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Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by BETATRON(m): 5:25pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
malvisguy212:lol...understanding things hard for you oh..which language you be abeg lemme speak you language maybe you will understand 2 Likes |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 5:44pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
malvisguy212: |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 5:45pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
malvisguy212:nawa o |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 6:09pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
BETATRON:muhammed keep on forgotten verses and abrogates them , replaces them with new verses. In Asbab al-Nuzul, p. 19, al-Suyuti wrote: “Ibn ’Abbas himself said, ‘Sometimes the revelation used to descend on the prophet during the night and then he forgot it during daytime, thus God sent down this verse: 2:106.” Is it acceptable or sensible to think that God changes his mind during the course of the night? Can the eternal Word of God which was revealed during the night become invalid the following day? Is this what Yusuf Ali meant by progressive revelation in Islam? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 6:10pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:better you stay mute. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 6:18pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
malvisguy212: gerrarahia mhen! I have chosen to keep mute on already refuted trash, you guys keep recycling the same bullsh'it everyday after they've been refuted, when you have a new question, you can call me, but this one is a no issue for me. sorry huh, try harder!! |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 6:21pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
@BETRATON, You better forget that guy, he doesn't understand anything, his mind is locked to anything you or any Muslim has to say, I'm speaking from experience. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by BETATRON(m): 6:27pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:this is when a yoruba man will say "opolo ti sun" |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 6:34pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:refute what. Muhammed wanted to write something that will help muslims not to go astray , but he die not write it, the only response to this," the hadith is not true" and you called this refute ? Muhammed keep on forgotten verses and abrogates them with different ones. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 7:09pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
malvisguy212:have you finished wailing? oya face front if you have nothing to say. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 7:12pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
BETATRON:That is it! |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by analice107: 7:44pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
BETATRON:Really? Even Christ practiced Islam? But am trying to understand why, we Christians are not running around beheading those who don't believe in Christ. Okay, We Christians believe in Trinity, So be justified in your hatred. The Jews don't, why the Islamic hatred against the Jews? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by BETATRON(m): 8:07pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
analice107:hatred not hatred bro..the jews also gave God a son--ezra Does who. Kill or behead people for their unbelieve in islam are not following the teachings of the koran Let there be no Compulsion in religion because truth stand clear from error-quran2vs256 Another one says-call people to the way of thy LORD with WISDOM and GOOD exhortation16:125 The koran even proclaims--do not let Hatred for a people lead you towards injustice War is only allowed in islam in the case of defense not offense 1 Like |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 8:41pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
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Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 8:52pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
BETATRON:This is a lie. Beheading in Islam is not a new phenomenon by any means. It is as old as Islam. Muslims get their motivation to behead their victims from the following Qur’anic verse: Surah 8:12: “When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore STRIKES OFF THEIR HEADS and strike off every fingertip of them.” (Shakir) Surah 8:67: “It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land.” (Pickthall) Saudi Arabia is the birthplace of Islam. The Qur’an is the constitution of Saudi Arabia. Islamic Sharia laws are formulated from the Qur’an and Hadiths which permit beheadings of both the infidels and criminals. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by BETATRON(m): 9:33pm On Jan 02, 2016 |
malvisguy212:lol you missed a lot of point maybe intentionally or unintentionally(sentimentally)..you only quoted quran8-12 because it affirms your claim hence you paid a deaf ear to quran8:1 to 11 Let examine verse 9 of the same surah- it states--9. (Remember) when you sought help of your Lord and He answered you (saying): "I will help you with a thousand of the angels each behind the other (following one another) in succession." Now I put it to you--who seek for help---the one who is out numbered,distressed and under attack or the one with overwhelming number,attacks and who is rest assured of winning? apply your reason before you respond --as regards--this goes a long way to explain surah8vs67 also Need I mention that this verse was revealed during the battle of badr..maybe you should also study the historical battle of badr and see for you self who was the oppressors ----the same surah states that--And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, pROSECUTIoN) and religion should be only for Allah"?-8 Vs39 The verse clearly states that the muslims should fight until there is no more prosecution in the land --i also put it to you..is fighting against prosecution a defensive or an offensive war? 3 Likes |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Rilwayne001: 3:40am On Jan 03, 2016 |
BETATRON: As you can see, he is copying and pasting those trash. Of course you don't expect him to understand what he is doing. Biko, leave that illiterate. 1 Like |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 9:09am On Jan 03, 2016 |
BETATRON:lies! Rasul” page 464): “When Banu Qurayza Jewish tribe was surrendered (627 A.D.) unconditionally, the apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar. Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still its market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and STRUCK OFF THEIR HEADS in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches tying theirs both hands with their necks. This beheading went on until the apostle made an end of them. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. Apparently Muhammad himself worked on the digging of the trench into which the massacred Jews were to be thrown. But he (Muhammad) did not only take part in those preparations, the formulation of the text states but also participated himself in beading of at least two of the leading Jews. The Laws of Islamic Governance, Translated by Dr. Asadullah Yate, p. 192: As for the captives, the Amir (Ruler) has the choice of taking the most beneficial action of four possibilities: the first, to put them to death by CUTTING THEIR NECKS ; the second, to enslave them and apply the laws of slavery regarding their sale and manumission; the third, to ransom them in exchange for goods or prisoners; and fourth, to show favor to them and pardon them. Allah, the exalted says, ‘When you encounter those who deny the Truth then strike their necks’ (Surah 47:4).” 1 Like |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 9:54am On Jan 03, 2016 |
malvisguy212, when will you stop this copying and pasting? i have comprehensively explained the issue of the beheading of banu quraytha in THIS THREAD, make sure you peruse the thread up to the 2nd page, moreover it wasnt even Muhammad pbuh that gave the judgement of beheading, it was sa'ad(a former ally of the banu quraytha)that gave the judgement, banu quraytha chose him themselves to be their judge, and sa'ad gave the judgement according to this bible verse Deut20:12-14 "If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies." |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 10:02am On Jan 03, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:shut up , I provide evidence, the Islamic sharia law support beheading. “beheading” is the prescribed method of Islamic killing. Islamists also consider beheading as the most degrading way of killing kafirs (infidels). Muslim extremists love to use this brutal method to kill infidels because of their hatred for all those who do not accept their form of worship. Islam is an evil barbaric religion of hatred, violence and cruelty. And this hatred is built on the foundation of the Book of Hate. Deutoronumy is the old covenant, we are not bound by the law, and not all laws in the old testament apply to christians. 1 Like |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 10:33am On Jan 03, 2016 |
malvisguy212:i am 100% sure you either didnt read my post up there or you were too dumb to understand it. Ok, lets assume you are not bounded by the "old covenant" can you say the same for the banu quraytha, in case you dont know, banu quraytha were jews and they believed in this "old covenant", since they believed in it, they were judged using it, so whats your problem with that? and yes! never should you tell me to shut up, if you do, you wont like the outcome, ok? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 1:13pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:what a confused man you are, Jews believe in the old covenant does not change anything, God promised the Jews in the book of Jeremiah that He will make a new covenant with them, believing in the old covenant indicated they are acting contrary to God plan and purpose. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 1:23pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
malvisguy212:the jews of today/banu quraytha, are/were they bounded by the torah or not? also when has the jews ever obeyed God? if they do obey God, they should've accepted jesus pbuh as the messiah. I can see you clearly have nothing to say, hence the rubbish you are saying! |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 1:34pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:the Jews 100 percent believe in the torah, did I condemned the torah ? I say, not all laws in the torah apply to christians, there are laws God gave to the isrealite how to deal with difficult situation , example, nothing like bank loan during the exedus era, so God allowed the Jews to volunteers to work for their master in other to pay debt, God provide law to Guide this slaves. So the points is not All law apply to christians, infact the mosaic law are only for the jews, NOT For the Gentile. |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 1:42pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
malvisguy212:Ah don die today , what i'm i saying what are you saying? did i bring christianity to this? i said the JEWS were judged using their torah, which happens to be deutronomy in the OT, letting you know that the judgement of sa'ad wasnt based on cruelty, but was based on what the jews themselves believe in, whats so difficult to understand there? take a deep breath, go to my post again where i talked about the beheading, and read with a mind of understanding, ok? |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by BETATRON(m): 1:46pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:malvisguy212 please take the bolded as your 2016 resolution 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 2:01pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:soo an arab man ignored the quran, and use the bible to judge ? You muslims can go to any lent to lie, just bring another lie , sharia law is base in the bible. Surah 5:33-“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution (by beheading), or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;” |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by BETATRON(m): 2:07pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
malvisguy212:@ the bolded what is the punishment for planning coup? The verse clearly state that the punishment is for does who plan "coup" that is mastermind an attack on the muslim nation--are you sure you read it or you just copied straight from the internet and paste the moderators should start banning people for mindless copy and pasting--so google "en-shackled" |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 2:18pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
malvisguy212:you see what unnecessary hate is doing to your brain? if the banu quraytha were judged using the quran, it is people like you that will open their brown teeth and shout, injustice! injustice! now they were judged by the torah which they believe in and you say why were they not judged by the quran? why are you so lazy to read? i referred you to a thread where i talked on the issue thouroughly, you refused to look it up, you need to go for a remedial class, really! if you had perused the thread, you will see that sa'ad judgement follows deut20:12-14 line by line. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by malvisguy212: 2:46pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:liar, the arab are the custodians of the Jewish scripture? Deception. 1 Like |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Annunaki(m): 3:01pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Abeg stop this al taquiya nonsense 1 Like |
Re: The Revelation Which Failed To Make It To The Quran by Nobody: 3:05pm On Jan 03, 2016 |
malvisguy212:what is this one saying? read malvisguy, read! |
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