ccollins:
Bro, I agree sir but then comment through the eyes of 1 Corinthians 13

Lolzz Collins...I will do that

Anas09
This is specifically for you. The absurdity of claiming Noah was 'genetically pure'

Let's assume by this phrase is meant his genes were unadulterated. Noah got his genes from his father and mother, so these would have to be 'genetically pure' themselves to transmit this 'purity' to Noah. His grand parents as well, and so forth. All his brothers and sisters would be equally 'genetically pure' seeing they descended from the same loins.

At the time of his flood, God is very particular about who to save. His own blood brothers and sisters and even parents are excluded. His father died 5 years to the flood. How plausible is it that only one man has 'pure genes'? It is impossible except you argue all the rest of 'pure genes' had somewhat perished right up to the flood.

But if there were other 'pure genes' who died of other natural causes right up to the flood, this means Noah was not the only guy with 'pure genes'.

Further, Noah's wife was either of 'pure genes' or 'impure genes'.

If she was of 'impure genes', then the whole exercise of destroying 'impure genes' is in vain as God sneaks in some into the ark.

If she had pure genes, then both her parents had to have had 'pure genes' as well and this even makes it more implausible that only 2 guys in the entire earth had 'pure genes'

And further, if she had 'pure genes', then the only carriers of 'impure genes' to the ark would have to be Noah's daughters in law. But if they had impure genes, and we see the sons commanded to multiply no fill the earth, then God directly replenished the earth with some fresh batch of 'impure genes' right after destroying the first lot.

This is the consequence of Redding your own ideas into the text of the scriptures; absurdities and illogical conclusions

8Charity never faileth: but whether there be
prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues,
they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall
vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that
which is in part shall be done away.

and then very importantly to ears of Christians here because the value of this chapter is underrated in many churches but I thank God for revelation of His Truth;
lastly, verse 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three;
but the greatest of these is charity.

vooks:


You are back

Job 2:3 (KJV)
And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause

Walk us through the distinction between PERFECT and UPRIGHT

Good people, I have just mentioned Serpent Seed and he comes one proponent. What was so special about Seth? Was his DNA pure? Ok. You mean ONLY Noah was the living descendant of Seth at the time of the flood?

as much as i dont agree with brahamites, i don't see where d person u quoted said anything in support of William Braham's errors. Asking what was so special about seth shows uv never consciously traced the genealogy of Jesus Christ as given in d book of luke 3.
It was after seth was born that men started communicating with God again And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord .
Genesis 4:25-26 KJV cain was cursed.

zeongeon:


For Noah why do you decide to pick the only the word "perfect" and throw away "in his generation"

Can you walk us through this Perfect in his generation (Noah) and perfect (Job).

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man
and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Gen 6:9.

Because there is nothing magical about the phrase generations. It means in his time.

Another usage of the phrase 'in his generations'
Leviticus 25:30 (KJV)
And if it be not redeemed within the space of a full year, then the house that is in the walled city shall be established for ever to him that bought it throughout his generations: it shall not go out in the jubile

Please go back and read my earlier post on the exact Hebrew meaning of perfect here and elsewhere. It has nothing to do with genes but character and morality/integrity

oyeludef:
as much as i dont agree with brahamites, i don't see where d person u quoted said anything in support of William Braham's errors. Asking what was so special about seth shows uv never consciously traced the genealogy of Jesus Christ as given in d book of luke 3.
It was after seth was born that men started communicating with God again And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord .
Genesis 4:25-26 KJV cain was cursed.

Men not Seth began calling God so this does not mark him as special.
The scriptures say men BEGAN not men started AGAIN. Please don't assist Holy Spirit with inspiration


Once again, what is SPECIAL about Seth and his lineage? Were they purer than the rest? If so, how come so many of them except Noah perished with the flood?

Busybody2:



I am here to grow more in the knowledge of Christ Sir, so I pray God keep us all as one and remember the greatest commandment in the Bible as you have been saying which is to love God and love our neighbours as ourselves!


As one body in Christ I always wonder why there is always two sides to most topics in the Bible such as "to tithe or not to tithe/trinity /rapture/once saved always saved doctrine/ wear trouser - not allowed/braiding and fixing hair leads to hell - no it doesn't/etc...I pray God in His infinite mercies will grant us all divine favour so that we will all make eternal life in Jesus' name.
Cc CharlyG1





Thanks for the explanation of the various meaning of the word.


[b]But[/b]prior to God touching on the subject Noah, God was expressing His displeasure and agonising over His heartbreak about the evil character of men in those era and He was contemplating on wiping off everyone off the face of the earth before He remembered Noah was "perfect aka morally upright..."

Pls look into Hebrew Transliteration of Genesis 6:9 and Leviticus 22:21 and check the Hebrew word used for perfect in both bible quotes. Thanks.

ccollins:
whether you have knowledge of everything including the Bible or you gifted with all revelations and miracle power from God but do not have charity.. you are like a noisy drum in sight of God.. please brethren, I beseech you in Christ Name to be tolerant and understand to the unity of body of Christ as far as it doesn't lead to iniquity --- 1 Corinthians 13

Proverbs 2:1-22 ESV


My son, if you receive my words and treasure up my commandments with you, making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding; yes, if you call out for insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God...


See Sir Ccollins, finding the knowledge of God is good, too

vooks:


Because there is nothing magical about the phrase generations. It means in his time.

Another usage of the phrase 'in his generations'
Leviticus 25:30 (KJV)
And if it be not redeemed within the space of a full year, then the house that is in the walled city shall be established for ever to him that bought it throughout his generations: it shall not go out in the jubile

Please go back and read my earlier post on the exact Hebrew meaning of perfect here and elsewhere. It has nothing to do with genes but character and morality/integrity

The Bible saying Noah was a just man and walked with God already covers his character...the perfect in his generations was used in the context of the disturbed human DNA at that time and describing Noah as being from an untainted blood line.

For the term "perfect" Mr oyeludef has already answered the question and probably I may not answer it any better like Mr oyeludef..If Noah was indeed perfect then Christ coming to die for us would have been in vain.

God bless you.

Michaelangelo100:
Pls look into Hebrew Transliteration of Genesis 6:9 and Leviticus 22:21 and check the Hebrew word used for perfect in both bible quotes. Thanks.

My friend,
Actually I was wrong,the word occurs 45 times
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/tamim_8549.htm

It is true the word is used of animal sacrifices, but recall God was not demanding genetic purity, just animals without any visible defects such as blind, limping and so forth. In fact if Noah was perfect just as the animals were supposed to be perfect, then Noah was without any visible physical defect

Thanks and God bless

Ps
It is intellectual dishonesty to run to Leviticus to validate yourself while ignoring ALL other references


Englishman's Concordance
tā·mîm — 45 Occurrences
Genesis 6:9
HEB: אִ֥ישׁ צַדִּ֛יק תָּמִ֥ים הָיָ֖ה בְּדֹֽרֹתָ֑יו
NAS: man, blameless in his time;
KJV: man [and] perfect in his generations,
INT: another was a righteous blameless become his time

Genesis 17:1
HEB: לְפָנַ֖י וֶהְיֵ֥ה תָמִֽים׃
NAS: Walk before Me, and be blameless.
KJV: walk before me, and be thou perfect.
INT: before become and be blameless

Exodus 12:5
HEB: שֶׂ֥ה תָמִ֛ים זָכָ֥ר בֶּן־
NAS: Your lamb shall be an unblemished male
KJV: Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male
INT: your lamb shall be an unblemished male old

Leviticus 1:3
HEB: הַבָּקָ֔ר זָכָ֥ר תָּמִ֖ים יַקְרִיבֶ֑נּוּ אֶל־
NAS: it, a male without defect; he shall offer
KJV: a male without blemish: he shall offer
INT: the herd A male without shall offer about

Leviticus 1:10
HEB: לְעֹלָ֑ה זָכָ֥ר תָּמִ֖ים יַקְרִיבֶֽנּוּ׃
NAS: it a male without defect.
KJV: it a male without blemish.
INT: A burnt A male without shall offer

Leviticus 3:1
HEB: אִם־ נְקֵבָ֔ה תָּמִ֥ים יַקְרִיבֶ֖נּוּ לִפְנֵ֥י
NAS: he shall offer it without defect before
KJV: he shall offer it without blemish before
INT: or female without shall offer before

Leviticus 3:6
HEB: א֣וֹ נְקֵבָ֔ה תָּמִ֖ים יַקְרִיבֶֽנּוּ׃
NAS: or female, without defect.
KJV: he shall offer it without blemish.
INT: or female without shall offer

Leviticus 4:3
HEB: בֶּן־ בָּקָ֥ר תָּמִ֛ים לַיהוָ֖ה לְחַטָּֽאת׃
NAS: a bull without defect as a sin
KJV: bullock without blemish unto the LORD
INT: afflicted bull without to the LORD offering

Leviticus 4:23
HEB: עִזִּ֖ים זָכָ֥ר תָּמִֽים׃
NAS: a goat, a male without defect.
KJV: of the goats, a male without blemish:
INT: of the goats A male without

Leviticus 5:15
HEB: לַֽיהוָ֜ה אַ֧יִל תָּמִ֣ים מִן־ הַצֹּ֗אן
NAS: a ram without defect from the flock,
KJV: a ram without blemish out of the flocks,
INT: to the LORD A ram without against the flock

Leviticus 5:18
HEB: וְ֠הֵבִיא אַ֣יִל תָּמִ֧ים מִן־ הַצֹּ֛אן
NAS: a ram without defect from the flock,
KJV: a ram without blemish out of the flock,
INT: to bring A ram without from the flock

Leviticus 6:6
HEB: לַיהוָ֑ה אַ֣יִל תָּמִ֧ים מִן־ הַצֹּ֛אן
NAS: a ram without defect from the flock,
KJV: a ram without blemish out of the flock,
INT: to the LORD A ram without from the flock

Leviticus 22:19
HEB: לִֽרְצֹנְכֶ֑ם תָּמִ֣ים זָכָ֔ר בַּבָּקָ֕ר
NAS: [it must be] a male without defect from the cattle,
KJV: a male without blemish, of the beeves,
INT: to be accepted without a male the cattle

Leviticus 22:21
HEB: א֣וֹ בַצֹּ֑אן תָּמִ֤ים יִֽהְיֶה֙ לְרָצ֔וֹן
NAS: of the flock, it must be perfect to be accepted;
KJV: or sheep, it shall be perfect to be accepted;
INT: or of the flock must be perfect become to be accepted

Leviticus 23:12
HEB: הָעֹ֑מֶר כֶּ֣בֶשׂ תָּמִ֧ים בֶּן־ שְׁנָת֛וֹ
NAS: old without defect for a burnt offering
KJV: an he lamb without blemish of the first
INT: the sheaf A male without old year

Numbers 6:14
HEB: בֶּן־ שְׁנָת֨וֹ תָמִ֤ים אֶחָד֙ לְעֹלָ֔ה
NAS: old without defect
KJV: year without blemish for a burnt offering,
INT: old A year without one A burnt

Numbers 6:14
HEB: וְאַֽיִל־ אֶחָ֥ד תָּמִ֖ים לִשְׁלָמִֽים׃
NAS: old without defect for a sin offering
KJV: ram without blemish for peace offerings,
INT: ram and one without A peace

Deuteronomy 18:13
HEB: תָּמִ֣ים תִּֽהְיֶ֔ה עִ֖ם
NAS: You shall be blameless before
KJV: Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD
INT: shall be blameless become before

Deuteronomy 32:4
HEB: הַצּוּר֙ תָּמִ֣ים פָּעֳל֔וֹ כִּ֥י
NAS: His work is perfect, For all
KJV: his work [is] perfect: for all his ways
INT: the Rock is perfect his work for

Joshua 10:13
HEB: לָב֖וֹא כְּי֥וֹם תָּמִֽים׃
NAS: to go [down] for about a whole day.
KJV: not to go down about a whole day.
INT: to go day A whole

1 Samuel 14:41
HEB: יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל הָ֣בָה תָמִ֑ים וַיִּלָּכֵ֧ד יוֹנָתָ֛ן
NAS: Give a perfect [lot]. And Jonathan
KJV: Give a perfect [lot]. And Saul
INT: of Israel Give A perfect were taken and Jonathan

2 Samuel 22:24
HEB: וָאֶהְיֶ֥ה תָמִ֖ים ל֑וֹ וָאֶשְׁתַּמְּרָ֖ה
NAS: I was also blameless toward Him, And I kept
KJV: I was also upright before him, and have kept
INT: was also blameless kept my iniquity

2 Samuel 22:26
HEB: עִם־ גִּבּ֥וֹר תָּמִ֖ים תִּתַּמָּֽם׃
NAS: You show Yourself kind, With the blameless You show Yourself blameless;
KJV: thou wilt shew thyself merciful, [and] with the upright man
INT: with man the blameless show

2 Samuel 22:31
HEB: הָאֵ֖ל תָּמִ֣ים דַּרְכּ֑וֹ אִמְרַ֤ת
NAS: His way is blameless; The word
KJV: his way [is] perfect; the word
INT: God is blameless his way the word

2 Samuel 22:33
HEB: חָ֑יִל וַיַּתֵּ֥ר תָּמִ֖ים [דַּרְכֹּו כ]
NAS: And He sets the blameless in His way.
KJV: and he maketh my way perfect.
INT: is my strong sets the blameless along

Job 12:4
HEB: שְׂ֝ח֗וֹק צַדִּ֥יק תָּמִֽים׃
NAS: him; The just [and] blameless [man] is a joke.
KJV: him: the just upright [man is] laughed to scorn.
INT: joke the just blameless

Psalm 15:2
HEB: הוֹלֵ֣ךְ תָּ֭מִים וּפֹעֵ֥ל צֶ֑דֶק
NAS: He who walks with integrity, and works
KJV: He that walketh uprightly, and worketh
INT: walks integrity and works righteousness

Psalm 18:23
HEB: וָאֱהִ֣י תָמִ֣ים עִמּ֑וֹ וָ֝אֶשְׁתַּמֵּ֗ר
NAS: I was also blameless with Him, And I kept
KJV: I was also upright before him, and I kept
INT: was also blameless and I kept

Psalm 18:25
HEB: עִם־ גְּבַ֥ר תָּ֝מִ֗ים תִּתַּמָּֽם׃
NAS: You show Yourself kind; With the blameless You show Yourself blameless;
KJV: thou wilt shew thyself merciful; with an upright man
INT: with man the blameless show

Psalm 18:30
HEB: הָאֵל֮ תָּמִ֪ים דַּ֫רְכּ֥וֹ אִמְרַֽת־
NAS: His way is blameless; The word
KJV: his way [is] perfect: the word
INT: God is blameless his way the word

Psalm 18:32
HEB: חָ֑יִל וַיִּתֵּ֖ן תָּמִ֣ים דַּרְכִּֽי׃
NAS: And makes my way blameless?
KJV: and maketh my way perfect.
INT: strength and makes perfect my way

Psalm 101:2
HEB: אַשְׂכִּ֤ילָה ׀ בְּדֶ֬רֶךְ תָּמִ֗ים מָ֭תַי תָּב֣וֹא
NAS: I will give heed to the blameless way.
KJV: I will behave myself wisely in a perfect way.
INT: will give way to the blameless When come

Psalm 101:6
HEB: הֹ֭לֵךְ בְּדֶ֣רֶךְ תָּמִ֑ים ה֝֗וּא יְשָׁרְתֵֽנִי׃
NAS: with me; He who walks in a blameless way
KJV: with me: he that walketh in a perfect way,
INT: walks way A blameless is the one will minister

Psalm 119:80
HEB: יְהִֽי־ לִבִּ֣י תָמִ֣ים בְּחֻקֶּ֑יךָ לְ֝מַ֗עַן
NAS: May my heart be blameless in Your statutes,
KJV: Let my heart be sound in thy statutes;
INT: become may my heart be blameless your statutes because of

Proverbs 11:5
HEB: צִדְקַ֣ת תָּ֭מִים תְּיַשֵּׁ֣ר דַּרְכּ֑וֹ
NAS: The righteousness of the blameless will smooth
KJV: The righteousness of the perfect shall direct
INT: the righteousness of the blameless will smooth his way

Proverbs 28:18
HEB: הוֹלֵ֣ךְ תָּ֭מִים יִוָּשֵׁ֑עַ וְנֶעְקַ֥שׁ
NAS: He who walks blamelessly will be delivered,
KJV: Whoso walketh uprightly shall be saved:
INT: walks blamelessly will be delivered perverse

Ezekiel 15:5
HEB: הִנֵּה֙ בִּֽהְיוֹת֣וֹ תָמִ֔ים לֹ֥א יֵֽעָשֶׂ֖ה
NAS: Behold, while it is intact, it is not made
KJV: Behold, when it was whole, it was meet
INT: Behold become is intact is not made

Ezekiel 28:15
HEB: תָּמִ֤ים אַתָּה֙ בִּדְרָכֶ֔יךָ
NAS: You were blameless in your ways
KJV: Thou [wast] perfect in thy ways
INT: were blameless in your ways

Ezekiel 43:22
HEB: שְׂעִיר־ עִזִּ֥ים תָּמִ֖ים לְחַטָּ֑את וְחִטְּאוּ֙
NAS: goat without blemish for a sin offering,
KJV: of the goats without blemish for a sin offering;
INT: A male goat without A sin shall cleanse

Ezekiel 43:23
HEB: בֶּן־ בָּקָ֣ר תָּמִ֔ים וְאַ֥יִל מִן־
NAS: a young bull without blemish and a ram
KJV: bullock without blemish, and a ram
INT: A young bull without ram from

Ezekiel 43:23
HEB: מִן־ הַצֹּ֖אן תָּמִֽים׃
NAS: without blemish and a ram
KJV: out of the flock without blemish.
INT: from the flock blemish

Ezekiel 45:18
HEB: בֶּן־ בָּקָ֖ר תָּמִ֑ים וְחִטֵּאתָ֖ אֶת־
NAS: bull without blemish and cleanse
KJV: bullock without blemish, and cleanse
INT: A young bull without and cleanse the sanctuary

Ezekiel 46:4
HEB: תְּמִימִ֖ם וְאַ֥יִל תָּמִֽים׃
NAS: without blemish and a ram
KJV: and a ram without blemish.
INT: without ram blemish

Ezekiel 46:13
HEB: בֶּן־ שְׁנָת֜וֹ תָּמִ֗ים תַּעֲשֶׂ֥ה עוֹלָ֛ה
NAS: old without blemish for a burnt offering
KJV: year without blemish: thou shalt prepare
INT: old A year without shall provide A burnt

Amos 5:10
HEB: מוֹכִ֑יחַ וְדֹבֵ֥ר תָּמִ֖ים יְתָעֵֽבוּ׃
NAS: him who speaks [with] integrity.
KJV: him that speaketh uprightly.
INT: reproves speaks integrity abhor

zeongeon:
The Bible saying Noah was a just man and walked with God already covers his character...the perfect in his generations was used in the context of the disturbed human DNA at that time and describing Noah as being from an untainted blood line.

For the term "perfect" Mr oyeludef has already answered the question and probably I may not answer it any better like Mr oyeludef..If Noah was indeed perfect then Christ coming to die for us would have been in vain.

God bless you.

But Job was equally called PERFECT and UPRIGHT

Job 1:1 (KJV)
There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
What do you suppose these words covered since your presumption is one is for integrity?

Could it be that Noah walked upright while the rest had a stoop?

My Life today, is sustained by the Word of God, that I believe. But how could i have believed it, if I didn't know it?

I remember, along time ago, a marine pastor, whom I never insulted, approached me, because he saw me with Crutches and thought I was vulnerable.
He started telling me how he can just heal me and give me a ring which i can use to command whatever I needed. especially trapping men to get money from them. that was his main focus intact.
lol. The man went on and on abt what he can do. everything he said pointed towards powers from the marine, to buttress his point, he quoted, where Jesus asked his Apostle to go catch a fish and get money out of the fish's mouth to pay their taxes.
The man actually opened his mouth and said, Jesus Christ, The Sun of the Living God was subject to the Marine powers. At this point, I exploded. When I put some scriptures before him, he fled.
Tell me, If I didn't know any better, would that man not ve trapped me, by making me believe that Jesus' power came from the marine world? So many in spiritual churches believe so.

vooks:

Men not Seth began calling God so this does not mark him as special.
The scriptures say men BEGAN not men started AGAIN. Please don't assist Holy Spirit with inspiration


Once again, what is SPECIAL about Seth and his lineage? Were they purer than the rest? If so, how come so many of them except Noah perished with the flood?

Noah was a seed of seth. Y don't u tell me about the offsprings of cain?
Israel was special, but only caleb nd Joshua made it into d promised land from they dat started d journey together. D soul dat sinneth shall die. Judas was picked by Jesus does dat mean Jesus wasn't special because he chose a thief as a disciple?

oyeludef:
Noah was a seed of seth. Y don't u tell me about the offsprings of cain?
Israel was special, but only caleb nd Joshua made it into d promised land from they dat started d journey together. D soul dat sinneth shall die. Judas was picked by Jesus does dat mean Jesus wasn't special because he chose a thief as a disciple?

I know but has it occurred to you that only Noah survived of the Seth lineage? If they were so pure why were they destroyed together with Cain's lineage?

And in any case we are not told whether his wife was also from the same line nor that of his sons' wives

Busybody2:



Proverbs 2:1-22 ESV


My son, if you receive my words and treasure up my commandments with you, making your ear attentive to wisdom and inclining your heart to understanding; yes, if you call out for insight and raise your voice for understanding, if you seek it like silver and search for it as for hidden treasures, then you will understand the fear of the Lord and find the knowledge of God...


See Sir Ccollins, finding the knowledge of God is good, too

I understand ma, I just want to calm vexed nerves in thread about what's most important in all the debate

vooks:


I know but has it occurred to you that only Noah survived of the Seth lineage? If they were so pure why were they destroyed together with Cain's lineage?

And in any case we are not told whether his wife was also from the same line nor that of his sons' wives

Alright. If i may ask you, was jacob more special than esau?

analice107:
My Life today, is sustained by the Word of God, that I believe. But how could i have believed it, if I didn't know it?

I remember, along time ago, a marine pastor, whom I never insulted, approached me, because he saw me with Crutches and thought I was vulnerable.
He started telling me how he can just heal me and give me a ring which i can use to command whatever I needed. especially trapping men to get money from them. that was his main focus intact.
lol. The man went on and on abt what he can do. everything he said pointed towards powers from the marine, to buttress his point, he quoted, where Jesus asked his Apostle to go catch a fish and get money out of the fish's mouth to pay their taxes.
The man actually opened his mouth and said, Jesus Christ, The Sun of the Living God was subject to the Marine powers. At this point, I exploded. When I put some scriptures before him, he fled.
Tell me, If I didn't know any better, would that man not ve trapped me, by making me believe that Jesus' power came from the marine world? So many in spiritual churches believe so.

Amen and amen!
The problem with these tales is you can't tell facts,imagination and embellishment apart.
This is why the fantastic tales of heaven and hell NEVER move me a single bit.
Am I the only one who is disturbed by the glaring inconsistencies between the description of heaven and hell from these 'visionaries'?


Here is one boy who lied about dying and going to heaven. He later recanted
http://nypost.com/2015/01/16/teen-admits-he-lied-about-dying-going-to-heaven/

Am not saying that the dreams and visions we are sharing here are false, in fact I have shared my own and how it came to pass to the dot within hours.

What am saying is, it is all about trial and error with these things, there is a likelihood of being misled so to be safe stick to scriptures.

oyeludef:
Alright. If i may ask you, was jacob more special than esau?

Yes he was

Malachi 1:1 (KJV)
The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi.
2 I have loved you, saith the Lord.
Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us?
Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord:
yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau,

Now sir, give me scriptural proof that Seth was special above Cain or any other of Adam's sons and daughters.

My little understanding is that genealogies will only focus on the line pointing up to Christ. The rest are ignored

vooks:

Yes he was

Malachi 1:1 (KJV)
The burden of the word of the Lord to Israel by Malachi.
2 I have loved you, saith the Lord.
Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us?
Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the Lord:
yet I loved Jacob,
3 And I hated Esau,

good. Was abel more special than cain?

oyeludef:
good. Was abel more special than cain?

Not that I have ever read of. If you are of contrary opinion please share with us.

Thank you in advance

vooks:


Not that I have ever read of. If you are of contrary opinion please share with us.

Thank you in advance

but u speak as if you know everything in d Bible. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
1 John 3:12 KJV

Michaelangelo100:
Pls look into Hebrew Transliteration of Genesis 6:9 and Leviticus 22:21 and check the Hebrew word used for perfect in both bible quotes. Thanks.

I have read it again Sir, even the whole a Genesis Chapter 6. Again God was about to wipe away all flesh and then chapter 6:8 states that BUT Noah found grace BECAUSE he was an upright man who walked with God!


Leviticus 22:21 is a totally different verse warning people of Israel not to outsmart God by using defiled, diseased, unhealthy animals in sacred offering to Him, so this not related to Noah's story at all!

oyeludef:
but u speak as if you know everything in d Bible.

I don't know everything or even a tithe of everything sir

Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
1 John 3:12 KJV

How does this make Abel 'more special'?
There are some brothers here struggling with lust and masturbation. Supposing you are not, does that make you special?

Wow... All these arguments!

I thought we had stopped the arguments. I wonder where all these arguments will lead us.

Nobody wins an argument. No one knows all. Why don't we skip all these arguments and move on to the main thing that brought us together.



So instead of wasting time arguing now, i'll rather be in a relaxing mode, maybe watch sponge-bob cartoon, and wait till God drops a message in my heart to share or till the arguments are over.


So for those people that are still arguing, keep it up.

vooks:

I don't know everything or even a tithe of everything sir


How does this make Abel 'more special'?
There are some brothers here struggling with lust and masturbation. Supposing you are not, does that make you special?

with ur logic, Abraham wasn't special, David wasn't special. I don't think arguing with you will get anywhere cos u are a great scholar. But remember the letter killeth but d Spirit gives life. I rest my case

can everyone viewing this post take a moment out to view the first page of this thread...
please?

can two walk together unless they agree? of all the arguments no one has accepted defeat. everyone's opinion is right.

can two walk together unless they agree? of all the arguments no one has accepted defeat. everyone's opinion is right. smh

if two of you have different interpretation to the same scriptural reference, then either one or both of you happens to be wrong.
....

have you guys noticed how the no of monikers and guests viewing this thread has reduced?

ccollins:
I understand ma, I just want to calm vexed nerves in thread about what's most important in all the debate

I understand too Sir and was also trying to lighten your heightened mood. God desires for us all to be saved and to come to the knowledge of truth, so as long as there is no fight, there is nothing wrong in fellowshipping with our fellow brethrens in Christ and learning from them and rubbing minds with them.


2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

sonofthunder:
if two of you have different interpretation to the same scriptural reference, then either one or both of you happens to be wrong.
....

THIS!!! And this is the more reason it shouldn't be swept under the carpet. There is nothing wrong in sharing knowledge.


We serve one God yet like I raised earlier some of us Christians tithe whilst others don't believe in it, some Christian sects condemn women who wears trousers and earrings and braid their hair whilst some defend them that it's whats inside that counts, some believe in the trinity others don't, some believe in the once saved forever saved doctrine, a poster called donnie even came on earlier claiming anyone sick/suffering does not know God or something like that whereas the Bible states that longsuffering is one of the fruit of the Holy Spirit, and that we are to rejoice in tribulation, etcetera...

Fact of the matter is as long as issues like this continues to be swept under the carpet, it will always crop up in unusual places, so I see nothing wrong whereby this gathering of God's children to proclaim about the awesome wonder-working power of God cannot also be used as a platform to help each other in our quest to know God more, AFTERALL IT IS ONLY THIS SAME WORD OF GOD THAT IS THE ONLY WEAPON AND AUTHORITY WE HAVE TO DEFEAT SATAN AND HIS SLAVES/DEMONS!

Busybody2:



I have read it again Sir, even the whole a Genesis Chapter 6. Again God was about to wipe away all flesh and then chapter 6:8 states that BUT Noah found grace BECAUSE he was an upright man who walked with God!


Leviticus 22:21 is a totally different verse warning people of Israel not to outsmart God by using defiled, diseased, unhealthy animals in sacred offering to Him, so this not related to Noah's story at all!

Noah was chosen to carry on and re-
start humanity after the flood
because he was a believer in God .
Additionally he was “perfect in his
generations” which meant that his
genetic bloodline and ancestry was
100 % human . Noah had not been a
part of the Nephilim hybridization that
was plaguing humanity. The Hebrew
word for “ perfect ” in that verse is
tamiym , which means “ complete,
whole ” with reference to health and
physical condition . This is the same
word used to describe the condition
of animal sacrifices to the Lord in Leviticus 22:21.