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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by JayJustus(m): 12:23pm On Dec 21, 2015
YerYer:
Transfer the funds into someone's account in naija and have them send it to you via western Union or money gram. You might also consider buying paypal funds, not sure if paypal is used in South Africa.

Good luck.

exactly...use western union and moneygram...and the exchange rate they use is real time live exchange rate not some bogus mallam street rate...I've been using western union and moneygram and no problem for the past one year...let them keep dulling with atm bullshyte...but note that the card has only been suspended from atm withdrawals but pos and online transactions are still available...

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by Nobody: 12:27pm On Dec 21, 2015
santos247:
The new CBN policy is no more news.
Read details here: https://www.nairaland.com/2434811/cbn-restricts-use-naira-denominated#35603203.

However, as a Nigerian in diaspora, i want guys to advise what avenues can i explore to access my funds. I am currently schooling in South Africa and my monthly salary is my major means of survival. My naira Master card has been my regular shopping partner.
Smart guys in the house, what options do i have??
Guy visit www.vccexperts.com to get really cheap virtual credit cards. They accept transfer through normal Nigerian account. Hurry up b4 it's too late.

Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by JayJustus(m): 12:27pm On Dec 21, 2015
Matinho:

You cannot send Western Union from Nigeria.You can only receive.

lol...which cave have you been living since?? my dad has been using WU and moneygram to send to me for the past year...it actually started september 2015 with only moneygram but WU has joined now...

https://firstbanknigeria.com/products/services/money-transfers/western-union-money-transfer/
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by onome2013: 12:30pm On Dec 21, 2015
CAN governor to answer this question .
I think he is confuse with his duties
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by nuru(m): 12:32pm On Dec 21, 2015
For paying school fees, just obtain the official invoice from the school, fill from A at the bank and support it with documents such as the invoice, the admission letter and international passport. Issue an instruction to the bank to debit your Naira account and it will be done.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by chinedu1nig(m): 12:33pm On Dec 21, 2015
repogirl:
How will they pay for the machines when dollars are scarce?

Importers are owing their suppliers abroad

Banks are owing MasterCard and Co. Dollars

That is the exact reason CBN came up with this policy, because there is no dollar to offset debts.
Then you say people should import machines and pay with what? Naira? undecided

since when did you start importing machine huh? if you need clarification on the said subject please, humbly ask before spewing trash and making assertions based on prejudice. use the internet wisely my dear. read read and read oooo. readddddd. Nigerians read
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by JayJustus(m): 12:33pm On Dec 21, 2015
PROVACATEUR:
the topic is how to pay for your tuition in overseas and not to buy made in Nigeria.




Saii baba dulapo

you can pay tuition fees with FORM A...ask your bank...my dad has done it and still did it last month

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by Excellent7(m): 12:34pm On Dec 21, 2015
bayulll01:


You stupidity and ignorance no get part 2,firstly ask yourself.

Can you bring america master card or visa and use it here in nigeria.

Can you open a bank and deposit naira in america or other european nations.

Can you use america bank master card and shop here in nigeria,if you can answer those questions first I will help you reset your brain.

N.B there are many loop holes that this current administrator is trying to block since its now paramount that both yam and goat cannot live together,instead let's keep the yam from the goat or both kept apart.

Its a temporary policy,most banks are paying too much for your silly amount you withdraw in another country or your idiocy 5dollar hosting you are paying

Sir, it is very obvious that you are either too dense to understand these matters, simply not well exposed at least to international "ish", simply deluded or uninformed.
Let me answer your questions, perhaps you can now be educated a little on these matters.

1. Can you bring america master card or visa and use it here in nigeria.

Yes Sir, you can bring your American, European etc. Mastercard, Visacard etc to Nigeria and use it here. In fact it should be possible for a tourist to spend weeks in other countries without touching the local currency if all service providers are card enabled. When you are doing that your local currency transactions are converted to dollars and the dollar equivalent of your local currency expenditure removed from your Dollar denominated Mastercard. Doing this is equivalent to "importing " Dollars to Nigeria or the country you are making the transactions in. This is the reason informed folks are against the "demarketing" of Nigeria that can make foreigners not come here to spend there hard currency here.

2. Can you open a bank and deposit Naira in america or other european nations ?
No Sir, In principle no, because our Naira is not an "international" currency.
For Dollar and Euro , you can have accounts in such denominations in many countries. For the Chinese Yuan I am not sure.
This is what Naira can become one day, if we are able to get Nigeria and her economy to grow up to its full potentials.
I am aware that it I can have a Dollar denominated account in European countries if I do not want to convert to Euro.
For Dollar and Euro

3. Can you use america bank master card and shop here in Nigeria, if you can answer those questions first I will help you reset your brain.
Sir this question has been answered in the answers to question 1 above.

Sir, now that answers have been provided to your questions, you might wish to proceed and "educate" us with your now exposed and magnificent ignorance.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by ibietela2(m): 12:35pm On Dec 21, 2015
YerYer:
Transfer the funds into someone's account in naija and have them send it to you via western Union or money gram. You might also consider buying paypal funds, not sure if paypal is used in South Africa.

Good luck.

PayPal is available in SA
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by signature2012(m): 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2015
kings09:
D CBN gov was appointed by Jonathan. If Buhari shld remove him, u wld still cry 2 d heavens.

Was this policy made in jonathan administration?

Why una dey fear to say the truth?

If bubu remove him,who cares?Has he not been removing,what result have we gain from it?

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by delors(m): 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2015
Only used that naira Mastercard once in 2011...it's as good as useless.
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by Firefire(m): 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2015
repogirl:
open a dollar account in your Nigerian bank, you ask for a dollar Visa card . You then buy dollars with your naira using the bank agent and deposit in your dollar Visa account.

They will charge you $5 dollars or thereabout ontop whatever the black market price is . Then you can operate straight from the dollar Visa card.


Black Market 280N/$ to fund a legitimate transaction ?


Don't you feel this it outrageous ? I am not sure the no $ deposit order has been lifted.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by chinedu1nig(m): 12:38pm On Dec 21, 2015
LordAdam:


Nedu, no provoke me this afternoon.

So you did not read that CBN has reduced the amount of dollars they sell to BDCs? With the restrictions on dollar transactions how will the manufacturers pay for importation of high net-worth machines?

-Lord


Oga are you a machine manufacturer or importer? whats the problem with people for heaven sake. please, ban was placed on finished products like what we can produce in Nigeria not what we cannot produce.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by urchmanx(m): 12:38pm On Dec 21, 2015
JayJustus:


you can pay tuition fees with FORM A...ask your bank...my dad has done it and still did it last month
What of personal upkeep? I guess that is were the question is.
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by 190theclown: 12:38pm On Dec 21, 2015
repogirl:
open a dollar account in your Nigerian bank, you ask for a dollar Visa card . You then buy dollars with your naira using the bank agent and deposit in your dollar Visa account.

They will charge you $5 dollars or thereabout ontop whatever the black market price is. Then you can operate straight from the dollar Visa card.

tHAT NA 2 Much work nau angry
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by neocortex: 12:39pm On Dec 21, 2015
chinedu1nig:


Read before you comment... connect your mouth to your brain idiot... did you read anywhere ban is placed importation of machines?
this is a welcome policy except your family is into illegal business..

You are the one who lacks comprehension skills,
everything doesn't have to be spelt out for you.
I expected only those who understands the topic to
make comment.

Since there is no ban on importation, how do you pay
for your imported machines or goods ?
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by JayJustus(m): 12:39pm On Dec 21, 2015
urchmanx:

What of personal upkeep? I guess that is were the question is.

western union and moneygram bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by urchmanx(m): 12:44pm On Dec 21, 2015
JayJustus:


western union and moneygram bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Sorry bro I have never used western union in Nigeria. Let me ask you one question. Do you source your own dollar or the bank debits your account. And since the op is not in Nigeria. Can he access his account online and make the transfer or is he going to risk his funds to a third party before such transaction is made. Please educate me. I want to understand the situation here.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by AreaFada2: 12:46pm On Dec 21, 2015
santos247:
The new CBN policy is no more news.
Read details here: https://www.nairaland.com/2434811/cbn-restricts-use-naira-denominated#35603203.

However, as a Nigerian in diaspora, i want guys to advise what avenues can i explore to access my funds. I am currently schooling in South Africa and my monthly salary is my major means of survival. My naira Master card has been my regular shopping partner.
Smart guys in the house, what options do i have??


Nna, na only you waka come?

Govt never fit care about those in 9ja proper, talk less give a rat a*s about those offshore. grin cheesy

I have decide to close most of my accounts. No need. You cannot pay hard currency into account in 9ja.

Soon you won't be able to withdraw, matter of time. I saw £ sterling selling for 365 Naira somewhere today.

Why save money in 9ja if you're in diaspora only to lose value?

@OP, my layman's idea is get people travelling to SA to bring hard currency from 9ja. Transfer money online into their account, they bring it to you in dollars, etc.
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by LordAdam: 12:47pm On Dec 21, 2015
chinedu1nig:


Oga are you a machine manufacturer or importer? whats the problem with people for heaven sake. please, ban was placed on finished products like what we can produce in Nigeria not what we cannot produce.

We are not talking about ban. We are talking about buying. Right now, buying is very difficult because dollar-denominated transactions are highly restricted. Do you follow??

-Lord
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by IFELEKE(m): 12:48pm On Dec 21, 2015
Firefire:


First the spending was reduced to $300 Maximum spend per day and $10,000 p.a, now beginning January 1st... nothing at all.

I struggled to pay my hotel bill last week in Zurich, requesting the hotel to please charge me maximum of 296 CHF per day continuously, otherwise they cant make bulk withdrawal when am leaving.

What a monetary policy, what a government of confusion. angry

Cc: Lalasticlala good morning.
Omo Iya,
The CBN said it's trying to save the naira from further bashings at the international market hence the restriction.
Deposit banks(commercial banks) are struggling to make payment for services rendered by the numerous international merchants at a rate not too favourable to them. The sharp disparity in the official and parallel rate of dollar is also not helping matters.
Our banks are heavily indebted to mastercard, visa et al and the CBN does not have any reasonable clue as to bail out so the total restriction is their way of saying no more accumulation of debts!
May God help Nigeria in the year to come...

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by Nicepoker(m): 12:49pm On Dec 21, 2015
santos247:
Those who asked which party i voted for may have this to toy with....

I voted Change..PMB/PYO.

Have we quickly forgotten that this is a CBN policy and not a PMB directive? Who appointed the CBN boss? Is this not a remnant of cluelessness??
enjoy the change in silence.
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by BobUg28(m): 12:51pm On Dec 21, 2015
In my opinion, I 'd say that it's for our own good and part of measure to reduce the rate corruption is eating deep into this country. With time, we will all get use to it...

There is no need complaining. For the fact they deemed it proper to embark on such protocol means they must also make provision for Nigerians students and businessmen and women up there.

It's a nice and unprecedented development coming from APC's government.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by Excellent7(m): 12:53pm On Dec 21, 2015
drnoel:
This just affects the debitCards attached to a naira account and not the ones attached to a Dollar account. Pls People should have their informations right. If anyone has contrary Information that can prove me wrong pls paste link.

How do you fund your Dom account when banks are not accepting cash deposits only wire transfers to Dom account ?
You are not allowed to travel with more than 5,000 USD I think.

Let me make a hypothetical but "real scenario" so you can appreciate the quagmire.
At this moment, it does appear that if I have 10,000 USD cash, and want to travel, my bank wont accept the deposit into my Dom account, and It is apparently illegal to travel with all. So the viable option is to travel with less than or up to 5,000 USD. Since Naira denominated cards now appear out of question, I only travel if the 5,000 USD can fund the expenditures of the business trip, if not I stay back, airlines do not get to sell tickets, income from the airports decline, I lay of some workers and start trying to survive on my capital.

Expect to see the full effects of these policies by beginning of Q2 2016, by then the guys at the top may start trying to press buttons to roll out reactionary measures .... but it will be "good" steps being taken 4-6 months behind.
I know these are difficult times, but the management of things leave much to be desired to me.
Somebody is not running the full scenario and appreciating the interconnected cause and effect relationship of things.
As things are, these policies are annihilating the SMEs.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by repogirl(f): 12:55pm On Dec 21, 2015
Firefire:



Black Market 280N/$ to fund a legitimate transaction ?


Don't you feel this it outrageous ? I am not sure the no $ deposit order has been lifted.
you are not depositing cash... The agent will transfer from his dollar account to yours. You understand?
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by BobUg28(m): 12:55pm On Dec 21, 2015
Skywalker5:
One thing i know is that Nigerians spend a lot of money abroad. From looted money to salary being spent abroad.i think this move reduces such but at the end of the day, its going to always affect a lot of people

Is it not better that way when compared to our bloated politicians carry our money over there? It's true that its gonna affect greater number of Nigerian populace, but it's better that way than leaving it for them all.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by repogirl(f): 12:56pm On Dec 21, 2015
190theclown:


tHAT NA 2 Much work nau angry
what other choice do you have if you need the money seriously?
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by AkinPikin: 1:00pm On Dec 21, 2015
signature2012:


Very wicked bro.Their kids and family won't be affected o.All they will do is to go to their inner vault and bring out dollars for them,when they come abroad,they will spend it lavishly.Na we the masses go suffer am.

When last did you hear them cry "sai baba"?They are the ones that will suffer it more,cause they have put much hope on the " body odour" baba and he has disappointed them.

Where is even my friend " passhingshot"?please your attention is needed here.

Let me try to educate you small my brother.

1. For every $10 a Nigerian spends, $9 comes from crude oil sales by the Federal Government or the national reserves.

2. OBJ left over $70 Billion for Yar'Adua when he left office in 2007. Average oil prices under OBJ was about $65/barrel.

3. Yar'Adua left $65 for GEJ when he died in 2010. Average oil prices under Yar'Adua was about $45/barrel. Remember oil fell to as low as $38/barrel in 2009? Most of the $5 to 7Billion that Yar'Adua spent was to defend the Naira during the global crisis of 2009, save the banks that fell into trouble in 2009, and fund the amnesty programme for the Niger Delta militants. Notice again the difference between what OBJ and Ya'Adua made from oil.

4. GEJ on the other hand, left $29Billion for PMB. Average oil prices under GEJ was $92/barrel. There were months when oil sold for as high as $130/barrel. For 3.5 years (2011 to June 2014), GEJ sold oil for over $100/barrel. For your information, GEJ presided over the richest years in Nigeria's history, yet he ate what we were to have saved and even ate what was handed over to him.

I have told every one who had ears that whoever takes-over in June 2015 was going to see hell - whether it was GEJ or PMB.

I am at least glad that we have removed the bastard that brought our dear country to this sorry state.

PMB can only work with what he has been handed with. That is why he is chasing corrupt people, looking for money to fund the budget and meet his electoral promises. Government is a continuum. The problem we have now was handed over to us by GEJ and his band of rogues. You think we would be where we are today if his government had saved $100Billion in reserves?

I am no ethnic or religious jingoist. I voted for GEJ in 2011. I deeply regret doing so now. I have friends that have lost jobs because of the man's stupidity since late last year.

As they say, opinions are free, but facts are sacred.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by chinedu1nig(m): 1:01pm On Dec 21, 2015
neocortex:


You are the one who lacks comprehension skills,
everything doesn't have to be spelt out for you.
I expected only those who understands the topic to
make comment.

Since there is no ban on importation, how do you pay
for your imported machines or goods ?

olodo ni e. CBN only placed ban on importation of goods that can be sourced locally to encourage local manufacturers.. and if you need dollar to import your machine as you slated, go through CBN since they ordinarily access the dollar from Forex market. there are a lot of things Nigeria can't cope with at the moment.. and note that this are measures to control the market and encourage legitimacy.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by BobUg28(m): 1:02pm On Dec 21, 2015
AbuMaryam1:
The policy will force us by made in Nigeria products, only gullible and corrupted minds are making noise. Becareful I stay abroad and I'm happy with this.


God bless you for making this point. There are only making this appear...since its coming from APC led administration, that it's not a welcome development.
Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by signature2012(m): 1:06pm On Dec 21, 2015
AkinPikin:


Let me try to educate you small my brother.

1. For every $10 a Nigerian spends, $9 comes from crude oil sales by the Federal Government or the national reserves.

2. OBJ left over $70 Billion for Yar'Adua when he left office in 2007. Average oil prices under OBJ was about $65/barrel.

3. Yar'Adua left $65 for GEJ when he died in 2010. Average oil prices under Yar'Adua was about $45/barrel. Remember oil fell to as low as $38/barrel in 2009? Most of the $5 to 7Billion that Yar'Adua spent was to defend the Naira during the global crisis of 2009, save the banks that fell into trouble in 2009, and fund the amnesty programme for the Niger Delta militants. Notice again the difference between what OBJ and Ya'Adua made from oil.

4. GEJ on the other hand, left $29Billion for PMB. Average oil prices under GEJ was $92/barrel. There were months when oil sold for as high as $130/barrel. For 3.5 years (2011 to June 2014), GEJ sold oil for over $100/barrel. For your information, GEJ presided over the richest years in Nigeria's history, yet he ate what we were to have saved and even ate what was handed over to him.

I have told every one who had ears that whoever takes-over in June 2015 was going to see hell - whether it was GEJ or PMB.

I am at least glad that we have removed the bastard that brought our dear country to this sorry state.

PMB can only work with what he has been handed with. That is why he is chasing corrupt people, looking for money to fund the budget and meet his electoral promises. Government is a continuum. The problem we have now was handed over to us by GEJ and his band of rogues. You think we would be where we are today if his government had saved $100Billion in reserves?

I am no ethnic or religious jingoist. I voted for GEJ in 2011. I deeply regret doing so now. I have friends that have lost jobs because of the man's stupidity since late last year.

As they say, opinions are free, but facts are sacred.

This your epistle did not even address the topic been discussed.

Hope you know thousands have lost their job since bubu came into power.

Hope by 2019,GEJ won't be blame for APC woes.

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Re: How Can Nigerians In Diaspora Access Their Funds From 2016 With The CBN Policy? by drnoel: 1:07pm On Dec 21, 2015
Excellent7:


How do you fund your Dom account when banks are not accepting cash deposits only wire transfers to Dom account ?
You are not allowed to travel with more than 5,000 USD I think.

Let me make a hypothetical but "real scenario" so you can appreciate the quagmire.
At this moment, it does appear that if I have 10,000 USD cash, and want to travel, my bank wont accept the deposit into my Dom account, and It is apparently illegal to travel with all. So the viable option is to travel with less than or up to 5,000 USD. Since Naira denominated cards now appear out of question, I only travel if the 5,000 USD can fund the expenditures of the business trip, if not I stay back, airlines do not get to sell tickets, income from the airports decline, I lay of some workers and start trying to survive on my capital.

Expect to see the full effects of these policies by beginning of Q2 2016, by then the guys at the top may start trying to press buttons to roll out reactionary measures .... but it will be "good" steps being taken 4-6 months behind.
I know these are difficult times, but the management of things leave much to be desired to me.
Somebody is not running the full scenario and appreciating the interconnected cause and effect relationship of things.
As things are, these policies are annihilating the SMEs.

To answer ur hypothetical question. You convert ur dollars back to naira and pay it back into ur account. Then u ask your bank to provide with with a dollar account which they would and then u convert ut money back to dollar and have a dollar visa card to back it up. Thhen u are back in the game. U will lose money along the line from all the conversion but ur case is solved.

About how the policy will affect the masses in 2016. We will just wait and see wont we?

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