Nigerians are too quick to react...

we find it very difficult to accept challenges... and.we.all.want to.move forward

only.a strong man can rule this.country without dying of hypertension

smh

We should also ask 'what went wrong with Nigerians'. A substantial amount of Nigerians either pay no power bills, connect power illegally or connive with crooked officials to underpay.

That said, it still remains very insensitive to ask people to pay more for power when they are still getting terrible service. This is the 2nd big increase in electricity tariffs in the past few years...and the previous increase did nothing to improve the power situation

Yhinkss:
There are a lot we seem not to understand or maybe we are interested in focusing on the negatives. There are no develoment without pain and sacrifices all what we nigerians want is to continue getting better things at their comfort zones
First of all the price template was not fashioned by Fashola it was a design from the previous government for an ideal running of the system. If u listened to what BRF said that it was the way it had suppose to be with the price but the last government did not implement it. The Disco recently declared to divest from the buy if the pricing is not improved because they are not making return and it is preventing them in investing more and even exanding as required by the government agreement on them. How can u run a business without making profits? So accordingly the new pricing will now make them stand well in terms of rendering and expanding after a particular time in agreement with the govt.
We only want everything to suit us like oyibo without making any effort like them . When we travel to other developed nations do you realise how much other nations are paying for various taxes that are non existent in nigeria we just like everything free.
Some social service is coming as promised and we are happy but how many are ready to pay for anything just like other nations or do you all complain or refuse to pay if you travel out especially South Africa
Let's compare Nepa to diesel or inverter it is still larger very low so there is a bit of support from the citizenry for our own benefits

At least someone here is thinking. Thank God.

Lots of misinformation going on about the electricity tariff hike. This goes to show how much we forget as well as how much hear say we rely on

A document called the MYTO (Multi Year Tariff Order) strictly regulates tariffs in the power sector and is administered by a government agency called NERC. This document was initiated in 2008 and so far, two MYTO - 1 & 2 have been issued.

MYTO 1 lasted between 2008 - 2013
MYTO 2 lasted between 2013 - 2016
MYTO 2.1 will last from 2016 - 2018 with adjustments expected to be built into the pricing to reflect the realities of the times.

More information about the MTYO Methodology and regime can be found here:
http://www.nercng.org/index.php/myto-2

I will like to point out that the power privatization scheme for former PHCN called for investors to take over assets thus be able to provide power at a profit, not a loss (like our government did for many decades). To keep the industry attractive, the pricing of power certainly had to change and from inception of Fashola as a minister, he clearly explained that prices will have to go up to make power generation attractive to investors.

The argument has been put forward that power supply needs to be provided before a hike in prices. I used to think this way until it was evident to me that the assets, including generating & transmission companies, took over were largely were largely run down and many ran out of their funds. The CBN provided a bridging loan to the companies earlier 2015 however the disbursement of the loan had to stop because the cash flow using the old tariffs would be unable to sustain repayment of the loans.

I will suggest that we give the power companies at least till end of 2017 to not only improve on electricity distribution, but to see how stable electricity becomes. I am happy it is now in private hands and will be happier it is done right. According to the MYTO 2.1 document, the tariff is expected to drop in 2017-2018 as more houses are metered and captured on the electricity distribution network nationwide.

To dispel the stereotype that to hide anything from a black man put it in a book, I invite you to read the provided details and become more informed about the power privatization process as opposed to relying on hear say.

No politician is a saint..do they even think about us...but then again, we re d cause of it all...we should be able to reject some of their unfovourable policies..as its done in other climes....#Letsstopsufferingnsmiling

RightBoo:


What better things that Nigerians are getting on their comfort zone?

Abeg no annoy person with these your senseless made comment...

Nigerians are ready to pay and sacrifice when there is comfort.
Present phcn charges before it hiked was an overrated pay against the worst condition of power supply in every Nigerian home.

There was never a comfort in suffering...
Nigeria has been suffering from epileptic power supply in times immemorial.
Nothing enjoying there but we tolerated and adjusted like everything is fine, because we reason and think like blacks...

Fashola should review the current charges ASAP.
Nigerians have suffered enough yet nothing tangible is done by Nigeria leaders.

Thanks for replying the slowpoke. Was gonna reply him, then I read ur post. The idiiot is busy talking about oyinbo people and all that. I am sure he hasn't even been to Lagos, if at all he has ever left his village.

The oyinbo people he's talking about would never tolerate all this poo we go tru in naija. Nigerians are suffering without reason. We should have been living like the Saudis.

PMB is wasting our money junketing the globe, while his favorite and minister extraordinaire is forcing a bitter pill down our throat. Our govts have been irresponsible from independence.

Alberta is one of the richest provinces in Canada yet the premier was forced to resign because she spent about $34k CAD to attend Mandela's funeral. In naija, ordinary ministers spend more than that on their girlfriends in a weekend.

Oyinbo people will complain and vote out a govt if there's no power for one week without any good reason. Nigerians don't have light yet FG is increasing tariff. If we accept this, then we are doomed. This is just the first of many. A litmus test . Say no to this tariff.

They should sacrifice from the top. There's more than enough at the top. The masses are suffering. Nigeria is not a zoo. Or is it? We deserve better.

chivic:
Most Nigerians will agree with me that among the current ministers,Fashola is one that that stands out and with him in this current cabinet, a lot of us have great optimism that at least he will deliver.
In fact, Buhari's exclusive trust and believe in him made him to attach a combination of portfolios to him,believing that once he can deliver, then his administration would receive a lot of applause. It is worth mentioning that Fashola's success can earn Buhari a return ticket.

However,the recent increase in electricity tariff is not only shocking,but heart rending.
What went wrong?who advice him?who has brainwashed our guy? is there something at the presidency that makes people with good intention to begin to think upside down? Would Fashola in his smart reasoning ability have taken this, if it has been proposed in the last administration?does it make sense at all?
How on earth will the government increase Tariff for no light?are we not already paying more than what we get?Why don't the tell us that once we start receiving light on an average of 12 hours per day,then the Tariff of that area,region or Zone will be increased.?

Something has gone wrong!If even Fashola can confidently think like this,then we need an emergency prayer.






They should deliver service first before increasing Tariff. We are currently paying more than we are getting.And yet they are forcing us to pay more again for a futuristic promise. We need to occupy Nigeria for this.

If education is too expensive for you keep your children at home, if the current tariff of electricity is too much, lets remain at status quo. Always want better things without making attempts. No gain without pain

chivic:
Most Nigerians will agree with me that among the current ministers,Fashola is one that that stands out and with him in this current cabinet, a lot of us have great optimism that at least he will deliver.
In fact, Buhari's exclusive trust and believe in him made him to attach a combination of portfolios to him,believing that once he can deliver, then his administration would receive a lot of applause. It is worth mentioning that Fashola's success can earn Buhari a return ticket.

However,the recent increase in electricity tariff is not only shocking,but heart rending.
What went wrong?who advice him?who has brainwashed our guy? is there something at the presidency that makes people with good intention to begin to think upside down? Would Fashola in his smart reasoning ability have taken this, if it has been proposed in the last administration?does it make sense at all?
How on earth will the government increase Tariff for no light?are we not already paying more than what we get?Why don't the tell us that once we start receiving light on an average of 12 hours per day,then the Tariff of that area,region or Zone will be increased.?

Something has gone wrong!If even Fashola can confidently think like this,then we need an emergency prayer.






They should deliver service first before increasing Tariff. We are currently paying more than we are getting.And yet they are forcing us to pay more again for a futuristic promise. We need to occupy Nigeria for this.

Forget that thing. Fashola is looking beyond your pocket at the big picture. Do you want electricity, he is there to bring you to equity between you and those who are selling. That is government's responsibility. Not elected or appointed to stroke your fantasy of freebies, the kind of lifestyle that landed us here in the first place. Nothing wrong with him and he will get the results at the end of the day. Energy is very expensive to invest in and run, margins are tight and risks are high so few institutions touch it. We must be ready to make serious sacrifices if we are to ever tame the energy monster.

What I suggest Nigerians do is to increase the value of the power they have or can afford. Just like fuel and a taxi driver. It is not how much fuel you have but how much money you can make out of the fuel you have. What is the economic cost versus gain of the electricity you have. If one hour of power a month cost me N5000, I must make N5000+ within that period of 1 hour. Think like that and watch your bills fall. Most Nigerians don't.

When pple coment sometimes I wonder if dey knw what dey say. Hope we realise that the normal N750 fixed charge wil be scraped?
Hence we wil only be paying for the amount of energy consumed.even if the tarrif is increased, it now depends on how u we are able to conserve energy and save our cost.
D only problem is dat not everybody has postpaid meter, if this meters can be made available den I think it wil b ok.
That is what mr fashola is trying to xplain to nigerians, so dat weil b able to minimise d way we consume energy.

Teddeebear:
thrash, if you he met the pricing why can't he review it for the interest of the masses, was he sent there for the interest of companies

secondly, stop comparing us with those countries, your govt cannot even pay 18000 minimum wage, go and find out the minimum wage in those countries you are comparing us with.


Those countries enjoy what they pay for, but In Nigeria, what we pay for ends in silly allowances for political class and others looted.

People have been paying for estimated bills and now the power supply have not changed but the people are asked to pay more, are you ok?


finally, those companies were dashed out to political class free with 300billion as start up funds in the name of privatization, the only thing that This people have done is to rent offices and furnish them, go and find out what investments that they have done with the money.

All the power stations, substations, gas pipelines, dams and turbines were/are built with public funds, taxpayers money.

but These things have been given out free,

you people just comment, you don't know what is going on in this country, the rich will only get richer, the middle class will continue to wake up by 4am and sleep by 11pm, just to make extra money to pay bills and the poor will get poorer.


this is why Our GDP doesn't reflect on the lives of the people.

Nigeria is one of the fastest growing economies, yet people are poorer by the day.


they do these things because they know Nigerians will adapt, there are already used to suffering, in developed countries, the people would have protested, offices locked, street occupied.

but In Nigeria, if you talk they think you are in opposition party, we leave everything to labor unions, who will protest for few weeks and collect bribes then suffering continues

That explain it all. I wonder how some people reason in this country.

Yhinkss:
There are a lot we seem not to understand or maybe we are interested in focusing on the negatives. There are no develoment without pain and sacrifices all what we nigerians want is to continue getting better things at their comfort zones
First of all the price template was not fashioned by Fashola it was a design from the previous government for an ideal running of the system. If u listened to what BRF said that it was the way it had suppose to be with the price but the last government did not implement it. The Disco recently declared to divest from the buy if the pricing is not improved because they are not making return and it is preventing them in investing more and even exanding as required by the government agreement on them. How can u run a business without making profits? So accordingly the new pricing will now make them stand well in terms of rendering and expanding after a particular time in agreement with the govt.
We only want everything to suit us like oyibo without making any effort like them . When we travel to other developed nations do you realise how much other nations are paying for various taxes that are non existent in nigeria we just like everything free.
Some social service is coming as promised and we are happy but how many are ready to pay for anything just like other nations or do you all complain or refuse to pay if you travel out especially South Africa
Let's compare Nepa to diesel or inverter it is still larger very low so there is a bit of support from the citizenry for our own benefits

What? Are u for real? I've lived in south Africa, Botswana and England, now I'm back to Nigeria, please what are the taxes we pay aboard that don't exist here?.what services has the Nigeria govt ever been able to efficiently deliver? How much is minimum wage in developed countries compared to Nigeria? How can you compare the standard of living abroad to that of the average Nigerian who lives on less than $1 a day?
In the early 1990s when in Botswana, power supply was only interrupted for 5min for the 6 six years I lived there!
How much was my monthly bill? There was never I hike in the 6 years I lived there!
What govt makes increase of 45%? That's just wickedness. Especially when they know most Nigerians can't afford it.

Yhinkss:
There are a lot we seem not to understand or maybe we are interested in focusing on the negatives. There are no develoment without pain and sacrifices all what we nigerians want is to continue getting better things at their comfort zones
First of all the price template was not fashioned by Fashola it was a design from the previous government for an ideal running of the system. If u listened to what BRF said that it was the way it had suppose to be with the price but the last government did not implement it. The Disco recently declared to divest from the buy if the pricing is not improved because they are not making return and it is preventing them in investing more and even exanding as required by the government agreement on them. How can u run a business without making profits? So accordingly the new pricing will now make them stand well in terms of rendering and expanding after a particular time in agreement with the govt.
We only want everything to suit us like oyibo without making any effort like them . When we travel to other developed nations do you realise how much other nations are paying for various taxes that are non existent in nigeria we just like everything free.
Some social service is coming as promised and we are happy but how many are ready to pay for anything just like other nations or do you all complain or refuse to pay if you travel out especially South Africa
Let's compare Nepa to diesel or inverter it is still larger very low so there is a bit of support from the citizenry for our own benefits

Guy u are not making sense here at all. Nigerians believe in reality not on benchmark or some mapped out project. We r saying ok we will pay but ist show us dat u r willing to deliever. How can a area in Nasarawa state for example have light only 4 just 4hours a whole day and u ask the person to pay a bill of 8k. We r not against d price but d implementation. Give us light, let's see dis light and use it then we will be so happy to pay anything they want to

It was only a matter of time before the shine shine tin foil that packaged the FRAUDULENT scam that Fashola:

is
was and
ever shall be

would wear off.
Not everyone was taken by his paparazzi PROPAGANDA-fueled "excellent" performance.
Not everyone.



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mikolo80:
you've forgotten lekki toll,university fee hike and 35,000naira traffic violation penalty ba. he just there to 'privatise ' things for elite (him and tinubu crew). but at least they get sheet to work so well support them till Ben Bruce become governor (hope he stops thinking like koro)

you knw the reality jare. Fashola is a wicked man, I spent good numbers of years in Lagos & I knw the reality on ground

How is it shocking? isn't this the same fashola that increased LASU school fees!

Yhinkss:
There are a lot we seem not to understand or maybe we are interested in focusing on the negatives. There are no develoment without pain and sacrifices all what we nigerians want is to continue getting better things at their comfort zones
First of all the price template was not fashioned by Fashola it was a design from the previous government for an ideal running of the system. If u listened to what BRF said that it was the way it had suppose to be with the price but the last government did not implement it. The Disco recently declared to divest from the buy if the pricing is not improved because they are not making return and it is preventing them in investing more and even exanding as required by the government agreement on them. How can u run a business without making profits? So accordingly the new pricing will now make them stand well in terms of rendering and expanding after a particular time in agreement with the govt.
We only want everything to suit us like oyibo without making any effort like them . When we travel to other developed nations do you realise how much other nations are paying for various taxes that are non existent in nigeria we just like everything free.
Some social service is coming as promised and we are happy but how many are ready to pay for anything just like other nations or do you all complain or refuse to pay if you travel out especially South Africa
Let's compare Nepa to diesel or inverter it is still larger very low so there is a bit of support from the citizenry for our own benefits

Oga, why not tell the government to ask these DISCOs to distribute meters, how Logically is it to increase electricity tariff without metering? I think the first thing the govt. should have done is to make sure prepaid meters are made available to consumers then they can hike or increase the tariff. In this case, Nigerians will pay for electricity whether they used or not. In my opinion that is robbery.

First of all,this talk about nigerians will not mind to pay more if services improved is just a text book rhetoric with no basis cos the reality is that nigerians,including the elites don't enjoy paying bills at all except they are forced with threats of fine or imprisonment.

Even the educated ones are not exempted cos you see even elites living in luxurious estates here in abuja tweaking their meters so as not to pay more even though power has been fairly constant here in the FCT.

Both sides of the argument have valid points for and against any tariff increment but a govt has got to do wot it has got to do if things must work properly but how it then goes about it is a whole different matter.

gists:

Which of those items that you listed is not functioning? You complain about too much payment, yet an average of 700,0000 people are trooping to Lagos every day! The simple reason is because you get the services you pay for. Nigerians don't mind paying for services as long as the service is delivered.
People like you should know that there is no free lunch. You want constant electricity? Then be ready to pay for it - Period!
The only reason why I didn't support tariff increment during previous administrations is that WE KNOW it will be embezzled. However, with PMB, this is not the case. Even without the increment, we started noticing improvement in power supply.
I know some wailers will say its GEJ that did it (conveniently forgetting the ground works of OBJ). But I ask them why it is that we didn't see the result in GEJ's time. If you buy a generator in your house, won't the generator start working immediately or will it wait till you move out of the house and another person takes over before the generator start to work?

Having said this, Fashola must know that he has now put his name and reputation on the line! Tariff has now been increase by as much as 65%. He and his team had better make power available - otherwise we will not fail to utilize our voting power in 2019 to boot them out!

average of 700,000 thousand on daily basis yet not over flowing with human beings? go and get your figures right, for energy issue, you don't pay for what you don't have or using, let them put everything in place with the tariff they've been collecting since time immemorial and inflate the charges, we Nigerians are ready to pay only after that, period.

Nothing has changed about him. He remains the same tyrant, hater of the masses and the common man.

chivic:
It's true that most Nigerian want to get things without pains,but this is different. If it were subsidy, it's understandable, but how can you be paying for what u don't even have. The so called investors seems not to be serious.How do they expect to start making profit without delivering service first? That's corruption on its own.
In other parts of the world an investor could take up to 10 yrs to break even and start making profit,but in Naija,everyone wants to make profit overnight.

What is bad is bad and must be condemned

Can I suggest you perhaps read the document here before coming to the erroneous conclusion that investors are unserious? I mean we're talking about people like Tonye Cole of Sahara Energy that own IKEDC, Tony Elumelu and many more. How possible is it that such accomplished business people will suddenly not know what they are doing?

http://www.nercng.org/index.php/myto-2

gists:

Which of those items that you listed is not functioning? You complain about too much payment, yet an average of 700,0000 people are trooping to Lagos every day! The simple reason is because you get the services you pay for. Nigerians don't mind paying for services as long as the service is delivered.
People like you should know that there is no free lunch. You want constant electricity? Then be ready to pay for it - Period!
The only reason why I didn't support tariff increment during previous administrations is that WE KNOW it will be embezzled. However, with PMB, this is not the case. Even without the increment, we started noticing improvement in power supply.
I know some wailers will say its GEJ that did it (conveniently forgetting the ground works of OBJ). But I ask them why it is that we didn't see the result in GEJ's time. If you buy a generator in your house, won't the generator start working immediately or will it wait till you move out of the house and another person takes over before the generator start to work?

Having said this, Fashola must know that he has now put his name and reputation on the line! Tariff has now been increase by as much as 65%. He and his team had better make power available - otherwise we will not fail to utilize our voting power in 2019 to boot them out!

Great submission however I do not agree that the increase is anywhere near a 65% hike taking into consideration that N750 monthly fixed charge has now been totally removed.

Rolings:
Jealousy will kill you , it's obvious you have not been to Lagos in a while . Even diehard ipob members will not say what you have just said. Fashola is an achiever who achieved more than your hero.

If by hero, you mean Jonathan, he delivered on continuously improving train service after reviving what Buhari KILLED in the 80s.

eazydon:
At my backyard in Aba. our own train over here is very real. 2 times in a day it vibrates the ground.


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Fashola (and Tinubu before him) have been unable to revive the metro rail that the same Buhari CANCELLED in the 80s.
Despite chopping $1 billion loans oh
That is just one example oh where Jonathan dusts the FAKE megalomaniac and media-hugging maladministrator called Alhaji Babatunde Raji Fashola.

Firefire:
Fellow Nairalanders, in response to Fashola comments below on not receiving enough support from the federal government to complete the Lagos light rail project.

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"Fashola said all over the world, when cities and states build municipal rails like what Lagos is doing, their central governments support them morally and financially"[/size]

https://www.nairaland.com/2120455/cant-complete-lagos-light-rail

Few months ago same Fashola said this:


[size=15pt]Lagos: How We Spent N160bn World Bank Loan on Light Rail Project[/size]

The Lagos State Government yesterday justified the N160 billion it borrowed from the World Bank, noting that the fund was channelled to finance its light rail (blue line) project.

However, the state government expressed disappointment at the progress of the project, which it said, was not executed as smoothly as possible, but was optimistic of its completion.

The state Governor, Mr. Babatunde Fashola, said this shortly after inspecting the light rail terminus at the Orile-Iganmu part of the state alongside some members of the state executive council.

Speaking with journalists, Fashola said the project would have been completed in another 12 months despite that the project execution was not as smooth and speedy as he wanted it.

The governor raised questions on the intention of the federal government for publishing the state debt profile in the recent time, wondering what could have informed the decision to make it public.

He said: “I think it was the Debt Management Office of the federal government that published the report that we have a debt of about N160billion. I do not know the intent of the publication.

“But if it was to inform the public, I think we have always kept the public informed anytime we borrow money. If there are other intentions behind that, only those who make the publication would know what the intentions are.

“But you see, when people talk about debt of a state like Lagos, they forget that after Nigeria, South Africa, Egypt and one other country, we have the fifth largest economy in Africa.

“When you are talking of about a billion naira debt to a population of over 21 million people; because if you are measuring the debt, you also have to measure the responsibility. Those are the things people keep in isolation.”

He, therefore, explained that the state government already “has in place, strategies to repay the loan. The federal government was in the know of the state’s decision to take the bond and it approved it.”

[size=15pt]He added that the truth “is that what they do not also say is that no state in Nigeria can borrow money outside, from any multilateral agencies without the approval of the federal government.[/size]

“What they did not say is that they approved it. No state can raise money by bond the way we have done without the federal government’s approval. [size=18pt]Both SEC and NSE are all federal regulatory agencies through which we must pass. If they said okay, it means there must be something good about the debt.
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“Our rating as a state is the same as that of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, BB minus-stable with a positive outlook. We are the only state in Nigeria that has that rating. The first bond that was taken during my first tenure has been paid; the first tranche has been paid.

“I think the second tranche will be settled around 2016 or 2017. We are already making provisions. The provisions that will be there will be in excess of what is needed,” the governor said

Fashola expressed satisfaction on the progress of the light rail project, though decried the petty delay that was encountered as a result funding, saying the project would have should have been completed in another 12 months.

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/lagos-how-we-spent-n160bn-world-bank-loan-on-light-rail-project/188736/

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TTC in talks to sell old trains to Lagos. Are they safe enough?
AUGUST 10, 2011

As Toronto trainspotters gleefully take maiden rides on the TTC's Rocket, commuters in Lagos, Nigeria may be about to get some new trains of their own. Our old ones.

A TTC spokesperson has confirmed that the commission is negotiating with a private group to sell up to 260 used train cars to the West African megacity's new transit project.

"I can confirm that the TTC is in discussion with a third party that wants to purchase trains for Lagos," said commission spokesperson Brad Ross. "Over a period of time, they will be taken out of service and then transported over to Nigeria."

The cars being considered for sale are the TTC's old H-5 and H-6 models, which will be decommissioned as the TTC rolls out its new fleet of Rockets. Ross predicts the earliest they could be shipped to Nigeria is sometime in 2012.

Traffic snarls are already a major economic problem in the Nigerian capital, a booming city that will reach an estimated population of 25 million by 2015. A new above-ground rail system designed to carry 1.5 million people a day has already broken ground, and Lagos Governor Babtunde Fashola has said it "will be the most multi-dimensional and most impactful" of the government's efforts to reduce traffic congestion.

Fashola visited Toronto earlier this year to inspect the TTC trains.

The Lagos deal would be the first of its kind for the TTC. Decommissioned cars are usually sold for scrap metal and can fetch up to $1,500 dollar each. While Ross declined to discuss specific figures, he says the sticker price for Lagos is "significantly more" than scrap prices, putting the potential profits to the TTC in the millions of dollars.

It is not unusual for technology from western nations to end up in poorer countries. Marketplaces in Africa and Asia are flooded with North American clothes, computers, and even cars, but the purchase of larger technology like trains is rarer.

The cars will have to be significantly refurbished to fit existing infrastructure in Lagos, and some Nigerian media reports have lamented that the government appears to have settled on "tokundo," or used, trains instead of brand new vehicles.

Although half the cars are more than 30 years old, Ross is adamant they are perfectly safe and are only being decommissioned for capacity reasons. But he also admitted the TTC is not required to make sure the cars meet any safety standards before selling them.

"Once sold, it's up to the new operator to ensure they are in good working order," he said. "They do need to be maintained much more frequently than the new trains, simply because of their age. At some point they will run out their useful life."

Murtaza Haider, director of the Institute of Housing and Mobility at Ryerson University, said the age of the cars is definitely a cause for concern.

"We should be ensuring that there is some service life left in these vehicles and we're not going to be playing havoc with the lives of those who would ride these vehicles," Haider said. "There's metal fatigue, and that metal fatigue could result in dangerous conditions. I would be paying a close watch on this for the next ten years to see how many accidents do happen in Lagos."

He also warned that while rail systems are glamorous as far as transit infrastructure goes, they are not always as effective at reducing congestion as other options. Nevertheless, new rail systems are frequently preferred because governments can take advantage of kickbacks from large contracts.

According to media reports, the cost estimates for the Lagos rail project have varied wildly from $1.2 billion to $30 billion. In 2010, a Nigerian government watchdog accused Fashola's government of widespread corruption.

"More often than not, politicians favour rail transit because it is more expensive," Haider said. "It's almost useless in some cases, and less productive in most cases, than a bus system. But you can't buy busses for $30 billion. You can inflate prices and make a lot of money buying a rail system."

From: https://nowtoronto.com/news/next-stop-nigeria/

I bet that if this increase had been initiated by the last administration, Fashola and other APC supporters would have occupied the entire Nigeria for that reason. This government simply has a way of tricking the masses into believing that even the worst condition is the best for them.

Nothing "went wrong" with Fashola. The people with whom something "went wrong" are those who expect to receive electricity without actually having to pay what it costs to distribute it. Apparently many Nigerians would rather sit in darkness and queue for hours to buy fuel for "I pass my neighbor", rather than pay a rate for stable, reliable electricity that covers the distribution costs.

Other commenters have already explained the financial and legal realities well enough, so I won't bother repeating all of that. The only thing I'll add is that it's really quite shameful that so many people are quick to slur Fashola's character simply because he dares to say things they don't want to hear. Would you all prefer that he behaved like another of the many lying Nigerian politicians who have promised you "awoof" over the years, only to deliver nothing but broken promises in the end? Isn't it good to see a Nigerian politician actually show the courage to tell the harsh truth for once?

By the way, I really wish there were a way to filter out certain commenters who add nothing to discussions but the same old tired, blatantly partisan pictures and cartoons, every single time ...

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Oh shut up.


I'm stating facts you're talking nonsense

Olowolafe is on board of Eko.

Considering that when tenders were opened in 2013 and the company that invested in Eko Disco were not clairvoyant and had no idea Fashola would become a Minister for Power 3 years later, I conclude that your providing this information is totally uncalled for and irrelevant.

A PDP-led GEJ government sold off assets of the power sector and invited bids. So what is wrong if Fashola's crony is on the board of this private company?

adeomolisabi:
Nothing "went wrong" with Fashola. The people with whom something "went wrong" are those who expect to receive electricity without actually having to pay what it costs to distribute it. Apparently many Nigerians would rather sit in darkness and queue for hours to buy fuel for "I pass my neighbor", rather than pay a rate for stable, reliable electricity that covers the distribution costs.

Other commenters have already explained the financial and legal realities well enough, so I won't bother repeating all of that. The only thing I'll add is that it's really quite shameful that so many people are quick to slur Fashola's character simply because he dares to say things they don't want to hear. Would you all prefer that he behaved like another of the many lying Nigerian politicians who have promised you "awoof" over the years, only to deliver nothing but broken promises in the end? Isn't it good to see a Nigerian politician actually show the courage to tell the harsh truth for once?

Perhaps he needs to listen to the harsh truth from us as well about his dismal performance record of eight years ruining Lagos state, innit

eaglechild:
We can't complete Lagos light rail project

We obviously can't complete Lekki international phantom airport.

And you will be the biggest fool to think that we can complete Eko Atlantic.

Use your head people where do you think we are getting all the money we are using to sponsor Buhari


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Paentera:
Lots of misinformation going on about the electricity tariff hike. This goes to show how much we forget as well as how much hear say we rely on

A document called the MYTO (Multi Year Tariff Order) strictly regulates tariffs in the power sector and is administered by a government agency called NERC. This document was initiated in 2008 and so far, two MYTO - 1 & 2 have been issued.

MYTO 1 lasted between 2008 - 2013
MYTO 2 lasted between 2013 - 2016
MYTO 2.1 will last from 2016 - 2018 with adjustments expected to be built into the pricing to reflect the realities of the times.

More information about the MTYO Methodology and regime can be found here:
http://www.nercng.org/index.php/myto-2

I will like to point out that the power privatization scheme for former PHCN called for investors to take over assets thus be able to provide power at a profit, not a loss (like our government did for many decades). To keep the industry attractive, the pricing of power certainly had to change and from inception of Fashola as a minister, he clearly explained that prices will have to go up to make power generation attractive to investors.

The argument has been put forward that power supply needs to be provided before a hike in prices. I used to think this way until it was evident to me that the assets, including generating & transmission companies, took over were largely were largely run down and many ran out of their funds. The CBN provided a bridging loan to the companies earlier 2015 however the disbursement of the loan had to stop because the cash flow using the old tariffs would be unable to sustain repayment of the loans.

I will suggest that we give the power companies at least till end of 2017 to not only improve on electricity distribution, but to see how stable electricity becomes. I am happy it is now in private hands and will be happier it is done right. According to the MYTO 2.1 document, the tariff is expected to drop in 2017-2018 as more houses are metered and captured on the electricity distribution network nationwide.

To dispel the stereotype that to hide anything from a black man put it in a book, I invite you to read the provided details and become more informed about the power privatization process as opposed to relying on hear say.

With all your MYTO this MYTO that can you pay for a commodity a bottle of coke before the production? All we want from Disco is to meter us before the charges so that we pay for what we consume only not estimated bill without service.

gists:

Which of those items that you listed is not functioning? You complain about too much payment, yet an average of 700,0000 people are trooping to Lagos every day! The simple reason is because you get the services you pay for. Nigerians don't mind paying for services as long as the service is delivered.
People like you should know that there is no free lunch. You want constant electricity? Then be ready to pay for it - Period!
The only reason why I didn't support tariff increment during previous administrations is that WE KNOW it will be embezzled. However, with PMB, this is not the case. Even without the increment, we started noticing improvement in power supply.
I know some wailers will say its GEJ that did it (conveniently forgetting the ground works of OBJ). But I ask them why it is that we didn't see the result in GEJ's time. If you buy a generator in your house, won't the generator start working immediately or will it wait till you move out of the house and another person takes over before the generator start to work?

Having said this, Fashola must know that he has now put his name and reputation on the line! Tariff has now been increase by as much as 65%. He and his team had better make power available - otherwise we will not fail to utilize our voting power in 2019 to boot them out!

of course you get what you pay for but why must the poorest people in the world pay 2 billion per kilometre of road or how many ppl salary can afford a 35,000 hit (fines should be rehabilitative not punitive),brt has almost disappeared. he is the best among the worst but he could do 10 times better if he wasn't an elitist. abi how many time you see awolowo impose unreasonable cost

Yhinkss:
There are a lot we seem not to understand or maybe we are interested in focusing on the negatives. There are no develoment without pain and sacrifices all what we nigerians want is to continue getting better things at their comfort zones
First of all the price template was not fashioned by Fashola it was a design from the previous government for an ideal running of the system. If u listened to what BRF said that it was the way it had suppose to be with the price but the last government did not implement it. The Disco recently declared to divest from the buy if the pricing is not improved because they are not making return and it is preventing them in investing more and even exanding as required by the government agreement on them. How can u run a business without making profits? So accordingly the new pricing will now make them stand well in terms of rendering and expanding after a particular time in agreement with the govt.
We only want everything to suit us like oyibo without making any effort like them . When we travel to other developed nations do you realise how much other nations are paying for various taxes that are non existent in nigeria we just like everything free.
Some social service is coming as promised and we are happy but how many are ready to pay for anything just like other nations or do you all complain or refuse to pay if you travel out especially South Africa
Let's compare Nepa to diesel or inverter it is still larger very low so there is a bit of support from the citizenry for our own benefits

I concur with you.

mikolo80:
of course you get what you pay for but why must the poorest people in the world pay 2 billion per kilometre of road or how many ppl salary can afford a 35,000 hit (fines should be rehabilitative not punitive),brt has almost disappeared. he is the best among the worst but he could do 10 times better if he wasn't an elitist. abi how many time you see awolowo impose unreasonable cost

.......and below is just a GLIMPSE of the record and legacy of the real ACTION governor that Lagos state ever had.

eluquenson:
REVISITING SOME OF THE LATEEF JAKANDE'S GOVERNMENT ACHIEVEMENTS FROM OCTOBER 1979 TO DECEMBER 1983 (FOUR YEARS AND 3 MONTHS) IN LAGOS STATE
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* His government built the current Lagos State Secretariat which houses all the state ministries as well as the popular round house hitherto occupied by all subsequent governors of the state.

* His government built the Lagos State House of Assembly complex.

* His government built the Lagos State Television

* His government built the Lagos Radio

* His government built Lagos State University

* His government established General Hospital in zones all over the state with assurance of free health care.

* His government established Teacher Training College and the College of Education.

* His government built low cost houses in Ijaiye, Dolphin, Oke-Afa, Ije, Abesan, Iponri, Ipaja, Abule Nla, Epe, Amuwo-Odofin, Anikantamo, Surulere, Iba, Ikorodu, Badagry, Isheri/Olowu, Orisigun etc.

* His government established the Water Management Board and Waste Disposal Board on the 18th of August, 1980.

* His government constructed the Adiyan Water Works to increase water supply in the state to 18.16 million litres per day.

* His government modernized and expanded the Iju Water Works which was first commissioned in 1915. This increased daily capacity from 159 million to 204 million litres per day.

* His government purchased and commissioned the giant car crusher equipment. The equipment was designed specifically to crush derelict vehicles in Lagos State. It had the capacity to crush 45 vehicles per day.

* His government constructed, rehabilitated and resurfaced Epe/Ijebu-Ode Road, Oba Akran Avenue, Toyin Street, Town Planning Way, Alimosho-Idimu-Egbe Road, Idimu-Iba-LASU Road, the new secretariat road and several others.

* His government constructed Victoria Island/Epe Road and thereby creating an ‘oil rig’ for Lagos State.

* His government established Asphalt Plant for the Department of Public Works.

* His government established Electricity Board for Rural Electrification with provision of street lights.

* His government modernized, expanded and commissioned Onikan Stadium in 1982.

* His government established a singular school system and ensured genuine free education in Lagos State and the beneficiaries of this policy are in different positions of eminence in the country and around the world.

* His government raised the primary schools in Lagos State to 812 with 533,001 pupils (against 605 primary schools with 434,545 pupils he met in 1979) and secondary schools to 223 with 167,629 students (against 105 schools with 107,835 students in 1979).

* His government constructed 11, 729 classrooms with the maximum of 40 children per class between March and August 1980, by 1983, he had constructed over 22,000 classrooms.

* In July 1983, two commercial passenger boats christened "Baba Kekere and Itafaji" to run the Mile 2 - Marina (CMS) route via the lagoons were inaugurated by his government to mark the official launch of the Lagos State ferry services.

* His government took over the ownership and financing of Lagos State Printing Corporation in July 1980

* His government established the first State Traffic Management Authority (Road Marshals).

* His government established small scale Industries Credit Scheme which preceded the EKO bank.

*His government established LASACO Insurance.

*His government expanded existing market and built new ones.

*His government established Traditional Medicine Board.

WHO SAYS 4 YEARS IN OFFICE IS NOT ENOUGH FOR MEANINGFUL ACHIEVEMENTS?

IT'S A FACT THAT 90% OF GOVERNORS IN NIGERIA SINCE 1999 WITH REVENUES AT THEIR DISPOSAL CANNOT BOAST OF A QUARTER OF THESE ACHIEVEMENTS EVEN WITHIN THEIR EIGHT YEARS IN OFFICE.

When everything is changing, what do you expect?

Yhinkss:
There are a lot we seem not to understand or maybe we are interested in focusing on the negatives. There are no develoment without pain and sacrifices all what we nigerians want is to continue getting better things at their comfort zones
First of all the price template was not fashioned by Fashola it was a design from the previous government for an ideal running of the system. If u listened to what BRF said that it was the way it had suppose to be with the price but the last government did not implement it. The Disco recently declared to divest from the buy if the pricing is not improved because they are not making return and it is preventing them in investing more and even exanding as required by the government agreement on them. How can u run a business without making profits? So accordingly the new pricing will now make them stand well in terms of rendering and expanding after a particular time in agreement with the govt.
We only want everything to suit us like oyibo without making any effort like them . When we travel to other developed nations do you realise how much other nations are paying for various taxes that are non existent in nigeria we just like everything free.
Some social service is coming as promised and we are happy but how many are ready to pay for anything just like other nations or do you all complain or refuse to pay if you travel out especially South Africa
Let's compare Nepa to diesel or inverter it is still larger very low so there is a bit of support from the citizenry for our own benefits

common sense entails that the Discos borrowed money and stabilise power then increase tariff.
That federal government give them bail out, stabilize power and increase tariff.
The tariff should be directly proportional to the services rendered ie the amount of current used.
NOT
Increase tariff, bill people as you wish so that you can raise money, then expand and then stabilize power.
let us forget party affiliations and be truthful.
THOSE OF YOU SUPPORTING ANTI PEOPLE POLICIES, BE CAREFUL COS YOU MIGHT HAVE POLITICAL AMBITION TOMORROW AND WE WILL REFER TO YOUR TODAY.