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Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 10:01am On Dec 30, 2015
Freemanan:


Still as scheduled ??

Yes sir, but it will be TEAM AAUA and TeamDelsu now.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Nobody: 10:04am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:


Yes sir, but it will be TEAM AAUA and TeamDelsu now.

Hope you know thats my Alma mata?
I dont want any libel of being bias.
So is it cool to proceed?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by awesome11(m): 10:38am On Dec 30, 2015
I think in as much as the participants are honing their skills in order to deliver essays with more quality, it is only fair that the judges do same. Having gone through some results, I'm at a loss how much some of the chosen judges know about the art of argument. I'm almost tempted to think bias!

Go through those essays again with an unbiased mindset, evaluate the number of Likes each essay has received, and you should understand what I mean...

I think it's hightime you chose only past winners and runners up of this competition as Judges..

1 Like

Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by smithsammy(m): 10:46am On Dec 30, 2015
awesome11:
I think in as much as the participants are honing their skills in order to deliver essays with more quality, it is only fair that the judges do same. Having gone through some results, I'm at a loss how much some of the chosen judges know about the art of argument. I'm almost tempted to think bias!

Go through those essays again with an unbiased mindset, evaluate the number of Likes each essay has received, and you should understand what I mean...

I think it's hightime you chose only past winners and runners up of this competition as Judges..
I agree with you
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 10:46am On Dec 30, 2015
Freemanan:


Hope you know thats my Alma mata?
I dont want any libel of being bias.
So is it cool to proceed?


Ooooo... A change then sir..
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 10:47am On Dec 30, 2015
smithsammy:
I agree with you


Past winners that are graduate.



ThelastNazgul.


The only one we have.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 10:49am On Dec 30, 2015
awesome11:
I think in as much as the participants are honing their skills in order to deliver essays with more quality, it is only fair that the judges do same. Having gone through some results, I'm at a loss how much some of the chosen judges know about the art of argument. I'm almost tempted to think bias!

Go through those essays again with an unbiased mindset, evaluate the number of Likes each essay has received, and you should understand what I mean...

I think it's hightime you chose only past winners and runners up of this competition as Judges..



Lol you can't judge how good an essay is with the number of likes.... Am sure you know that?


And what is the assurance that @bolded when meet won't be label with been bias also?.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by awesome11(m): 10:54am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:




Lol you can't judge how good an essay is with the number of likes.... Am sure you know that?


Yea, one can't, due to sycophancy and some other issues. But then, it could be an indication!
Go through those essays( Team 5, Team 1) again, then you will have a rethink.. To me, the work by eduntee is quite better than that of iamdejman, but the result ain't reflecting that!!
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by smithsammy(m): 10:55am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:



Past winners that are graduate.



ThelastNazgul.


The only one we have.
snoopy is now also a graduate, I suppose.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 10:57am On Dec 30, 2015
awesome11:



Yea, one can't, due to sycophancy and some other issues. But then, it could be an indication!
Go through those essays( Team 5, Team 1) again, then you will have a rethink.. To me, the work by eduntee is quite better than that of iamdejman, but the result ain't reflecting that!!


No you are wrong go back and check. Eduntee was. Scored high and he was the best debater for TEAM 1
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by awesome11(m): 10:57am On Dec 30, 2015
grin
smithsammy:
I agree with you
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 10:58am On Dec 30, 2015
smithsammy:
snoopy is now also a graduate, I suppose.


Not aware about that....


If they wish to join us no problem. I could remember I personally asked ThelastNazgul, but he said he will think about.....
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by awesome11(m): 11:02am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:


No you are wrong go back and check. Eduntee was. Scored high.
IamDejman

Presentation - 3.5 Logic of argument - 4 Strength of facts - 4 Persuasiveness - 4 Demonstration of knowledge And understanding of the subject - 4 Total = 19.5 marks.

Eduntee Presentation - 3 Logic of argument - 4 Strength of facts - 4 Persuasiveness - 3.5 Demonstration of knowledge And understanding of the subject - 3.5 Total = 18marks.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 11:03am On Dec 30, 2015
awesome11:


IamDejman


Presentation - 3.5
Logic of argument - 4
Strength of facts - 4
Persuasiveness - 4
Demonstration of knowledge
And understanding of the subject - 4
Total = 19.5 marks.


Eduntee
Presentation - 3
Logic of argument - 4
Strength of facts - 4
Persuasiveness - 3.5
Demonstration of knowledge
And understanding of the subject - 3.5
Total = 18marks.


Over all check it... That's the reason why we use two judges. Soon you will understand why a lecturer will grade a student A and another lecturer will grade such A student B it's more than been bias. I wish I can give you three reasons now, but I can't till some other time. wink


I will just Advice you all to cooperate with our judges, I am very sure that the best team will be the winner. That am confident of.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by smithsammy(m): 11:04am On Dec 30, 2015
awesome11:



Yea, one can't, due to sycophancy and some other issues. But then, it could be an indication!
Go through those essays( Team 5, Team 1) again, then you will have a rethink.. To me, the work by eduntee is quite better than that of iamdejman, but the result ain't reflecting that!!
I don't think the number of likes garnered by partcipants' essay is objective enough to judge their work. Remember, some schools have users here on NL than others. Only few of those likes are borne out of objectivit.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by awesome11(m): 11:05am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:



Over all check it...


What does matter is that the parts make up the whole.. A faulty part = A faulty whole!!
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by smithsammy(m): 11:06am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:



Not aware about that....


If they wish to join us no problem. I could remember I personally asked ThelastNazgul, but he said he will think about.....
yea, I saw the conversation between you two then.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 11:08am On Dec 30, 2015
smithsammy:
yea, I saw the conversation between you two then.


Me. Was just joking ni...




Snoopy is this for real?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by awesome11(m): 11:08am On Dec 30, 2015
smithsammy:
I don't think the number of likes garnered by partcipants' essay is objective enough to judge their work. Remember, some schools have users here on NL than others. Only few of those likes are borne out of objectivit.


Yea, sycophancy issue.. I already said that... I'm not bent on using that as a criteria.. I'm not that silly..

But then, coordinators should re-read all essays and evaluate judges performance.. I saw an appointed judge up there reminding fynestboi he/she has been tasked with judging his/her alma mater..
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 11:08am On Dec 30, 2015
awesome11:



What does matter is that the parts make up the whole.. A faulty part = A faulty whole!!


Don't tell me you expect the both judges score sheet to tally. undecided



Over all check it... That's the reason why we use two judges. Soon you will understand why a lecturer will grade a student A and another lecturer will grade such A student B it's more than been bias. I wish I can give you three reasons now, but I can't till some other time.


I will just Advice you all to cooperate with our judges, I am very sure that the best team will be the winner. That am confident of.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by smithsammy(m): 11:12am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:



Me. Was just joking ni...




Snoopy is this for real?
I mean between you and the lastnazgul
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by awesome11(m): 11:12am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:



Don't tell me you expect the both judges score sheet to tally. undecided



Over all check it... That's the reason why we use two judges. Soon you will understand why a lecturer will grade a student A and another lecturer will grade such A student B it's more than been bias. I wish I can give you three reasons now, but I can't till some other time.


I will just Advice you all to cooperate with our judges, I am very sure that the best team will be the winner. That am confident of.

Of course... I'm not expecting it to tally but at least, it should be a true reflection of participants' performances. A faulty grade sent in by any of them could as well nullify that of the other judge!!

I'm taking you by your words.... The best team will win!!!
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 11:12am On Dec 30, 2015
awesome11:



Yea, sycophancy issue.. I already said that... I'm not bent on using that as a criteria.. I'm not that silly..

But then, coordinators should re-read all essays and evaluate judges performance.. I saw an appointed judge up there reminding fynestboi he/she has been tasked with judging his/her alma mater..



Lol. That's one of the way to test the transparency of judges, Jarus is an Alumnus of OAU and yet he judge OAU debate.

He said something that I held tight. He said Judging his Alma mater he will be expecting much from them, and if they refused to give him, he won't be lenient on them....



We stopped using judges from their Alma mater due to some reasons.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Aminat508(f): 11:13am On Dec 30, 2015
shocked undecided
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 11:13am On Dec 30, 2015
smithsammy:
I mean between you and the lastnazgul



Oooo OK...
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by awesome11(m): 11:15am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:




Lol. That's one of the way to test the transparency of judges, Jarus is an Alumnus of OAU and yet he judge OAU debate.

He said something that I held tight. He said Judging his Alma mater he will be expecting much from them, and if they refused to give him, he won't be lenient on them....



We stopped using judges from their Alma mater due to some reasons.

Wetin dey do me sef? It's ur competition..
Choose judges as you deem fit..
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Nobody: 11:15am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:
Epaul how far about the search?
Gotten someone, in the sobriquet of 'Jeremyaaa09'. Only that he is a little not comfortable with the slated date for the debate. And i, on my part, had stayed my essay since i wasn't cocksure i was going to be brooked to participate alone given past precedent in the previous editions. I don't know if there can be a slight change of the date. Trust me, i hate asking for too much. But given the circumstance, i'm compelled to. Please.

Cc: Jeremyaaa09
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 11:16am On Dec 30, 2015
Awesome11 As per pairing judges with their Alma mater. It speaks volume of such judge personality...

One of the participant then, mail me and she was, why is Jarus always scoring us low, sebi he is an Alumnus of OAU.



I saw the mail and smile....
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by smithsammy(m): 11:16am On Dec 30, 2015
Fynestboi:




Lol. That's one of the way to test the transparency of judges, Jarus is an Alumnus of OAU and yet he judge OAU debate.

He said something that I held tight. He said Judging his Alma mater he will be expecting much from them, and if they refused to give him, he won't be lenient on them....



We stopped using judges from their Alma mater due to some reasons.
yea! I was going to say this.
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 11:17am On Dec 30, 2015
Epaul:
Gotten someone, in the sobriquet of 'Jeremyaaa09'. Only that he is a little not comfortable with the slated date for the debate. And i, on my part, had stayed my essay since i wasn't cocksure i was going to be brooked to participate alone given past precedent in the previous editions. I don't know if there can be a slight change of the date. Trust me, i hate asking for too much. But given the circumstance, i'm compelled to. Please.

Cc: Jeremyaaa09



So which date?
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by smithsammy(m): 11:20am On Dec 30, 2015
Epaul:
Gotten someone, in the sobriquet of 'Jeremyaaa09'. Only that he is a little not comfortable with the slated date for the debate. And i, on my part, had stayed my essay since i wasn't cocksure i was going to be brooked to participate alone given past precedent in the previous editions. I don't know if there can be a slight change of the date. Trust me, i hate asking for too much. But given the circumstance, i'm compelled to. Please.

Cc: Jeremyaaa09
lest you are termed oliver twist. Lol!
Re: Nairaland Interschool Debate Fourth Edition Chatroom by Fynestboi: 11:20am On Dec 30, 2015
awesome11:


Wetin dey do me sef? It's ur competition..
Choose judges as you deem fit..





Ntn do you sir, airing your view is the best, as a participant. It's not my competition... Am I the one to debate? Why then is it mine?

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