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Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by APCLyingBastard: 12:14pm On Dec 27, 2015
tuale4u:


I am not against tinubu prosecution if there are clear cases of corruption against him.
the fact that he has not be prosecuted does not mean nobody should be prosecuted.


I hear you.

Hypocrites like you will be part of his court supporters carrying placards demanding for his release.


All I know is that that day is not far away. Very soon Buhari will strike down Tinubu's over bloated ego after Tinubu begins to grumble that he isn't getting a fair share in the govt.

Already not a day goes by that one paid online tout or jaundiced hungry man journalist does not write an enconium praising Tinubu for Buhari's victory as if Tinubu got Buhari the Kano and Katsina rigged votes.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 12:18pm On Dec 27, 2015
APCLyingBastard:



I hear you.

Hypocrites like you will be part of his court supporters carrying placards demanding for his release.


All I know is that that day is not far away. Very soon Buhari will strike down Tinubu's over bloated ego after Tinubu begins to grumble that he isn't getting a fair share in the govt.

Already not a day goes by that one paid online tout or jaundiced hungry man journalist does not write an enconium praising Tinubu for Buhari's victory as if Tinubu got Buhari the Kano and Katsina rigged votes.

The truth is that I will love it if Buhari can prosecute all politicians.
But that does not mean the ones he can prosecute should go free because of the ones he cant.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by APCLyingBastard: 12:20pm On Dec 27, 2015
tuale4u:


Nobody is saying so.

Are u saying if there is a bank robbery of five people, one was caught red handed and four fled that we should declare the one we caught innocent because four escape so that our justice wont be selective?

You have a twisted logic.

Where did I call for the suspension on invesrigating any body?

I only stated the rule of law must be respected and that the EFCC should concentrate on preparing an airtight case rather than persecuting and sentencing the accused on the pages of newspapers.

If they have any evidence they should concentrate on preparing a proper brief.

And no case is more serious than another where corruption is involved. If they spend their time and energy more efficiently investigating then I don't see why they can't invite Amaechi to account for 80 billion naira he stole from Rivers to fund Buhari's campaign.

Remember a receiver of stolen goods is considered a criminal under Nigerian laws.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by APCLyingBastard: 12:23pm On Dec 27, 2015
tuale4u:


The truth is that I will love it if Buhari can prosecute all politicians.
But that does not mean the ones he can prosecute should go free because of the ones he cant.


Stop twisting my posts.

I have never advocated for any politician here.

Buhari has appointed thieves into his cabinet.

If you can condemn saraki and Dasuki before any conviction I see no reason why I can't do the same for Tinubu and co.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 12:26pm On Dec 27, 2015
APCLyingBastard:


You have a twisted logic.

Where did I call for the suspension on invesrigating any body?

I only stated the rule of law must be respected and that the EFCC should concentrate on preparing an airtight case rather than persecuting and sentencing the accused on the pages of newspapers.

If they have any evidence they should concentrate on preparing a proper brief.

And no case is more serious than another where corruption is involved. If they spend their time and energy more efficiently investigating then I don't see why they can't invite Amaechi to account for 80 billion naira he stole from Rivers to fund Buhari's campaign.

Remember a receiver of stolen goods is considered a criminal under Nigerian laws.

I agree with u with the airtight investigation aspect.
Newspaper prosecution is united state of America style. which I love.
I know country like Norway, Sweden don't do that because they are socialist countries with little crime.
Nigeria is more like US than he is Norway. so in that regard I am ok with the newspaper part.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by APCLyingBastard: 12:33pm On Dec 27, 2015
tuale4u:


I agree with u with the airtight investigation aspect.
Newspaper prosecution is united state of America style. which I love.
I know country like Norway, Sweden don't do that because they are socialist countries with little crime.
Nigeria is more like US than he is Norway. so in that regard I am ok with the newspaper part.


You are an illiterate.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 12:34pm On Dec 27, 2015
APCLyingBastard:



You are an illiterate.


ok. I also agree. hope you are happy now smiley smiley smiley smiley smiley
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by APCLyingBastard: 12:37pm On Dec 27, 2015
tuale4u:


ok. I also agree. hope you are happy now smiley smiley smiley smiley smiley

Pls stop mentioning me

You irredemable dunce.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 12:40pm On Dec 27, 2015
APCLyingBastard:


Pls stop mentioning me

You irredemable dunce.


I heard you. u can sleep well now.

why go all emotional just because you cannot sustain an argument.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by APCLyingBastard: 12:45pm On Dec 27, 2015
tuale4u:


I heard you. u can sleep well now.

why go all emotional just because you cannot sustain an argument.

I can not sustain an argument with an illiterate.

Look at the rubish you posted here


tuale4u:

I agree with u with the airtight investigation aspect.
Newspaper prosecution is united state of America style. which I love.
I know country like Norway, Sweden don't do that because they are socialist countries with little crime.
Nigeria is more like US than he is Norway. so in that regard I am ok with the newspaper part.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 12:52pm On Dec 27, 2015
APCLyingBastard:


I can not sustain an argument with an illiterate.

Look at the rubish you posted here


What I posted is not nonsense.
What you are calling "newspaper prosecution" is America journalism style.
where cases are discussed and analyzed in the media even before the case even start in court.

I believe it is strongly ok for Nigeria. because our politicians are heartless the way they steal. they deserve no privacy in their prosecution.

Why are you seeking the best form of protection for our politician when the way they steal is the worst from of corruption?
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by APCLyingBastard: 12:53pm On Dec 27, 2015
tuale4u:


What I posted is not nonsense.
What you are calling "newspaper prosecution" is America journalism style.
where cases are discussed and analyzed in the media even before the case even start in court.

I believe it is strongly ok for Nigeria. because our politicians are heartless the way they steal. they deserve no privacy in their prosecution.

Why are you seeking the best form of protection for our politician when the way they steal is the worst from of corruption?

Pls stop mentioning me.

Regards
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by CSTR2: 1:23pm On Dec 27, 2015
ddippset:
The thing I love só much about President Buhari is his immunity to wailings! I have seen him as a man who does whatever it is he's going to do. pdp just be ready. It's a selective anti corruption fight, só what are you going to do about it? You had 16 years in power yet you couldn't even prosecute opposition leaders. And now you're pulling down the man who's at it. Yes Tinubu is untouchable, Amaechi is untouchable, Silva is untouchable, do your worst!
And when PDP regains power, the culture of impunity would have been set and your so-called change leaders and those that voted for them would be at the receiving end.

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Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by obailala(m): 2:57pm On Dec 27, 2015
APCLyingBastard:



So you will rather live the shark in the pool and go for the gold fish?

Did you get your WAEC before you got your primary 6 result?
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by APCLyingBastard: 2:59pm On Dec 27, 2015
obailala:
Did you get your WAEC before you got your primary 6 result?

Dumb analogy.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by obailala(m): 3:03pm On Dec 27, 2015
CSTR2:

And when PDP regains power, the culture of impunity would have been set and your so-called change leaders and those that voted for them would be at the receiving end.
Point of correction, the culture of impunity is like a plant which was planted and nurtured by PDP until it grew to its massive state. Buhari is presently set to uproot that tree, but then, he has to start by cutting the leaves and the branches before he gets to the tap root. Obviously the planters of this tree and their supporters are very uncomfortable with the destruction of their beloved legacy of corruption and impunity. I thank God Buhari doesnt listen or give a damn about these wailings.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by obailala(m): 3:06pm On Dec 27, 2015
APCLyingBastard:


Dumb analogy.
Very well then, give me a better one. Some things are pre-requisites for others. Like I said earlier, it's not as if you do not understand what the Op is talking about, the fact remains that you are sympathetic to these thieves who destroyed Nigeria so you are obviously feigning ignorance in order to drive home your pointless points. But thank God the man up there (PMB) doesnt even listen or give a damn about your endless wails; he doesn't even listen to advice from his own party men, let alone wailers. Nigeria must get better whether you and your ilk like it or not. If you feel too bad about it, dust up your PVCs and wait patiently for 2019 2023 for the unlikely miraculous return of PDP and their culture of celebrating corruption and impunity.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by ddippset(m): 3:46pm On Dec 27, 2015
CSTR2:

And when PDP regains power, the culture of impunity would have been set and your so-called change leaders and those that voted for them would be at the receiving end.
fine! And then bit by bit Nigeria will be a better place.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by lawydewy(m): 5:17pm On Dec 27, 2015
[quote author=tuale4u post=41379998]I have read and heard from many people and PDP sympathizers that the current Buhari anti corruption drive is selective and Bias.

I totally agree it is selective. but I don't agree that it is bias. And there is nothing wrong in it being selective as long as the reason is the best for the country for now. Because I strongly believe it is the best thing and the best way to fight corruption in Nigeria for now. My reasons are as follows:

1. The anti corruption fight is currently concentrated on corruption at the federal level. Buhari anti corruption war is currently not active on state level and former governors. Since federal government was fully controlled by PDP in the last 16years, most corruption at federal level is PDP affair.

2. Buhari greatest interest is to recover fund. The best thing to do in this regard is to concentrate on areas where he can recover the highest amount of stolen fund. And that is federal government and are mostly PDP members.

3. It is almost impossible to prosecute all corrupt cases in Nigeria. So the need to give priority to those with the highest amount and easiest to prosecute. Thus corrupt cases with highest return are within the PDP

4. currently the NSA is the main focus of the anti corruption war at the moment. The reason being because of the amount of money involve and because Buhari govt believe they can recover some billions from the former NSA. Since the former NSA used most of the money for election affair, it is natural that majority of people involve are PDP members

5. maybe in the next two years when the anti corruption war go to state level, some APC members will be prosecuted.

6. We should also recognized that the govt has limited resources and personnel to fight the anti corruption war. so the need to select those that will give the highest impact per resources utilized.

7. It will be very naïve, unwise and stupid for Buhari to focus on corrupt practice of APC members right now. His govt is too young for that. he cannot fight everybody at once even if he wishes to . His govt will crumble if he try that right now. He need to run the govt with Nigerians not aliens. Almost every Nigerian that have held political office has skeleton in their cupboard. thus many APC members have corrupt past. But however this is not the best time for him to open APC members files. Doing that right now will be stupidity and naïve and will be bad for the country. Ability to select the best fight to fight at a time is wisdom and leadership.



8. It may appear unfair to PDP members. but to the Nigeria masses I believe it is fair. PDP were not fair to the masses when they were stealing our treasury dry. I strongly believe all the persons who stole are common wealthy should be brought to book. Whether they are APC or PDP. However, since we cant do all in one day, we must start from somewhere and from those that will give the highest return and impact.

9.The fact that the anti corruption war is currently ignoring APC members does not mean the war is not sincere. It is only a pragmatic approach to a complex problem. When you have a lot of complex problem to solve, you ranked it and choose where to start from. That is currently what is going on.

10. The truth is that all the people who are shouting witch-hunting, "selective", "vendetta" want the anti corruption war to fail. If I have access to Buhari, I will tell him to completely ignore them. Those people want him to fight on all front so that he will lose and then come back to mock him.

11. I know some people will come and say it is hippocracy to currently ignore people like Tinubu etc in the anti-corruption war. But I choose to disagree with them. it is not hippocracy but pragmatism. Even if Buhari have an intention to open Tinubu files, this is not the best time to do it. That can wait for much later. A leader must focus on National interest. it will not be in the interest of Nigeria for tinubu files to be opened at this time should he have corrupt cases. Timing is a major component of decision making and leadership. if you do the right thing at wrong time, it is as good as a wrong thing.

12.I also know some people will argue about Atiku, Obasanjo etc and say why are they not being tried also. Just as I explain earlier, it is much easier to trace fund, files and documents of corrupt practice done in the last 4years than those done in the last 8 or 16years. So it is only practical to concentrate on the last 4 years at the moment. To me, this is wisdom.

13 We need to understand the post is not saying that APC members and older leaders (atiku, OBJ etc) corrupt practice should be ignored. The post is only talking about now. Which is at this current time (t), it is very wise to focus on immediate past PDP govt because it will benefit Nigeria as country more than doing otherwise right now. In the future, the anti corruption drive can spread to others. But now is not the time .

14. The fact that it may not be wise to look at past corrupt act of top APC members right now does not mean Buhari should tolerate massive corruption from his cabinet or ministers. Buhari must ensure any looting under his govt is not tolerated. Should any member of his cabinent be found wanting of corruption under his current govt, the person should be punished with no mercy.

15. I agree this is not the ideal case since everybody are equal before the law in ideal situation. but it is still better than GEJ mindset, who believe that since he cannot jail all corrupt people, everybody should go free. In his mind he was being fair. The truth is that, that was one of the greatest Injustice Jonathan did to Nigerian masses. That empowered every political leader to steal without any fear of consequence.

16. As we hope for the best, we should appreciate what is better than the past. The more we the masses support Buhari anti corruption war, the bolder he will be in fighting it. The bolder he become the less selective he will become and the more APC members will be prosecuted.
Thanks bro!!
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 6:06pm On Dec 27, 2015
CSTR2:

And when PDP regains power, the culture of impunity would have been set and your so-called change leaders and those that voted for them would be at the receiving end.

what buhari is doing is far better than the impunity of PDP. PDP was a mafia gang.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 6:10pm On Dec 27, 2015
obailala:
Very well then, give me a better one. Some things are pre-requisites for others. Like I said earlier, it's not as if you do not understand what the Op is talking about, the fact remains that you are sympathetic to these thieves who destroyed Nigeria so you are obviously feigning ignorance in order to drive home your pointless points. But thank God the man up there (PMB) doesnt even listen or give a damn about your endless wails; he doesn't even listen to advice from his own party men, let alone wailers. Nigeria must get better whether you and your ilk like it or not. If you feel too bad about it, dust up your PVCs and wait patiently for 2019 2023 for the unlikely miraculous return of PDP and their culture of celebrating corruption and impunity.

you nailed it.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Yanks101: 6:39pm On Dec 27, 2015
tuale4u:


what buhari is doing is far better than the impunity of PDP. PDP was a mafia gang.
How is it different?
Is tinubu amaechi or fashola better than other PDP thieves being hunted? The same tinubu that has been known to feed fat on insider contracts in lagos state.
Imagine a PDP presidency hunting fashola and tinubu and leaving the likes of dasuki and anenih to roam free. That is exactly what buhari is doing.
You people are not serious in that country, and the rest of the world is passing you all by on the development train.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 2:14pm On Dec 28, 2015
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Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 2:15pm On Dec 28, 2015
Yanks101:
How is it different?
Is tinubu amaechi or fashola better than other PDP thieves being hunted? The same tinubu that has been known to feed fat on insider contracts in lagos state.
Imagine a PDP presidency hunting fashola and tinubu and leaving the likes of dasuki and anenih to roam free. That is exactly what buhari is doing.
You people are not serious in that country, and the rest of the world is passing you all by on the development train.

PDP had the opportunity to prosecute Tinubu. he did and Tinubu won in court.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 2:29pm On Dec 28, 2015
oduastates:
Sorry to say, Tinubu is a private citizen.Tinubu never held a position in the federal government and he stopped holding a state position almost 10 year ago. Unless you can go back 10 years to prove something, goodluck with that.

Meanwhile, Buhari can only bare his fangs on officials who held federal positions and on other occasions,outrageously corrupt states.
Those federal workers and officials are his immediate constituency. This is where most of the corruption in Nigeria takes place.
By the way, If or not tinubu Is corrupt, his corruption is can be considered milder an less injurious like other states. When I say other states, I mean all the other states.
Lagos is doing just fine and if not for being saddled with the responsibility of other leper states, would be doing even better.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 2:30pm On Dec 28, 2015
ddippset:
fine! And then bit by bit Nigeria will be a better place.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 9:53am On Jan 06, 2016
koboko69:
I have read read many criticisms following the present war on corruption by President Buhari. Many are claiming it is paybay time / pilitical witch hunt. Before such conclusions are made we all need to understand that the ongoing investigations by the EFCC and DSS on the Dansuki gate saka and Money Laundering is at the Federal level.

The immediate past government was headed by the People's Democratic Party. It is expected that benefactors of the Largesse will be mostly members of the political party in power or friends and allies of the past government hence the main reason why most of the people being quizzed and arrested are members/benefactors of PDP.

This should settle the question that "does it mean all members of the APC are saints"
No, Mr president can't start probing each states funds. Being that most of the members of APC had access to loot only state funds of where they were in power. It is the duty of present state governors to investigate and prosecute whoever is found wanting be it APC member or PDP member.

Dansuki have been in custody and would have mentioned any APC benefactor of his Largesse. Let we Nigerians support the present fight against corruption irrespective of political affiliations. These people disregarded the rule of law and Constitution when stealing our common wealth but will always want the rule of law and constitution to save them when being hunted.

If Olisah Metu or FFK are benefactors of Dansuki gate, they should assemble a team of good lawyers to defend their case.

May God bless Nigeria!
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 10:02am On Jan 06, 2016
obailala:
Point of correction, the culture of impunity is like a plant which was planted and nurtured by PDP until it grew to its massive state. Buhari is presently set to uproot that tree, but then, he has to start by cutting the leaves and the branches before he gets to the tap root. Obviously the planters of this tree and their supporters are very uncomfortable with the destruction of their beloved legacy of corruption and impunity. I thank God Buhari doesnt listen or give a damn about these wailings.
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 10:36am On Jan 06, 2016
Nigeria masses must wake up from their slumber
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by Nobody: 10:38am On Jan 06, 2016
Kyase:
Pressure groups in the South-South and South-East geopolitical zones under the aegis of the Homeland Watch and Awareness Initiative (HWAI) has declared support for the ongoing anti-corruption war of the President Muhammadu Buhari-led administration.The groups called for the review and amendment of the country’s anti-terrorism act to accommodate a proper terminal punishment for terror offenders and their sponsors.Addressing newsmen on behalf of thegroups in Port Harcourt, the Rivers State capital yesterday, the coordinator of the National Neighbourhood Watch Project, Mr. Charles Inko-Tariah, said they were convinced with the policies and programmes of the Buhari-led administration.Inko-Tariah said, “We wish to unequivocally identify with the anti-corruption campaign and wind ofchange of President Muhammadu Buhari-led administration. We are highly convinced with the policies andprogrammes of the present administration.


http://leadership.ng/news/489408/south-east-groups-back-pmbs-anti-corruption-war
Re: Why people facing corruption charges are mostly PDP members at the moment by obailala(m): 11:30am On Jan 06, 2016
What's the difference between this thread and the one which was just thrown on the frontpage? undecided

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