analice107:

Sis. This is how I understand what the OP is saying to mean.
When we submit to God, or let me say, wen we obey God's instructions with regards to our husbands, we will obey and submit to our husbands completely.
Ephe. 5:22 says, wives, submit yourselves unto your husbands as unto the Lord.
Submission is obedience, yea? You can't obey him you don't submit to. You can't submit to whom you do not love, you can't love whom do not obey, you can't obey whom you do not respect. All of these attributes leads to reverence and honour. This is what we are also enjoined to give to God.
If we obey God, we will obey our husbands. When you have the spirit of submission in you, you will submit to God and to man. But if you don't, you can't give what you don't have.
Remember that law of submission was put there by God in the first place.
Am not sure, the OP means that women should worship their husbands and pay obeisance as they would do to Yahweh.
OR is that what you mean OP?

sukkot:

Ishilove:

It seems you just discovered an emoticon pack. You sha want to show off

sukkot:
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Ishilove:

Show a sister the way na

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Ishilove:

I'm kinda getting older cartoons, you dig?

sukkot:
buahaha shake the haters off with haterade. its like this, anything religion always comes with haters. i have found that out

malvisguy212:
you know, we have many kind of prophet, like prophet of doom, weeping prophet and many other. But you bros, I call you comedy prophet. Weldon.

sukkot:
my bros malvisguy212 i troway salute sir. we remain ever loyal

malvisguy212:
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MostHigh:
Presidente I greet u.

The head of man is Christ and man is the head of the woman.

Why is Christ not the head of both man and woman?

Those with the wisdom pls answer.

analice107:

That's what happens when you tell yourself that you are too smart and the Bible is for fools. Wives were glorified slaves yet they controlled their husbands.
Adam ate from the hands of Eve.
Abraham slept with a slave girl and plunged the world into Islamic chaos, because his wife said so.
Isaac was deceived by Rebecca, by making him give the blessing of the first son to the second.
Jacob, had four women he slept with because his wives insisted on it.
Boaz married Ruth even when it wasn't his original desire.
Esther over turned the verdict of the Persian Empire, something, not even the king himself could do.
Bearsheba made David crown Solomon king, even when Solomon was not close to being am heir apparent.
Solomon backslide from following his God because of the wives he loved. He went as far as building temples to Idol by the temple of the most high God.
Delila, brought the great Samson down.
Deborah let a whole nations army while men coward behind her shivering.
Jezebel decided what happened in the nation of Israel while King Ahab sulked like a baby.
The Shunamite woman caused a great change in her home, by prevailing on her husband to welcome a prophet of God in their home.
Abigail saved her home from being destroyed by Davids army.
Shd I go on?
So women in the Bible were glorified slaves?
Aren't your parents Christians? Is your mum a glorified slave in your house? because it's the Bible we are following nah.

Ishilove:

Makes sense, although the OP seems to be saying a different thing entirely. He says we should honour our husband who is our God in flesh

sukkot:
Indeed my kind Sir, Indeed. women, worship your man for he is thy lord. ( lord means authority )

MrPresident1:


The onus of proof is on you, no comment on this thread is hidden.

One read it and you agreed with her, you read it and you disagreed with it.

analice107:

Sis. This is how I understand what the OP is saying to mean.
When we submit to God, or let me say, wen we obey God's instructions with regards to our husbands, we will obey and submit to our husbands completely.
Ephe. 5:22 says, wives, submit yourselves unto your husbands as unto the Lord.
Submission is obedience, yea? You can't obey him you don't submit to. You can't submit to whom you do not love, you can't love whom do not obey, you can't obey whom you do not respect. All of these attributes leads to reverence and honour. This is what we are also enjoined to give to God.
If we obey God, we will obey our husbands. When you have the spirit of submission in you, you will submit to God and to man. But if you don't, you can't give what you don't have.
Remember that law of submission was put there by God in the first place.
Am not sure, the OP means that women should worship their husbands and pay obeisance as they would do to Yahweh.
OR is that what you mean OP?

Ishilove:

I agree with her interpretation of the scriptures which you used in your op.

I don't agree that our husband is our god. We are to submit to his authority as our head, however you say he is our 'god' in flesh. That is you twisting the Word. A god is a deity, man is not.

You say we should give our offerings to our husbands because we connect to God through him. Do you realise how twisted that sounds?

Woman, submit yourselves to your husband as unto the Lord. This means be obedient to your husband the way you will obey God your maker. No where did I see that we should turn him to our 'god' and give him 'god benefits' like worship, spiritual reverence etc

Please, it is a sin to add or subtract from the word of God

Ishilove:
MrPresident1, I believe you just wanted to stir up controversy with your choice of words. You very well know that the scripture you quoted is straightforward but you use semantics to cause people to argue unnecessarily.

MrPresident1:


Ephesians 5:23-24
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.

Every man in any position of authority is a husband to the people under him. I understand your point completely, a faithful man who can find?

Paul says a man is his wife's salvation, the body is the woman, a good man is the salvation of his wife.

Ishilove:

Christ is the saviour of the body, which is the church. Not man the saviour of his wife. How can a man be a 'saviour'? The only saviour is Christ.

You have given that passage a whole new interpretation

MrPresident1:


Remember Paul was talking to Christian men in Ephesians, regenerated born again men, so we are talking about regenerated God fearing men here. A regenerated God fearing man will guide and direct the path of his woman, he will show God to her.

Christ is the husband of the church, the Church is the body of Christ.
The man is the husband of the woman, the woman is the body of the man.

QED.

MrPresident1:


To worship means to acknowledge worth, acknowledgement of worth. You don't agree that your husband is your god? lol. You worship God by submitting to to your husband. Can you see God? No, but the man he has placed over you is His physical representation, so your submission to him is your worship of God. Can you worship God abstractly? How do you worship what you do not see? Maybe you should look up anthropomorphism, but I digress. How do you measure the 'substantiality' of what is unseen? The heavens and the earth declares the greatness of the eternally invisible God.

Marriage is the smallest unit of the relationship between God and man, this relationship is replicated in every strata of society, God is the husband of Buhari, Buhari is the husband of his Ministers, Ministers are the husbands of perm. secs, perm secs are the husbands of directors and so on... until the man is the husband of the woman. When God is the head, as in a God fearing man because the ways of a God fearing man is directed by God, it will have a trickle down effect, and submission to the head is the veneration of God. How do you obey God your maker if not by obeying His commandments?

Your husband is your god as Adam was god to Eve, as Abraham was god to Sarah, submission to your god, is submission to God!

Yes! Give your offerings to your husband because you connect to God through him not your pastor!

Anyway, it is the quality of the men of nowadays that informs you position, it is not your fault really, I am sure you will have no qualms whatsoever in submitting completely to a god fearing man who will guide and direct you completely in the ways of YAH.

MrPresident1:


To worship means to acknowledge worth, acknowledgement of worth. You don't agree that your husband is your god? lol. You worship God by submitting to to your husband. Can you see God? No, but the man he has placed over you is His physical representation, so your submission to him is your worship of God. Can you worship God abstractly? How do you worship what you do not see? Maybe you should look up anthropomorphism, but I digress. How do you measure the 'substantiality' of what is unseen? The heavens and the earth declares the greatness of the eternally invisible God.

Marriage is the smallest unit of the relationship between God and man, this relationship is replicated in every strata of society, God is the husband of Buhari, Buhari is the husband of his Ministers, Ministers are the husbands of perm. secs, perm secs are the husbands of directors and so on... until the man is the husband of the woman. When God is the head, as in a God fearing man because the ways of a God fearing man is directed by God, it will have a trickle down effect, and submission to the head is the veneration of God. How do you obey God your maker if not by obeying His commandments?

Your husband is your god as Adam was god to Eve, as Abraham was god to Sarah, submission to your god, is submission to God!

Yes! Give your offerings to your husband because you connect to God through him not your pastor!

Anyway, it is the quality of the men of nowadays that informs you position, it is not your fault really, I am sure you will have no qualms whatsoever in submitting completely to a god fearing man who will guide and direct you completely in the ways of YAH.

Ishilove:

But how does that make him her 'god'? How does that mean we should give him offerings?

Accept that you made heretical statements by equating a mortal man to God

MrPresident1:


Can you see God? How do you give your offerings to God?

MrPresident1:


Uncle MostHigh, greetings to you.

Lemme hazard a guess, it is a progression, an hierarchical progression

Woman-Man-Christ-God

Besides, the woman cannot be removed from the man, a man is a full complement of male and female, inside the man is the woman, so in effect Christ being the head of the man is also the head of the woman (in the man).

MrPresident1:


Worship is derived etymologically from Worthship meaning: worthiness, acknowledgement of worth.

To worship is not necessarily to bow and scrape before someone, but rather to acknowledge worth. To worship your husband is to acknowledge his worth as your head and your submission to him is your veneration and adulation of God.

Greetings chief sukkot, happy weekend!

MrPresident1:


This here, these powerful words, aptly spoken and fitly joined together in beautiful symphonous progression is the fitting completion to this thread. Analice107, may YAH continue to shine the light of knowledge on you. Blessed is the man who will call (or is calling already) wife, he has a jewel in his hands, he is a blessed man indeed.

MrPresident1:


George Weah my friend where have you been? Long time Pally, I don thought you been captured by aliens from Uranus

You know, unto the pure everything is pure, right? But unto the impure, there can be a range of interpretations for even the sheerest of statements