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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ewosk: 2:36pm On Jan 13, 2016
HOW MUCH IS A BUNDLE OF LONG SPAN ALUMINUM ROOFING SHEET



NEED ABOUT 16 BUNDLES URGENTLY FOR A PROJECT AROUND ELEBU AXIS IBADAN

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Excuzeme: 3:09pm On Jan 13, 2016
Chekitaut:
2ways you can use 5/8(3/4Down) all through, also you can use both 3/4 and 5/8(3/4Down) 5/8 for the beams and 3/4 for the slab(require vibrating for compact).

This answers your question.

Are you saying 1/2" (half) cannot be used for Decking?

I have seen it used wella-wella Sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by skimanski(m): 3:56pm On Jan 13, 2016
mavverick:


Oga Chekitaut

Thanks for educating us, which one is the DABO method, is that the one whereby they just pour mortar on the wall and then start to use trowel to smoothen it ?

How do you also know if a plastering achieved 100% ?

Thanks.

Oga chekitaut, are you telling him not to use guage for his plastering? It's better to use guage than not to use guage. Nothing is 100% in a human job. But it's closer to excellence than not using guage.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 9:37pm On Jan 13, 2016
skimanski:


Oga chekitaut, are you telling him not to use guage for his plastering? It's better to use guage than not to use guage. Nothing is 100% in a human job. But it's closer to excellence than not using guage.
Let him use it it will guide him during the process of plastering.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 9:47pm On Jan 13, 2016
Excuzeme:


Are you saying 1/2" (half) cannot be used for Decking?

I have seen it used wella-wella Sir.
I have not said that, 1/2 can be use, even as aggregate for beam, Columns. It is recon with when you have 3 or 4 bar at the top where 5/8 or 3/4 can not penetrate.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smiley001(m): 10:25pm On Jan 13, 2016
Excuzeme:


Are you saying 1/2" (half) cannot be used for Decking?

I have seen it used wella-wella Sir.


1/2 inch can be used for decking infact, from my own personal point of view, it's better but anywhere you use 1/2 inch instead of 5/8, be prepared to use more of other materials like cement, sharp sand, stone dust, water etc. This is the reason why most ppl do not use 1/2 inch when u av 5/8, it's not economically advisable. If u use 1/2 inch for ur columns and beams, the difference before plastering is very very clear.


However, there r some parts of construction that 1/2 inch or Rice Granite must be used. If you are building a structure(slab or concrete surface) purposely for retention of water, 1/2 inch or Rice is the best to use just because if properly mixed, it has lower percentage porosity compared to 5/8, 7/8, 1 inch etc.

Examples: Dams, irrigation storage, fish ponds, swimming pools, drainage.

It will spread and cover some areas 7/8 won't reach.

But all in all, 5/8(3/4 down) is the hottest cake of Granite.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Xzevian(m): 11:18pm On Jan 13, 2016
1/2inch can be used for decking, the only reason why some pple don't use it for decking is that it will consume more cement and other materials than 3/4down but it will produce a good solid concrete more than 3/4down because of it thinness but the only thing that restrict most pple frm using half inch is that there is only a few quarry that produce the accurate sized half inch.... what most supplier supply as half inch is not up to sized one but a little bigger than rice ...... I think is the best if you can get the best size of it
Excuzeme:


Are you saying 1/2" (half) cannot be used for Decking?

I have seen it used wella-wella Sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:21pm On Jan 13, 2016
Xzevian:
1/2inch can be used for decking, the only reason why some pple don't use it for decking is that it will consume more cement and other materials than 3/4down but it will produce a good solid concrete more than 3/4down because of it thinness but the only thing that restrict most pple frm using half inch is that there is only a few quarry that produce the accurate sized half inch.... what most supplier supply as half inch is not up to sized one but a little bigger than rice ...... I think is the best if you can get the best size of it

El Heffe,

So I want to cast a smooth German floor and pillar. I already know that I should use stone dust but what about granite? Which one should I use?

You should just offer me a deal that I can't refuse on both grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 11:47pm On Jan 13, 2016
EgunMogaji:


El Heffe,

So I want to cast a smooth German floor and pillar. I already know that I should use stone dust but what about granite? Which one should I use?

You should just offer me a deal that I can't refuse on both grin


I like 3/4 down for pillars, concrete walls and concrete floor. 3/4 down produces the best finish. The difference is clear.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Xzevian(m): 12:22am On Jan 14, 2016
I will advice you use sized 1/2inch for your pillars and 3/4 Granite for the german floor bUT all the same 3/4down can also fit for both.... it all depends on your choice sir.
EgunMogaji:

El Heffe,
So I want to cast a smooth German floor and pillar. I already know that I should use stone dust but what about granite? Which one should I use?
You should just offer me a deal that I can't refuse on both grin
FastShipping:

I like 3/4 down for pillars, concrete walls and concrete floor. 3/4 down produces the best finish. The difference is clear.
you are on point sir. how is your project going?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amanikondo: 1:13am On Jan 14, 2016
mavverick:


Bros,

I have just decided that no MORE NL people ever again.

* Most of them are unqualified, just because you see someone giving tips or pretty pictures or like our master packager who even had the cheek to take photos from another persons site and claimed he did the work. etc doesn't make them suitable to call themselves engineer.

* If I was an engineer that studied for it, I would be very angry as to how a lot of people here on NL especially have come to drag the profession on the floor like a Mop.

* I even engaged one so called engineer here on NL that was no more than a teenager with a keyboard and a phone, I shook my head in pity.

* Before engaging anyone, best to speak to someone like Haji or lawyer who is the moderator and do some research.

* A lot of so called Builders/Engineers on NL are quacks who know that most people that come here on NL especially for building are mostly people in diaspora, an average Nigerian wouldn't come online to start looking for builders or see some pretty pictures and engage a builder on that basis, its a face to face thing (usually you see someone that has done a good job in your area and you enquire about who did it or based on some other recommendation), forget internet. No wonder why one builder here was envious of people in Diaspora as dollar dey rise !! grin

* Lastly, Shine your eyes and ask a lot of questions.

Have a fruitful 2016 and happy new year in advance.

You wicked grin grin grin grin grin grin grin. Just read this. Lol @ "Master Packager" . He can sell fufu as donut.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 2:06am On Jan 14, 2016
FastShipping:



I like 3/4 down for pillars, concrete walls and concrete floor. 3/4 down produces the best finish. The difference is clear.
I happen to mix both for my german floor.I still have shyte loads if that 1/2 so I'm using that for all exposed beams and frames.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:20am On Jan 14, 2016
erico2k2:

I happen to mix both for my german floor.I still have shyte loads if that 1/2 so I'm using that for all exposed beams and frames.

I like that yellowish sand, it's what I want for my courtyard as a base.

Can I get this near Ibadan?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3292248_20151214131604_jpeg8034664002609e538aa11133c74a593f
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Xzevian(m): 7:47am On Jan 14, 2016
This yellowish sand can only found on kaolin land and not ordinary land.
EgunMogaji:


I like that yellowish sand, it's what I want for my courtyard as a base.

Can I get this near Ibadan?

www.nairaland.com/attachments/3292248_20151214131604_jpeg8034664002609e538aa11133c74a593f
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smiley001(m): 8:48am On Jan 14, 2016
Sand for Concreting and Casting isn't by the colour but by its Sharpness. I'm not against dis yellow colour sand, it maybe Hydrous Aluminium Silicate sand(kaolinite) and if it is, it's not used for casting but for Paper companies, for Paints making as well as fertiliser. Some Paints manufacturing companies in Ogun State collect it from Suppliers, there is a reasonable deposit at a location in Ogun State.


If the purpose is to use it with granite then it must be sharp, if it is sharp no worries but if otherwise... i advise you get a sharp sand irrespective of the colour and should be salt - free.


But one cannot judge the sand from just pictures but by seeing it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 8:50am On Jan 14, 2016
@Smiley001, thanks for the lecture on Sand 101.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:01am On Jan 14, 2016
Brabus I no fi laugh abeg, (sand 101)Oya smiley..give us course outline..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chidexxy007(m): 1:21pm On Jan 14, 2016
brabus:
@Smiley001, thanks for the lecture on Sand 101.
lol, no b small sand 101..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:24pm On Jan 14, 2016
Xzevian:
This yellowish sand can only found on kaolin land and not ordinary land.

So I'm assuming that I can't get it in Ibadan?

Not sure what kaolin means.

I'll need 40 tons.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 1:28pm On Jan 14, 2016
chidexxy007:

lol, no b small sand 101..

When someone deserves accolade, we don't have to deny him.

I've given a supplier a car before because he impressed me.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chidexxy007(m): 1:52pm On Jan 14, 2016
brabus:

When someone deserves accolade, we don't have to deny him.
I've given a supplier a car before because he impressed me.
Yea... twas a nice sand lecture though.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Xzevian(m): 1:55pm On Jan 14, 2016
EgunMogaji:


So I'm assuming that I can't get it in Ibadan?

Not sure what kaolin means.

I'll need 40 tons.
you may be luck to get it. kaolin is a yellowish clay extract frm the ground. it is use for making tiles......
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 1:59pm On Jan 14, 2016
Xzevian:
you may be luck to get it. kaolin is a yellowish clay extract frm the ground. it is use for making tiles......

Okay I'll make inquiries now that I know what it is.

It's exactly what I'm looking for. Color is perfect.

Thanks.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Xzevian(m): 2:01pm On Jan 14, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Okay I'll make inquiries now that I know what it is.

It's exactly what I'm looking for. Color is perfect.

Thanks.
you are always welcome sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 2:05pm On Jan 14, 2016
Xzevian:
you are always welcome sir

You promised me free stone dust if I ask you to supply me 30 tons 3/4 down.

Below are what I got today delivered to my site as 30 ton granite and 30 ton stone dust. I know they are not more than 20 ton each.

Go ahead and deliver yours to same site. I don't really need that much but I just want to proof a point.

Make sure you deliver early tomorrow morning.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 5:25pm On Jan 14, 2016
Guys

Some other questions that I have, how does Pop work on a suspended ceiling. How does it hold onto the noggings etc.
Also with pop, is the better to cost per sqm or agree one price ?
Lastly with pop, I know that the person doing it can provide a price for materials & labour or just for labour, which is better cost/quality wise ?
Most of the materials they use cannot be used elsewhere for example, its not like cement that if bricklayer doesn't use it, it will be useful for tiler.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 9:10pm On Jan 14, 2016
smiley001:
Sand for Concreting and Casting isn't by the colour but by its Sharpness. I'm not against dis yellow colour sand, it maybe Hydrous Aluminium Silicate sand(kaolinite) and if it is, it's not used for casting but for Paper companies, for Paints making as well as fertiliser. Some Paints manufacturing companies in Ogun State collect it from Suppliers, there is a reasonable deposit at a location in Ogun State.


If the purpose is to use it with granite then it must be sharp, if it is sharp no worries but if otherwise... i advise you get a sharp sand irrespective of the colour and should be salt - free.


But one cannot judge the sand from just pictures but by seeing it.

Colored sand indicate the presence of impurities like clay, dirt, chemical contamination etc. These are undesirable properties of fine aggregates as specified in codes of practice.

It is basically specify to use clay free sharp sand for any format of construction. The clay content can however be reduced by watching sand meant for construction after purity test has been conducted on it
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:52pm On Jan 14, 2016
abdulwastecx:


Colored sand indicate the presence of impurities like clay, dirt, chemical contamination etc. These are undesirable properties of fine aggregates as specified in codes of practice.

It is basically specify to use clay free sharp sand for any format of construction. The clay content can however be reduced by watching sand meant for construction after purity test has been conducted on it

Do you know if I can get this colored sand in Ibadan?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 2:29am On Jan 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Do you know if I can get this colored sand in Ibadan?

I am not conversant with ibadan
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:55am On Jan 15, 2016
abdulwastecx:


I am not conversant with ibadan

We need to change that one day grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:50am On Jan 15, 2016
FastShipping:

You promised me free stone dust if I ask you to supply me 30 tons 3/4 down.
Below are what I got today delivered to my site as 30 ton granite and 30 ton stone dust. I know they are not more than 20 ton each.
Go ahead and deliver yours to same site. I don't really need that much but I just want to proof a point.
Make sure you deliver early tomorrow morning.

No way this could be 30 tons. How? Granite don't shrink o.

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:56am On Jan 15, 2016
Where is KolaShangOne?

New Year don reach now grin

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