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Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by philGeo(m): 9:17pm On Dec 10, 2015
abduljabbar4:
Blackfire u are no longer interested in the debate ne? grin'
Hahahahahaha
I have a video for you, how many times have Islam talk about Muhammad? And how many times it talk about Jesus? Is their any chapter about Muhammad family? But there is about JESUS Family? Merriam is the chapter, Muhammad is death and he will never raise again but Jesus will come again, i could have love to teach you more about islam and CHRISTIANITY.
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by freshvine(f): 9:18pm On Dec 10, 2015
Trioxocarbonate:


You mean the old testament was/were man made?
And you (Christians) saw God? A certain verse in your buybul says no man can see God and be alive. I have forgotten the verse.



You are only deluding yourself.

Good day.

Old testament was inspired by God believe. New testament became law and tenets to which it believers subscribed to.

There are 3 trinity in one Christian God. God the Father, God the son( Jesus) and God the Holy Spirit.

Jesus said I and my father are one. He who believe in me is saved

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Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by knaa: 9:25pm On Dec 10, 2015
abduljabbar4:

NO! If even if there is, Islam doesnt teach it
neither does christianity teach it. stop spilling trash. core christians in USA are against the gay law and guess what if that law was made by referandum it wont have stood. there are a lot of gay practices here in d north even in a religious state like jigawa where i reside, all muslims though Islam dosent preach such
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by nkwako: 9:28pm On Dec 10, 2015
abduljabbar4:

You are lying to the wrong man mr! I go to the middle east yearly and i live in the north and i have never heard of any case of homosexuality. So thats how you decieve people with false information right?



Pls not talking religion here but don't spit that shit saying homosexualism is not rampant in the north....kano katsina that's where u find them..
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by abduljabbar4(m): 9:29pm On Dec 10, 2015
crazysaint:


You're nothing but a big a fool... you're even proud of this useless religion call Islam, without being ashame...

Go fvck ur mum id!otic bastard!
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by koma1(m): 9:31pm On Dec 10, 2015
philGeo:
I have a video for you, how many times have Islam talk about Muhammad? And how many times it talk about Jesus? Is their any chapter about Muhammad family? But there is about JESUS Family? Merriam is the chapter, Muhammad is death and he will never raise again but Jesus will come again, i could have love to teach you more about islam and CHRISTIANITY.
What some of you fail to understand is that Muslims value and respect Jesus more than Christians
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by abduljabbar4(m): 9:37pm On Dec 10, 2015
nkwako:




Pls not talking religion here but don't spit that shit saying homosexualism is not rampant in the north....kano katsina that's where u find them..

See, keep ur lies to urself. Im a full-blooded northerner residing in the north . Mu bama luadi a Arewa. Makaryata kawai
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by nkwako: 9:37pm On Dec 10, 2015
knaa:

neither does christianity teach it. stop spilling trash. core christians in USA are against the gay law and guess what if that law was made by referandum it wont have stood. there are a lot of gay practices here in d north even in a religious state like jigawa where i reside, all muslims though Islam dosent preach such

Abduljabar even when Jesus said he hated homosexualism on no account did he instruct us to kill them...one thing about Christianity is christ made it clear that vengeance is of the Lord....that's why it seems Christians are passive towards homosexualism...we as Christians can only inform them that its a sin but we can't stop them from going to church...kill them or forcefully change them because even God gave us the free will to serve him

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Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by philGeo(m): 9:39pm On Dec 10, 2015
koma1:

What some of you fail to understand is that Muslims value and respect Jesus more than Christians
Brother calm down, any Muslim that read Quran all and understand it and he did not convert, it will be a pity, i can give you assignment in Quran now, can you do it, i will give you the chapters to read and i will ask you. Can you do it? Nairalands please bears me witness.
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by nkwako: 9:42pm On Dec 10, 2015
abduljabbar4:


See, keep ur lies to urself. Im a full-blooded northerner residing in the north . Mu bama luadi a Arewa. Makaryata kawai

If u like be over bloated northerner na U sabi ...that's d truth do your research..it's hidden not pronounced piece of advice parade yourself as 1that might just be the proof u need
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by gists: 9:59pm On Dec 10, 2015
freshvine:


That's Judaism and Abrahaic believes.

Christianity started with Jesus Christ.

Show me a page in the new testament and I'd become a Muslim
I didn't want to say anything on this thread until I read your post.
Trust me, I am not doing this to make you convert as you said.
I am only doing this to help you in eradicating your ignorance
so you won't talk carelessly in future - especially in public forum.
So, here are just a few to wet your appetite:

Matt. 3:12 (Jesus referring to the Pharisees and Sadducees i.e people)
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

What would have said if the Quran said pluck off your eye in order to enter heaven. Here is what Jesus said IN NEW TESTAMENT

Matt. 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matt. 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

I know you believe the Quran was spread by the power of the sword. But here is what the Bible says again in the New testament
Matthew 10:34
Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.


Lets move over to Corinthians
1 Corinthians 15:24
[Jesus] will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power.

15:25
For Christ must reign until he humbles all his enemies beneath his feet.

Micah 15:5
I will execute vengeance in anger and fury on the heathen, such as they have not heard.

Romans 13:1-4
God has allowed for just wars throughout the history of His people. From Abraham to Deborah to David, God’s people have fought as instruments of judgment from a righteous and holy God.

I am also sure you critisize islam for marginalising women. Let's turn to the New testament book of 1 Timothy 2:12
But i suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence (their is another translation that said women MUST BE IN SILENCE

And finally (at least for now)
Luke 19:27
But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence.

BUT WAIT!!!
Before you click the reply link, PLEASE don't bother to explain these verse BECAUSE YOU DID NOT ALLOW MUSLIMS to explain their verses too. So save your explanations since you didn't care about ours tongue tongue tongue

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Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by gcof(m): 10:16pm On Dec 10, 2015
It is only the holy spirit that gives understanding to them that believe, bible is not a book you just open and read, it is a book you ask the holy spirit for understanding before you read. I don't know about the quran. But the fact is that all the terrible incidents the world has been experiencing lately were caused by muslims so quoting death passages in the bible doesn't change anything because none of the attacks were caused by christians. When one finger touches oil,it spreads to other fingers

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Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by AyeeIdris(f): 10:23pm On Dec 10, 2015
freshvine:


In today christiandom, it's only serve for reference purposes only and it's that version of the Bible that gave Islam it's doctrine.

Christ came and abolish the old way of believe

Hehe. Yet when it comes to justifying tithes, no one remembers that it is just for references. Old testament Christian God is still the same new testament Christian God...Bo! To each his own. Your deeds on earth, not your religion willlead you to heaven. Study the Koran yourself and form an opinion, not distorted pieces that people take to justify their hate for the religion without relating it to the context it was given.

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Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by seankay(m): 10:26pm On Dec 10, 2015
All Muslims are not Terrorists but we can't differentiate them angry
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by meforyou1(m): 10:27pm On Dec 10, 2015
abduljabbar4:

You are lying to the wrong man mr! I go to the middle east yearly and i live in the north and i have never heard of any case of homosexuality. So thats how you decieve people with false information right?
u are a lying boko haram

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Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Dfinex(f): 10:37pm On Dec 10, 2015
gists:

I didn't want to say anything on this thread until I read your post.
Trust me, I am not doing this to make you convert as you said.
I am only doing this to help you in eradicating your ignorance
so you won't talk carelessly in future - especially in public forum.
So, here are just a few to wet your appetite:

Matt. 3:12 (Jesus referring to the Pharisees and Sadducees i.e people)
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

What would have said if the Quran said pluck off your eye in order to enter heaven. Here is what Jesus said IN NEW TESTAMENT

Matt. 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Matt. 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

I know you believe the Quran was spread by the power of the sword. But here is what the Bible says again in the New testament
Matthew 10:34
Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.


Lets move over to Corinthians
1 Corinthians 15:24
[Jesus] will turn the Kingdom over to God the Father, having destroyed every ruler and authority and power.

15:25
For Christ must reign until he humbles all his enemies beneath his feet.

Micah 15:5
I will execute vengeance in anger and fury on the heathen, such as they have not heard.

Romans 13:1-4
God has allowed for just wars throughout the history of His people. From Abraham to Deborah to David, God’s people have fought as instruments of judgment from a righteous and holy God.

I am also sure you critisize islam for marginalising women. Let's turn to the New testament book of 1 Timothy 2:12
But i suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence (their is another translation that said women MUST BE IN SILENCE

And finally (at least for now)
Luke 19:27
But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and kill them in my presence.

BUT WAIT!!!
Before you click the reply link, PLEASE don't bother to explain these verse BECAUSE YOU DID NOT ALLOW MUSLIMS to explain their verses too. So save your explanations since you didn't care about ours tongue tongue tongue

Please beg God for divine understanding of those words and he will give you..... That is if you deserve it cos I can see that those words are way too tricky for ur brain to process. No insult meant, just an advise.
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Dfinex(f): 10:40pm On Dec 10, 2015
gcof:
It is only the holy spirit that gives understanding to them that believe, bible is not a book you just open and read, it is a book you ask the holy spirit for understanding before you read. I don't know about the quran. But the fact is that all the terrible incidents the world has been experiencing lately were caused by muslims so quoting death passages in the bible doesn't change anything because none of the attacks were caused by christians. When one finger touches oil,it spreads to other fingers

Gbam!!!!!, please tell them o

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Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by gists: 10:43pm On Dec 10, 2015
gcof:
It is only the holy spirit that gives understanding to them that believe, bible is not a book you just open and read, it is a book you ask the holy spirit for understanding before you read. I don't know about the quran. But the fact is that all the terrible incidents the world has been experiencing lately were caused by muslims so quoting death passages in the bible doesn't change anything because none of the attacks were caused by christians. When one finger touches oil,it spreads to other fingers
Ignorance is a disease. Educate yourself in order to know your true enemy.
A canadian site presented a research done by FBI just recently and concluded Non-Muslims
Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America.
You are being brainwashed by the mainstream media.
Do yourself a facour, de-programme your brain!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

In fairness, even some aspects of mainstream media has published this information:
Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/01/06/muslim.radicalization.study/

10 Non-Islamic Terrorist Organisations
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-non-islamic-terrorist-organisations/


Dfinex:

Please beg God for divine understanding of those words and he will give you..... That is if you deserve it cos I can see that those words are way too tricky for ur brain to process. No insult meant, just an advise.
Just a simple question and may God bless you if you are sincere enough to answer this question honestly:
Did you beg God for devine understanding when you qouted the Quran?

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Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by freshvine(f): 10:55pm On Dec 10, 2015
AyeeIdris:


Hehe. Yet when it comes to justifying tithes, no one remembers that it is just for references. Old testament Christian God is still the same new testament Christian God...Bo! To each his own. Your deeds on earth, not your religion willlead you to heaven. Study the Koran yourself and form an opinion, not distorted pieces that people take to justify their hate for the religion without relating it to the context it was given.

Jesus confirm he didn't came to abolish the laws but to to fulfill it. Part of the laws he reference are still upheld by Christians and the ones he didn't justify made them Abrahams put him to death.

When apostle Peter draw the dagger to confront Jesus captives, he was stopped!

One thing I know about Jesus Christ was he was righteous while on earth. He didn't wage war, marry, kill or molest young children unlike Mohammed. In that regard, I really don't need any Koran read up to know which religion is acceptable
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Dfinex(f): 10:55pm On Dec 10, 2015
Trioxocarbonate:



Are you a trinitarian or anglican? Are you a seven day advent or coptic xtain?

Do you believe in all the bibles including the one (Catholic) that has 73 books?

BlackFire, the audience are waiting for you.

Yes there are different denominations in christendom but it will in interest u to know that we don't go about disturbing the whole world with psychopathic behaviors, so do urself a favor and tell urself the truth.... Religion of peace indeed!!!!!! .
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Amberon: 10:56pm On Dec 10, 2015
that's true! but y'all are terrorist bombers cheesy
abduljabbar4:
Of course, we the Muslims are not gay
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Dfinex(f): 11:00pm On Dec 10, 2015
gists:

Ignorance is a disease. Educate yourself in order to know your true enemy.
A canadian site presented a research done by FBI just recently and concluded Non-Muslims
Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America.
You are being brainwashed by the mainstream media.
Do yourself a facour, de-programme your brain!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

In fairness, even some aspects of mainstream media has published this information:
Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/01/06/muslim.radicalization.study/

10 Non-Islamic Terrorist Organisations
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-non-islamic-terrorist-organisations/



Just a simple question and may God bless you if you are sincere enough to answer this question honestly:
Did you beg God for devine understanding when you qouted the Quran?

How can I quote the Quran, am I mad?? I no fit try am na.........
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Amberon: 11:00pm On Dec 10, 2015
Capital NO. we are not saved by our deeds. We are saved by grace. As many as do not accept Christ as their saviour will not see the kingdom of GOD. that's the difference BTW Christians and Muslims.
AyeeIdris:


Hehe. Yet when it comes to justifying tithes, no one remembers that it is just for references. Old testament Christian God is still the same new testament Christian God...Bo! To each his own. Your deeds on earth, not your religion willlead you to heaven. Study the Koran yourself and form an opinion, not distorted pieces that people take to justify their hate for the religion without relating it to the context it was given.
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Amberon: 11:02pm On Dec 10, 2015
But all terrorists are Muslims. We can't differentiate them and anyone of them can become radicalised at any point, that's why the U.S.A is implementing a total ban on ISLAM.
seankay:
All Muslims are not Terrorists but we can't differentiate them angry
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by gists: 11:05pm On Dec 10, 2015
Amberon:
Capital NO. we are not saved by our deeds. We are saved by grace. As many as do not accept Christ as their saviour will not see the kingdom of GOD. that's the difference BTW Christians and Muslims.
Absolutely correct!!
I mean, like a pastor who obviously has given his life but still build private schools (from the church members' offering/tithe) with school fees well above the reach of average church member. Similarly, the private jet pastors going around the world spreading the word while the local members leave in poverty. These clergies don't need to account for their deeds because the have given their lives to christ and so they will be saved by grace- abi?
SMH
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Lucasbalo(m): 11:09pm On Dec 10, 2015
Why are people fighting over religions that have brought sadness and tragedy to humans from Crusades, Inquisitions and the present Islamic Jihad. You can believe in God without religious fundamentalism where the real problem is. Religion is turning to the Opium for the people.
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by gists: 11:10pm On Dec 10, 2015
Amberon:
But all terrorists are Muslims. We can't differentiate them and anyone of them can become radicalised at any point, that's why the U.S.A is implementing a total ban on ISLAM.
Dylann Roof - the guy who killed 9 christians while in their church is not a terrorist abi? Because he is not a muslim so he can't/shouldn't be tagged a terrorist abi?
Abeg I won go sleep. Lots of senseless posts.
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by gists: 11:12pm On Dec 10, 2015
Lucasbalo:
Why are people fighting over religions that have brought sadness and tragedy to humans from Crusades, Inquisitions and the present Islamic Jihad. You can believe in God without religious fundamentalism where the real problem is. Religion is turning to the Opium for the people.
At least you make some sense jare.
BUT I dare say religion itself is not the problem but man's interpretation of religion.
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Amberon: 11:12pm On Dec 10, 2015
America is doing something no Muslim country is doing. Religion is not a way tip govern a people. Their constitution states homosexuality is legal. Christianity says otherwise.

You do realise that apostates are killed in Muslim countries right? honor killings take Place, no freedom of worship, no freedom of speech, no gender equality, terrorism etc You should the problems in Muslim countries before attacking the U.S. for its. laws.
abduljabbar4:


You see ur problem! I said "America" and u changed it to christianity
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Dfinex(f): 11:12pm On Dec 10, 2015
abduljabbar4:


You can only decieve urself man. Christianity is synonymous with devil worshipping

All along I thought u had some good arguments to put forward in favor of ur religion , not until u made this comment. Guy u don f-up!!!
Now I know you are no different from ur crude herds men brothers.
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by gcof(m): 11:13pm On Dec 10, 2015
gists:

Ignorance is a disease. Educate yourself in order to know your true enemy.
A canadian site presented a research done by FBI just recently and concluded Non-Muslims
Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America.
You are being brainwashed by the mainstream media.
Do yourself a facour, de-programme your brain!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

In fairness, even some aspects of mainstream media has published this information:
Study: Threat of Muslim-American terrorism in U.S. exaggerated
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/01/06/muslim.radicalization.study/

10 Non-Islamic Terrorist Organisations
http://www.wonderslist.com/10-non-islamic-terrorist-organisations/



Just a simple question and may God bless you if you are sincere enough to answer this question honestly:
Did you beg God for devine understanding when you qouted the Quran?
do you think muslims are marginalized? Why would 90% not be seen and only 10% known to the whole world? you can believe it or not ,the fact still remains that all terrorists are muslims and all muslims are potential terrorists
Re: Rev. Graham: ‘no Muslims Should Be Allowed Into United State Of America by Lucasbalo(m): 11:13pm On Dec 10, 2015
gists:

At least you make some sense jare.
BUT I dare say religion itself is not the problem but man's interpretation of religion.
That's where fundamentalism comes in.

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