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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 7:54am On Jan 22, 2016
tevanso:
I stay in lagos / ibadan; I don't mind relocating to any part of the country .u can reach me with 08060506857

Tevanso, if I'm to mark your first test. I'll score you 2/10.

What an epic response to the opportunity before you! You can as well say I reside in Nigeria.

Change your tack. Hold yourself in high esteem, Seize the Opportunity and Share your CV. It costs you nothing.

You can never tell!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:03am On Jan 22, 2016
tevanso:
I stay in lagos / ibadan; I don't mind relocating to any part of the country .u can reach me with 08060506857

funny..you are looking for job... and you are asking your prospective employer to call

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 9:46am On Jan 22, 2016
brabus:


Tevanso, if I'm to mark your first test. I'll score you 2/10.

What an epic response to the opportunity before you! You can as well say I reside in Nigeria.

Change your tack. Hold yourself in high esteem, Seize the Opportunity and Share your CV. It costs you nothing.

You can never tell!

twinskenny:


funny..you are looking for job... and you are asking your prospective employer to call

This shows that the guy is not a serious person. Here is somebody who is out of work and complaining of inability to feed his family getting a response from one of the top builders here who has showcased his projects with addresses and he is telling the person to call him. If iam Segcymoor, he has already failed a simple test and will not employ such a person because he will bring such a lazy attitude into the work.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 10:17am On Jan 22, 2016
NL1960:


This shows that the guy is not a serious person. Here is somebody who is out of work and complaining of inability to feed his family getting a response from one of the top builders here who has showcased his projects with addresses and he is telling the person to call him. If iam Segcymoor, he has already failed a simple test and will not employ such a person because he will bring such a lazy attitude into the work.


Oga segcymoor, pls do a make-up test for our guy. At times, we get too anxious and forget ourselves in the line.

Baba NL1960, abeg on my guy's behalf o.

@Tevanso, NL no be Federal Civil Service Commission o. For here, na everybody be the HR.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 10:18am On Jan 22, 2016
EgunMogaji:
Here's an example of pressure treated wood that can be used for direct ground contact. Meaning it can co habitat with moisture and insects. Now that being said, one should always direct water away from the structure and also take secondary steps to spray for insects. For example there are solutions that will directly inject the soil around the perimeter of the house to deter termites and also another system that will spray insecticide directly inside the wall structure.

I plan on building my future Mai Guard house out of wood but on top of a poured concrete slab (American style, no concrete block). I think it's a perfect opportunity to finally put this allegation that Nigeria is not fit for wood structure to test.

Egun

I agree that wood is underused in Nigeria, but could it also be something to do with the climate, in places like UAE as well, i rarely saw wood used in construction, in fact their mode of construction is very similar to that of Nigeria, i.e foundation style etc, most of the time they use Pile as the terrain is sandy desert (loose soil that can move).

One of the reasons why wood may be under used is the treatment aspect, when i was doing my roofing, they had to get some chemical mixture and used that to cover the wood using a brush or broom or whatever, whereas in western countries all you need to do is go into a hardware store, tell them you want treated wood and not soft/white wood and you can use that externally. It can last for hundred of years and nothing will happen to it, as long as its free from damp which can sometimes cause insects to bore into it.

As you know, most houses the flooring is suspended wooden flooring and in the UK, concrete floored houses are frowned upon and they are often hard to finance with a mortgage, and in fact self they are a bit harder to sell. Its the opposite in Nija, the first thing you will hear is that thief can cut through the floor and enter upstairs. Abi Brabus fit use angle grinder cut am steal cement & iron rod lol..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 11:29am On Jan 22, 2016
NL1960:




This shows that the guy is not a serious person. Here is somebody who is out of work and complaining of inability to feed his family getting a response from one of the top builders here who has showcased his projects with addresses and he is telling the person to call him. If iam Segcymoor, he has already failed a simple test and will not employ such a person because he will bring such a lazy attitude into the work.





thanks sir for your concern ,i believe nobody is an ireland of knowledge.I stand to be corrected
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:31am On Jan 22, 2016
mavverick:


Egun

I agree that wood is underused in Nigeria, but could it also be something to do with the climate, in places like UAE as well, i rarely saw wood used in construction, in fact their mode of construction is very similar to that of Nigeria, i.e foundation style etc, most of the time they use Pile as the terrain is sandy desert (loose soil that can move).

One of the reasons why wood may be under used is the treatment aspect, when i was doing my roofing, they had to get some chemical mixture and used that to cover the wood using a brush or broom or whatever, whereas in western countries all you need to do is go into a hardware store, tell them you want treated wood and not soft/white wood and you can use that externally. It can last for hundred of years and nothing will happen to it, as long as its free from damp which can sometimes cause insects to bore into it.

As you know, most houses the flooring is suspended wooden flooring and in the UK, concrete floored houses are frowned upon and they are often hard to finance with a mortgage, and in fact self they are a bit harder to sell. Its the opposite in Nija, the first thing you will hear is that thief can cut through the floor and enter upstairs. Abi Brabus fit use angle grinder cut am steal cement & iron rod lol..





The problem with timber construction in nigeria are enormous.
It includes
1.non availability of building codes on structural use of timbers
2. Poor technology and lack of adequate power to seasoned and cut wood into various dimensions
3. Decline of our forest reserve and so many other factors.

The use of our timber as a partition material may be more expensive than conventional masonry work but when use as suspended floors it is much cheaper than reinforced floors
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lhanraya2w(m): 11:59am On Jan 22, 2016
tevanso:
thanks sir for your concern ,i believe nobody is an ireland of knowledge.I stand to be corrected
cheesy Ma Niccur. Of course no one is a 'Wales' of knowledge. You don't need a job man, what you need is Help!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:09pm On Jan 22, 2016
Wood Structures. More pics shortly

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 12:17pm On Jan 22, 2016
brabus:
Wood Structures. More pics shortly

Fresh man...
Solid and beautiful structure
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 12:19pm On Jan 22, 2016
brabus:
Wood Structures. More pics shortly

Their is this foundation solution I want to discuss with you.. ..
Waffle foundation type use on a loose soil, similar to raft foundation.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 12:22pm On Jan 22, 2016
brabus:
Wood Structures. More pics shortly

Their is this foundation solution I want to discuss with you.. ..
Waffle foundation type use on a loose soil, similar to raft foundation.
It is more cost effective and can stay well on loose soil.
Volume of concrete is reduced, foundation is monotically cast, no need for sand filling and reduced Formwork since only the exterior perimeter will be board
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:26pm On Jan 22, 2016
abdulwastecx:


Fresh man...
Solid and beautiful structure

There are complex application of woods. I'll post more pics later.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:42pm On Jan 22, 2016
mavverick:


Egun

I agree that wood is underused in Nigeria, but could it also be something to do with the climate, in places like UAE as well, i rarely saw wood used in construction, in fact their mode of construction is very similar to that of Nigeria, i.e foundation style etc, most of the time they use Pile as the terrain is sandy desert (loose soil that can move).

One of the reasons why wood may be under used is the treatment aspect, when i was doing my roofing, they had to get some chemical mixture and used that to cover the wood using a brush or broom or whatever, whereas in western countries all you need to do is go into a hardware store, tell them you want treated wood and not soft/white wood and you can use that externally. It can last for hundred of years and nothing will happen to it, as long as its free from damp which can sometimes cause insects to bore into it.

As you know, most houses the flooring is suspended wooden flooring and in the UK, concrete floored houses are frowned upon and they are often hard to finance with a mortgage, and in fact self they are a bit harder to sell. Its the opposite in Nija, the first thing you will hear is that thief can cut through the floor and enter upstairs. Abi Brabus fit use angle grinder cut am steal cement & iron rod lol..


I don't believe that Nigerias weather is any different from parts of USA such as Texas and Florida.

I'll put this to test once and for all.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:42pm On Jan 22, 2016
abdulwastecx:


Their is this foundation solution I want to discuss with you.. ..
Waffle foundation type use on a loose soil, similar to raft foundation.
It is more cost effective and can stay well on loose soil.
Volume of concrete is reduced, foundation is monotically cast, no need for sand filling and reduced Formwork since only the exterior perimeter will be board

Tell me more. I'm building 30 units of that building where I took that pics for a Nairalander this year. The terrain is loose soil.

I'll be roofing the first prototype in few days. So, tell me something I'd love to hear.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 12:45pm On Jan 22, 2016
brabus:


There are complex application of woods. I'll post more pics later.

Maybe you didnt read very well, obviously your mind is on what to pack inside that ford white van (:-) and cart away.

In one of the pictures you have shown whilst its that of wood used externally, the fabric of the roof still shields it away from the elements to some extent. I think what would be nice to see is houses where the external facade is actually wood.

In North America and some places in Europe, what they sometimes do is use treated wood facade/cladding, 100mm or thicker insulation (Celotex) that's what its called in Europe not sure about USA, then plasterboard and you skim with multifinish (plaster). That's your wall, so it meets insulation building regs (building regulations) and it well insulated, even better (insulation wise) than un-insulated brick walls self which is 210mm solid brick wall. I am guessing in Nigeria, its the opposite you wouldn't want heat trapped inside the house, but need more ventilation.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:46pm On Jan 22, 2016
brabus:
Wood Structures. More pics shortly

Stop it already.

We're talking about building a house out of wood and you're showing patio covers, etc

But thanks for making my point for me though. No one uses wood to build houses in Nigeria.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 1:35pm On Jan 22, 2016
brabus:


Tell me more. I'm building 30 units of that building where I took that pics for a Nairalander this year. The terrain is loose soil.

I'll be roofing the first prototype in few days. So, tell me something I'd love to hear.

I will highlight it this way.
1. A structural design will explain carried out to determined the size of beams, rib beam and waffle size.
2. Using a waffle size of 600 mm x 600 mm and rib beam of 150 mm by 300mm and a topping of 75mm.
3. The edge beams and beams along column areas are designed and reinforced like continuous beam upside down.
4. The real beam are also designed this way.

Advantages includes
1. Speed of construction is fast. All the rib can be lay out within a day, perimeter Formwork done within another day, reinforcement work is faster and smaller.

2. It cut cost of Formwork of say raft foundation because you only need to do perimeter Formwork.

3. It cut cost of excavation since you only need to cut out top soil and foundation founded on sub grade.

4. It cut out cost of filling of foundation and the logistics involved in filling.

5. Volume of concrete is greatly reduced compare to raft foundation.

6.settlement is is uniform since it is monotically constructed unlike some of our raft foundation here.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 1:39pm On Jan 22, 2016
brabus:


Tell me more. I'm building 30 units of that building where I took that pics for a Nairalander this year. The terrain is loose soil.

I'll be roofing the first prototype in few days. So, tell me something I'd love to hear.

Send me one unit of those building and the soil text so I can do a prototype design and possibly a detail cost break down
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 1:42pm On Jan 22, 2016
abdulwastecx:


Send me one unit of those building and the soil text so I can do a prototype design and possibly a detail cost break down

Add me on whatsapp +2348023429122. There's a suspended slab that I will be doing in few weeks. I'm planning to use anything but concrete for the slab. It'll be concealed in the attic cos the estate does not approve 3 floors.

Let's talk about this also.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 2:19pm On Jan 22, 2016
brabus:


Oga segcymoor, pls do a make-up test for our guy. At times, we get too anxious and forget ourselves in the line.

Baba NL1960, abeg on my guy's behalf o.

@Tevanso, NL no be Federal Civil Service Commission o. For here, na everybody be the HR.
Thanks
I just wanted to know if he's somebody reside within the vicinity before wasting effort


---------
He has called anyway

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:21pm On Jan 22, 2016
Oga Brabus, this is building dwellings with wood

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:54pm On Jan 22, 2016
Shyte literally needs to flow uphill.

To my septic tank that is grin

I want to try not to have to sink new tanks but my existing tank is uphill from the new building.

So I'm thinking of a scheme where I create a sub tank down below that I then pump the contents uphill to the main tank.

Any thoughts, ideas, rumors, innuendos, etc
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 9:34pm On Jan 22, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Says the fact that I've never seen anyone feature a wood built structure in this forum and that over time the subject comes up no one has said anything positive about it.

Everytime I bring it up I'm told that there is a specially made termite by Lucifer himself that carries away wood structures during the night cheesy
How many wooden structures have you constructed from this eloquent sources that you mentioned?

On your Hacienda, as a vocal builder on here, is there a single wooden structure on the premises? grin
That termite nah me talk am grin grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nabiz(m): 1:47am On Jan 23, 2016
3strike:
Anyone heard of concrete floor with stamping to look like interlocking?


So I was talking to couple of people about the different option of floor I can do for my compound instead of doing the interlocking stone. Someone mentioned concrete floor with stamping. he did say that its way cheaper than the interlocking stone and that the stamping will give it the interlocking look.


Can someone please advice.
sorry for coming in late. I once posted on this beautiful topic referred to me by Egunmogaji, when I told people to ask me any question on stamped concrete but packed out when know one responded, but I think am back again so u can ask me any question that concerns decorative stamped concrete. You can check out this link to see the pictures of my completed stamped concrete job https://www.nairaland.com/2278774/call-me-increte-decorative-stamped

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 2:21am On Jan 23, 2016
great
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nabiz(m): 2:48am On Jan 23, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I'll be doing concrete stamping inside and outside of my house. Interlocking is too problematic though it provides ability to repair subfloor.
...installing a decorative stamped concrete floor on your property is a good decision. But u have to be careful in other not to fall for cheap offer. Some people are using fake materials there by spoiling the reputable image of stamped concrete job in Nigeria. Some have gone to the extent of downloading and posting the pictures of another people job which I think is an act of pirating and is very bad and must be condemned in nairaland. If u must post a picture of another person's job, I thing u also should make it known to viewers.
Below are do and don't in stamped concrete.
(1)Use color hardener which is specially made fore stamped concrete alone, avoid the use of ordinary interlocking pigment which most nigerians use.

(2) Use imported acrylic sealer for polishing, avoid the one Aba sealer.

(3)Original release agent is the best, avoid the use of water sealant mixed with black cement.

(4)Choose the right aggregate and slab thickness. The standard thickness of a stamped concrete job should be at least 10 to 8cm for drive way. Pls don't go below that.

(5) Insist ur potential contractor must lay iron mesh or 8mm iron rod on the floor before pouring the mixed aggregate(concrete) and if u choose 8mm iron rod, it should be tied at most 1.5 square foot spaced.

(6) Reinforce and sub-grade properly.

(7)Don't ask for site sample alone because almost every body can offer a beautiful sample but will mess up the site when given the job., If u have time, tell ur potential contractor to take u to a site he has personally completed and when he take u to the site, ask people around the if the contractor actually did the job. I know what am talking about. Or if u don't have time, ask for a written quality assurance guarantee. Am not saying am saying am the best but will proudly say am among the few best. lol.

(coolExpansion joint is very important.

Choose an expert to reduce ur financial and time cost
of supervision.

Inspect the originality of materials once it's brought into ur site, and again make sure the contractor brought the material into ur site sealed.

Would have love to send the pictures of the original materials here but the network is very bad to upload the pic.

Click below to see the pictures of my completed jobhttp://www.nairaland.com/2278774/call-me-increte-decorative-stamped. Pls feel free to ask me any question.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nabiz(m): 3:09am On Jan 23, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Yeah even my counter tops in kitchen and bathrooms will be concrete.
ahh my oga u sabi better thing oo, it if called counter top
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nabiz(m): 3:15am On Jan 23, 2016
EgunMogaji:
Examples
grin
EgunMogaji:
Examples
. The indoor pics. U posted is called an acid staining
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:19am On Jan 23, 2016
My Oga Nabiz, this is a running soap opera of sorts.

You'll need to be a featured star and not just an occasional guest star grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nabiz(m): 3:36am On Jan 23, 2016
EgunMogaji:


E be as e get grin

I don't see how a well installed interlock like Spyder880 does on his projects can come in cheaper than stamped concrete.

What’s It Cost?

A stamped concrete patio costs $10-$15 per square foot, professionally installed.

Here’s a quick price comparison:
Plain concrete: $6-$12 per sq. ft.
Brick: $14-$20 per sq. ft.
Stone, slate, or marble: $17-$28 per sq. ft.
Concrete pavers: $13-$20 per sq. ft.

http://www.houselogic.com/home-advice/patios/stamped-concrete-patio/

Read more: http://www.houselogic.com/home-advice/patios/stamped-concrete-patio/#ixzz3niJUb7hg
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average cost of installing a stamped concrete floor depending on ur location is 7k which include d cost of labour and materials(foreign and local materials). Below are the name of the materials

FOREIGN MATERIAL:
(1)Original Color hardener
(2)Acrylic sealer
(3) Release agent
LOCAL MATERIAL:
(1)Brown Portland cement
(2)Granite stone
(3)Sand
(4)Iron rod or mesh
(5)Binding wire
(6)Iron bars
(7)Hydrochloric acid
(coolDiamond cutting disc/blade.

Feel free to chart me through whatsapp to see the pictures of some of the materials. Would have love to send them here but the network is bad
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by nabiz(m): 3:42am On Jan 23, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Maybe you can reach out to the editors of that magazine.

I am comfortable with up to 6" of flooring. So 4" of poured slab and then up to 2" of flooring is okay with me on my project.

For you maybe, but for me it'll be cheap to bring a USA artisan to Nigeria and family members have done it in the past so I speak from experience.

But it's relative and it depends on what one is expecting to pay for USA style level of finish quality.

PS: In my professional life I am paid well for tackling, resolving and excelling on impossible tasks. I use that training and knowledge to empower myself in my personal life and have managed to accomplish a lot where many have thought there was no way. So I am used to people saying something is impossible and typically take it as a challenge just to prove that it's possible.

The only thing impossible is nothing.
for residential building, 10 to 8cm is okay but must be properly reinforced

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