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Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 10:38pm On Jan 28, 2016 |
A female Islamic scholar from the prestigious Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt, Professor Suad Saleh on Monday announced that Muslim men are allowed by Allah to rape non Muslim or infidel women to "humiliate them during times of 'legitimate war' between Muslims and their enemies." The controversial Islamic scholar, who was speaking in an interview on Cairo television, further claimed that "Allah has given Muslim men a 'legitimate' way to have sexual relations with slave women. "Slavery already existed even before Islam; all Islam did was to regulate the practice." Saleh described slave women as those who have been captured as prisoners of war, adding that their Muslim captors have the right to own them. "In order to humiliate them, they become the property of the army commander, or of a Muslim, and he can have sex with them just like he has sex with his wives," Saleh said. Professor of History at Florida State College, Dr. Andrew Holt, expressed dismay at the Islamic scholar's alleged comments, saying that Saleh's statements could be viewed as the Muslim world's approval of the enslavement and rape of Yazidi women by ISIS fighters and officials. "I am surprised that such a detestable crime and human rights violation is sanctioned by a female professor from 'Sunni Islam's most prestigious university' which is more than 1,000 years old," Holt said. The anti-Islam Internet group Jihad Watch said Saleh's statements were based on the Quran. The group said the seizure of infidel girls and their use as sex slaves are all sanctioned in the Muslim holy book. Jihad Watch cited this Quranic verse as proof: "O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war." The Qur'an says that a man may have sex with his wives and also with his slave girls, the group says. It cited this particular verse in the Quran: "The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame." (Qur'an 23:1-6). In May 2011, the Egyptian Sheikh Abu-Ishaq al-Huwayni declared that "we are in the era of jihad," which means that Muslims could take slaves. "Jihad is only between Muslims and infidels. Spoils, slaves, and prisoners are only to be taken in war between Muslims and infidels. Muslims in the past conquered, invaded, and took over countries. This is agreed to by all scholars—there is no disagreement on this from any of them, from the smallest to the largest, on the issue of taking spoils and prisoners. Cc lalasticlala http://dailytimes.ng/rape-allowed-islam-times-legitimate-war-female-islamic-scholar/ |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by Nobody: 11:22pm On Jan 28, 2016 |
She is incorrect on many levels. Ra.ping of female slaves is forbidden in Islam. Let those who find not the wherewithal for marriage keep themselves chaste, until God gives them means out of His grace. And if any of your slaves ask for a deed in writing (to enable them to earn their freedom for a certain sum), give them such a deed if ye know any good in them: yea, give them something yourselves out of the means which God has given to you. But force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is God, Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to them), (The Noble Quran, 24:33)" 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by Weah96: 4:22am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Rape was acceptable everywhere in the old Testament. Yahweh encouraged the Jews to bang the virgins first, making sure that no little girl was spared. Read your Bible! 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 5:52am On Jan 29, 2016 |
hockeyoilers: Verses where rape is permitted in the Quran "The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame." (Qur'an 23:1-6). And those who guard their private parts, except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess-- for these surely are not to be blamed, Qur'an 70:29-30 Successful indeed are the believers, who are humble in their prayers and who keep aloof from what is vain and who are givers of poor-rate and who guard their private parts, except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blamable. Qur'an 23:1 Read Quran 4:24 where rape is permitted also and many other verses that support rape. 2 Likes |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by Slikbae: 7:21am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Zombie religion. Yes I always knew this, afterall Mohammed did it. But see how it backfires. What if the Americans decide to rape the female Syrian refugees? The Germans could also do that, but since Christians are sane person, we won't. 2 Likes |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by Oluwaseytiano(m): 7:52am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Religion is the opium of the masses |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by Annunaki(m): 8:08am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Tola9ja as a woman, how do you feel about being raped for for ever reason? 2 Likes |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 8:32am On Jan 29, 2016 |
seggzz: Recieve sense in the name of Allah... it's either you are illiterate or you lack knowledge, wisdom and common sense.... The hadith and Quran verse you quoted stood against everything related to rape or force marriage.... OLODO.. OPONU 3 Likes |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by chachanga: 10:09am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Moh'd was a confused rapist and pillage expert. History confirms that. But we all have our funny ways of interpreting history, don't we? 4 Likes |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by Annunaki(m): 10:32am On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007: Dunce and chronic pathological islamic liar. The quoran verses and quoted hadiths encouraged raping of sex slaves and mohammed himself raped sex slaves(sunnah) no matter the amount of lies and curses you write will change these facts. That you are denying the obvious is enough evidence we need to know that deep down inside you, you are ashamed of your sex maniac of a paedophile prophet. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by malvisguy212: 11:17am On Jan 29, 2016 |
hockeyoilers:Surah 23:1-6: The believers must eventually win through…Who abstain from sex, Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, OR THE CAPTIVES whom their right hands possess, – for in their case they are free from blame. (Yusuf Ali) In the clear teaching of this Qur’anic verse, Muslim men do not have to “restrain their carnal desires” with the women captives of war or the slave- girls in their possession and, of course, with their wives. They are free to satisfy their “carnal desires” with these women. Surah 33:50: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war.” (Pickthall) Just as it is lawful for Muhammad to engage in sexual intercourse with his legal wives, Allah has also made it lawful for Muhammad to engage in sexual intercourse with the women captives of war. Once again, it is stated in the above Qur’anic verse that it is Allah who provides these girls as gifts to his Prophet for sexual enjoyment. Muslims must ponder, why should Allah take such keen interest in the sexual indulgence of his Prophet? Islam teaches that Muhammad serves as a model for the Muslims to shape their life. So, what moral lesson is Allah teaching the Muslim community by his authorization of this depraved behavior for his Prophet? Is it not true that the only lesson that is taught here is RAPE ? |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 11:39am On Jan 29, 2016 |
Annunaki: #see# so clueless |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 12:23pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:You mean that Islamic female scholar is illiterate? You mean she lack knowledge, wisdom and common sense? If yes, you must be joking....... There many verses that support this ideology. If you want me to give you more Quran verses to keep your mouth shut, I will do so? First of all, have you read the first verse of the female scholar? Don't publicly display your ignorant. Most of you don't read the Quran. I was once a Muslim and Christian OK? I have verse knowledge of these two. 5 Likes |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 12:25pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Two categories of women have been excluded from the general command of guarding the private parts: (a) wives, (b) women who are legally in one’s possession, i.e. slave-girls. Thus the verse clearly lays down the law that one is allowed to have sexual relation with one’s slave-girl as with one’s wife, the basis being possession and not marriage. 1 Like |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 12:27pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
seggzz: your source |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 12:29pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
seggzz: laughing.... in Islam, we don't care who you are... if you are wrong, we will say it.. that so called scholar is wrong.. besides, if you even read the article with open mind, you will see that the surah and hadith she quoted stood against her point... |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 12:39pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007: "The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from SEX, EXCEPT with those joined to them in the MARRIAGE bond, or (the CAPTIVES ) WHOM THEIR RIGHT HANDS POSSESS, for (in their case) they are FREE from BLAME." (Qur'an 23:1-6). check the capitalized above And those who guard their private parts, except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess-- for these surely are not to be blamed, Quran 70:29-30 |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 12:55pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
seggzz: now.. before i cross check those Quran verses... cross check it first... if there's any changed word from the verse... I will invoke the wrath of Allah on you.. |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 1:00pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
hockeyoilers:From your quranic verse, it says that you shouldn't force maid to prostitution. You are the owner of the slave and shouldn't force the maid to prostitution but allowed rape by you if you own her. Please interpret this verse below for me. And those who guard their private parts, except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess-- for these surely are not to be blamed... |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 1:03pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
seggzz: I have cross checked it.. the first Quran verse you quoted is correct.. now onto the explanation rationally. The verses means cover Not your private part from whom you are legally married with.. and NOT from slaves or Captives that your RIGHT HAND possess.. you will see i capitalized the right hand... from your own understanding and educational background... what does right hand literary means?? Now contextually, what does right hand means in this verse? does that right hand has anything related to rape according to the context?... #am awaiting your answer# |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 1:08pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
seggzz: na so you people start calling Jesus son of god and god when he clearly never said it intentional mis-interpretation |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 1:11pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Check with unbiased mind and then come back |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by malvisguy212: 2:43pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:lol. Is this your best defence ? |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 2:49pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
malvisguy212: it's either you can't read or you are blind... av already refute this silly accusations on Islam.. read my latter post |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 2:59pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:You said what I quoted is right, Why change the statements? The verse means more than what you understand. Have you read Quran 70:29-30? |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 3:06pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
seggzz: laughing hysterically.... I have explained the verse.. and i want you to finish the explanation yourself... that's why I throw those questions to you... yet you said i haven't explained anything.. I rest my case |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 3:13pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007: The Quran in Sura 23:5-6 says: 5 [Most certainly true believers] . . . guard their PRIVATE PARTS scrupulously, 6 EXCEPT with regard to their WIVES and those who are LEGALLY in their POSSESSION , for in that case they shall not be blameworthy . The above means; Two categories of women have been excluded from the general command of guarding the private parts: (a) wives, (b) women who are legally in one’s possession, i.e. slave-girls. Thus the verse clearly lays down the law that one is allowed to have sexual relation with one’s slave-girl as with one’s wife, the basis being possession and not marriage. Note, rape and prostitution are not the same here. Can you also check the above verse also to check? You know you checked the first verse but decided to change the words yourself. Also check this one. 4 Likes |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 3:26pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Is this just your explanation for all the Qur'an verses? Laughing in swahili. You need to study and think logically. You have been blinded and indoctrinated with religious fallacies. Read carefully, I have answered your questions. Since you have agreed my Quran verses are correct then swerve!!! Why decorating lies 1 Like |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by seggzz(m): 3:28pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:Who told you I'm a Christian? |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by malvisguy212: 3:34pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
DeathStroke007:trash as usual. Surah 23:1-6 The believers must eventually win through…Who abstain from sex, Except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, OR THE CAPTIVE WOMEN WHOM THEIR RIGHT HAND POSSESS , – for in their case they are free from blame. (Yusuf Ali) The believers are free to have satisfied their canal desire on the captive women, it is no sin to them according to muhammed."they are free from blame" Sura 4:24 And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. (Pickthall) This means that while a Muslim man is prohibited from engaging in sex with a married woman, there is an exception to this rule if the married woman happens to fall into his hands as a captive of war. As stated earlier, Surah 4:24 permits Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with married women who became slaves through capture. We will now look at the circumstances under which Surah 4:24 was revealed. The following Hadiths will aid us to identify the circumstances that led to the revelation of Surah 4:24. Sahih Muslim, Book 8, Number 3432: Abu Sa’idal-Khudri (Allah be pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hunain, Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that: “And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (Qur’an 4:24)” Surah 4:24 was revealed in a specific context when Muslim fighters got female captives whose husbands were still alive. And some of the holy warriors had been a little hesitant to have intercourse with the captive women in the presence of their husbands. Therefore, they consulted their supreme leader.Muhammad realised that if Allah did not include married women in his authorization to rape captives, then the motivation of his holy warriors to fight the next jihad will soon diminish. He immediately sought Allah’s intervention and right away, Allah revealed Surah 4:24 to sanction both rape and adultery. |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 5:20pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
malvisguy212: YOUR LOSS.. YOU THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND PLAIN WORD SAID BY JESUS THAT I WILL BE ARGUING WITH.. NEVER THE LESS, I HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS.. SEEMS MY ANSWERS HIT YOUR SOFT POINT. I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU RANTING... PAINED.. ANY SINGLE RUBBISH YOU POST ABOUT ISLAM, I WILL ALWAYS DISMANTLE IT |
Re: Rape is allowed in Islam during times of ‘legitimate war’ by DeathStroke007(m): 5:21pm On Jan 29, 2016 |
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