For those terrorist apologist and boko sympathisers:

Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi says Daesh Takfiri terrorist group carries out the majority of its oil smuggling through Turkey.

Abadi made the remarks in a meeting with German Foreign Minister Frank Walter Steinmeier in Baghdad on Monday, during which he highlighted the “importance of stopping oil smuggling by [Daesh] terrorist gangs, the majority of which is smuggled via Turkey,” his office said in a statement.
The remarks came as tensions have been on the rise in Baghdad-Ankara relations over Turkey’s deployment of troops to northern Iraq and Daesh oil smuggling via Turkish territory.

On Saturday, Abadi urged Turkey to withdraw its several hundred forces immediately from Iraq’s northern Nineveh Province and called Ankara’s move “an incursion”.
Turkey, accused of supporting Daesh terror group, claims the deployment is a routine rotation to train Iraqis to retake Mosul from Daesh, which captured Iraq’s second-largest city in 2014.

Accusations over Turkey’s role in Daesh oil smuggling were also raised by Russia. On November 30, Russian President Vladimir Putin said he received additional information confirming that Daesh had been conducting its oil sales via Turkey.
A screen grab from a video released by the Russian Defense Ministry shows Russian jets targeting a convoy of Daesh tankers transporting oil.
Russia has on several occasions accused Turkey of buying illegal oil from Daesh. The terrorist group is smuggling oil from the areas which it has overrun in Iraq and Syria, selling it to middlemen in the region. Russian military planes, which are used for an aerial campaign against Daesh and other militant groups, have repeatedly targeted trucks used by Daesh to smuggle oil.

On November 29, Iraqi MP Mowaffak al-Rubaie said Daesh had made more than USD 800 million in black market oil sales in Turkey over the last eight months.
“This is Iraqi oil and Syrian oil, carried by trucks from Iraq, from Syria through the borders to Turkey and sold … [at] less than 50 percent of the international oil price,” Rubaie added.
He further noted that the oil is either refined and used in Turkey or sold on the international market.
Turkey has rejected oil trade with Daesh with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan saying that he will step down if the accusation is proven to be true

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/12/55514/

So, hundreds of truckload of crude can cross your border without the complicit of the authorities that matters? Maybe they have some invisible cloak that streches hundreds of kilometres, shey?

This exactly what some gentlemen gagged up in their kiddie blindman defence of a terrorist sponsoring government like Erdogan's want us to believe and accept. Now that the people that matters are confirming the say thing, what says you gringoos? Another Russian lie? This ain't Russia talking, so?

The funny and interesting aspect of these claims by both Russia and the Iraqi PM is that they only felt the urge to speak up until they were agitated by actions from Turkey.

Russia knowing about the oil smuggling kept quiet until her jets were shot down by Turkey.Iraq on the other hand kept mute all these while until it could no longer entertain Turkish incursions in Iraq.

It all boils down to,it's either there's a bigger truth that both parties(Russia and Iraq) were scared of hence their failure in admitting the illegal oil deals earlier.
OR
Their claims are just attempts at bad mouthing their new found foe-Turkey.

ISIS accomplice.
We all know how you destabilised same Iraq with fake weapons of mass destruction claims.
Bloodsuckers

ValerianSteel:
The funny and interesting aspect of these claims by both Russia and the Iraqi PM is that they only felt the urge to speak up until they were agitated by actions from Turkey.

Russia knowing about the oil smuggling kept quiet until her jets were shot down by Turkey.Iraq on the other hand kept mute all these while until it could no longer entertain Turkish incursions in Iraq.

It all boils down to,it's either there's a bigger truth that both parties(Russia and Iraq) were scared of hence their failure in admitting the illegal oil deals earlier.
OR
Their claims are just attempts at bad mouthing their new found foe-Turkey.

ValerianSteel:
The funny and interesting aspect of these claims by both Russia and the Iraqi PM is that they only felt the urge to speak up until they were agitated by actions from Turkey.

Russia knowing about the oil smuggling kept quiet until her jets were shot down by Turkey.Iraq on the other hand kept mute all these while until it could no longer entertain Turkish incursions in Iraq.

It all boils down to,it's either there's a bigger truth that both parties(Russia and Iraq) were scared of hence their failure in admitting the illegal oil deals earlier.
OR
Their claims are just attempts at bad mouthing their new found foe-Turkey.

Russia, several days before its jet was shot down had clearly stated - at the climate summit I believe - that 40 countries, including G20 members were involved in propping up ISIS through oil sales and other avenues


Lol! Now Iraq has been grouped together with Russia! Who's next should they speak up? Iran? Lol!

OAUTemitayo:
ISIS accomplice.
We all know how you destabilised same Iraq with fake weapons of mass destruction claims.
Bloodsuckers

.i have decided to stop quoting the tarfiki m.oron because Morons make me stressed up,and stress causes sickness. In other words,Valeriansteel is a dangerous tarfiki wahabbi disease that causes stress and illness..the only cure is to isolate or quarantine his posts..

OAUTemitayo:
ISIS accomplice.
We all know how you destabilised same Iraq with fake weapons of mass destruction claims.
Bloodsuckers

I've never supported the US led invasion of Iraq.It was one of humanities gross misstep against a country and it's people.

The situation here is a different one.The Syrian Civil war arose out of canpaigns and protests in line with the Arab Spring that arose in the Middle-East.The Syrian crisis is an internal conflict between the citizens of Syria and the ruling power-The Govt-Bashir Al-Assad.

No Western power initiated Syrians against the govt,instead they protested against the attrocities of a government ruling them.
The government in turn denied the voices of its people and used excessive force against them which has resulted in no less than 150,000 civilian deaths at the hands of government sanctioned killings.

Foreign powers(US-CIA,Britain special forces and French Marines) started arming,training,equiping and recruiting rebels in Syria in 2013,approximately 2years after the ongoing Civil war surfaced.

While you can say that the West took advantage of the situation,desperately and blindly arming rebels who later sidelined with islamist extremist just because they were eager to oust Al-Assad,true that,but one thing remains,the West never instigated the Syrian uprising,it never did,Syrian people voiced out for their freedom from a tyrant who pushed their democratic protest into an armed rebellion,these rebels turned to the West who gave them weapons and supported their cause but we fail to recognize that Russia had been backing Al-Assad with weapons and intelligence against his people from the beginning of the civil war,Russia and Iraq developed a joint command and control centre in Baghdad in 2012 to aid the Syrian government forces against armed rebels who were yet at that period to receive any sort of international recognition and support from the West.

ISIS came up in 2013,but they became very active in 2014 in Syria taking advantage of a country torn by civil crisis to launch terrorism.In 2014,Western led coalition began airstrikes supposedly against ISIS,prior to this period,Russia was supporting Assad's government politically and giving it weapons to retake Syria from the rebels demanding he leaves power.This is right before ISIS began a full fledged war against the state of Syria and it's neighbours.

In September 2015,by the invitation of Syria,Russia moved into Syria under the banner of Fighting ISIS and taking control of Syria from ISIS,wherewith,the Syrian government had control on 60% of its geographical entity,the remaining 40% was split between ISIS and the armed rebels.Russia airstrikes in the first two weeks targeted first the regions under rebel controls giving the Syrian forces a march order to retake these territory,the third week saw a slight move into ISIL held territory,while severely bombarding rebel strongholds.The fourth week can be said to have seen a 50% increase in airstrikes against ISIL held territories.

I think everyone here needs to go back to the timeline of events in the Syrian crisis for a better understanding of the situation cause we all seem to have become internet war strategist and analyst poising blind accusations and unfounded statements against a party not aligned to a particular opinion.

NairaMinted:


Russia, several days before its jet was shot down had clearly stated - at the climate summit I believe - that 40 countries, including G20 members were involved in propping up ISIS through oil sales and other avenues


Lol! Now Iraq has been grouped together with Russia! Who's next should they speak up? Iran? Lol!

Russia made the announcement that 40 nations were involved in the oil deals on the 16th of November without exposing intrinsic details to back up the claim to the world.It was meresay on media.

Fast-track to 24th of November,its jets were shot down by Turkey.Up till that event,it never occured to Russia to expose those involved,fast-track to six days after again,we see Russia showing images of the oil tankers it claimed to have bombed accusing Turkey of being involved.

So my point stands,if truely Russia is right about Turkey being involved,it failed to make mention of Turkish role in the ISIS oil trade up till it was aggrieved by the downing of its jets.

Same with Iraq,it never faulted Turkish incursions publicly up till it could no longer control their activities in Iraq.

As I earlier said,either there's a bigger truth they've been scared to show the world or they are trying desperately at accusing Turkey of what they can't validate.

fineguy11:
.i have decided to stop quoting the tarfiki m.oron because Morons make me stressed up,and stress causes sickness. In other words,Valeriansteel is a dangerous tarfiki wahabbi disease that causes stress and illness..the only cure is to isolate or quarantine his posts..

Try to comprehend my post before jumping to a biased conclusion.

ValerianSteel:
I've never supported the US led invasion of Iraq.It was one of humanities gross misstep against a country and it's people.

The situation here is a different one.The Syrian Civil war arose out of canpaigns and protests in line with the Arab Spring that arose in the Middle-East.The Syrian crisis is an internal conflict between the citizens of Syria and the ruling power-The Govt-Bashir Al-Assad.

No Western power initiated Syrians against the govt,instead they protested against the attrocities of a government ruling them.
The government in turn denied the voices of its people and used excessive force against them which has resulted in no less than 150,000 civilian deaths at the hands of government sanctioned killings.

Foreign powers(US-CIA,Britain special forces and French Marines) started arming,training,equiping and recruiting rebels in Syria in 2013,approximately 2years after the ongoing Civil war surfaced.

While you can say that the West took advantage of the situation,desperately and blindly arming rebels who later sidelined with islamist extremist just because they were eager to oust Al-Assad,true that,but one thing remains,the West never instigated the Syrian uprising,it never did,Syrian people voiced out for their freedom from a tyrant who pushed their democratic protest into an armed rebellion,these rebels turned to the West who gave them weapons and supported their cause but we fail to recognize that Russia had been backing Al-Assad with weapons and intelligence against his people from the beginning of the civil war,Russia and Iraq developed a joint command and control centre in Baghdad in 2012 to aid the Syrian government forces against armed rebels who were yet at that period to receive any sort of international recognition and support from the West.

ISIS came up in 2013,but they became very active in 2014 in Syria taking advantage of a country torn by civil crisis to launch terrorism.In 2014,Western led coalition began airstrikes supposedly against ISIS,prior to this period,Russia was supporting Assad's government politically and giving it weapons to retake Syria from the rebels demanding he leaves power.This is right before ISIS began a full fledged war against the state of Syria and it's neighbours.

In September 2015,by the invitation of Syria,Russia moved into Syria under the banner of Fighting ISIS and taking control of Syria from ISIS,wherewith,the Syrian government had control on 60% of its geographical entity,the remaining 40% was split between ISIS and the armed rebels.Russia airstrikes in the first two weeks targeted first the regions under rebel controls giving the Syrian forces a march order to retake these territory,the third week saw a slight move into ISIL held territory,while severely bombarding rebel strongholds.The fourth week can be said to have seen a 50% increase in airstrikes against ISIL held territories.

I think everyone here needs to go back to the timeline of events in the Syrian crisis for a better understanding of the situation cause we all seem to have become internet war strategist and analyst poising blind accusations and unfounded statements against a party not aligned to a particular opinion.

Where did Syrian protesters get the weapons they are using?
The source of the weapons is clear to all discerning mind.

OAUTemitayo:

Where did Syrian protesters get the weapons they are using?
The source of the weapons is clear to all discerning mind.

You failed to read where I mentioned who armed them

ValerianSteel:
The funny and interesting aspect of these claims by both Russia and the Iraqi PM is that they only felt the urge to speak up until they were agitated by actions from Turkey.

Russia knowing about the oil smuggling kept quiet until her jets were shot down by Turkey.Iraq on the other hand kept mute all these while until it could no longer entertain Turkish incursions in Iraq.

It all boils down to,it's either there's a bigger truth that both parties(Russia and Iraq) were scared of hence their failure in admitting the illegal oil deals earlier.
OR
Their claims are just attempts at bad mouthing their new found foe-Turkey.

Ask yourself: when did Russia get involve militarily in Syria? And what was the condition of relations between Ankara and Moscow prior to the shooting down of the fighter? And also between Iraq and Turkey, prior to the Turkish incursion into northern Iraq, notwithstanding the situation with IS on ground in Iraq? When you have answered these questions, then you should understand why such info and outcry is coming out at this time now, never minding the sensitive nature of such infos, as it relates to bilateral relationships, especially one on a larger scale. And be it known to you that even before the ugly incident of the down plane occurred, Moscow, during the G-20 meeting, had said earlier that, '' 40 nations are sponsoring ISIS, by having direct and indirect dealings with it, and that ''some members of the G20 (Turkey is a member) are involved in its illicit oil.''
That was wayback before the crisis started between the two. And it didnt take long for Turkey to expose it self, just as they are currently exposing themselves now over in Syria. Fighting ISIS is the litmus test, and anyone that signed up to fight and defeat ISIS only to turn around and do the opposite, is prima facie, in bed with ISIS. There are no two ways to it.

Again, the likes of Iran have also been complaining about Turkey - IS dealing, way before the Russian intervention: and even the US vice president in 2014, have lambasted Turkey for supporting and aiding ISIS. How best can one aid and support ISIS order than in weaponry and trading their oil? By Marrying their wives or what?

No matter how one try to spin it, Turkey is in bed with ISIS. Its no longer secret.

ValerianSteel:
I've never supported the US led invasion of Iraq.It was one of humanities gross misstep against a country and it's people.

The situation here is a different one.The Syrian Civil war arose out of canpaigns and protests in line with the Arab Spring that arose in the Middle-East.The Syrian crisis is an internal conflict between the citizens of Syria and the ruling power-The Govt-Bashir Al-Assad.

No Western power initiated Syrians against the govt..

I have already answered you on this Syrian uprising issue in a similar thread, so i won't go into details anymore. But one thing you have always failed to grasp, is the concept of the Arab Spring - so called ''democrative fever'' that swept the arab realm, and was chorusly echoed by the MSM as ''the Arab awakening''. Like i said, i won't go into details, cos i just don't have the power to. But i want you to sit down and ask yourself these mind buggling questions:

What was the purpose of the Arab spring?

My small head answer: to usher in democrasy. Right? Good.

Why democracy?
To bring about good governance and respect for fundamental human rights.

What was the expected end result of such a historic process? To have swept all accross the major arab realm and create an enabling process of transformation.

Now lets consider this: what has the arab spring brought five years after? What laws has it created, what new mentality has it aroused amongst the affected States and its people? Today, Tunisia is Tunisia, aside president Abidine, and was never even doing badly economically prior to the Spring. Egypt is still Egypt, with the exception of Mubarak, the country has remain unchanged, and has even taken a more hardened stance against such processes like protesting. Kuwait, Oman, Lebanon et al, saw some minor constitutional changes, but nothing more. The women still wear the sacred jihab, the old ways of life are still the same. The various economics are still mostly centred on natural resource production. So, what good has it brought in its wake? It, in deed, brought a whole lot of good called ''chaos'' - a long time strategy of the US led Anglo Zionist empire of death. The arab spring was meant to create a ''democratic commotion'' that appears in all entirety legit, appealing to the sympathy of the general public, and thus eliciting their support, and which consequently create the much needed impetus and perfect excuse for the dark knight hiding in the shadows to act. This is what is called ''colour coded revolutions'', making use of crowd formations and infiltration, the social medias, NGOs, and other wide varieties of ways. It is imperative to understand that this suffocating but however sophisticated tool for toppling regimes, fits in well against nations of core islamic origin, due to their islamic ways of life, its strong anthemic religious spirit of collectivism, its belief system and general consensus to act in mutuality; all of which makes it the more volatile and easy to sway - hence, the massive spread of the spring. But in all, the AS was meant to achieve mainly TWO DEFINED GOALS- topple and reshape - of the target States, using '' the strategy of divide and conquer'' which is the ultimate reason for the ''chaos''. That is why the only nations that saw outright intervention as the drama unfold was Libya, because they discovered that it wasnt going to plan (just like Syria now) and so they had to move in, under the ruse notion of ''humanity'' , and Ghadaffi was lynched. But many didnt take note of what was going on: how that Ghadafi switched from using the US Dollar to local currency usage in Libya's oil dealings with its buyers, a ''bad'' precedent set by Saddam Hussein, and we all knew how he suddenly got WMD that only existed in Satan's tongue of wonders. Neither did many knew that the Libyan rebels while fighting Ghadafi, had a quickly set up quasi-central Bank within their area. Nor did many consider that there was same reason of government killing of protesters in Cairo, but no NATO Intervention. Why? Its not part of the grand plan. Just as Qatar, and above all, Satan Arabia that still stone people to death, execute christians till date, was not even touch by the AS, let alone NATO interferance. Assad was already towing the same Hussein non-Dollar deals.
They couldnt achieve complete interferance in Syria because Russia threatens complete annihilation of Riyadh, if Assad falls. But the course is still on.

And to show that this was all part of the plan, it was carefully stated by this US General:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-going-to-take-out-7-countries-in-5-years-iraq-syria-lebanon-libya-somalia-sudan-iran/5166

That is the war Syria is facing now. Sudan broken up, Libya, destroyed, Ghadafi dead. Iraq, destroyed and still bleeding, Lebanon shakened, though Hezbollah stood gallantly against Isreal. Somalia is dying a natural death. Iran is for now mission impossible.
SYRIA....

NairaMinted:


Russia, several days before its jet was shot down had clearly stated - at the climate summit I believe - that 40 countries, including G20 members were involved in propping up ISIS through oil sales and other avenues


Lol! Now Iraq has been grouped together with Russia! Who's next should they speak up? Iran? Lol!

I strongly believe at the summit, Russia must have told them to stop the oil or source of funding for the ISIL, rebels before openly, publicly destroying the illegal oil tanks. But they obviously refuse. I am 110% sure, Putin would never destroy it without informing them to stop first via its diplomatic channels and the summit is one perfect time where he must have told them.. (Mind you, Putin or Russia knew but always waiting for the right time to press the right button.. A real chess master here I would say)

During the summit the only thing revealed was there are 40 nations supporting the iIegal oil trade and some G20 inclusive. Afterwards( or When they refuse to stop the trade), he decided to bomb those illegal oil tanks.. ANd in return Turkey shut down SU-24.. Turkey did just one thing here.. Openly accepted that, yes Turkey is one of them and what will Russia do.....( I am suspecting Turkey with the same miscreants in the oil busi meaning the rest 39 countries gave turkey go ahead here)

Then Russia went ahead to show the illegal oil trade.. Now Russia only revealed one country out of 40 countries because Turkey decided to show itself.. One of the G20 members.

So, there are still 39 other countries in the illegal oil business.