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Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 5:08pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
OPCNAIRALAND: looool! that was a lie written by your brother! theres no proof that hausas were involved, nor was it implied in the article that hausas had anything to do with it. but the yoruba were dubbed as one of the dominant ethnicities in the article, please refer to my earlier posts!!! now FOH! you inferior being! |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by kaura5000: 5:09pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Although i already told you i don't accept Wikipedia as source... who knows wetter you edit it... the general knowledge was know Yoruba were slaves Hausa were never slaves... although they might be Hausa speakers.... Yoruba were known as nago in Brazil idiot |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by OPCNAIRALAND: 5:10pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: Ohohohoh....mofo, there was no Ghana or Nigeria. ![]() ![]() What else you got? 2 Likes |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by kaura5000: 5:10pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Don't give me Wikipedia source you piece of shit.. now tell me origin of your name you stupid slave |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by OPCNAIRALAND: 5:12pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
kaura5000: Lmao.... ![]() ![]() ![]() What else you got? |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by kaura5000: 5:13pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Please endeavor to know the difference between Hausa speakers and Hausa people... |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by kaura5000: 5:14pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
I would tell you what i got .. when you tell me origin of the name Yoruba.. OPCNAIRALAND: |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 5:15pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
OPCNAIRALAND: wtf ![]() |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Fulaman198(m): 6:35pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Not cool seeing Hausa and Yoruba people fighting on this thread. Get along guys. 3 Likes |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 7:05pm On Dec 14, 2015 |
Fulaman198: nothing serious. just having a bit of harmless fun. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:25am On Dec 15, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: Shut up ode! The Bahia slave rebellion was conducted by Ethnic yorubas and hausas, Hausa descendants of slaves are also present in salaga It's general knowledge that the slaves taken to Bahia came from the bight of Benin. .where slave traders were yoruba and Dahomeans. Hausa couldn't have met themselves in Bahia without being slaves to yorubas first. You have no proof that slave masters stripped them off their identity, giving new names is so far from stripping their identities. the slaves knew where they came from, except children or descendant of slaves shipped in but the first generation themselves knew all about their home. the Europeans kept records of the slaves they shipped and where they were shipped to. . You iidiots were sold by we yorubas Ahuna - Ahuna was a Nagô slave who lived in Salvador. He travelled frequently to Santo Amaro where his owner had a sugar plantation. It has been suggested that his presence was a key factor in the timing of the rebellion. Pacífico Lucatan - Lucatan was a Nagô slave who worked as a tobacco roller. He was in prison at the time of the rebellion, and one of the main goals was to free him. Luís Sanim - Sanim was a Nupe slave who also worked as a tobacco roller. He ran a fund where each member contributed a day's wages for slave labor, presumably monthly, and this money was divided into three parts: one part for cloth to make Muslim garments; a part to masters' portions of slave wages—since Malê slaves did not work on Fridays; and one part to help buy letters of manumission. Manoel Calafate - Calafate travelled to Santo Amaro to mobilize rebels on the eve of the uprising. He took an active part in the fighting and appears to have been killed in Palace Square. Elesbão do Corma - Elesbão do Corma was a HAUSA freedman who was known in the African community as DANDARA. He owned a tobacco shop which was also used as a meeting place for Malês. He also travelled through the Recôncavo for his business, and brought the Muslim faith to slaves on the plantations there.[16] Hausa communities cannot be relevant cause you lack a strong culture. Yorubas took Isese to the americas, so did Ewes and Fon with Vodun.. Igbo were also enslaved..probably in the greatest numbers, but no igbo community survives in the Americas. Wolof, fulani, Congo were also taken as slaves but no Wolof or fulani community survives in the Americas. .. Only people with a rich and deep culture could have survived... not totally islamized hausas . You people have it easy accepting ur defeat and love to remain conquered 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:33am On Dec 15, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: Hausa speakers, not hausa ![]() Fvcking maggot slaves 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:33am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof:Okay. Meanwhile the dweeb can't cite where he got the idea that hausas were amongst the Bahia or whatever, so he resorts to lies. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:35am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof: Okay. I'm sure your father knows our original Nilo-Saharan language. Dakiki ![]() |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:38am On Dec 15, 2015 |
Lool! Only yoruba culture is exhibited in these areas because no other ethnicity had as many slaved as they did. Your race should be in the Guinness world records. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:40am On Dec 15, 2015 |
kaura5000: Ok lemme give the moronic hausa slaves another source ![]() In many cases slaves held their new faith in Christianity and their African beliefs at the same time, and sought to fuse the two. For Muslim Africans this was less possible. In 1835 in Bahia, the largest slave rebellion in Brazil was organized by Muslim Yoruba and Hausa slaves and directed against the whites and against nonbelievers. http://history-world.org/African%20Diaspora.htm You'll say I edited that too ![]() |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by tpiar: 1:41am On Dec 15, 2015 |
Yoruba were not the most enslaved though, probably Angola, or SE . @ Morrowcaligari. btw you dont seem Hausa. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:42am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof: Can you quote exactly where it mentions hausa in that article? Liar! Whatever the case I'm sure my Hausa brothers, even if by some miracle were enslaved would never work with a race of sub humans like yours, that's how I know youre lying!!! |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:43am On Dec 15, 2015 |
tpiar: Loool! What do you mean I don't seem hausa?? |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by tpiar: 1:45am On Dec 15, 2015 |
Hausa are laid back, they dont spend time arguing. The only person who did that here was an AA guy of Hausa ancestry, ie his parents were Hausa but he was AA. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:47am On Dec 15, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: Read you iidiot, read. I know it's difficult for an hausa man to get ssense but try. .defile all sstupidity in ur genes and gain some intelligence Hausa communities cannot be relevant cause you lack a strong culture. Yorubas took Isese to the americas, so did Ewes and Fon with Vodun.. Igbo were also enslaved..probably in the greatest numbers, but no igbo community survives in the Americas. Wolof, fulani, Congo were also taken as slaves but no Wolof or fulani community survives in the Americas. .. Only people with a rich and deep culture could have survived... not totally islamized hausas 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:49am On Dec 15, 2015 |
tpiar: What is AA? Usually I wouldn't disturb myself with petty issues like this but if I'm being honest with you I'm just bored. I have nothing better to do with my life right now. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:51am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof: You referenced an article, now I ask where the article mentions hausa. And like I said, your culture survived because your numbers exceed that of any other ethnicity there Stop dodging my questions |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:53am On Dec 15, 2015 |
OPCNAIRALAND: ![]() ![]() ![]() I mean 200 years and counting, under fulani domination. Gosh! I weep for hausas ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by tpiar: 1:54am On Dec 15, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: African American. |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:55am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof: What is fulani domination I ask ![]() Im.becile ![]() Is this what you've resorted to? Bunsuru kawai ![]() Biri da wando |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:55am On Dec 15, 2015 |
tpiar: Ooh...thanks |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 1:56am On Dec 15, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: You must be very stuupid to call this harmless fun. You and kaura never meant anything less than harm. I mean who opens a thread to downplay the Oyo empire, worse try to elevate hausaland over it 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 1:59am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof: Well you're pissed because what he's saying is true. The Hausa states did raze Oyo did they not? When was Oyo established? Who even knew of oyo before the 17th century? When the Nupes were busy bullying you! For me, it's just harmless fun, to you it's more than that because it's the bitter truth you can't fathom ![]() |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 2:05am On Dec 15, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: ![]() ![]() Here it is again Read from the Heading : The people and the Gods in exile. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by macof(m): 2:09am On Dec 15, 2015 |
MorrowCaligari: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Of course, truth to the inherently stuupid who can't tell facts from fiction 1 Like |
Re: Lies About Oyo Empire by Nobody: 2:11am On Dec 15, 2015 |
macof:maybe i am indeed stuupid because i cant find a single darn place where hausa is mentioned in this article, but yoruba is all over the place The People And Gods In exile Africans brought as slaves to America faced a peculiar series of problems. Working conditions were exhausting and life for most slaves was often "nasty, brutish, and short." Family formation was made difficult because of the general shortage of women carried in the slave trade, a situation made even worse where the ratio of men to women was sometimes as much as three to one. To this was added the insecurity of slave status in which family members might be separated by sale or by the masters' whim. Still, most slaves lived in family units even if their marriages were not always sanctioned by the religion of their masters. Throughout the Americas, wherever Africans were brought, aspects of their language, religion, artistic sensibilities, and other elements of culture survived. To some extent the amount of continuity depended on the intensity and volume of the slave trade from a particular area. Yoruba culture, for example, was particularly strong in northeastern Brazil because the trade between it and the Bight of Benin was heavy and continuous in the early 19th century. During certain periods, Akan peoples predominated in Jamaica, while Ewe or Dahomeans predominated in Haiti. Some slaveholders tried to mix up the slaves on their plantations so that strong African identities would be lost, but colonial dependence on slavers who dealt continually with the same region tended to undercut such policies. In the reality of slavery in the Americas, Africans had to adapt and change and to incorporate other African peoples and their ideas and customs. Moreover, there were also the ways and customs of the masters that were both imposed and adopted. Thus, what emerged as Afro-American culture reflected specific African roots adapted to a new reality. Afro-American culture was dynamic and creative in this sense. Religion was an obvious example of continuity and adaptation. Slaves were converted to Catholicism by Spaniards and Portuguese, and slaves were capable of fervent devotion as members of Black Catholic brotherhoods some of which were organized by African origins. Still, African religious ideas and practices did not die out, and many African slaves were accused of "witchcraft" by the Inquisition in those colonies. In the English islands, obeah was the name given to the African religious practices, and the men and women knowledgeable in them were held in high regard within the community. In Brazilian candomble (Yoruba) and Haitian Vodun (Aja), rather fully developed versions of African religion flourished and continue until the present, despite attempts to suppress them. The reality of the Middle Passage meant that religious ideas and concepts were easier to transfer than the institutional aspects of religion. Without religious specialists or a priestly class, aspects of African religions were changed or transformed by contact with other African peoples as well as with colonial society. In many cases slaves held their new faith in Christianity and their African beliefs at the same time, and sought to fuse the two. For Muslim Africans this was less possible. In 1835 in Bahia, the largest slave rebellion in Brazil was organized by Muslim Yoruba and Hausa slaves and directed against the whites and against nonbelievers. Resistance and rebellion were other aspects of African- American history. Recalcitrance, running away, and direct confrontation were present wherever slaves were held. As early as 1508 African runaways disrupted communications on Hispaniola, and in 1527 a plot to rebel was uncovered in Mexico City. Throughout the Americas communities of runaway slaves formed. In Jamaica, Colombia, Venezuela, Haiti, and Brazil runaway communities were continuous and persistent. In Brazil, during the 17th century, Palmares, an enormous runaway slave kingdom with numerous villages and a population of perhaps 8,000 to 10,000 people, resisted Portuguese and Dutch attempts to destroy it for a century. Although its inhabitants were both Creoles and Africans of various backgrounds, its origins, organization, and leadership were Angolan. In Jamaica, the runaway "Maroons" were able to gain some independence and a recognition of their freedom. So-called ethnic slave rebellions organized by a particular African group were relatively common in the Caribbean and Brazil in the 18th century. In North America where reinforcement from the slave trade was less important, resistance was also important, but it was based less on African origins or ethnicities. Perhaps, the most remarkable story of African American resistance is found in the forests of Suriname, a former Dutch plantation colony. There large numbers of slaves ran off in the 18th century and mounted an almost perpetual war in the rain forest against the various expeditions sent to hunt them down. Those captured were brutally executed, but eventually a truce developed. Today about 50,000 Maroon descendants still live in Suriname and French Guiana. The Suriname Maroons maintained many aspects of their West African background in terms of language, kinship relations, and religious beliefs, but these were fused with new forms and ways drawn from European and American Indian contacts resulting from their New World experience. From this fusion based on their own creativity, a truly Afro-American culture was created. so please point it out for me, you lying piece of rat sh.iiit!!!!!!!! i could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and crap an argument better than yours. |
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