NnaNna4:
why are they concerned about me using it AGAIN because I intend to use it again.

If you are warned about a specific item then it is wisdom to refrain from it. But don't stop at that, go ahead and pray for God to show you WHY you may not use it, for you have relations using it and you may need to warn them as well.

But dreams can be self fulfilling prophecies; if you have heard stories of that creme or others made in hell or from marine world, and you had these thoughts prior to using it, and further guilt haunted you after using it, then you shouldn't be surprised you are dreaming with the creme

vooks:
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Just about everyone here has their own opinion of how and what to post. You are no exception

You know zilch about Islam if you think they don't argue. Start with Shia-Sunni rift

JUST IMAGINE. EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.... BRO VOOKS
YOU JUST STARTED THE FOUNDATION FOR ANOTHER ARGUMENT . NOW IF I WAS SOMEONE THAT LIKES ARGUMENT I WILL NOW SAY...

no the muslims don't argue...
then you will continue with, yes they argue
then i'll reply (so others will know i sabi AND I WONT LOOK IGNORANT)... no they don't
then you will reply (to prove you're right) yes they do....check so and so thread. check so and so book. check this dictionary...

FOR GOD SAKE VOOKS LET IT GO. I DON'T CARE IF THEY ARGUE OR NOT SELF. JUST LETS MOVE ON.
YOU'VE WON, I LOST. PLEASE LET'S MOVE ON.

thou spirit of argument in this thread die again in Jesus name. amen

nnamdiosu:
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JUST IMAGINE. EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.... BRO VOOKS
YOU JUST STARTED THE FOUNDATION FOR ANOTHER ARGUMENT . NOW IF I WAS SOMEONE THAT LIKES ARGUMENT I WILL NOW SAY...

no the muslims don't argue...
then you will continue with, yes they argue
then i'll reply (so others will know i sabi AND I WONT LOOK IGNORANT)... no they don't
then you will reply (to prove you're right) yes they do....check so and so thread. check so and so book. check this dictionary...

FOR GOD SAKE VOOKS LET IT GO. I DON'T CARE IF THEY ARGUE OR NOT SELF. JUST LETS MOVE ON.
YOU'VE WON, I LOST. PLEASE LET'S MOVE ON.

thou spirit of argument in this thread die again in Jesus name. amen

That was a very minor point and I had no point of reverting to it. It is commonly assumed that Islam is one homogeneous religion whole Christianity is full of divisions. This is the furthest from the truth.

If you determine that everything I say here is an argument, you will find me arguing even when am agreeing with you!

Acts 2:17-18

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, said God, I will pour out of my Spirit on all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy.

Acts 2:21
And it shall come to pass, that whoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

NnaNna4:
why are they concerned about me using it AGAIN because I intend to use it again.

How about you....don't?

NnaNna4:
why are they concerned about me using it AGAIN because I intend to use it again.

From your previous posts, you already know how God deals with you. It is apparent He has passed the message across to you.

BUT, since
You intend to use it AGAIN.

He says... NO.
Follow the witness of the Spirit in You.

NnaNna4:
why are they concerned about me using it AGAIN because I intend to use it again.

Youv been warned so what's the point, y do u want to test the deep waters.
As per spiritual laziness it takes the grace of God for one to bounce back and b spiritually strong. I"ll advice u to take on fasting n scriptures esp ecc n proverbs.

NnaNna4:
I quickly came out of the dream and began to pray when without warning I had gotten into another dream in which I saw two men standings closely, they are not discussing but were gazing into the sky,away from me and having arm folded to the chest as if they have been waiting for me to appear in the dream. Something with me is that I used to be aware that I am in a dream/trance so I will try hard to come out of the dream before unusual powers harm me. But on this occasion as I spotted this men (elderly but not old men),I had fear I wanted to get out the dream, but before I could do that they turned to me and said DONT EVER USE HER HAIR CREAM AGAIN.

haba whose hair cream did u use....also i believe they might be angels....

NnaNna4:
This men were standing at the rear balcony of our house in the village and looking provoked and tied I was wondering if I had anything to do with hair cream. Then I remembered that on Sunday morning (two days ago)after taking my bath in preparation for Church I couldn't lay hand on my hair cream, I can't tell where I must have misplaced the cream so while I was still pondering how to cope with that my elder brother's wife offered me her hair cream to use. I don't know why the two men are warning me not to use my elder brother's wife hair cream. They actually said DO NOT USE THAT HAIR CREAM AGAIN

oh i understand now ....see that hair cream has the potential to destroy ur destiny or initate you into something. for angels to appear in ur dream and warn you abt 'just a cream' means its not an ordinary cream. shebi u want to use it again?
use jor, enjoy.
you will still come bk and gist us the repercussion.

Good morning Brother Charles, and my other family members.

Its okay guys, I think the point has been made clear. keep the word of God outside this thread, let's just share our experiences, which may or not come from God. And since we won't bother with the word of God, there won't be any way of knowing.

some folk may see and consider the exchange here as argument, but I leant something new from it. I never knew the real purpose of the flood. I only knew that men became very wicked and corrupt, and that Nephilims mated with the daughters of men, I didn't know who Nephilims were really till this thread.
I didn't know that Nephilims were Satan's ploy to Con- terminate the human gene thereby stopping the coming of Christ. I didn't even know that there's a diff. between fallen Angels and demons (which I believe they are the same).
its in this thread am hearing about disturbed genes and pure genes. And that, the disturbed genes was smuggled into the Ark and crossed to the postflood era, which I also don't believe.
I have learnt a lot in this discussions. The problem with some folk is that, they don't know the diff between, argument and discussion. I have to say, we are discussing here.

Pls, pls don't shut out the word of God, because that will mean shutting out the spirit of God.

Guys who wants experience but not accompanied with the word, pls know that, those experiences are given by the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit understands no other language other than the word of God.

analice107:
Good morning Brother Charles, and my other family members.

Its okay guys, I think the point has been made clear. keep the word of God outside this thread, let's just share our experiences, which may or not come from God. And since we won't bother with the word of God, there won't be any way of knowing.

some folk may see and consider the exchange here as argument, but I leant something new from it. I never knew the real purpose of the flood. I only knew that men became very wicked and corrupt, and that Nephilims mated with the daughters of men, I didn't know who Nephilims were really till this thread.
I didn't know that Nephilims were Satan's ploy to Con- terminate the human gene thereby stopping the coming of Christ. I didn't even know that there's a diff. between fallen Angels and demons (which I believe they are the same).
its in this thread am hearing about disturbed genes and pure genes. And that, the disturbed genes was smuggled into the Ark and crossed to the postflood era, which I also don't believe.
I have learnt a lot in this discussions. The problem with some folk is that, they don'kt know the diff between, argument and discussion. I have to say, we are discussing here.

Pls, pls don't shut out the word of God, because that will mean shutting out the spirit of God.

Guys who wants experience but not accompanied with the word, pls know that, those experiences are given by the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit understands no other language other than the word of God.

SWEET HEART....YOUR MISSING THE POINT. NOW LET ME TRY AND EXPLAIN...
we ARE NOT saying don't put the word of God. No No No. use the word of God here as you like. Use to back up your experiences or revelation.
use it in excess. use it till we vomit. IT'S ALLOWED. THE WORD OF GOD IS OUR BASIS
BUT what most of us are saying is......
WHEN ONE RAISE A POINT AND SOMEONE ELSE DOESN' T AGREE WITH YOU, DON'T TRY AND CONTINUE HITTING THE ISSUE. YOU CAN DROP YOUR POINT/BACKING FROM THE WORD OF GOD AND MATURELY LET IT GO. no need arguing, re arguing, on the SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. BESIDES IF ONE FEELS LEAD BY THE SPIRIT TO BUTTRESS ON IT, PICK OUT YOUR ARGUING/CHALLENGING PARTNER(S) TO A DIFFERENT THREAD THAT YOU CREATE ON JUST THAT TOPIC, THEN ARGUE TILL JESUS COMES WITH THAT PERSON (NO PROBLEM). then collect your medal for arguing but.....

1 Corinthians 3:3
You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere humans?

International Standard Version 1 Corinthians 3:3
Brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus the Messiah, I urge all of you to be in agreement and not to have divisions among you, so that you may be perfectly united in your understanding and opinions.


... we know that 'all of us possess knowl­edge.' Knowledge' puffs up, but love builds up. If any one imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know. But if one loves God, one is known by him" (1 Cor. 8:1, R.S.V.).*

God bless us as we humble ourselves, let it slide, appear ignorant, forget about being right or wrong and LET LOVE LEAD. (AND LET CHARLES THREAD CONTINUE WITH THE CREATED PURPOSE) .AMEN

There is a serious aversion to scriptures here,,but it is well

He replied, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.

analice107:
Good morning Brother Charles, and my other family members.

Its okay guys, I think the point has been made clear. keep the word of God outside this thread, let's just share our experiences, which may or not come from God. And since we won't bother with the word of God, there won't be any way of knowing.

some folk may see and consider the exchange here as argument, but I leant something new from it. I never knew the real purpose of the flood. I only knew that men became very wicked and corrupt, and that Nephilims mated with the daughters of men, I didn't know who Nephilims were really till this thread.
I didn't know that Nephilims were Satan's ploy to Con- terminate the human gene thereby stopping the coming of Christ. I didn't even know that there's a diff. between fallen Angels and demons (which I believe they are the same).
its in this thread am hearing about disturbed genes and pure genes. And that, the disturbed genes was smuggled into the Ark and crossed to the postflood era, which I also don't believe.
I have learnt a lot in this discussions. The problem with some folk is that, they don't know the diff between, argument and discussion. I have to say, we are discussing here.

Pls, pls don't shut out the word of God, because that will mean shutting out the spirit of God.

Guys who wants experience but not accompanied with the word, pls know that, those experiences are given by the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit understands no other language other than the word of God.

Dear Analice,

Come on Dear.. You know that's not what I mean. The word of God is the basis for everything in our lives. Nnamdiosu has really made this clear.


In as much as we share the word of God, we won't all agree on some things. As a result, this would bring up strife and contention among us if we debate for long over certain scriptures. It would give Satan a foothold to distract us from what really brought us together here.


I'm not saying don't share the word of God. What I'm saying is that arguing with different interpretations in the word of God will divide us.

We shouldn't have long debates on such things but we should edify our selves with our testimonies and experiences which would help us build our faith (seasoned with the word of God).


Sharing the word of God is allowed 110%, but it shouldn't stir up long debates and insults among us. I have shared the word of God here just like you have too, but it has to be done in a Godly manner not in a manner that tries to prove superior intelligence or too much biblical wisdom.

If you check from the beginning of the page, the word of God has always been quoted.



I hope you can understand my motives Analice. Let's not break the chord of LOVE among us.



God bless you in Jesus Name.. amen.

Busybody2:




Are the Bible verses being quoted to buttress their points - which rookie Christians like us are learning from - not in your own Bible? Like I said earlier I for one am not interested in the giant monsters side of the debate but it would be actually rude and selfish and self-centred of me to come out and tell people to shut up or tell them to only post the ones that would benefit me only, which is what some of you have been doing!!! What happened to the love? Evangelism should and can be conducted anywhere surely including on this thread as long as salvation is still free for all!!!


Not from a Christian background and stumbled into Christianity barely three years ago, so I recently discovered God has deposited a sizeable amount of these gifts being discussed on this thread in me, is it dreams/vision/revelation/is it the way I find it bemusing that people are always begging me not to talk and they tell me it is because God has done something to my mouth so everything I say comes to pass/I shared another dimension earlier on this same thread...In short I am a classic perfect example of that Bible verse that says "it's not by power nor by might but by the Spirit...".Infact if I say I know 15% of the Bible I would be lying, so why can't you people be tolerant enough to look the other way and free rookies like me to keep learning at the snail-speed we are learning. You keep insisting its argument and I keep telling you it's helping people like me develop in my walk with God, why are you people being so pedantic? Do you guys hold the monopoly on the most effective way of learning the word of God? Hian!!!


Late last year or so I got a call from home that osun is fed up of me, the following day I got another call from someone else that osun is angry with me, and sacrifices needs to be done for me...I blurted out whaaaattt/who is osun/where do I know he/she/it from/how can someone I don't know and have never seen be angry with me/arrant nonsense/I am not interested/I am a child of the Most High God/who are all these shameless things are they blind to the fact that even their master satan in under my feet in the name of Jesus/etc...in the end the osun thing fled just as it is written in the Bible that if we resist the devil it will flee..."Again it was the word of God that has been imparted to me in my dream such as "I have not given you a spirit of fear but of love, sound mind...I have not redeemed you with incorruptible things but with the precious blood of Jesus Christ, etc that helped..."


My Heavenly Father has done so much for me, all that I am is because of Him, and since my life of late has revolved around topics being discussed on this thread, nothing should be a barrier and stop people like me from participating in this thread, contributing as and when necessary and asking questions as and when necessary, etc, in order to perfect my walk with God.


What happened to live and let live? Is Joshua 1:8 not in the Bible: This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. This thread is on a forum and not one platform whereby people have to queue and take turns to talk, so if anyone ain't interested in what someone is saying they are free to skip the post/change the channel. Haranguing people and stiffling them from posting and heavily close-guarding and close marking people from posting the word of God is synonymous to bullying incase y'all don't know!

sorry for bullying you aunty rookie.
smh.

vooks:

The debate is part of the thread
I notice some subtle curses on my person here. If you really think am Satan, go ahead and cast the Devils out.

Bros please let it slide.

oyeludef:
Bros please let it slide.

Ok, but if I wake up to more curses, I will be greatly tempted to confront them head on. Am allergic to superstition sir

vooks:


Ok, but if I wake up to more curses, I will be greatly tempted to confront them head on. Am allergic to superstition sir

Alright sir

NnaNna4:
I quickly came out of the dream and began to pray when without warning I had gotten into another dream in which I saw two men standings closely, they are not discussing but were gazing into the sky,away from me and having arm folded to the chest as if they have been waiting for me to appear in the dream. Something with me is that I used to be aware that I am in a dream/trance so I will try hard to come out of the dream before unusual powers harm me. But on this occasion as I spotted this men (elderly but not old men),I had fear I wanted to get out the dream, but before I could do that they turned to me and said DONT EVER USE HER HAIR CREAM AGAIN.

those men you saw in ur dream are angels. While u r Still praying to know d reason dey asked u to stop using the hair cream, itz advisable u stop using it

I like that we are talking about perfection and since this is a thread about spirits, this is very much in line. Its about the spirits of men. Is there a good spirit before God, and a spirit, referred in scripture as a vessel of his glory, or vessel built for his wrath?

Romans 9:22 |
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:


Romans 9:23 |
And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,


What does it mean to say that men have been predestined?

And there is this:

When Christ sent his disciples, He instructed them to look out for a very particular kind of people, the SONS OF PEACE.


Luke 10:6
And if the son of peace be there, your peace shall rest upon it: if not, it shall turn to you again.

But it's not all gloom. There is a place in the Kingdom for other vessels/spirits of men.

Take for example Christ's choice of Judaism Escariot. He was one of the 12 disciples. Sent so preach and given power to work miracles together with the others. If you read earlier versions of the bible, Christ referred severally to Him as a devil. One He loved a lot.

This is very intentional. The secret is revealed in Daniel 7. Look carefully not all powers are bound the first time round.

Dan 7:12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.

There is a second chance. You see, some (not all) of these are participants in an age that has known Christ. And for the same reason, the gospel is to be preached to all men, and by all men. There is hope for all;

@ 4C2215131

Kindly accept my sincere apologies.. So sorry for any offense anyone on the thread might have caused you. Busybody may have offended you but I believe she also learnt something from you like she said. That's a good one.

So pls let it go, alright.

God bless you.

@ Analice, busybody... Don't misunderstand people like me, Bro Charles, nnamdiosu and oyeludef. We are not asking us not to talk about the Word. Of course the Word is the primary basis of our lives, discussion and everything we ought to do or discuss.

My point is that we shouldn't let our discussions degenerate to arguments that may not really profit or edify us. I am with vooks on the Nephilim issue but have decided to let go. I can continue to explain and bring out points to buttress and substantiate my claims while the other parties will also do the same... The debate will just continue and we might be leaving other important issues that could bless us. I have decided to let go. I still believe my opinion about the Nephilim issue is right but don't have to make everyone believe the same. Moreover, that isn't the primary criteria for living the Kingdom life.

Some of our predecessors never knew Greek and Hebrew like some of us today but we can't deny the truth that they carried God's power and dealt with the kingdom of darkness. Please get me right. I love the Word so much and want to learn. We shouldn't glory in experiences but in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ hence the need for the study of the Bible. I urge us to take our personal Bible study very very serious but beware of arguments when we meet people with contrasting views on our interpretations.

I may be right or wrong on my stance on the Nephilim issue but I believe the Lord in his own way will guide me IF that is so crucial in fulfilling destiny.

Love you all.

bronzegoddess:


Why didn't u understand what he said? Why did he appear if he was going to speak a language u do not understand? I think u probably were day-dreaming.


Sooooo...are you all telling me we have no female angels? Woooow. When next a guy tells me "u are an angel", I'll just laugh and say "nice one bruv, there aint no female angels"

Angels have no male or female

NnaNna4:


Angels have no male or female

Angels are always depicted as MEN. But in Zechariah's vision, we get winged female beings although from the verse we would be hard pressed to call them angels. They may as well have been symbols of something else like Revelation 12 Woman with child

Zechariah 5:9-11 (KJV)
Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. 10 Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? 11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

sonofthunder:

sorry for bullying you aunty rookie.
smh.

Proverbs 26:21 - As charcoal to hot embers and wood to fire, so is a quarrelsome man for kindling strife.


Thanks for your fake apology. We can see the love and character of God in you Mr Senior Christian I will leave you with Jesus' peace and this prayer Isaiah 50:4 May the Lord God give you the tongue of those who are taught, that you may know how to sustain with a word those who are weary

@destinedtee
Thanks for your kind words imbued with patience, but for the umpteenth time we are here to learn, not argue and have been learning a lot from these varied teaching...


Perhaps it's because you guys have gone deeper in your walk with Christ that is making these nuggets of information we are lapping up boring and tedious to you. But please bear with us as you remember iron sharpeneth iron. Moreover 1 Peter 4:10 states that as each has received a gift, use it to serve one another, as good stewards of God's varied grace. May your labour of love and sacrifice will not be in vain Sir.

nnamdiosu:
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JUST IMAGINE. EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.... BRO VOOKS
YOU JUST STARTED THE FOUNDATION FOR ANOTHER ARGUMENT . NOW IF I WAS SOMEONE THAT LIKES ARGUMENT I WILL NOW SAY...

no the muslims don't argue...
then you will continue with, yes they argue
then i'll reply (so others will know i sabi AND I WONT LOOK IGNORANT)... no they don't
then you will reply (to prove you're right) yes they do....check so and so thread. check so and so book. check this dictionary...

FOR GOD SAKE VOOKS LET IT GO. I DON'T CARE IF THEY ARGUE OR NOT SELF. JUST LETS MOVE ON.
YOU'VE WON, I LOST. PLEASE LET'S MOVE ON.

thou spirit of argument in this thread die again in Jesus name. amen

AMEN!

I will like us to looking into this topic of ancestral altars, covenants and bondage..As many people there problem is as a result of ancestral sins and what there ancestors where engaged in and as a result present generation are struggling and are going through a hard time.

Ezk 18:2 The parents ate the sour grapes, But the children got the sour taste.

Exodus 34:7 - Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear [the guilty]; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth [generation].

This is a story that happened in kindred in my village and the news spread far. This is the story as it was told to me.

There was this family that the girls never got married in that family you will see women of 50, 45 all not married and funny enough they where beautiful when young and where success ful in there career, while the men got married and divorced, some will get rich and all of a sudden become poor while some never did well..The family was known for having women who never got married..

At some point some one in the family mobilized some prayer groups who where into deliverance and spiritual warfare they stormed the village and prayers started and then it was revealed to the prayer group that there ancestral altar had been abandoned and that no one worships and gives the spirits what the ancestors usually gave them and the spirits then started frustrating the life's of that kindred..it was further revealed that the ancestral altar was in a tree that was located at the center of where the elderly men and men of that family gathered to have meeting.

The prayer group decided to cut the tree down and then an elderly man came up telling them not to cut the tree that the family had there life line connected to that tree and if they cut it people will begin to die mysteriously. The prayer group decided to listen to the old man they didnt cut the tree but fired more intensive prayer and left.

Three days after the prayers the massive tree withered and died, as in died and in no time the ladies started to marry and progress followed the men..The testimony shook the village and people began organizing there own family liberation prayers.

NnaNna4:

Angels have no male or female

so this thread is full of lies

bronzegoddess:
so this thread is full of lies

The word has been adopted to mean several things by different cultures but I'd love to imagine that it is more than obvious that the usage on this thread is restricted to the class of beings thus called by the scriptures

whenever I experience how wicked pretentious and ungodly this world, I talk to God ,pray and remember this verses ;
31 To the Jews who had believed him,
Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching,
you are really my disciples. 32 Then
you will know the truth, and the truth
will set you free." 33 They answered
him, "We are Abraham's descendants
and have never been slaves of anyone.
How can you say that we shall be set
free?" 34 Jesus replied, "I tell you the
truth, everyone who sins is a slave to
sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent
place in the family, but a son belongs to
it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you
free, you will be free indeed.

42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me? 47 He who belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."