Dear fellow Christians, please kindly enlighten me more and please don't abuse my ignorance. I am a bit confused about what goes on in the Christendom now. We now refer to Jesus himself as God, but in Matthew 3:17 after Jesus' baptism, a voice said 'this is my beloveth child....' I believe that voice to be of God, the Father. Also in John 14:6 Jesus said 'I am the way....... no one comes to the father but by me.' All these indicate that there is still a superior being over Jesus, who is the father (God). How come we have now cancelled the Father (God) and now refer to Jesus as God himself
? Please kindly enlighten me, don't abuse.

He is clearly not God. (John 3:16) (John 17:3) ......and more

Jesus is not God now he is only a prophet of God

Freiden:
He is clearly not God. (John 3:16) (John 17:3) ......and more

Why then do we say 'Jesus is a mighty God' ?

pdppower:
Why then do we say 'Jesus is a mighty God' ?

A mighty god is definitely not the same as the almighty God. Isaiah 9;6 describes the yet to be born Jesus as a mighty god. But no where does the scripture equal Jesus and his father, the Almighty. Jesus himself confirmed it, John 14:28, 17:3

vfactor:



A mighty god is definitely not the same as the almighty God. Isaiah 9;6 describes the yet to be born Jesus as a mighty god. But no where does the scripture equal Jesus and his father, the Almighty. Jesus himself confirmed it, John 14:28, 17:3

Thanks. If Jesus is described as ' a mighty god' and his father the Almighty is God, how many gods are there then ?

pdppower:
Thanks. If Jesus is described as ' a mighty god' and his father the Almighty is God, how many gods are there then ?

Apostle paul answer that question; 1 cor. 8:5 says many

So even christians don't know who they worship, op let this atheist enlightening you, just let your brain drift.

Yes, Jesus is also God in the sense that he is the blessed trinity, God the father,son and holy spirit, the son part is what you know as Jesus, the holy spirit part is why you conceive him to be immortal and does magic lol while the father part is you being created in his image. That's that about the fairytales of God existence and crappy tales of Jesus.

However, in the real world Jesus and God only exist in your mind and nothing more but you would hate my opinion about it because it wasn't taught in school but guess what? Even the school system is poison. And I'm proud atheist because I got informations the school system would never dare to teach.

pdppower:
Dear fellow Christians, please kindly enlighten me more and please don't abuse my ignorance. I am a bit confused about what goes on in the Christendom now. We now refer to Jesus himself as God, but in Matthew 3:17 after Jesus' baptism, a voice said 'this is my beloveth child....' I believe that voice to be of God, the Father. Also in John 14:6 Jesus said 'I am the way....... no one comes to the father but by me.' All these indicate that there is still a superior being over Jesus, who is the father (God). How come we have now cancelled the Father (God) and now refer to Jesus as God himself
? Please kindly enlighten me, don't abuse.

Here's a video explaining the trinity if u interested :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUy-H5MmeGU

Part 2 deals with some objections :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1FlAC3hz5c

aaronson:
So even christians don't know who they worship, op let this atheist enlightening you, just let your brain drift.

Yes, Jesus is also God in the sense that he is the blessed trinity, God the father,son and holy spirit, the son part is what you know as Jesus, the holy spirit part is why you conceive him to be immortal and does magic lol while the father part is you being created in his image. That's that about the fairytales of God existence and crappy tales of Jesus.

However, in the real world Jesus and God only exist in your mind and nothing more but you would hate my opinion about it because it wasn't taught in school but guess what? Even the school system is poison. And I'm proud atheist because I got informations the school system would never dare to teach.

Thanks a bunch for your enlightenment. But if you don't believe in God, can you shed a bit of light on your creation ? Don't tell me you and your fore generations evolved from ...( no insult meant) .

pdppower:
Thanks. If Jesus is described as ' a mighty god' and his father the Almighty is God, how many gods are there then ?

Plenty.

Heb 1:8,9 talks about 2 of them. One is a God to the other God .

pdppower:
Thanks a bunch for your enlightenment. But if you don't believe in God, can you shed a bit of light on your creation ? Don't tell me you and your fore generations evolved from ...( no insult meant) .

its no insult, its a good question to determine the level of one's ignorance. Like you asked I'm gonna answer and same time getting your brain to work badly damaging your ignorance, Because you gonna be doing most of the researches and coming back here to give me answers, just for clarity....first off, Get on google make a research, How old is the universe and how old is christianity? Get me the answer of both, let me start my explanation from there.

aaronson:
So even christians don't know who they worship, op let this atheist enlightening you, just let your brain drift.

Yes, Jesus is also God in the sense that he is the blessed trinity, God the father,son and holy spirit, the son part is what you know as Jesus, the holy spirit part is why you conceive him to be immortal and does magic lol while the father part is you being created in his image. That's that about the fairytales of God existence and crappy tales of Jesus.

However, in the real world Jesus and God only exist in your mind and nothing more but you would hate my opinion about it because it wasn't taught in school but guess what? Even the school system is poison. And I'm proud atheist because I got informations the school system would never dare to teach.

Did Nothing created everything?

Richirich713:


Did Nothing created everything?

Good thing about your ignorance is you proud of it. Keep it up.

pdppower:
Why then do we say 'Jesus is a mighty God' ?

He's a mighty God god....while his father is the Almighty God

pdppower:
Thanks. If Jesus is described as ' a mighty god' and his father the Almighty is God, how many gods are there then ?

You can also be a god, in case you don't know. Anybody can be a god. 'Mighty' makes the difference.

Freiden:


He's a mighty God god....while his father is the Almighty God

But the 'god' my brethrens call Jesus is not the one with small 'g'.

pdppower:
But the 'god' my brethrens call Jesus is not the one with small 'g'.

That's the mistake people make. That the majority makes that mistake doesn't make it right

Jesus is God.

He is the express image of the invisible God. God is eternally invisible, Jesus Christ is His anthropomorphic representation.

Jesus is God. The Bible is very clear on this. You have to believe the Bible to understand this. In Isaiah 9: 6 quoted above, the baby Jesus foretold to be born is the mighty God and not "mighty god". He is also to be everlasting Father and not "everlasting father". Check your Bible. This claim is asserted by Jesus Himself in Revelation 1:8. "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

only in this our Christianity God d father, God d son Jesus Christ, God the spirit Holy spirit and God d the mother= holy Mary mother of god... which one are we to follow? so many questions on judgement day .

pdppower:
Dear fellow Christians, please kindly enlighten me more and please don't abuse my ignorance. I am a bit confused about what goes on in the Christendom now. We now refer to Jesus himself as God, but in Matthew 3:17 after Jesus' baptism, a voice said 'this is my beloveth child....' I believe that voice to be of God, the Father. Also in John 14:6 Jesus said 'I am the way....... no one comes to the father but by me.' All these indicate that there is still a superior being over Jesus, who is the father (God). How come we have now cancelled the Father (God) and now refer to Jesus as God himself
? Please kindly enlighten me, don't abuse.

Jesus has TWO nature, fully God and fully man. This nature are distinct to each other. It was not God the father that incarnate in the flesh, it was God the son. During the baptism, it was God the father Voice came from heaven, when the disciple ask Jesus to teach them how to pray , Jesus say ," our father IN HEAVEN" GOD the father is in heaven, it was God the son who incarnate in Jesus is speaking . The holy spirit is God, we saw Him discern as a dove. Now, this 3 are ONE in NATURE, with the same personalities.

So in conclusion;
1: the Bible teaches that the Godhead is one in nature.
2: the Bible teaches that God the Father is one personality of the Godhead.
3: the Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is one personality of the Godhead.
4: the Bible teaches that Jesus the Son is one personality of the Godhead.

Conclusion: Therefore, God is composed of three personalities in one nature.

Have you ever seen a demon being cast out from a man ? Prior to his deliverance , you will notice, the victim will be speaking with a different voice, after he was heal, he will deny it, because the demon and the man are distinct from each other.

The above example is how God the son incarnate in Jesus.

leksbore:
only in this our Christianity God d father, God d son Jesus Christ, God the spirit Holy spirit and God d the mother= holy Mary mother of god... which one are we to follow? so many questions on judgement day .

The Trinity states that:
1 there is only one God by nature
2 there are three Persons (Father, Son,
Holy Spirit) who all share the divine nature
3 and that all three Persons are distinct.

Jesus, the Son, in His incarnation took upon Himself a human nature and was 100% God and 100% man. When He worshiped God was he worshipping Himself? When He was praying to God was He praying to Himself? No, in His human nature he was worshipping the
Father who was God, because that is the proper duty of man.

malvisguy212:
The Trinity states that:
1 there is only one God by nature
2 there are three Persons (Father, Son,
Holy Spirit) who all share the divine nature
3 and that all three Persons are distinct.

Jesus, the Son, in His incarnation took upon Himself a human nature and was 100% God and 100% man. When He worshiped God was he worshipping Himself? When He was praying to God was He praying to Himself? No, in His human nature he was worshipping the
Father who was God, because that is the proper duty of man.

is this trinity in d bible?

MrPresident1:
Jesus is God.

He is the express image of the invisible God. God is eternally invisible, Jesus Christ is His anthropomorphic representation.

Image!, representation!

malvisguy212:
Jesus has TWO nature, fully God and fully man.

This belief is not in the scriptures, it is man made.

This nature are distinct to each other. It was not God the father that incarnate in the flesh, it was God the son.

The word "god the son cannot be found in the scripture"

During the baptism, it was God the father Voice came from heaven, when the disciple ask Jesus to teach them how to pray , Jesus say ," our father IN HEAVEN" GOD the father is in heaven, it was God the son who incarnate in Jesus is speaking .

The use of the words "god the son" and "incarnate" are words created to confuse people.

The holy spirit is God, we saw Him discern as a dove. Now, this 3 are ONE in NATURE, with the same personalities.

These statement are also not found in the scriptures.
Discerning as a dove does not mean he is God.

So in conclusion;
1: the Bible teaches that the Godhead is one in nature.

Can't be surported with the bible.

2: the Bible teaches that God the Father is one personality of the Godhead.
3: the Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is one personality of the Godhead.
4: the Bible teaches that Jesus the Son is one personality of the Godhead.

No scripture to surpport these statements.

Conclusion: Therefore, God is composed of three personalities in one nature.

Another statement that does not have scripture to surpport it.

Have you ever seen a demon being cast out from a man ? Prior to his deliverance , you will notice, the victim will be speaking with a different voice, after he was heal, he will deny it, because the demon and the man are distinct from each other.

The above example is how God the son incarnate in Jesus.

So jesus is possessed by god the son.
The scripture says "the word became flesh not possessed flesh.

malvisguy212:
Have you ever seen a demon being cast out from a man ?
Prior to his deliverance, you will notice, the victim will be speaking with a different voice,
after he was heal, he will deny it, because the demon and the man are distinct from each other.

The above example is how God the son incarnate in Jesus

dolphinheart:
So jesus is possessed by god the son.
The scripture says "the word became flesh'' not possessed flesh

''became flesh'' is what incarnate is about

malvisguy212 is tying self up in knots trying to explain this thing
and you dolphinheart are helping him misusing possession for incarnation (i.e. embodiment)
by suggesting he is implying that ''Jesus is possessed by God the Son''
when what malvisguy212 actually wanted to explain with his example was God became flesh, God became human

With the exception of God, spirits, whether good or evil ones (e.g. demons, satan angels, other celestial being),
cannot or do not become flesh (i.e. incarnation)

malvisguy212 and dolphinheart, give a honest reply to these 2 below:
Is it possible or impossible for God to be in two places at the same time?
Is it possible or impossible for God to be simultaneously and concurrently in heaven Spirit mode by default and on earth in the flesh?

Richirich713:


Did Nothing created everything?

DAMN !!!!!!!!!

dolphinheart:

This belief is not in the scriptures, it is man made.


The word "god the son cannot be found in the scripture"


The use of the words "god the son" and "incarnate" are words created to confuse people.


These statement are also not found in the scriptures.
Discerning as a dove does not mean he is God.


Can't be surported with the bible.


No scripture to surpport these statements.


Another statement that does not have scripture to surpport it.


So jesus is possessed by god the son.
The scripture says "the word became flesh not possessed flesh.

1. Jesus’s humanity is displayed in the fact that he was born as a baby from a
human mother (Luke 2:7)
Jesus is fully God,Jesus is God, but he is
not the Father or the Holy Spirit. Jesus is
God the Son.
2. You said" God the son is not in the bible ? Wrong. John 1:14, says “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.”

In context, the Word is God the Son and the word was beggoten from the father.
3. Yes, the holy spirit is God , the holy spirit, he alone know the depth of God;
1 Corinthians 2:10–11
10 For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.
11 For who among men knows the
thoughts of a man except the spirit of
the man which is in him? Even so the
thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God.
And also Read Acts 5:1-6. According to verse 3, who did Ananias lie to ? HOLY SPIRIT Then in verse 4, who is Ananias accused of lying to? GOD
4. According to Matthew 28:19, the
disciples must baptize in what name?
FATHER,SON and the HOLY SPIRIT. The verse say NAME (singularity) and mention 3 personalities (father, son and holy spirit) which is the Godhead.
In isaiah

MuttleyLaff:


''became flesh'' is what incarnate is about

malvisguy212 is tying self up in knots trying to explain this thing
and you dolphinheart are helping him misusing possession for incarnation (i.e. embodiment)
by suggesting he is implying that ''Jesus is possessed by God the Son''
when what malvisguy212 actually wanted to explain with his example was God became flesh, God became human

With the exception of God, spirits, whether good or evil ones (e.g. demons, satan angels, other celestial being),
cannot or do not become flesh (i.e. incarnation)

malvisguy212 and dolphinheart, give a honest reply to these 2 below:
Is it possible or impossible for God to be in two places at the same time?
Is it possible or impossible for God to be simultaneously and concurrently in heaven Spirit mode by default and on earth in the flesh?

Weldon bro, long time.

dolphinheart:


Image!, representation!

Jesus Christ is the image of God, the fullness of the Godhead expressed bodily. Jesus Christ is the full representation of God.

Collosians 2:9
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

If the fullness of the Godhead dwells in Jesus Christ bodily, it means that Jesus Christ is God bodily, the full express image of the eternally invisible God expressed bodily.

MuttleyLaff:


''became flesh'' is what incarnate is about

malvisguy212 is tying self up in knots trying to explain this thing
and you dolphinheart are helping him misusing possession for incarnation (i.e. embodiment)
by suggesting he is implying that ''Jesus is possessed by God the Son''
when what malvisguy212 actually wanted to explain with his example was God became flesh, God became human

With the exception of God, spirits, whether good or evil ones (e.g. demons, satan angels, other celestial being),
cannot or do not become flesh (i.e. incarnation)

malvisguy212 and dolphinheart, give a honest reply to these 2 below:
Is it possible or impossible for God to be in two places at the same time?
Is it possible or impossible for God to be simultaneously and concurrently in heaven Spirit mode by default and on earth in the flesh?

I dnt know about him tying himself up in a knot, it remains for him to give further explanations on his post with scriptural backing for us to see if he is right or wrong.

I wunt comment on what you said he is trying to say, ill wait for him to give his own explanation.

To ur first question: I do not know all that God can or cannot do or rather will or will not do, therefore I cannot say if its possible or impossible for God to be present at two places at same time. Moreover I'm not an expert on time and dnt know how God views time. But this is what I know from the scriptures

1 ki 8:49 :
then hear from the heavens, your dwelling place, their prayer and their request for favor, and execute judgment for them

John 16:28
I came as the Father’s representative and have come into the world. Now I am leaving the world and am going to the Father.”

Heb 9:24
For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with hands, which is a copy of the reality, but into heaven itself, so that he now appears before God on our behalf.

The scriptures has been consistent about the location of God and has never mentioned him dwelling in two places at same time.

The second question is dependent on which God you are refering to.
But there has been no mention of jesus who was made flesh still residing in heaven or as a spirit creature while he was on earth. He was always making reference to his leaving, coming from, going back, going to heaven.

I await to hear malvisguy212 answer.