iboland....that they can carry out a campaign of terror, intimidation, elimination and then subjugation to culminate in sacking the throne and converting ownership. They are still ambitious till today and when their efforts are blocked they throw tantrum and blame it on intolerance for their cow herds to graze. Its a plot!

In Yorubaland if your family name is Fayemi or Fashola or Fasakin...instantly you have given hints how to locate your family compound. It doesn't matter where you are in the world, we have your code and we can trace you to your family chain. Its not like this in North

You cannot trace a Sanusi, a Ibrahim, a Mohammed, a Yusuf, a Buhari. There are millions with these last names and are spread across many desert countries, from Darfur, Chad, Niger, Cameroon, Burkina, Benin, Ghana, Mali.... So then an Ibrahim Yousuf in Nigeria is not necessarily a Nigerian even if he speaks Hausa, the lingua franca across many communities in the Sahel and Dessert.

If you take Ayo Ogunmade from Lagos to Ijebu, to Ijesha, to Ekiti, Egba, Ibadan, Okun, Offa, Ilorin, Jebba, Saki, Epe, Badagry....ati bebe lo, he will remain Ayo Ogunmade, his name will never change due to location or relocation. It is not so in North. They go by a different code.

Abubakar Adamu was born and raised in Funtua. He goes to Kano for secondary education and decides to drop his last name and adopt his town. He becomes Abubakar Funtua. He goes afterward to University of Maiduguri. His friends are Kanuri and startbto call him Babu Funtua. Abubakar, Abu Sadiq, Babu, Bakar, Bacar, Abacha...are different to the Southerner, but to the Norther are all same. In fact if this guy goes to Sokoto serve youth corp his friends there would know him as Abubakar Sadiq Funtua! Mohammed, Modu, Momodu, Mo, Momoh are all the same name. As a result of our lack of understanding, we have in reality had some foreigners in the Sahel occupy positions reserved for Nigerians, under cover of language, culture and faith common in the North. In all these we busy ourselves reminding the Northerner that we are smarter than them.

If.you study the history of Lokoja we see it is a confluence, and what in old order would be termed strategic and.prime location. Strategic to who? To those who wield powers and armies and are looking for prime crossroads to occupy because it served as resting place as well trading spots or exchanges or markets and hence opporthnity to tax. So who were the Great powers in the immediate vicinity to occupy this spot?

You can eliminate Igala and Hausa. Hausa had no contigous domain connecting with Lokoja. If Igala had power Lokoja was beyond its league to contend authority over.

Oyo Ile was a powerful Imperial seat and within stone throw of Lokoja. Bida was a seat of a king and not an Emperor, but has close proximity also...but the presence of Hausa and others and their claim is not supported either by their own history, that of the old order of political supremacy or the name of the town itself. Lokoja in Yoruba is synonymous with a passage.....well, thats exactly what the place is, a passage or intersect.! What does Lokoja mean in Igala, Nupe or Hausa?

I shared these many background and info on a very simple.matter that doea not requore a lenghty narration but if you learn a thing or two here then the effort is worth it.

We cannot continue to yield a land everytime its in contention with Northerners. If we own it and history supports our ownership of it then by God, we must support that ownership with cultural facts and historical legends. We cannot go with what is...a result of reshape and remodelling of ancestral lands exercised by reckless military rulers.

Okun people own Lokoja. Nupe has a tiny chance of contention if they disprove Okun as the owner. Igala and Hausa should just fvk off and dropbtheir silly claim.

Spot On!
It can also be said that Lokoja as a passage was mainly used by Sango and his people while sojourning between Oyo Ile and Nupe, my thoughts though.

ExcerptsI found about Lokoja on britannica and another source:

Formerly the capital of Kabba province, Lokoja was part of Kwara from 1967 to 1991, when it became the capital of the newly formed state of Kogi.

The town has a hydroelectric power generating plant. It is situated on the local highway between Kabba and Ayangbe and has ferry service across the Niger River. Pop. (2006) local government area, 195,261.

and

The dilemma of Lokoja is that various ethnic groups, notably the Oworo, Nupe, Igbirra, Hausa and Igala claim to be the true natives. These claims and counterclaims are said to have hampered the development of the town since Nigeria’s independence.

^^^From these excerpts - we know Kabba province is Yoruba (Okun) and Oworos (Okun) are also Yorubas.

What about the Ayangbes - are they Yorubas?

Shymm3x:


I've been following it closely without talking about it.

These mofos just never learn from history.

They know how volatile everywhere is right now and the Lagos topic is hot, yet they want more problems.

It's good news if you ask me cos that will probably be the beginning to their end in Lagos. And at least when the hammer comes down on them, the depopulation we're all praying for will happen by crook.

I don't think they'll be stupid enough to try any place farther than Benin City...

WIZGUY69:
The chief Yoruba cities or towns in Nigeria
are: Agbaja , Ilesa , Ibadan , Ilorin , Igboho ,
Fiditi , Ede, Eko/Lagos , Sango Otta, Ejigbo,
Ilawe Ekiti , Ibokun Ijebu Ode, Abẹokuta,
Akurẹ, Ilọrin , Ijẹbu-Igbo , Ejigbo, Odogbolu,
Efon Alaaye, Ogbomọṣọ , Ondo, Ila Orangun ,
Ado-Ekiti , Ido-Ekiti, Ikare Akoko , Kabba ,
Gbongan , Ogidi-Ijumu , Omuo , Omu-Aran,
Sagamu , Iperu , Ore, Iseyin , Illah Bunu ,
Ikenne, Shaki , Osogbo , Ikorodu, Offa , Oka
Akoko, Ijero Ekiti , Iwo, Ilesa , Ilaje, Esa-Oke ,
Ọyọ , Ilé-Ifẹ , Owo, Ede, Badagry, Ilaro , Esie ,
Ago Iwoye , Iragbiji, Share, Akungba Akoko ,
Iwo, Ikere-Ekiti , Idoani , Okitipupa, Offa ,
Kishi , Ise Ekiti , Epe, Ikire, Inisa , Obajana ,
Idanre , Ilaro Etc.

This information is for who?

Are you identifying your or a network?

IFELEKE:


I don't think they'll be stupid enough to try any place farther than Benin City...

Lool.

You never know - these folks are innately suicidal.

Are they the same folks calling Lagos "no man's land"?

A lot of them also claimed they can stand in Lagos and fight the Yorubas, despite the fact that the place is surrounded by at least two layers of core Yoruba cities.

Shymm3x:


- What's the history of Lokoja?

- What's the meaning of the name in Yoruba, Igala, and ebira - and the correlation of those meanings with what the place represents?

- Which ethnic group got there first?

- And which ethnic group has the largest population there and what's the language spoken there?

I think the place is similar to Warri.

- Lokoja
was the capital of the British Northern
Nigeria Protectorate and remained a
convenient administrative town for the
British colonial government after the
amalgamation of Northern and Southern


- I actually don't know the meaning in Ebira & Igala.

- igala got their first, that's why the main king in lokoja is Attah. (which means Father).

- igala then ebira then okun. the major language spoken there depends on the location. in lokoja ( which is the major city their) Igala
okene the second largest town which happens to be the main town of the ebiras. they speak ebira there.

I think so..

tpiadotcom:

This information is for who?

For you of course.

WIZGUY69:

- Lokoja
was the capital of the British Northern
Nigeria Protectorate and remained a
convenient administrative town for the
British colonial government after the
amalgamation of Northern and Southern

- I actually don't know the meaning in Ebira & Igala.

- igala got their first, that's why the main king in lokoja is Attah. (which means Father).

- igala then ebira then okun. the major language spoken there depends on the location. in lokoja ( which is the major city their) Igala
okene the second largest town which happens to be the main town of the ebiras. they speak ebira there.

I think so..

Kingship doesn't necessary mean they got their first. Eko Kingship came from Bini but the Aworis were in Eko before the Binis came there to create a flank against Dahomey. Ditto Owo, Itsekiris, and a lot of small towns around larger Kingdoms/Empires.

Igalas did have a strong Kingdom back in the day and they actually held their own in different wars against the Bini Kingdom. So if they installed Kingship over a small indigenous population - it's understandable. However that doesn't mean they got there first.

IFELEKE:


I don't think they'll be stupid enough to try any place farther than Benin City...

Never ever underestimate the stupidity of the yibs

quimicababes:


Jamaicans don't migrate because they don't like their country...[b]Jamaicans love their country eh.[/b]Them migrate due to lack of opportunities...a lot of them are in poverty and IMF have screwed Jamaica.Prior to UK requiring visa for them..we had a few of them but since its no longer easy to migrate to USA,UK and Canada they have flooded other Caribbean islands through CSME for jobs.Jamaicans have to pay for school etc at the primary and secondary level back home...was surprising to me because it free for us here..even university.They are hardworking however...

Err...it's not even just a Jamaican thing, it's a Caribbean thing. Caribs just love their home countries and they love going home. Even the ones that are in their fifth generation outside the Islands that have turned to triple coconuts and double coconut juice in one - go home from time to time. Why's that?

All the Caribs I know go to their home countries, unlike we Africans. I've an uncle that's married to a Jamaican woman and she takes the kids to Jamaica all the time. Then there's this naij guy I grew up playing football with, Moses Ashikodi (supremely gifted footballer and should've made it big but he's just ya typical Peckham boy and indiscipline killed his career), that plays for Antigua. His missus made him play for the country and they both travel to Antigua all the time. You lot love ya countries, bwoi.

Shymm3x:


I've been following it closely without talking about it.

These mofos just never learn from history.

They know how volatile everywhere is right now and the Lagos topic is hot, yet they want more problems.

It's good news if you ask me cos that will probably be the beginning to their end in Lagos. And at least when the hammer comes down on them, the depopulation we're all praying for will happen by crook.

Lmao.

WIZGUY69:


- Lokoja
was the capital of the British Northern
Nigeria Protectorate and remained a
convenient administrative town for the
British colonial government after the
amalgamation of Northern and Southern


- I actually don't know the meaning in Ebira & Igala.

- igala got their first, that's why the main king in lokoja is Attah. (which means Father).

- igala then ebira then okun. the major language spoken there depends on the location. in lokoja ( which is the major city their) Igala
okene the second largest town which happens to be the main town of the ebiras. they speak ebira there.

I think so..

Its an insult to begin the history of Lokoja with British foothold. What was the history before colonialists, do you know?

Shymm3x:


Kingship doesn't necessary mean they got their first. Eko Kingship came from Bini but the Aworis were in Eko before the Binis came there to create a flank against Dahomey. Ditto Owo, Itsekiris, and a lot of small towns around larger Kingdoms/Empires.

Igalas did have a strong Kingdom back in the day and they actually held their own in different wars against the Bini Kingdom. So if they installed Kingship over a small indigenous population - it's understandable. However that doesn't mean they got there first.

Binis didn't establish kingship in Owo,but rather Owo princes(only two of them Omaro and Oshogboye) would go to Benin to learn courtly cultures and

military techniques.

Note:Oma means Omo in Owo dialect.

Shymm3x:


Lool.

You never know - these folks are innately suicidal.

Are they the same folks calling Lagos "no man's land"?

A lot of them also claimed they can stand in Lagos and fight the Yorubas, despite the fact that the place is surrounded by at least two layers of core Yoruba cities.

Laffs...
I still believe the sane ones among them know better...I think what we are seeing presently is just a bunch of disgruntled elements dancing shamelessly to the tune of a scam artist, let's just amuse ourselves and watch as they ridicule themselves.

Er0ticAngela:
Never ever underestimate the stupidity of the yibs

Oh no, I think they are the ones over estimating there worth, reality will soon hit them in the face like a rude shock.