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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:38pm On Feb 10, 2016
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:41pm On Feb 10, 2016
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:52pm On Feb 10, 2016
Tinfoil:
attack on AMISOM


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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by M14A1: 3:02pm On Feb 10, 2016
denisfidha:
first there are twi types of co-witnessing if the absolute doesnt work you can rise the scope alitlebit, the pic you showed from your "shooting bench"
The scar is said to fit perfectly, so dont argue for the sake of arguing, we all know when it comes to guns its all about preference of the holder, whatever works for them might not work of everyone, every trained person knows what gives him and his rifle an edge over the opponent. If the rest of his teamates had their iron sights down, the guy with his up must have tried it before during, training and prefered it that way
Having the iron sights up with aim point or eotech sights isn't bad, I don't get what this argument is all about.
You can co-witness your sights, fold the iron sight away as backup incase EOtech starts acting up.
Example is when, You are coming out of a dark room, before your eyes adapt to the bright light, you are gonna need your iron sights to Compensate for that.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 4:11pm On Feb 10, 2016

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 7:18pm On Feb 10, 2016
patches689:


Shorta has been abandoned in more recent T-90 builds - its practically useless.

Russia has accepted that the T90 is obsolete after it got thrashed in the Thai MBT trials by both the Chinese and Ukranian offerings.

Hence plans to upgrade all of them to T90AM/SM(export designation)

Same way the original versions of Abrams, Markerva, and Challenger tanks are need upgrade like T-90, that does not make them obsolete, they remain 3rd generation tanks, but after 25 years they are obsolescent....meaning becoming obsolete gradually, but not yet obsolete.

T-90 MS meets the latest tech standards worldwide, western upgrades are better only in having full composite armour while T-90 includes new tech ERA armour.

Chinese and Ukrainian new tanks have seen no war to test them except in manufacurers laboratory tests. Customers are complaining about Chinese MBT 2000 mechanical reliability. All those demo shows about weapons performance are not real war to prove whose equipment is better. No country's in the world has had it's tanks tested in battle like Russian tanks, the tanks that face missiles in real war are the real battle tested tanks, all other tanks are only good so far, in theory, so put them into practical battle fields of real war so we can judge their performance against anti-tank missiles fired by hidden and intelligent enemies, not demo shows or laboratory experiments.

PHOTO : ALGERIAN T-90 JOBLESS IN ALGERIA DOING PARADE SHOWS, BUT NEEDED IN SOMALIA TO SAVE LIVES IN WAR

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:32pm On Feb 10, 2016
kenyan soldiers early morning exercise chanting while jogging

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PizuUgsoaAU
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 7:45pm On Feb 10, 2016
patches689:


All ready knocked one out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JClrxrMqdbM

This is old news.

It's actually no news, it's propaganda not news. There is no proof that the tank in that video is a T-90 tanks, the image so far away and clouded view, nobody can identify that as a T-90, it could equally be T-72 or T-80 tank.

There is no official and reliable confirmation of any T-90 destroyed in any war.

Anyways, Abrams tank, Merkava tank, and Challenger tanks have all been destroyed at one time or the other, and hey the mighty British Challenger tank was destroyed by a mere RPG not even an ATGM !!!

Stop misleading people with Syrian rebels' propaganda that cannot be proved.

PHOTO : ALGERIAN ARMY TANK, WASTE OF POWER, WHILE AU LACKS SUCH EQUIPMENT IN AFRICAN WAR ZONES.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 7:53pm On Feb 10, 2016
africaken:
i could also say that's a T-72,who could say its not !

I have also asked him to prove its a T-90....or he should stop feeding people with rebels propaganda that is not confirmed by any reliable source. The guy gets to swallow anything he sees on internet and cares less about valid proof. Illiterate terrorists are smarter than him.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 7:54pm On Feb 10, 2016
agaugust:


Same way the original versions of Abrams, Markerva, and Challenger tanks are need upgrade like T-90, that does not make them obsolete, they remain 3rd generation tanks, but after 25 years they are obsolescent....meaning becoming obsolete gradually, but not yet obsolete.

T-90 MS meets the latest tech standards worldwide, western upgrades are better only in having full composite armour while T-90 includes new tech ERA armour.

Chinese and Ukrainian new tanks have seen no war to test them except in manufacurers laboratory tests. Customers are complaining about Chinese MBT 2000 mechanical reliability. All those demo shows about weapons performance are not real war to prove whose equipment is better. No country's in the world has had it's tanks tested in battle like Russian tanks, the tanks that face missiles in real war are the real battle tested tanks, all other tanks are only good so far, in theory, so put them into practical battle fields of real war so we can judge their performance against anti-tank missiles fired by hidden and intelligent enemies, not demo shows or laboratory experiments.

You raise a valid point.

But feild testing is designed to be as realistic as possible and the fact is that the current T90 got beaten by the T-84 Oplot.

And that its performance was bad enough to push Russia into taking Rubles away from the T-14 and re-investing them in the T90.

My only conclusion is that the T90 has been pushed about as far as it can go, and is based on a fundamentally flawed platform (T-72)

Buying them now... with the expectation that they could be in service for 20-30 years is a bad investment.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 7:56pm On Feb 10, 2016
agaugust:


It's actually no news, it's propaganda not news. There is no proof that the tank in that video is a T-90 tanks, the image so far away and clouded view, nobody can identify that as a T-90, it could equally be T-72 or T-80 tank.

There is no official and reliable confirmation of any T-90 destroyed in any war.

Anyways, Abrams tank, Merkava tank, and Challenger tanks have all been destroyed at one time or the other, and hey the mighty British Challenger tank was destroyed by a mere RPG not even an ATGM !!!

Stop misleading people with Syrian rebels' propaganda that cannot be proved.
Soon you'll be crying about "agreesive posts".

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 8:00pm On Feb 10, 2016
patches689:


- heavily sloped turret shape
- you can see the RCWS module.

aka: The only two ways you can tell a T90 apart from a T72 grin grin grin


Dusty cloudy film with very poor clarity of view. Who told you that is the RCWS ? It looks very much like one turret roof hatch open and flipped upwards, and beside it a coaxial roof top machine gun with big ammo box attached to it like on a T-72.

Nothing clear in that clouded image, looks like T-72 as much. So no proof, obscure images are unreliable as evidence. Get us a clear proof. Meanwhile, India buys more T-90 that you think is obsolete and has useless Shtora self defence according to your imagination. You are smarter than Indian army generals?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 8:01pm On Feb 10, 2016
agaugust:


It's actually no news, it's propaganda not news. There is no proof that the tank in that video is a T-90 tanks, the image so far away and clouded view, nobody can identify that as a T-90, it could equally be T-72 or T-80 tank.

There is no official and reliable confirmation of any T-90 destroyed in any war.

Anyways, Abrams tank, Merkava tank, and Challenger tanks have all been destroyed at one time or the other, and hey the mighty British Challenger tank was destroyed by a mere RPG not even an ATGM !!!

Stop misleading people with Syrian rebels' propaganda that cannot be proved.

You can see the turret shape and the iconic RCWS quite clearly

Challenger has never been destroyed by enemy action and has only been penetrated once (driver lost a toe). One Challenger survived over 40 RPG and ATGM hits.

Abrams tanks we see getting penned in Iraq are M1A1 which are now over 34 years old and lack the DU +Graphite (DU = Depleted Uranium) layer.

Performance speaks for itself, during the entire Iraq/Afghanistan of ~14 years no single M1A2 or M1A2 SEP was ever penetrated by ATGM's with the only crew loss being from a tank that drove off a bridge into a river.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 8:02pm On Feb 10, 2016
agaugust:


Nothing clear in that clouded image, looks like T-72 as much. So no proof, obscure images are unreliable as evidence. Get us a clear proof. Meanwhile, India buys more T-90 that you think is obsolete and useless Shtora self defence. You are smarter than Indian army generals?

1. You can see the armor config on the turret
2. You can see the RCWS on the turret roof

Russia abandoned Shorta - I think their Generals are smarter than the Indians
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:06pm On Feb 10, 2016
denisfidha:
Why would the Kenya-air force specifically 'white-out' what looks like a runway in Laikipia airbase and leave everything else including all the other barracks, open to google maps satellite images(public).

The runway looks bigger than the current one, and since they left a small part, you can see the width, So whats the point of having google-maps hide the runway? can markings on a runway have specific meaning in-terms of types of aircraft that can land?
we seriously need to expand and upgrade the infrastructure at Laikipia airbase,most of the hangars are old and if in future we need to procure 4th generation jets,airlift transport planes e.t.c this should be one of the biggest and modern air bases in kenya. moi airbase has no growth potential due to the expanding Nairobi urbanization.

with the growing geo-thermal energy generation expansion,this would enable the growth of an indigenous,self-sufficient aviation defense sector.which will also spur the growth the growth of our civil aviation sector


 
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 8:39pm On Feb 10, 2016
africaken:
kenyan soldier


Please advise Kenya and Uganda to replace all 5.56mm and 7.62mm light machine guns on armoured vehicles deployed for anti-terrorism ops except for SF that want very light arms for close quarters combat and can mount 4 LMGs on one vehicle facing all 4 directions and backing them up with hand held MGLs.

Minimum calibre for regular infantry should be 12.7mm DshK, but better to do 14.5mm x 1 ZPU, or else terrorists will do yöur troops much damage with superior firepower in calibre and range. Nigeria learned this big lesson the hard way.

PHOTO 1 : AFRICAN PEACE KEEPERS, MOROCCO IN IVORY COAST, PIC 1

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZAR: 8:48pm On Feb 10, 2016
agaugust:


Please advise Kenya and Uganda to replace all 5.56mm and 7.62mm light machine guns on armoured vehicles deployed for anti-terrorism ops except for SF that want very light arms for close quarters combat and can mount 4 LMGs on one vehicle facing all 4 directions and backing them up with hand held MGLs.

Minimum calibre for regular infantry should be 12.7mm DshK, but better to do 14.5mm x 1 ZPU, or else terrorists will do yöur troops much damage with superior firepower in calibre and range. Nigeria learned this big lesson the hard way.

PHOTO 1 : AFRICAN PEACE KEEPERS, MOROCCO IN IVORY COAST, PIC 1
You never run out of jokes. grin grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 8:58pm On Feb 10, 2016
patches689:


You can see the turret shape and the iconic RCWS quite clearly

Challenger has never been destroyed by enemy action and has only been penetrated once (driver lost a toe). One Challenger survived over 40 RPG and ATGM hits.

Abrams tanks we see getting penned in Iraq are M1A1 which are now over 34 years old and lack the DU +Graphite (DU = Depleted Uranium) layer.

Performance speaks for itself, during the entire Iraq/Afghanistan of ~14 years no single M1A2 or M1A2 SEP was ever penetrated by ATGM's with the only crew loss being from a tank that drove off a bridge into a river.

You have no official report of any confirmed defeat of T-90 tank in its 25 year old history. Your only 'source' is a clouded video of rebel propaganda and courts dont admit obscured poorly visible evidence....some upgraded T-72 and T-80 have similar hardware of T-90 mounted on them externally.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 9:02pm On Feb 10, 2016
patches689:


1. You can see the armor config on the turret
2. You can see the RCWS on the turret roof

Russia abandoned Shorta - I think their Generals are smarter than the Indians

1. You can see nothing clearly in that cloudy video
2. Nothing clear to see in that dusty and foggy film

2. Who told you that is the RCWS ? It looks very much like one turret roof hatch open and flipped upwards, and beside it a coaxial roof top machine gun with big ammo box attached to it like on a T-72.

Shtora is still very much in Russian army service in large numbers. Indian army generals are not fools.

PHOTO : T-90 ALGERIA, ROAMING AROUND THE DESERT, HAVING NO WORK TO DO.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 9:48pm On Feb 10, 2016
Any Tiger elite among these guys?

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by agaugust: 9:58pm On Feb 10, 2016
Henry240:
Nigerian Navy's Fleet Re-capitalisation Efforts continues.

- NNS Ekun,

- NNS Siri,

- NNS Damisa all three(3) vessels are currently undergoing an overhaul process at the Nigerian Navaldockyard Limited



*P.S, it also seems the Nigerian Navy has built a small 12 meters craft. The boat is clearly visible on a kneel to the right of this photo.

Chief Henry, can you explain the strange armament on the two boats having 2 detached adjacent main guns? No known Nigerian vessel fields such guns and they look like remote controlled. Is that the replacement for the single main foredeck gun of the Ekun class?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 10:20pm On Feb 10, 2016
agaugust:


Chief Henry, can you explain the strange armament on the two boats having 2 detached adjacent main guns? No known Nigerian vessel fields such guns and they look like remote controlled. Is that the replacement for the single main foredeck gun of the Ekun class?

They are manned, emmerson electric 30mm

They are to the aft of the vessel
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:25pm On Feb 10, 2016
agaugust:


Chief Henry, can you explain the strange armament on the two boats having 2 detached adjacent main guns? No known Nigerian vessel fields such guns and they look like remote controlled. Is that the replacement for the single main foredeck gun of the Ekun class?

They are manned 30mm. They are a standard armament of all our missile crafts of that era. They are a secondary armament.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:32pm On Feb 10, 2016
MikeCZAR:
You never run out of jokes. grin grin grin grin

Agaugust is right. Minimum caliber for the infantry man should be a 12.7mm. All MRAPs, LAVs and Gun-trucks in Nigeria carry a 12.7mm minimum. Firepower wins you wars.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:21pm On Feb 10, 2016
Tinfoil:
I don't support this guys in any way. This is just to show that there is a different point of view from what is being put out there officially. Seems like they are operating in the Kenya national parks. This is an old video, I have emailed you the el adde attack video afrcaken.

https://videos.files./rSjs99dZ/e1b8a5arakat-al-shabc481b-al-mujc481hidc4abn-e2809cfrom-the-fortified-strongholds-of-glory-3e280b3_dvd.mp4
that tall white terrorist Thomas Evans is dead,killed by KDF .Tin foil would like to send you a E-mail,but your not connected blah blah blah where is the message .you have already posted several provocative video,why dont you just do the same and stop nagging me with this so called phantom video
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:07am On Feb 11, 2016
Tinfoil:
this is for you africaken and your updf friends

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Tin foil the somali jihadist,"i dont support them blah blah blah".i know your conniving kind.the arab wanabe

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:09am On Feb 11, 2016
Tinfoil:


If you stop bitching like the teenage school girl, on her period, you are I would

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 12:16am On Feb 11, 2016
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