Na wa. Centuries ago, certain people were deemed beneath the status of others. But it has long been abandoned. Slavery in my place ended centuries ago. All men are now equal officially. The Osu stuff now needs serious reform. The leaders and governors and traditional rulers should do something.

donTbone:

Yes, but the advice of the spiritual head cant still be overlooked!

Advice is not the same with consent or blessing.

Wow! I love how you brilliantly dissected everything. But my concern is how long are this osus gonna keep suffering from an unknown sin some generation unknown committed? Does it have life span? Will it be forever? This things should be stopped. There should be way out. It's shouldn't be left to continue

jasmines:
@funkyibodude @donTbone @Michellla @STFUareyouGod @pinkbarbie @Nubian113 @Strawberrycream

What is osu?
Osus are people who were:
1. banished, sent into exile or cursed for an abominable deed committed by them or their parents. Deeds as grave as incest, incuring the wrath of the local deities through intentional or unintentional acts which in turn triggers a curse on the entire village and the likes.
2. People who are dedicated to serve the village Idols either by choice or force. Their entire lineage can't mix with others. These types often enjoy wealth and beauty from the deity they serve as long as they serve it and face tough battles if they stop.
3. Osus are sometimes people suspected or known to be possesed by powerful spirits capable of bringing ill fortune on the village or those around them and as such are bansished to live in the evil forest with other spirits.

Failing to steer from osus in the past have triggered rows of death, curse or ill-fortune in the family or entire clan of the offenders.

Support is needed from as many people as you can. LOVE IS NOT ENOUGH!!! If love is enough, why do couples break in as little as 1week. Why do ppl date scores of men whom they all loved at a point?

My advice: if she can bear being cut off from family and friends and bear whatever spiritual implications follows those families then she should go ahead.

If she wants to stop, she should xplain to her family that she is ready to do as they wish but she is already pregnant for the man then follow whatever they decide. She will not die if she doesnt marry the man. He's just one man.

mzvyne:
I don't believe I need anybody's 'consent' but God's. Mom and Dad shud better pray I don't fall in love with one they term an 'OSU'... Cos neither hell nor highwaters will deter me.

Be careful what you pray for. You might just get it.

donTbone:

Note this:
Before getting married to anyone, those that must give you their consent are;

1. you pastor or spiritual leader
2. parents
3. siblings
4. closest friends

If any of the above shouldnt concur, see to their reason and have a rethink!
#soft
http://datingyouths..com

what i need is just a girl that love me 70% and it over spiritual,father,siblings are secondary

schumastic:



instead of you to pray for such not to happen your praying for it to happen. no1 will stop you from marrying the person mind you but they surely won't be present on your day including your extended family cus as ur clan is concern, you marrying an outcast makes u one already..for your information try chip in the story to your parents and hear the responds they will give back, before you come here showing of your prowess

I already know what their response will be.... Definitely against...

That one dey for their pocket sha...

feelme3:


Bro, I don't know about islam, but FYI, for christians (heck, morally) the consent of the bride's parents or family goes a long way to determine if the marriage will happen, unless you never marry sha.

Reading a lot of people saying she should go against her family and marry, you never know the true meaning of WAR until you find yourself up in arms against your family.

Beliefs and traditions are very sensitive issues and as much as most people will think or "feel" its easy to tell her to go ahead and bone her people, na when you enter her shoes you go know.

If she wants to make a headway, the key is to start building allies, starting with her siblings, then aunties and uncles. Believe me, its not an easy one, my father in-law was against my marrying her daughter. We were at faceoff for 3 full years and that was the period I gradually won over my wife's siblings, mom and some aunt. In the end, I had one of the sweetest but brief relationship with him before he passed on two months after I did my trad. Funnily, he was even fighting against his kinsmen during the negotiation.
The key here is genuine love. True love can never be broken and will endure every test of time.
Pray for grace and patience, patience, patience. You both will tell your love story to your kids.
NOTE: Don't fight your family and talk the issue over with your man. If he truly loves you he will be the one to stand behind you through it all. Its gonna be a looong road but maybe not.

I speak as an individual. I know no tribe or religion. My stance is based on the the fact that love and respect must be mutual. If my family love me, they should value my happiness more than a simple tradition which I believe has no more value than the killing of twins in the days of Mary Slessor.

I concur that winning them over is a more diplomatic means though.

emorse:


I tried to put that under the radar as much as I could cos its effect is very important as the rest of my comment pointed out.
I'm sorry if I spoke directly to your conscience and you don't like it. The bolded just puts you on the same level as you presumed me to be.

mzvyne:


I already know what their response will be.... Definitely against...

That one dey for their pocket sha...

good you know what their response will be. will end this by asking u a simple ?, in AS genotype couples who suffers and bears the pain, couple or kids?

gudluckgreat:


Lol u speak like a kid.
Imagine a world without your parents,siblings and Kinsmen.
U will be like the nza d who after having a nice meal challenged his chi to a fight

Imagine a life of total sadness after pleasing the kins and tribesmen. At the end of the day, its my life to live. I could as well find my way abroad as many have already done albeit in search of greener pasteur.

Love as I said earlier is key. If we love one another, little things like this will not come between us.

schumastic:



good you know what their response will be. will end this by asking u a simple ?, in AS genotype couples who suffer bears the pain, couple or kids?

Treatment is possible. *smiles*

Quick one bro. Imagine yourself as the Osu here.

emorse:


Sorry bro, but did I just read something about consent up there? The only person whose consent is totally important is the spouse. Others are honorary and can be done without.

I'm sorry for u. when ur people decide to deal with u, u will know they're important.

emorse:


Treatment is possible. *smiles*

guess you should do more research am sure your smart up there and you know better *wink*

schumastic:



good you know what their response will be. will end this by asking u a simple ?, in AS genotype couples who suffers and bears the pain, couple or kids?

The children Ofcourse....

how can u equate genotype incompatibility with segregation ?

emorse:

Treatment is possible. *smiles*
Quick one bro. Imagine yourself as the Osu here.

that's health related sef.... This osu thing is just the wickedness of man at play..

schumastic:


guess you should do more research am sure your smart up there and you know better *wink*

check this out bro [url] http://news.uic.edu/new-treatment-for-sickle-cell-brings-hope-and-a-cure-to-chicago-area-patients[/url]

schumastic:


guess you should do more research am sure your smart up there and you know better *wink*

He's right by the way.

sexaddict08:


I'm sorry for u. when ur people decide to deal with u, u will know they're important.

I'm not surprised. The typical African tradition thrives on fear of the unknown. Never logic.

Basildvalour:
For me, whether OSU or not, that and many other things are just fetish beliefs. Maybe the parents of the lady are not even believers of modern day Christianity or Islam because if they are, they would conclude as I have done that there is no heck with that and they will allow their children live in matrimony.


The lady should go ahead and continue with her wedding plans.

Easier said than done in Igbo land. No amount of Christianity is going to change the Igbo belief system around Osu caste system. Some people will say it's been abolished. Some will say it doesn't matter. Wait until you have an Osu blood in you. As for anything happening to them, nothing will happen. They will just remain out casts. Nothing more. But the word outcast says it all.

mzvyne:


that's health related sef.... This osu thing is just the wickedness of man at play..

You remember how we used to kill our twins until a certain Mary Slessor persuaded us to stop right?

In this day and age people still are caught up in this shiit. When will we black people be delivered from all this nonsense. Smdfh

tranxo:
the only blessing you need is that of both parents. Period

#fact !!!!!...

addictiv:
The Osu system is barbaric, and devilish just as killing of twins, slavery and offering human sacrifices are. It's very unfortunate that in this Morden generation folks are still allowing themselves to be brainwashed and deceived into stuff they don't even know how it all came about. There is a book on amazon by Chinedu Ihekoronye titled "The Outcast", which gives a deep insight into what the Osu system is all about. I recommend it for everyone.
I believe that the girls family doesn't just like the guy or may have a richer guy /family they want to marry their daughter and the best way to discredit the young man is to label him an Osu. Tell me if this osu issue would arise assuming the guy was a billionaire . I won't even want to be associated with anybody that believes in it. Make them no put soapwater inside my champagne.

Sir are you an Igbo man? Do you have Osu in your part of Igbo? If you do am sure you will be sounding differently

donTbone:

First, i said parents not grandparents?


in between! when the marital conflicts sets in, who will she/he run to?
The parent that was rubbished by not listening to them?

We have more than a choice to make in marriage bro!


As for the God's grace...Yes, we so much need it.
But at the same time, wisdom is essential.


Mind you, God showing you your woman in your dream
doesnt mean u wont work b4 u get her...application of wisdom
only makes the dream come true!
#soft

Nothing wrecks a home faster than third parties, parents and pastors inclusive. Don't get me wrong here, they can articulate their opinion, however, the ultimate decision lies between me and my partner. No pastor, parent, friends or relative would have a controlling voice over my marriage to the point where they decide my partner for me.

I believe that a home built on love and God would withstand any minor misunderstanding. Personally, I would prefer talking over my issues with my wife than her reporting our private issues to any pastor.

A typical example why parents should not have the ultimate say is the case raised by the OP. The parents (who probably are christians) is inclined to wreck her love life because of some un-christian cast system. No genuine christian with the spirit of God would speak in the support of such stance.

Chanchit:


This just makes it better, they should all fvck off. That's why I love whites, na for fb you go see say ur pikin don marry.

lol. asswear!!! I once told my mum that. She was pestering me about intra-tribal marriage at the time. She almost freaked out. lol. She calmed down afterwards. No time.

funkyibodude:
A female friend of mine brought up an issue that have been bothering her so much she said that she needs an urgent advice on what to do. Here's her story
She met a guy last year in a friend's get together party and they both fell for each other. According to her story the guy works with an insurance company in Lagos and my friend was about to go for her NYSC when they both met. So because of the heated romance between them, she decided to work her NYSC posting to Lagos state. During her service year the guy proposed to her and she accepted. So they both went for family introduction. Few months after her introduction, her father called her and told her that she should come home that there's something urgent he wants to tell her. When she traveled back home, her dad told her that the have done some investigation into the guy's Family and the discovered that the guy is an OSU ( meaning outcast in Igbo land) and their village still practice the osu caste system. So the implication there is the both can't get married. And if she insist in getting married to him that her family will not be part of it, literally she's on her own with the guy, she's so heart broken now because she loves her family and she told me she can't imagine her world without him. And more so she's few weeks pregnant for him and the have started making plans for their wedding. How can she break this news to her fiancee?!!.. She told me she rather dies than not marry him.



Please I would appreciate matured advice only because this is really a sensitive issue that involves tradition and beliefs, no attacking of any personality or ethnic group. it can happen to anyone out there. Thanks

First of all am Igbo and I need to clarify that my advice is not because am not an Osu. Truely weather u take my advice or not
it's obvious u don't know ur tradition and maybe u parents hardly educate or take ur family home.
From experience of some people I know, the following usually happens when u eventually marry an Osu:

1. Ur family disowns everything concerning u even ur unborn kids.
2. Ur village will equally disown u and disassociate their selves with anything pertaining to u.
3. Usually the first CHILD or CHILDREN DIES or ur CHILDREN WILL SUFFER from strange illness u won't understand.
4. Sometimes for reason I personally don't know the woman may be fruitless for some time before eventually giving birth..
****NOTE**** These are the reasons why OSUs will gently marry their kind or sometimes marry other TRIBES.

Summary: It's just like an IGBO WOMAN getting married to a YORUBA MAN. Something somewhere must go wrong along the line..but it's
not my prayer for U ur friend. Most of the people advising her to go ahead with the marriege dont even know how their village looks like, but
honestly if u ask me, let her look for someone else. After all so many of us have been heart broken severally and yet we moved on...

MODIFIED: Am sorry if my illustration offended anybody but truely shiiiit happens..

Please love is not enough. This Osu thing is a very serious matter and should be taken as such.
My candid advice, listen to your parents and present your current situation to them and work things out with them.
It's not too late to fix things.

P.S. when dem tell una to hold body until marriage una no go listen.

V0lv0:
In this day and age people still are caught up in this shiit. When will we black people be delivered from all this nonsense. Smdfh

you call it nonsense cus you don't know your root

Hmmmm !
@OP Does this osu of a thing have any spiritual implication ? Or its just a cultural thing

If it does,I advice you to stay away, and if it doesn't, I will advice you to look for pple who can talk to your parent to make them understand.

You n your partner will be in charge of your happiness if it does not have any spiritual implication

emorse:


I'm not surprised. The typical African tradition thrives on fear of the unknown. Never logic.

.... your families decision is very important...if anything happens to u its your family that would take care of u, if u die they're the one that would have the final say....
disregard them at ur own peril

emorse:


Treatment is possible. *smiles*

Quick one bro. Imagine yourself as the Osu here.

good thing am not one but if am one then i would rather look for my fellow osu lady and get married to or go outside and get married to someone else..more over it does not have effect on the osu clans but the non osu clans which is y the reason for the advice...

irondome:


Nothing wrecks a home faster than third parties, parents and pastors inclusive. Don't get me wrong here, they can articulate their opinion, however, the ultimate decision lies between me and my partner. No pastor, parent, friends or relative would have a controlling voice over my marriage to the point where they decide my partner for me.

I believe that a home built on love and God would withstand any minor misunderstanding. Personally, I would prefer talking over my issues with my wife than her reporting our private issues to any pastor.

A typical example why parents should not have the ultimate say is the case raised by the OP. The parents (who probably are christians) is inclined to wreck her love life because of some un-christian cast system. No genuine christian with the spirit of God would speak in the support of such stance.

The thing is still annoying me self. Why would a christian not see anything wrong in putting a class (outcast) on a set people probably redeemed by God's grace in Christ. So if your parent as a christian that you are, directs you marry an occultic bride, so you would sit down and allow them to talk you into it.

Note as harsh as the above sounded, a parrallel could be drawn between the above scenario and what the OP's talked her into. Wrecked her love life over ancient occultic belief.