BoboYekini:
Our discussion is over.

See you, but really what does it matter how many partners a lady's had?

Come back here mister.

If you move from this thread, I move you.

Timbuktou:


I'm the best thing since sliced bread. Ask my girlfriend. Mami, I lie?

I don't know your girlfriend na, so how do I ask her? But judging from what I know, you are .......

freecocoa:
I don't know your girlfriend na, so how do I ask her? But judging from what I know, you are .......

My girlfriend is viewing this thread in ghost mode and she's laughing her butt off. I'm the sweetest man you'll ever meet. I just don't tolerate frivolities, well, except from her. She's been showing herself recently.

Timbuktou:


My girlfriend is viewing this thread in ghost mode and she's laughing her butt off. I'm the sweetest man you'll ever meet. I just don't tolerate frivolities, well, except from her. She's been showing herself recently.

Sweetest must have a new meaning I don't know of.

Does how many partners a man's been with matter when a lady is choosing a husband?

freecocoa:
Sweetest must have a new meaning I don't know of.

Does how many partners a man's been with matter when a lady is choosing a husband?

Would it matter to you? I'm not sure women place a premium on inexperienced men. If anything, you want quite the contrary. Am I right?

Timbuktou:



Would it matter to you? I'm not sure women place a premium on inexperienced men. If anything, you want quite the contrary. Am I right?

You didn't answer my question and yea, it would matter to me.

You are not right, I don't want a man who's been with "too many" women.

freecocoa:
Sweetest must have a new meaning I don't know of.

Does how many partners a man's been with matter when a lady is choosing a husband?

That is the prerogative decision of the woman like man also.

If you want a virgin male, so be it.

freecocoa:
You didn't answer my question and yea, it would matter to me.

You are not right, I don't want a man who's been with "too many" women.

I can't purport to answer for women, hence my reversing the question.

Well, there you go. How about "no-women".

bellong:


That is the prerogative decision of the woman like man also.

If you want a virgin male, so be it.

I agree, but don't you think it's callous of a man, who's been around the block to say he wants a woman with a low body count, and more importantly, believe that a woman who can match his count is not a good wife material?

TV01:

It's a strawman because you are saying a virgin may well make a bad wife - true - but as if a non-virgin cannot be a bad wife for exactly the same reasons a virgin can. And being a non-virgin can present issues as a result of that exact reason.

No. You are completely missing the point! I'm simply telling you to look at the bigger picture, you are clearly fixated on the idea that a woman being a virgin makes her an ideal or superior partner. That is megedefegede

TV01:

I do not judge a woman according to her virginity, for all but two in the world, I don't even care . But, when it comes to taking a wife, body count is a factor and should therefore be a consideration. I'm not being prescriptive mind, just my view.

Body count? Puna get meter? No be wetin dem tell you you go know? Abeggi! We know una type even if she tells you its only 2 you would be like 2!! That's too much

Do you think Barack cared about Michelle's body count? Angela Merkel Madame Bettencourt? Its not a consideration for me and never will. So I'd turn down a woman who could potentially complete me because of something as flimsy as that? No can't do

TV01:

A high body count increases risk - of both physical and non-physical issues. Fact!

It increases zilch if she is not sleeping around while you are with her. There are numerous health issues that can plague a couple that go above and beyond her s€x history

TV01:

Nope, I'm saying it's a consideration when choosing a wife.

For you perhaps. I on the other hand do not believe success or failure is transmitted s€xually

Timbuktou:



I can't purport to answer for women, hence my reversing the question.

Well, there you go. How about "no-women".

Okay, but why do you think it's no biggie that a man has had many partners but it is for a woman?

Tbh, I don't care if he's a virgin, he just should be able to know what to do to/with my body.

freecocoa:
I agree, but don't you think it's callous of a man, who's been around the block to say he wants a woman with a low body count, and more importantly, believe that a woman who can match his count is not a good wife material?

I'm not in a position to judge that. If he wants one, the woman too has her choice in going for a fresh dude as well.

Do I consider it callous, NO. Maybe inconsiderate

All this talk of body-count...I don't know why but anytime I see the word, my first thought is dead bodies ..

bellong:


I'm not in a position to judge that. If he wants one, the woman too has her choice in going for a fresh dude as well.

Do I consider it callous, NO. Maybe inconsiderate

Yea right, like that is really obtainable.

I guess you don't know that a guy who's been with many women is seen as badass and a woman who's been with many men, is damaged goods.

Well, Isn't it callous to be inconsiderate?

crackhaus:
All this talk of body-count...I don't know why but anytime I see the word, my first thought is dead bodies ..

Funny.

freecocoa:
Okay, but why do you think it's no biggie that a man has had many partners but it is for a woman?

Tbh, I don't care if he's a virgin, he just should be able to know what to do to/with my body.

How would he?

WHy not be content with what you would do to him. Let him receive and benefit from your wealth of experience while you build him up

raumdeuter:


How would he?

WHy not be content with what you would do to him. Let him receive and benefit from your wealth of experience while you build him up

How would he, like for real? Whatever happened to books? Movies? Common sense? Basic instinct?

Which wealth of experience? What if I'm a virgin myself? Ofcourse its vice-versa, not like I'm just gonna lie there like a log of wood and let him 'slave' away.

A40:
No. You are completely missing the point! I'm simply telling you to look at the bigger picture, you are clearly fixated on the idea that a woman being a virgin makes her an ideal or superior partner. That is megedefegede

I told you there was nothing to quibble about, and you are reaching with your assertions; I am not fixated - but I see it as a consideration (amongst others), and not something to be overlooked. Neither have I said virginity makes a woman ideal or necessarily superior. What I have said is ATBE, a virgin to low count will be preferable to a high count. I have also said increased count brings increased risk - and those risks are behavioural as well as physical.

A40:
Body count? Puna get meter? No be wetin dem tell you you go know? Abeggi! We know una type even if she tells you its only 2 you would be like 2!! That's too much

Not a meter per se, but promiscuity can engender all kinds of issue, which can potentially rear and prove problematic in a later union.

A40:
Do you think Barack cared about Michelle's body count? Angela Merkel Madame Bettencourt? Its not a consideration for me and never will. So I'd turn down a woman who could potentially complete me because of something as flimsy as that? No can't do

I said I am not being prescriptive, whether one is concerned or not, checks or not, that is their prerogative. I happen to believe it is something to be be given due consideration - and advise accordingly.

A40:
It increases zilch if she is not sleeping around while you are with her. There are numerous health issues that can plague a couple that go above and beyond her s€x history

The deep bonds that form between a couple can be impaired if a woman has repeatedly bonded and unbonded in the past. Do you know women may even carry epigenetic/phenotypical detail from previous lovers (forgive my weak science)?

And as already stated, the higher the number of priors, the more likely a woman is to be dissatisfied in a union. And there are numerous health issues that can arise as a result of her sexual history.

A40:
For you perhaps. I on the other hand do not believe success or failure is transmitted s€xually

And you are free to both believe and act on that. I believe it can have an impact, so should be considered.


TV

^{I must say I am puzzled at your insistence of totally separating a woman's notch count from her character or behaviour, and also seemingly able to view sexual actions as devoid of moral implications and therefore not a consideration when choosing a spouse?}

A40:

Body count? Puna get meter? No be wetin dem tell you you go know? Abeggi! We know una type even if she tells you its only 2 you would be like 2!! That's too much

Do you think Barack cared about Michelle's body count? Angela Merkel Madame Bettencourt? Its not a consideration for me and never will. So I'd turn down a woman who could potentially complete me because of something as flimsy as that? No can't do

I believe the problem being with a woman with a high body-count (darn, I hate this word), has more to do with the possibility that you might know or run into three or more men who have had sex with her in the past...and trust me, YOU do not want to be in that situation where you overhear three strangers whispering about how your beloved wife used to bounce and scream on their erect c0cks.

It's not really about her puna having a puna-meter for measuring the radius and circumference of an overused and overworked kitten.

And hey, if you were Barack Obama having an aspiration for political office (Senate or presidency) in a country like America where politicians are thoroughly vetted to avoid scandals, you definitely would care/consider how high the body-count goes for the woman you wish to marry.

It isn't flimsy, and saying it is doesn't make you seem more civilized or modern.

crackhaus:

And hey, if you were Barack Obama having an aspiration for political office (Senate or presidency) in a country like America where politicians are thoroughly vetted to avoid scandals, you definitely would care/consider how high the body-count goes for the woman you wish to marry.

It isn't flimsy, and saying it is doesn't make you seem more civilized or modern.

You know the number 1 frontrunner for the white house now Donald Trump is married to an ex- "model" and her pictures are online.

With the parethesis on the model you suppose know the type

freecocoa:
Okay, but why do you think it's no biggie that a man has had many partners but it is for a woman?

Tbh, I don't care if he's a virgin, he just should be able to know what to do to/with my body.

Well, first of men don't have vaginaas that expand and lose integrity after years of wear and tear. And don't mention alum and co . The texture, amongst other things, is different really. Take it from a man who knows. Then the litre upon litre of jizz you guys must have accumulated over time. Ewww. Cocoa, abeg.

raumdeuter:


You know the number 1 contender for the white house now Donald Trump is married to an ex- "model" and her pictures are online.

With the parethesis on the model you suppose know the type

Does Donald Trump look like someone who would become President of the USA, honestly?

That man is a loose canon...only a poor gambler would bet on him. (not referring to you)

crackhaus:

Does Donald Trump look like someone who would become President of the USA, honestly?

That man is a loose canon...only a poor gambler would bet on him. (not referring to you)

Currently he is leading all polls. And worse things have happened. Initially I said he was just wasting his time but as we go closer its seeming more like a reality

Below could be Americas first lady

freecocoa:
Funny.

Yea I thought so too, I almost died of laughter here after typing it.

freecocoa:

I guess you don't know that a guy who's been with many women is seen as badass and a woman who's been with many men, is damaged goods.

If that woman herself was proud of it, then she should never lie about the exact number of men she's been with.

Timbuktou:


Well, first of men don't have vaginaas that expand and lose integrity after years of wear and tear. And don't mention alum and co . The texture, amongst other things, is different really. Take it from a man who knows. Then the litre upon litre of jizz you guys must have accumulated over time. Ewww. Cocoa, abeg.

Yea right, Why shouldn't I mention alum and co?, doesn't it help with tightening? And I hear the vagina doesn't even slack, especially not from 'too much sêx' like really slack the way you people make it sound. Viagra is to peenis what alum is to vajayjay.

We are talking about women and suddenly condoms are unheard of, plus what does sperm have to do with anything?

It's just your mind Biko.

Timbuktou:

Your scam a scam artist. One need not be innocent to be scammed. Ignorant, yes. Innocent, not necessarily. However, in this case, there was no scam involved. I seriously doubt promises of eternal couplehood were made. It'funny we don't here of her previous sexual partners. Was she older than them all? The fax of this story is that she desperately wanted to hook this particular person and she did what she thought could keep him. Alas, she was grossly mistaken. No be her type. Neighbourhood bicycle? Tufiakwa. She miss road. Wrong move. Bad investment.

Abeg make we free that girl matter. She was selling herself dreams and chasing waterfalls. The people wailing on her behalf are not helping her cause and that of younger girls

Timbuktou:

What is wrong in men being innocent? It works to the benefit of the home as the woman's innocence does. Per your virgin comment, which is why i use the term chaste. Nobody is saying stick to the first virgin you meet. Indeed, one who isnt untouched coud very well be the perfect partner. There's a reason why certificates anred qualification demanded at job interviews. Does it mean everyone who gets an employment letter is going to perform well? Oga, ask women about their first love. First love o, and then first sex. God help the husband if he doesn't measure up to either. It's common sense really.

I don't see what innocence has to do with a marriage that needs a lot of other things to work for it to be a success. Especially when that innocence is mostly sexual

The job and certificate analogy is a bit out of place here. Qualifications imply competence or at least a basic knowledge on the job being applied for. Virginity does not imply any of that

If it were down to first love or first s€x then a lot of women would still be single. Reality and biology bites. Aimoye first love to ti marry wey all man don find square root. Wahala and grown up responsibilities no go let you remember your first knack

Timbuktou:

Sugabelly was never a victim. At no point did she say she was held against her home will. All the crazy things she did were done because she didn't want to displease her boyfriend not out of any physical compulsion. And I think it serves a valid lesson for before marriage, maybe when i get home i'll explain better my opinion.

Assuming the story is true then it could be argued she was a victim at the initial stage.

There are numerous ways women suffer abuse. A virgin can suffer emotional and psychological abuse even physical abuse. Which would leave her equally damaged so I don't see any lessons here to be learned unless you want girls to avoid boys altogether

raumdeuter:


Currently he is leading all polls. And worse things have happened. Initially I said he was just wasting his time but as we go closer its seeming more like a reality

Below could be Americas first lady

I will eat back my words should Donald Trump become President of the United States, complete with a comment of retraction on this thread stating my mistake.

Remind me when the time comes...

crackhaus:

I believe the problem being with a woman with a high body-count (darn, I hate this word) has more to do with the possibility that you might know or run into three or more men who have had sex with her in the past...and trust me, YOU do not want to be in that situation where you overhear three strangers whispering about how your beloved wife used to bounce and scream on their erect c0cks.

It's way more than that Cracky; it really does have a number of potential implications.

- A high count affects a womans ability to bond (the ability is impaired through repeat bonding and un-bonding)
- It means she is more likely to be dissatisfied with her union (having romanticised the past or having truly had better past experiences)
- A real biggie is her likelihood to cheat - unless you are sure she sees the error of promiscuity (one of men' biggest fears is being cuckolded)
- You are also more likely to take possession of a child that's not yours (probably an even bigger fear)
- It also has potential to impact, attitude, character and behaviour

- Abortions increase the incidence of cancers, later still births and overall fertility
- STD's can also affect health and fertility down the road
- Some pathologies, cervical cancer etc. are directly correlated to high levels of promiscuity

One can luck out and find someone with a high notch count who has a totally reformed outlook and no lingering health issues. But to act like it doesn't pose a potential risk and give it no consideration, is in my opinion, quite irresponsible.


TV

crackhaus:

If that woman herself was proud of it, then she should never lie about the exact number of men she's been with.

The only reason she lies about is so she is not rejected.

If people were sensible enough to know that, what is considered "bad" should be for both genders, then we wouldn't have women lying about such things.

TV01:

It's way more than that Cracky; it really does have a number of potential implications.

- A high count affects a womans ability to bond (the ability is impaired through repeat bonding and un-bonding)
- It means she is more likely to be dissatisfied with her union (having romanticised the past or having truly had better past experiences)
- A real biggie is her likelihood to cheat - unless you are sure she sees the error of promiscuity (one of men' biggest fears is being cuckolded)
- You are also more likely to take possession of a child that's not yours (probably an even bigger fear)
- It also has potential to impact, attitude, character and behaviour

- Abortions increase the incidence of cancers, later still births and overall fertility
- STD's can also affect health and fertility down the road
- Some pathologies, cervical cancer etc. are directly correlated to high levels of promiscuity

One can luck out and find someone with a high notch count who has a totally reformed outlook and no lingering health issues. But to act like it doesn't pose a potential risk and give it no consideration, is in my opinion, quite irresponsible.


TV

I agree with all this entirely.
I was trying to imply that even if all of that mean nothing to some men, the fact that one can walk into a social gathering and run into men who've had sexual relations with the beloved wife is not at all flattering...

freecocoa:
If people were sensible enough to know that, what is considered "bad" should be for both genders, then we wouldn't have women lying about such things.

Cocoa stop being daft. It is bad for both sexes, but;

1. The effects of promiscuity on the sexes differ - men are simply not as vulnerable to the physical pathologies.
2. Men and women look for different things in a mate. Some I've outlined above for men.
3. Indeed, women will rarely have issues with an experienced man - other qualities are higher priority
4. In fact, if a man is "endorsed" by similar or higher value women, the more likely the woman is to actually desire him.

Now, please get sense - and reform your ways . Or you will really hear it.


TV

TV01:

Cocoa stop being daft. It is bad for both sexes, but;

1. The effects of promiscuity on the sexes differ - men are simply not as vulnerable to the physical pathologies.
2. Men and women look for different things in a mate. Some I've outlined above for men.
3. Indeed, women will rarely have issues with an experienced men - other qualities are higher priority
4. In fact, if a man is "endorsed" by similar or higher value women, the more likely the woman is to actually desire him.

Now, please get sense - and reform your ways . Or you will really hear it.


TV

Your own is just to start insulting someone, couldn't you have said what you wanted to without calling me daft?

Who made you judge of what is bad btw? What you think, is your opinion, not a fact and which physical pathologies are you referring to?

You don't know zilch about my ways and I'm sure I get sense pass you.