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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 8:00pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: That's because any good or average team would've won UCL with Barca of recent years. Enrique has proven that and he's still proving it. Barca team is an exceptional team. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 8:05pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: This also applies to a coach that stays in one club because he'll have to rebuild his team at least every 5 - 7 years. Teams needs to be rebuilt and it also takes time to rebuild to top level. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:06pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: Why didn't Tata and Tito win it? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:07pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
nyabinghi: We dont need him to win consecutively but win more than 2 in a 20+yrs on the same job Ancelotti won 2 in AC Milan where he spent 8yrs Pep won 2 in barca where he spent just 4yrs None of them won consecutively So if you are staying in one club for long you should be winning more than Fergie did |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:09pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Odunharry: The only game I remember him defeating Hizfeld while Ottmar returned the favour 4 games |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:09pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: The foreign players in Leeds, were they not from Scotland, Wales and Ireland, apart from may be Cantona? I remember very well English teams were angry with Eufa for counting players from other parts of United Kingdom as foreigners, so they couldn't use all their players in Europe. English FA and authorities didn't see players from other parts of UK as foreigners as such, but work permit was made very difficult from players from other parts of the world, particularly outside Europe. All these made the league to be substandard and restricted the coaches in English league. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:10pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: Barca had Tito Villanova, they had Tata Martino none of them won with Barcelona So find another talk |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 8:12pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1: I have answered this question earlier. You like going back and forth. Where did Tata come from? Tito had only one one season wish was riddled with cancer. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:14pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 8:15pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: I've answered that. What about Enrique? Why not talk about him? Pep was a rookie coach when he won it first time. Why didn't he do the same with Bayern as the defending champion? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:19pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: Are Scotland, Wales and ireland not separate countries? Dont they have separate representative in the Champions League or are they the same country? Dont they go to Euro cup or World cup differently? Leeds had players from Scotland, Wales, Ireland, Northern ireland, France and Malta AC Milan too aside from Italian players only had players from Holland |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:20pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter, I will like you to see this. Did Bosman help Manchester United win the Champions League? British clubs pre-Bosman found themselves at a huge disadvantage in European competitions, because Uefa decreed that Welsh and Scottish players counted as foreigners under their "three-plus-two" rule. That meant that United, for example, had to make wholesale changes to their normal line-up when playing in Europe - most memorably when Alex Ferguson brought English goalkeeper Gary Walsh in for the Danish Peter Schmeichel in the 4-0 thrashing by Barcelona in 1994-5. When clubs were suddenly freed to play all the EU players they wanted, Sir Alex Ferguson was at last able to play his first-choice XI in Europe. Only five of the 13 players who featured in United's 1999 Champions League final win over Bayern Munich were English. Before the Bosman ruling, that team could never have set foot on the pitch. .............. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:21pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: Why should Pep win it with Bayern, Is he the only one playing? He didnt win with bayern because he met a stronger coach called Ancelotti What do you want us to say about Enrique? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:21pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
ollah1:My friend stop asking questions and use ur......
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:26pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: Elamps. What does this mean? UEFA says every team should use a maximum of 3 foreigners. So why didnt Man Utd use their own non UK foreigners?. This would have made sense if Others in Europe were using more than 3 foreigners and only English teams couldnt use that more than 3 UEFA say use only 3. Man utd choose their 3 foreigners, AC Milan or barca chose theirs. Man utd lost and you come back to say its because they didnt allow Man Utd use 7 foreigners? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:30pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: We are getting somewhere. I don't know much of the Labour laws in UK or England. But it looks like there was a free movement of players withing the UK which meant English teams had like nearly half of their players from other parts of UK. So take for example, the Leeds team that won the league in 1991/1992 season, when they had to play in Europe, they will be forced to select only 2 out of about 8 players from Wales and Scotland. Plus Cantona the required three is complete. The rest first team members would not be qualified to be even on the bench in Champion League games. These were the disadvantages SAF faced. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 8:32pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: And what happened last season? He also met a stronger coach in Enrique. Like i said, what Pep did with Barca wasn't special because rookie Enrique has done it and he's still doing it. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 8:33pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: That Yeye Ac milan Coached by Leonardo abi Wetin be hin name?? That side wasn't better than Spartak Moscow Abeg. Inter milan had Julio Cesar; best goalie in the world ( he was 1st choice & not Toldo - My bad) ............... Julio Cesar.............. Maicon.....Samuel......Lucio........Chivu ........... Thiago Motta.....Cambiasso ....Pandev...............Sneijder................... .........................Eto.......Milito.......... Didn't you watch the semi final 2nd leg vs Barca?? This team eliminated Barca despite playing the majority of that match with 10 men....Messi was totally useless throughout. In the final vs Bayern, it was a typical Mourihno-esque performance - Bayern did the playing while Inter picked their moments & it worked perfectly. I've never been a fan of bus-packing but mehn, the efficient way the team went about it was excellent. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 8:34pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter bring hitzfield record both as player and coach and compare with SAF.. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:34pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: So United would use there non UK foreigners, then forced to compulsorily dropped first team members who came from Wales, Scotland and Ireland. How could the team play with a good rhythm when the first team had been distorted? Take for instance, you are forced to drop Irwin and Giggs because you already have chosen other three foreigners. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 8:50pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Where's that ollah that said SAF won the league titles because of free penalties referees were dashing his team? Man Utd didn't even win the league in the season when Man Utd topped the table.
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:51pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Dadehmola: They parked the bus against Barca na. United had a very swift transition of the ball from defence to attack. We were the only ones who could have easily beaten them. The Inter Milan team we beat a year before was almost as strong. They had Ibrahimovic at the time. They were feared until they met us. We were so good that year 2010 that we were going to win in Germany then injury played it's part. They were still lucky the cross bar prevented Vidic rocket header from going in. Soon after they scored us. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 8:51pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 8:58pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro:If not for the red, I'm 70% sure we will defeat Inter again after what we did the previous year 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:12pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: How are these disadvantages? UEFA stated it before the season that you can only use a maximum of 3 foreigners They know Wales, Ireland and Scotland are foreigners because they cannot play for the English National Team. Giggs cant play for England etc. Other European teams also had the 3 foreigner rule. Some Italian teams too had more than 3 foreigners but when they get to Europe they are forced to drop others and field just 3. So how was it a disadvantage |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:13pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: So if another coach wins the CL with Man Utd in the future we can also say what ferguson did wasnt special because new coach also did it |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chidexxy007(m): 9:13pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Odunharry:High Chief Onigbinde 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:19pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
Odunharry: How does record as a player affect their coaching ability Okay if you want to know Hitzfeld scored 169 goals as a player won 2 swiss leagues won a Swiss cup As a manager 3 Swiss cup 2 swiss league 7 Bundesliga titles 3 DFB Pokal 4 DFB Liga Pokal 2 Champions league 1 Intercontental cup 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by tess1(m): 9:20pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: Barce is an exceptional team. How many rookie coaches have won the UCL in their first season in Champions league as a coach? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:20pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
elampiro: Irwin and Giggs are foreigners. If you dont drop them then you would be using 5 foreigners Irwin and Giggs dont play for England National team so why shouldnt they be foreigners? UEFA made it clear before competition that only 3 foreigners are allowed simple |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:21pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
tess1: Pep Guardiola |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 9:30pm On Dec 01, 2015 |
raumdeuter: It's a disadvantage because it was only English teams who had first team regular players who were eligible to play Premier League but ineligible to all play in European matches. |
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