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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:07am On Feb 15, 2016
Horlawoomey:


I mean to start converting ft to mm, pound to kg, stone and ounce to gram in order to visualise the context of what is being taught may be time consuming.


Yea you are right. it can sometimes be frustrating. Regards.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:29am On Feb 15, 2016
Dominionng:


SOMETIMES he uses it for some of the partitioning.
SOMETIMES he uses it for all of the partitioning.
OTHER-TIMES sheetrock ma take over! wink

Oga I like the pics of the houses you posted.its really an eye opener for me.pls are the materials used easily accessible and affordable? Do you mind sharing how much each unit can gulp from start to finish?

This is not about making any yeye point o. I just wan learn o

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brokensword: 11:29am On Feb 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:
"David Spence says: June 7, 2013 at 8:11 am
We build timber framed houses in Bulgaria and are now starting the same project in Ghana . I find the main reason sheetrock has not been used here is ignorance. Most people have no idea what it is. the same applies to timber framed housing, fast, low cost, cool and quiet. The main obstacle is once again ignorance. timber framed housing works well from Florida to Alaska, yet people will tell you that timber houses will not work here in Ghana because of our climate…yet there are many examples of timber hosing in Ghana built in the 1940s which are still in good shape despite negligence. I guess the technical colleges are still teaching old outdated technology."

"Bassey Basi says: February 17, 2013 at 3:32 am
I live in California and i have been working as a taper by trade for about 10 years now. because i am a finisher by trade, it gives me insight to proper framing and hanging (drywall) means and methods. i specialize in hospital construction and in so doing, i’m bound to highly detailed and meticulous procedures which would be very useful in this forum. i know for a fact of life that drywall construction is doable in Nigeria and Africa as a whole. its no different than drywall construction used in florida or Texas. I look forward to a time when one can purchase drywall produced in Nigeria (without having to ship it from china) andwhen that time comes, i’ll be more than happy to show the skeptics how useful and workable drywall is compared to the block finish of interior walls as it is now."

A required reading for any Nairaland builder and homeowner, imho.

http://www.solvingafrica.org/archives/918


like the old saying, Information is power, Nigerian building industry needs total rebranding, and its my dream to see it come true. using the same boring routine every single day.
What worked then on 7’s doesn’t even work on
7’s anymore, Let alone 9’s or 10’s.i don't want to believe in the old saying that Nigeria is far from modern civilization!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:41am On Feb 15, 2016
brokensword:



like the old saying, Information is power, Nigerian building industry needs total rebranding, and its my dream to see it come true. using the same boring routine every single day.
What worked then on 7’s doesn’t even work on
7’s anymore, Let alone 9’s or 10’s.i don't want to believe in the old saying that Nigeria is far from modern civilization!

@Brokensword am sure you understand my point that it wasnt to discourage you about trying to do things in a different way or go Yankee..it was just me asking if it will work in Naija or not.
You guys have shown me it will and without doubt now I believe it should.
This is what conversation should be about. We learn everyday. Abi?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brokensword: 12:33pm On Feb 15, 2016
3strike:


@Brokensword am sure you understand my point that it wasnt to discourage you about trying to do things in a different way or go Yankee..it was just me asking if it will work in Naija or not.
You guys have shown me it will and without doubt now I believe it should.
This is what conversation should be about. We learn everyday. Abi?

oh yeah ogami 3strike,that's why I crave for your indulgence as per research and contribution towards my quest,I believe our future posterity will benefit from such program!best technical program/course/skills suitable for our building industry (case study US)thanks !
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:07pm On Feb 15, 2016
brokensword:



like the old saying, Information is power, Nigerian building industry needs total rebranding, and its my dream to see it come true. using the same boring routine every single day.
What worked then on 7’s doesn’t even work on
7’s anymore, Let alone 9’s or 10’s.i don't want to believe in the old saying that Nigeria is far from modern civilization!

This is why I'm excited about your plan and will continue to support anyone that's willing to step out of the box.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:06pm On Feb 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


This is why I'm excited about your plan and will continue to support anyone that's willing to step out of the box.


@ Brokensword: looks like Egunmogaji oko afusa is offering you a full scholarship ride to any builder's skol of your choice in the U.S. you just need to read between the lines grin

Congrats bro!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brag3: 5:20pm On Feb 15, 2016
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

3strike:



@ Brokensword: looks like Egunmogaji oko afusa is offering you a full scholarship ride to any builder's skol of your choice in the U.S. you just need to read between the lines grin

Congrats bro!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 7:34pm On Feb 15, 2016
Check out this $900 beauty of a Home in Detroit, MI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSTRrtVd3sM
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:57pm On Feb 15, 2016
Empiree:
Check out this $900 beauty of a Home in Detroit, MI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSTRrtVd3sM

Skeptical, have heard rumors of large back owed property taxes.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:59pm On Feb 15, 2016
3strike:



@ Brokensword: looks like Egunmogaji oko afusa is offering you a full scholarship ride to any builder's skol of your choice in the U.S. you just need to read between the lines grin

Congrats bro!

I can't wait till months later when someone else goes on a rant and accuses me of being a Burger King burger flipper that promised to sponsor a Nairalander to US building school grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 8:06pm On Feb 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Skeptical, have heard rumors of large back owed property taxes.
Yea, sure. That's why one needs to do "Due Diligence" carefully before bidding.

Interesting to know that this house had $3500 back taxes on it at the time of auction. All paid off now.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:12pm On Feb 15, 2016
Empiree:
Yea, sure. That's why one needs to do "Due Diligence" carefully before bidding.

Interesting to know that this house had $3500 back taxes on it at the time of auction. All paid off now.

So the $900 title was a misnomer.

I still continue to be skeptical at the $4,400 price.

Looking at that hood in the video, even that ramshackle should still command in the $50ks

But like you said DD is the key but that's not a $900 purchase.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 8:21pm On Feb 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


So the $900 title was a misnomer.

I still continue to be skeptical at the $4,400 price.

Looking at that hood in the video, even that ramshackle should still command in the $50ks

But like you said DD is the key but that's not a $900 purchase.
It's 900 bru. You see the guy also was surprised seeing it. It was bought on bidassest. Sales are final.

To be honest, it was actually bought for $300. $600 is fees and Quit claim deed preparation. Houses at the auction like this are quit claim deed. You own the house forever. No mortgage. Just pay tax to avoid red flag
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:27pm On Feb 15, 2016
Empiree:
It's 900 bru. You see the guy also was surprised seeing it. It was bought on bidassest. Sales are final.

To be honest, it was actually bought for $300. $600 is fees and Quit claim deed preparation. Houses at the auction like this are quit claim deed. You own the house forever. No mortgage. Just pay tax to avoid red flag

I'll research the sale price and post it later.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:31pm On Feb 15, 2016
Last sold price was $60,000 but not sure if it was this sale but will continue to search

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 8:38pm On Feb 15, 2016
I don't believe this ever sold for $900 plus $3,500 taxes based on my just cursory research.

If push comes to shove I can always call an agent there but don't want to waste anyone's time since I'm not a buyer.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 8:49pm On Feb 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:
I don't believe this ever sold for $900 plus $3,500 taxes based on my just cursory research.

If push comes to shove I can always call an agent there but don't want to waste anyone's time since I'm not a buyer.
Lol....you dont believe ?. Well, i bought it actually in 2013. No worries, i got info for you to proof it.

Man, you dey research ooo. you dug up the house info fast fast.. Thats my friend in blue jacket. We went to check it in April 2014. Yes, i bought it for the price in the pix grin

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:12pm On Feb 15, 2016
Empiree:
Lol....you dont believe ?. Well, i bought it actually in 2013. No worries, i got info for you to proof it.

Man, you dey research ooo. you dug up the house info fast fast.. Thats my friend in blue jacket. We went to check it in April 2014. Yes, i bought it for the price in the pix grin

I don't doubt the pic you posted but I'm from Missouri the show me state.

Show me official escrow paperwork please. That will remove any and all ambiguity.

Thanks.

PS: I know that you'll provide the info requested so I congratulate you ahead of time for a savvy purchase.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dominionng(m): 9:22pm On Feb 15, 2016
mufutau55:


Oga mi. How many bedroom(s) is each of those building and what is the estimated cost, moderately finished.
I see a low cost Mini Estate in my dream...

Hajji M.

These are 2 bedrooms Sir. There are sections for 4bedrooms too. Estimated cost to finish(excluding 'foundation' which is a 'wet-system') for this particular project is 8m and 14m for the 2bedrooms and 4bedrooms bungalow respectively.

A lot of factors can determine the cost also, like sidings, acoustic walls, armour walls, suspended walls etc...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 9:28pm On Feb 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I don't doubt the pic you posted but I'm from Missouri the show me state.

Show me official escrow paperwork please. That will remove any and all ambiguity.

Thanks.

PS: I know that you'll provide the info requested so I congratulate you ahead of time for a savvy purchase.
grin lol....

Yea, you dont need all that. Seller provides Quick Claim Deed and that you take to treasurer office to register in your name within 45days. You own the house.......FOREVER. I remeber they sent me escrow paperwork one-time and that was it. See, Detroit is trying to get rid of those houses. They are sick and tired of vacant and abandoned houses. Their citizens are not smart enough to take advantage of that. Folks from other states do. I do not have access to info u requested at this point cus i am not home. I only boarded it up for now till i get few $$ to fix and start using it.

At least u own it for now maybe....just maybe the law may change in the future. Thats not visible now. They just want taxes paid. The hungry about that. NO MORTGAGE grin grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:30pm On Feb 15, 2016
Empiree:
grin lol....

Yea, you dont need all that. Seller provides Quick Claim Deed and that you take to treasurer office to register in your name within 45days. You own the house.......FOREVER. I remeber they sent me escrow paperwork one-time and that was it. See, Detroit is trying to get rid of those houses. They are sick and tired of vacant and abandoned houses. Their citizens are not smart enough to take advantage of that. Folks from other states do. I do not have access to info u requested at this point cus i am not home. I only boarded it up for now till i get few $$ to fix and start using it.

At least u own it for now maybe....just maybe the law may change in the future. Thats not visible now. They just want taxes paid. The hungry about that. NO MORTGAGE grin grin grin

Okiedokie then.

I did a little background on the bid company, not very favorable.

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/bid4assetscom-c208016.html

Good luck Sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 9:38pm On Feb 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Okiedokie then.

I did a little background on the bid company, not very favorable.

http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/bid4assetscom-c208016.html

Good luck Sir.
You will always see complaints about anything and everything. Even if you google "complaints about Burger King". I am 100% sure something would come up.

I think u are in doubt.I am the freaking man paying the freaking taxes on it. God go fire them if they wanna do sh*t. My original name is already on the title/deed. I registered it myself in 2013. Like we said earlier, DD is the key. As you could see from the auction site, many were skeptical...thats why u dont see many bids. Sounds too good to be true. I didnt give a fig leaf and decided to just bid and won grin. It was after that I sent the guy in the video to verify it. I didnt even do much due DD.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 9:44pm On Feb 15, 2016
Empiree:
You will always see complaints about anything and everything. Even if you google "complaints about Burger King". I am 100% sure something would come up.

I think u are in doubt.I am the freaking man paying the freaking taxes on it. God go fire them if they wanna do sh*t. My original name is already on the title/deed. I registered it myself in 2013. Like we said earlier, DD is the key. As you could see from the auction site, many were skeptical...thats why u dont see many bids. Sounds too good to be true. I didnt give a fig leaf and decided to just bid and won grin. It was after that I sent the guy in the video to verify it. I didnt even do much due DD.

I'll donate $20 to your favorite charity when these two things occur.

1) post escrow paperwork showing the sale price and the title deed

2) post video of you or proof of your tenant or sale to another entity.

Once again congrats in lieu of the evidences.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 10:12pm On Feb 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


I'll donate $20 to your favorite charity when these two things occur.

1) post escrow paperwork showing the sale price and the title deed
Alright......I know i have stuff they gave me from treasurer office. When i have the chance i iwll post it but i will erase my name. I know u so much doubt.

I went to study the course in NJ with Tax Lien company....thats where i found out. They said it is not common and not many know about it. There are two of them. You can choose whichever u want. Tax lien or Tax Deed. I opted for Tax Deed. Thats easy for me to understand. Tax lien is complicated


2) post video of you or proof of your tenant or sale to another entity.

Once again congrats in lieu of the evidences.
Na, the house is still vacant. No tenant. I have to fix it. I dont have its time yet. As for video of me, oh well, i hope i remember when i go there again. I will shoot my video. But i took picture of my friend on blue jacket in April 2014. That was the last time we went there. If you would dig a little further, you would see more pictures of him around the house. I took 4 of them i think. I want the winter to slow down before i head there again. I will mention "Egunmogaji" to confirm grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 10:40pm On Feb 15, 2016
brokensword:



like the old saying, Information is power, Nigerian building industry needs total rebranding, and its my dream to see it come true. using the same boring routine every single day.
What worked then on 7’s doesn’t even work on
7’s anymore, Let alone 9’s or 10’s.i don't want to believe in the old saying that Nigeria is far from modern civilization!

I think information is easier now, the Internet have made it possible to leaen new ideas from culture or society several thousands of kilometers apart.

The routine are not boring but lay down procedures on how best a house can be built.

Innovations are needed in the building construction section and these innovation should be aiming at reducing cost and building more environmentally friendly houses for our people.

Some many iniatives are taking place in other third world countries like China, India, South Africa etc. I think that is the future.

The question should be how do we build cheaper, better, faster, more environmentally friendly and finer.
How do we build a meter square of a wall less than N2000 naira, how do we build a meter square of wall less than N2000.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 11:00pm On Feb 15, 2016
abdulwastecx:


I think information is easier now, the Internet have made it possible to leaen new ideas from culture or society several thousands of kilometers apart.

The routine are not boring but lay down procedures on how best a house can be built.

Innovations are needed in the building construction section and these innovation should be aiming at reducing cost and building more environmentally friendly houses for our people.

Some many iniatives are taking place in other third world countries like China, India, South Africa etc. I think that is the future.

The question should be how do we build cheaper, better, faster, more environmentally friendly and finer.
How do we build a meter square of a wall less than N2000 naira, how do we build a meter square of wall less than N2000.

Does finer include the previously mentioned straight walls and plumb floors? grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:06pm On Feb 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Does finer include the previously mentioned straight walls and plumb floors? grin

Yes of course

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 12:24am On Feb 16, 2016
Dominionng:

These are 2 bedrooms Sir. There are sections for 4bedrooms too. Estimated cost to finish(excluding 'foundation' which is a 'wet-system')
for this particular project is 8m and 14m for the 2bedrooms and 4bedrooms bungalow respectively.
A lot of factors can determine the cost also, like sidings, acoustic walls, armour walls, suspended walls etc...

Thank you Sir. Yes, of course, the terrain and finishing will decide the cost...

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:37am On Feb 16, 2016
@egunmogaji,
I think empiree is telling the truth,a friend bought one in 2010 for $3000,I couldn't believe it then,I was full of regret because he told me about it then,but I was just like you are now,although then Detroit was bankrupt,so they needed people to wake it up to live,however the rule then,was that you must live in the house then.

I love to try my hand on one of those,if the opportunity arise again.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 12:45am On Feb 16, 2016
euromilion:
@egunmogaji,
I think empiree is telling the truth,a friend bought one in 2010 for $3000,I couldn't believe it then,I was full of regret because he told me about it then,but I was just like you are now,although then Detroit was bankrupt,so they needed people to wake it up to live,however the rule then,was that you must live in the house then.

I love to try my hand on one of those,if the opportunity arise again.

Of course he's telling the truth. I have been reading the back and forth and shaking my head. So many Nigerians that I know travelled from Georgia and NY/NJ area and bought many properties in Detroit between 2008 and 2014. They have started getting the reward for their foresight. I thought about the same thing too but backed out of it. No regret though.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:57am On Feb 16, 2016
euromilion:
@egunmogaji,
I think empiree is telling the truth,a friend bought one in 2010 for $3000,I couldn't believe it then,I was full of regret because he told me about it then,but I was just like you are now,although then Detroit was bankrupt,so they needed people to wake it up to live,however the rule then,was that you must live in the house then.

I love to try my hand on one of those,if the opportunity arise again.

I'm not saying he's not telling the truth and I think he's been very gentlemanly about my doubts.

In any case he'll present the evidence in due time, if he cares, and his charity will be $20 richer.

Sounds simple enough grin

PS: Glad to have provided some of this evenings reading fodder coupled with neck exercises.

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