AVRecruit:


LordReed i skimmed through the conversation so pardon my omissions. The truth he is trying to convey is that the net benefits of modern marriage is either netral or negative for majority cases. When you get married you marry nagging, the lieing/unpredictable/illogical nature of women (i except mothers and pastors from this generalization), the risk of incuring a divorce as a result of this, most women today prioritize career over motherhood....this leads to men marrying older women but then cheating with mistresses.

the above pointed out phenomena are a trend in modern day. so highlight the logical benefits of marriage aside having children?

Lemme try to be clear to you too. I am not here to defend marriage. What I am about here is do not give a dog a bad name so you can hang it. You think marriage is net neutral or net negative, that is great, hold on to that thought but that marriage will hinder you from success is at best a subjective experience (but I personally think it's a stupid argument) with many other contraindications. So go ahead and don't get married, it's all up to you.

LordReed:


Lemme try to be clear to you too. I am not here to defend marriage. What I am about here is do not give a dog a bad name so you can hang it. You think marriage is net neutral or net negative, that is great, hold on to that thought but that marriage will hinder you from success is at best a subjective experience (but I personally think it's a stupid argument) with many other contraindications. So go ahead and don't get married, it's all up to you.

well said LordReed. You are indeed a Lord his royal highness :-)

Anyway to stay within judeo christian bounds, i need marriage to have a good f**k. but i think il have to settle for gf and be married to her in my mind.

I am for marriage if it makes good business and spiritual sense - no single mother, good women, God fearing, supportive, not feminist, young and humble etc. If the opposite then its a bad investment.

slim49z:


I'm definitely going to look for that book and read it. If I don't see it in bookshops, then I'm gonna buy it online, even if it's 10k. I'd like to read a woman's perspective on this.

Lofuckingl... It is actually online for free.

MARRAIGE:- No matter what a man's job may be - bookkeper, doctor, bus driver, or managing director - every moment of his life will be spent as a cog in a huge and pitiless system - a system designed to exploit him to the utmost, to his dying day. "Ester Vilar"

LordReed:


Not a very good example. I know of no country where you legally get a job and will refuse your spouse entry. Heck even terrorists have used it as a means to get across borders.

Listen let's be honest there is no human relationship system that isn't froth with advantages and disadvantages. I get it, marriage to you is one big disadvantage. No problem, don't marry. But here is the rub no need to cook up the disadvantages that are frankly very subjective. Google "singles are more prone to suicide" so you know that what you are advocating isn't without its risks. But all of that is just words because each person must decide how their life will be lived. You want to be single, go ahead it's your life. Don't allow another person's experience be the sole determinant for what you are going to be and do.

Nonsense to the bolded. Another person's experience? Lemme tell you, I have been in relationships that's almost like marriage..yes..the only difference is that we didn't exchange the 'for better for worse' shit.

Allboiz:

Lofuckingl... It is actually online for free.

Already reading it.

slim49z:


Nonsense to the bolded. Another person's experience? Lemme tell you, I have been in relationships that's almost like marriage..yes..the only difference is that we didn't exchange the 'for better for worse' shit.

Whatever dude.

AVRecruit:


well said LordReed. You are indeed a Lord his royal highness :-)

LoL

AVRecruit:



Anyway to stay within judeo christian bounds, i need marriage to have a good f**k. but i think il have to settle for gf and be married to her in my mind.

I once thought about doing this but the truth is we humans are treacherous. Without legal binds we'd be living in a world wide zoo and even with them we still manage to be shitty to one another.

Ruq:
Killjoy if you do eventually have a child or children how do you suppose they be raised?

if.... they will raised to dwell on fact, not on some stupid traditional dogma. I will teach them to act and make decisions based on rational reasons not because the fucking world is doing it. kappish??

slim49z:


Way to solve this dilemma? Life is much more less complex and freer when you don't commit to a particular woman.

What drives me nuts is the African mentality that every man is supposed to get married.

I think the high time men starts making marriage decisions based on how they feel and not how the society feels, the better for everybody.

exactly the point I have been trying so hard to drive into the skull of these niggers!


if they decide to get married because it's a rule, a tradition, a necessity, then at this stage all I can offer them is my sincere sympathy.

LordReed:


For someone who feels marriage will not make him become rich, I can bet he feels double for children.

don't misquote me. besides marriage having a toll on your career, I said many other things. like it might crash with the same passion it started, we are too different to live together, love between a man and a woman is mere affectation. many many more reasons I gave. why tenaciously hold onto just one, matter of fact, the last one?




plus, I also stated that I have no grudges against having kids. but I will not purchase a whole pig for a sausage or two.

andromida:


I don't believe a woman should nag a man into marriage I prefer she looks for a man who is ready and glad to marry her. Getting married is actually taking on more responsibility because marriage means she can't just live for herself she has to look out for her husband and children as well.

When a woman is nagging a man to marry her I hope she is ready for the responsibility that comes with marriage.

quite the contrary, most of the time when a woman starts nagging to be married, it's either she's looking for a bigger yo dump her welfare on or she's scared her friends are getting married while she's about to hit menopause, or both. have you read the Cinderella complex? find it.

slim49z:


I'm definitely going to look for that book and read it. If I don't see it in bookshops, then I'm gonna buy it online, even if it's 10k. I'd like to read a woman's perspective on this.

you don't have to go far, you can download it. it's free online. get predatory female tooo

AVRecruit:


well said LordReed. You are indeed a Lord his royal highness :-)

Anyway to stay within judeo christian bounds, i need marriage to have a good f**k. but i think il have to settle for gf and be married to her in my mind.

I am for marriage if it makes good business and spiritual sense - no single mother, good women, God fearing, supportive, not feminist, young and humble etc. If the opposite then its a bad investment.

settle for a gf and get married to her in your mind.... lmao. killarious. but how will you know she is a good woman, God fearing, supportive, not feminist, young and humble etc if you don't marry her??

plus, it is rumored that some women change after marriage - physically, mentally, psychologically, etc. hmmmmm... may the odds be in your favour.

killjoy:

my view isn't biased but based on experience hence in touch with reality. if u don't believe single men hv as much fun as married men, tell me what they r missing.

the fact that you have experienced just the bad part of marriage doesn't mean there is no good side to it... there are two sides to every coin and if you had come up with the two sides, I would have taken your post more seriously. All I see is a child who has been badly affected by his parents separation, I do hope you heal though.

killjoy:



quite the contrary, most of the time when a woman starts nagging to be married, it's either she's looking for a bigger yo dump her welfare on or she's scared her friends are getting married while she's about to hit menopause, or both. have you read the Cinderella complex? find it.

I did a reply to this can't find it anyway I don't think there is anything wrong with a woman wanting a family before menopause marriage is a safe place to raise kids with a man who is committed to same cause then majorly a like-minded lifetime companion in your corner is something wonderful to experience I think. I don't see anything wrong with a man being responsible for his family's welfare.

And yes its true many women marry for the reasons you mentioned but like you their perception of life and marriage shaped their reasons.

smileysmiley:
the fact that you have experienced just the bad part of marriage doesn't mean there is no good side to it... there are two sides to every coin and if you had come up with the two sides, I would have taken your post more seriously. All I see is a child who has been badly affected by his parents separation, I do hope you heal though.

oh purrleeeasseeee..... don't come at me with this separation aftermath jorrr. do I look like a baby to cry when daddy and mummy are fighting? women experience the good side of marriage, men suffer the bad part. why do women go to lengths just to get married? what's in for them?

andromida:




I did a reply to this can't find it anyway I don't think there is anything wrong with a woman wanting a family before menopause marriage is a safe place to raise kids with a man who is committed to same cause then majorly a like-minded lifetime companion in your corner is something wonderful to experience I think. I don't see anything wrong with a man being responsible for his family's welfare.

And yes its true many women marry for the reasons you mentioned but like you their perception of life and marriage shaped their reasons.

I read a post earlier about why women go through school like men do, and end up wanting the man to cater totally for her after marriage.

it's not like there are no women who fend for and take care of themselves, but majority of them want a man to be responsible for them, and the only, legally binding means to that end is marriage.

as far I'm concerned, 21st century marriage is a total fvck up.

hypergamy is the order of the day. love is now just a word in the dictionary.

killjoy:



if.... they will raised to dwell on fact, not on some stupid traditional dogma. I will teach them to act and make decisions based on rational reasons not because the fucking world is doing it. kappish??

Clearly you don't know yet the importance of the dad and mum figure in the psychological build of children. I'm glad that I read in one of your reply that you're a sucker for knowledge, one day your realization will come.

I absolutely agree with the points you have given, but the thing is if you ever have a change of view, you won't comeback her to state how wrong you were. I do hope your business/dream comes through, cuz you sure look like you pack a punch.

Just know one thing, truly marriage is overrated, it sometimes kill dreams, plot to trap men and all that, despite all these facts, there will be times were the thoughts will fight back of how relevant it is despite being irrelevant in your view.

killjoy:

I read a post earlier about why women go through school like men do, and end up wanting the man to cater totally for her after marriage.

it's not like there are no women who fend for and take care of themselves, but majority of them want a man to be responsible for them, and the only, legally binding means to that end is marriage.

as far I'm concerned, 21st century marriage is a total fvck up.

hypergamy is the order of the day. love is now just a word in the dictionary.

If this is what and how you think of women then if I were you I definitely won't get married. No one likes to be used in this way.

Men don't need to be married to a woman before they take up her financial needs. Many men have mistresses they dote on while neglecting their wives a man can refuse to be responsible to his legally married wife. If anyone should talk of avoiding marriage these days it's women many have not had it easy century in and out.

If 21st marriage is messed up the previous century marriages can't be all that since they produced disillusioned jaded men and women who don't know how to act well according to you.

Love is love. I remain a believer.

Whether you marry or not.......best wishes.

Ruq:


Clearly you don't know yet the importance of the dad and mum figure in the psychological build of children. I'm glad that I read in one of your reply that you're a sucker for knowledge, one day your realization will come.

I absolutely agree with the points you have given, but the thing is if you ever have a change of view, you won't comeback her to state how wrong you were. I do hope your business/dream comes through, cuz you sure look like you pack a punch.

Just know one thing, truly marriage is overrated, it sometimes kill dreams, plot to trap men and all that, despite all these facts, there will be times were the thoughts will fight back of how relevant it is despite being irrelevant in your view.

if I ever come to the realization that "a man NEEDS to be married" for whatever reason, I will come here and share my reasons with all and sundry. I give you my word.

about the thought of the relevance of marriage, hmmmm, let's hope for the best.

thanks for your comments

andromida:


If this is what and how you think of women then if I were you I definitely won't get married. No one likes to be used in this way.

Men don't need to be married to a woman before they take up her financial needs. Many men have mistresses they dote on while neglecting their wives a man can refuse to be responsible to his legally married wife. If anyone should talk of avoiding marriage these days it's women many have not had it easy century in and out.

If 21st marriage is messed up the previous century marriages can't be all that since they produced disillusioned jaded men and women who don't know how to act well according to you.

Love is love. I remain a believer.

Whether you marry or not.......best wishes.

to a very minute extent, I agree with the bolded. if really something stings you over and over again, why in God's name will you indulge in it over and over again? I'll never know what it feels like to be a single woman, I'll never know...

...but let me tell you something I very well know, the awesome feeling of being a single guy! only few pleasures compare to it.

I hope you find love or love finds you, whichever is less stressful.

thanks for your good wishes

LordReed:


Whatever dude.

Sure man, whatever

Marriage plus love is fu*king overrated though.

killjoy:



you don't have to go far, you can download it. it's free online. get predatory female tooo

Sure

slim49z:

Sure man, whatever
Marriage plus love is fu*king overrated though.

lollzzzzzzzz...

whatever indeed.

killjoy:




don't misquote me. besides marriage having a toll on your career, I said many other things. like it might crash with the same passion it started, we are too different to live together, love between a man and a woman is mere affectation. many many more reasons I gave. why tenaciously hold onto just one, matter of fact, the last one?




plus, I also stated that I have no grudges against having kids. but I will not purchase a whole pig for a sausage or two.

I also stated that I am not here to defend marriage, why is that not getting through to you?

Yeah kids are sausage, LoL. Have some kids first then come back and tell us your experience.

LordReed:


I also stated that I am not here to defend marriage, why is that not getting through to you?

Yeah kids are sausage, LoL. Have some kids first then come back and tell us your experience.

lol Ait then

This thread is still dragging,

Killjoy make sure you don't marry because if you do, you will be in big trouble,

As for kids, make sure you don,t have one because it will be a course for you.

Children are either liabilities or curses...never a blessing.

A man who cannot bear the liabilities of a woman cannot bear those of children.

The arm robbers, kidnappers and boko boys of today are the curses we birthed into the society

Please stay single. It is safer

urheme:
This thread is still dragging,

Killjoy make sure you don't marry because if you do, you will be in big trouble,

As for kids, make sure you don,t have one because it will be a course for you.

Children are either liabilities or courses...never a blessing.

A man who cannot bear the liabilities of a woman cannot bear those of children.

The arm robbers, kidnappers and boko boys of today are the courses we birthed into the society

Please stay single. It is safer

thank you for the admonition. I needed it.

LordReed:


I also stated that I am not here to defend marriage, why is that not getting through to you?

Yeah kids are sausage, LoL. Have some kids first then come back and tell us your experience.

I was kinda under the impression you were defending marriage..good to hear you're not.

killjoy:




oh purrleeeasseeee..... don't come at me with this separation aftermath jorrr. do I look like a baby to cry when daddy and mummy are fighting? women experience the good side of marriage, men suffer the bad part. why do women go to lengths just to get married? what's in for them?

you would never know that you are affected by that cause you will be forming "I'm not a crybaby".... I'm a female, I never found marriage as an interesting thing and I still don't now... why mum and dad are separated, I grew up in an area filled with marital violence too, various couples hurting themselves. I've always envisioned myself living alone with a child probably and doing fine... why my psychology has been played with as a child. Not everyone finds marriage interesting and statistics have shown that it is common among kids from broken homes (Google it), if mumsy and popsy had the sweet kind of marriage, you would have been singing a different tune now.