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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by asha80(m): 12:26pm On Feb 18, 2016
vedaxcool:


Reading with your eyes close is not considered reading, it is called imagining, Lagos State is a city, as a city in Nigeria it has the largest land mass compared to any other city in the country.
Lagos state or city or whatever you want to call it and yobe which one deserves more infrastructure according to the heading of this thread and op concern about distribution of infrastructure?

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by simplycarro: 12:27pm On Feb 18, 2016
Emekamex:


Your excuse that it was built in 1896 by the British is a flawed logic in that the British then were the equivalent of the present day FG; Nigeria was their colony and they used our wealth as a country to carry out those projects.

Which wealth? There was no oil back then! And I can't recollect the East having an agricultural development to generate such funds to build ports in Lagos.

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by omonnakoda: 12:30pm On Feb 18, 2016
Emekamex:


Your excuse that it was built in 1896 by the British is a flawed logic, in that the British then were the equivalent of the present day FG; Nigeria was their colony and they used our wealth as a country to carry out those projects.
Nigeria was created in 1914 . H The Colony of Lagos existed separately. So your logic is the flawed one. How could they have used your wealth when they had not created Nigeria YET
The colony was merged with the economically underperforming rest of .Nigeria in 1914
http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1898_lagos/3064634_1898_lagos_opt.pdf


Google Colony of Lagos reports there are several from the 1890s how can you talk of Nigerian wealth from the 1890s are you not funny?
The British kept good records study them. Lagos was a net contributor to the British empire .Why did they abandon Calabar?

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by kernel504(m): 12:33pm On Feb 18, 2016
PFRB:
There is no region in Nigeria called South East.

AS LONG AS WE ARE IN NIGERIA, WE WILL MAKE EVERY ONE OF YOU TENANTS.#OPERATION.MUB.UP.PROPERTY.
Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by vedaxcool(m): 12:34pm On Feb 18, 2016
simplycarro:


He said CITY, not STATE.
He may the right after all.

She needs to get a child to read for her, and yes Lagos is the largest city in Nigeria it is rated 110 in the world it stands at 738 sqkm
Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by Emekamex(m): 12:35pm On Feb 18, 2016
simplycarro:


Which wealth? There was no oil back then! And I can't recollect the East having an agricultural development to generate such funds to build ports in Lagos.

Palm Oil, Cassava and Yam were major cash crops for the SE region then and I meant the contributions from every region of the country were apparently used to build the ports not just the SE as you want to make it sound like.
My point exactly is that the British didn't build those ports with their own funds but from the collective effort of the whole country which they bossed over as the central government.

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by kernel504(m): 12:36pm On Feb 18, 2016
simplycarro:


I don't reply to nuisance like you with decency, I only report.
Enjoy your one week ban and use the time for meaningful activity.

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US IS THAT, ONE IS A COWARD, WHY THE OTHER BOLD.
#waitingforban.

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by omonnakoda: 12:36pm On Feb 18, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/2306559/non-indigenes-lagos-must-respect-hosts/12

We have discussed this before
Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by simplycarro: 12:38pm On Feb 18, 2016
Emekamex:


Palm Oil, Cassava and Yam were major cash crops for the SE region then and I meant the contributions from every region of the country were apparently used to build the ports not just the SE as you want to make it sound like.
My point exactly is that the British didn't build those ports with their own funds but from the collective effort of the whole country which they bossed over as the central government.

Any documentary evidence with a link to this, I would like to read up on the financial contribution of the protectorates in 1896 in building the Lagos ports.
Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by EteEdoho: 12:42pm On Feb 18, 2016
omonnakoda:
According to Wikipedia it is 29 385 square kilometres

and Nigeria is 923 768 square kilometres

i.e the SE is 3.1% of the land mass of Nigeria

To put it in further perspective

Cross River State is 20 000 sq Km

Kwars State is 36 000 sq km
Niger State is 76000 Sq km

Oyo State is 28 454 Sq km

It is important to have this sense of perspective when people start agitating for projects to their zones
The is a very tiny place and is less four 4 percent of Nigeria but want an equal share of projects with zones that are 10 times their size. This is wicked and this attitude should change
How about allowing each zone exploiting its resources and using it to develop at their own pace?. Lets agree, Kwara and Niger state are 36 and 76 respectively, and SE is 29385sqkms. Is that why you parasitically clinge unto ONE NIGERIA,because you want to take the resources from SE to feed the barren north?. If they are smaller in your imagination,to be developed by Nigeria,why not allow them use their resources and develop at their own pace?. BTW, it's only in Nigeria you hear useless logics. All around the world,developmental projects are channeled where they are most needed. And not based on the geographical size.

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by Emekamex(m): 12:43pm On Feb 18, 2016
omonnakoda:
Nigeria was created in 1914 . H The Colony of Lagos existed separately. So your logic is the flawed one. How could they have used your wealth when they had not created Nigeria YET
The colony was merged with the economically underperforming rest of .Nigeria in 1914
http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1898_lagos/3064634_1898_lagos_opt.pdf


Google Colony of Lagos reports there are several from the 1890s how can you talk of Nigerian wealth from the 1890s are you not funny?
The British kept good records study them. Lagos was a net contributor to the British empire .Why did they abandon Calabar?


Nigeria was a separate colony then, I agree, but it is also clear that they were in charge of the other separate entities that make up the present day Nigeria and there will be likelihood that revenues accrued from one entity can be used to develop another just as banks have different branches were profit from one branch can be used for projects in another.

To die this issue, you have to provide the evidences of finances used by the British for this port.

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by omonnakoda: 12:46pm On Feb 18, 2016
Emekamex:


Palm Oil, Cassava and Yam were major cash crops for the SE region then and I meant the contributions from every region of the country were apparently used to build the ports not just the SE as you want to make it sound like.
My point exactly is that the British didn't build those ports with their own funds but from the collective effort of the whole country which they bossed over as the central government.
There was no country Nigeria in 1896 The Colony of Lagos existed separately

More importantly the separate Colonies had separe financial reports they are online. They show revenues expenditures and borrowing and how different projects were funded. They show how it is that in the 1890s Lagos had street lights and telephones . Why?


https://www.nairaland.com/2306559/non-indigenes-lagos-must-respect-hosts/12


Because it was a very lucrative outpost.

There are also separate reports for the East and I actuall recall debating them on Nairaland I believe it was with Eziachi or someone like that.

Rather than make wild ignorant guesses and assumptions arm yourself with facts and truth.

Lagos was separate from Oil Rivers Colony with a DIFFERENT individual as GOVERNOR

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by kernel504(m): 12:46pm On Feb 18, 2016
omonnakoda:
Young grin man? I am not your father's mate

SIR ONUKU 1, TAKE YOUR MATHMATICS LESSON SERIOUS.


List of Nigerian states by area
The following table presents a listing of Nigeria's 36 states ranked in order of their surface area.
Rank. State. km²
1Niger State76,363
2Borno State70,898
3Taraba State54,473
4Kaduna State46,053
5Bauchi State45,837
6Yobe State45,502
7Zamfara State39,762
8Adamawa State36,917
9Kwara State36,825
10Kebbi State36,800
11Benue State34,059
12Plateau State30,913
13Kogi State29,833
14Oyo State28,454
15Nasarawa State27,117
16Sokoto State25,973
17Katsina State24,192
18Jigawa State23,154
19Cross River State20,156
20Kano State20,131
21Gombe State18,768
22Edo State17,802
23Delta State17,698
24Ogun State16,762
25Ondo State15,500
26Rivers State11,077
27Bayelsa State10,773
28Osun State9,251
-Abuja Federal Capital Territory7,315
29Enugu State7,161
30Akwa Ibom State7,081
31Ekiti State6,353
32Abia State6,320
33Ebonyi State5,670
34Imo State5,100
35Anambra State4,844
36Lagos State3,345
External links
List of Nigerian states by area - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by omonnakoda: 12:49pm On Feb 18, 2016
Emekamex:


Nigeria was a separate colony then, I agree, but it is also clear that they were in charge of the other separate entities that make up the present day Nigeria and there will be likelihood that revenues accrued from one entity can be used to develop another just as banks have different branches were profit from one branch can be used for projects in another.

To die this issue, you have to provide the evidences of finances used by the British for this port.
I have already in the link grin open it and stop talking rubbish Nigeria was NOT a separate Colony. IT DID NOT EXIST!! There was an Oil Rivers protectorate Later this expanded to the so called SOUTHERN PROTECTORATE in 1900 and LAGOS was added in 1906. When Lagos was added the Capital shifted to Lagos . It had a Governor and it had its own Financial reports they are ONLINE and even on Nairaland educate

It is important to clarify terminology, LAGOS referred to the Colony and Protectoctorate of Lagos and the Hinterland essentially WESTERN NIGERIA while prior to amalgamation the Southern Nigeria was The East with Calabar as its capital

Do not take my word for it this is evidence

http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1899_1900_southern_nigeria/3064634_1899_1900_southern_nigeria_opt.pdf

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by somegirl1: 12:49pm On Feb 18, 2016
simplycarro:
SE should keep shut!
Equality is not Equity. Wetin be their contribution to Nigeria's GDP sef?

20% of oil revenue amounts to zilch using your self-derived formula?

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by cheruv: 12:51pm On Feb 18, 2016
masterblogger:
Do you know the geographical size of Israel? Do you know how small the are? Why are the controlling the economy of so many countries, why are they been feared by other countries, respected etc. Young man pls grow up, it's not about the physical size but the economic size, intellectual size etc. Please also know that there is a difference between population and population density. Google will help you with that. Onuku! (my friend)
Israel is 20-27000 km²
Igboland is roughly 43200 km²
If Israel with roughly the size of Igboland is able to be a regional power, Igboland equally has the potentials of being a continental power...after all in 1967, Eastern Nigeria was the fastest growing regional economy in the world
As for the OP,keep up the good work kos your likes strengthen my belief in Nigeria's dissolution grin

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by simplycarro: 12:59pm On Feb 18, 2016
cheruv:

Israel is 20-27000 km²
Igboland is roughly 43200 km²
If Israel with roughly the size of Igboland is able to be a regional power, Igboland equally has the potentials of being a continental power...after all in 1967, Eastern Nigeria was the fastest growing regional economy in the world
As for the OP,keep up the good work kos your likes strengthen my belief in Nigeria's dissolution grin

That is not true.
According to the report provided by your unlettered brother up there.

km²
Enugu 7,161
Abia 6,320
Ebonyi 5,670
Imo 5,100
Anambra 4,844
TOTAL 29,095

More than 13 states in Nigeria are larger in area size than the combined area size of SE.

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by omonnakoda: 1:05pm On Feb 18, 2016
simplycarro:


That is not true.
According to the report provided by your unlettered brother up there.

km²
Enugu 7,161
Abia 6,320
Ebonyi 5,670
Imo 5,100
Anambra 4,844
TOTAL 29,095

More than 13 states in Nigeria are larger in area size than the combined area size of SE.

Not all of it is Ibo land some of it is Igala and Akamkpa land
Iboland will be about 19 or 20

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by omonnakoda: 1:38pm On Feb 18, 2016
Ariani:
I agree with the OP. SE will forever remain insignificant in Nigeria, and fully deserve all the treatment she receives from Nigeria, until the " one Nigeria" screaming Igbos grow a brain. grin
Do not misrepresent me .The SE is not insignificant. In fact it is very significant

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by omonnakoda: 1:40pm On Feb 18, 2016
simplycarro:


That is not true.
According to the report provided by your unlettered brother up there.

km²
Enugu 7,161
Abia 6,320
Ebonyi 5,670
Imo 5,100
Anambra 4,844
TOTAL 29,095

More than 13 states in Nigeria are larger in area size than the combined area size of SE.
Do you think the SE should be ONE State?
Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by Ecoterrorism(f): 1:41pm On Feb 18, 2016
vedaxcool:


Lagos is the largest city in terms of land mass in Nigeria, the largest population in Nigeria. Even the East receive a lot of benefits from FG, so your point is moot!
Lagos is the largest in terms of land mass in Nigeria? undecided I've bookmark Ur account to remind myself never to quote quota pupils again
Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by simplycarro: 1:42pm On Feb 18, 2016
omonnakoda:
Do you think the SE should be ONE State?

No doubt.
Ebonyi, Abia, Enugu and Imo should be merged.
Anambra can stay alone because they would never want to be in the same state with other Igbos. grin grin

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by santori: 1:48pm On Feb 18, 2016
Emekamex:


Your excuse that it was built in 1896 by the British is a flawed logic, in that the British then were the equivalent of the present day FG; Nigeria was their colony and they used our wealth as a country to carry out those projects.

there was no Nigeria then. the eastern flank of Nigeria has it's hq in calabar. southwest is provincial, the abeokuta province and the rest, lagos was on it's own then. It's just an exit point for goods from the hinterlands of the current day Nigeria. lagos is like a mecca that will always attract ppl cos of it's strategic location and the peaceful dispositions of its indigenous p
Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by Ariani: 1:48pm On Feb 18, 2016
omonnakoda:
Do not misrepresent me .The SE is not insignificant. In fact it is very significant

So, what's the aim of this your thread?

To show how insignificant SE is ie, lesser landmass, and why they should stop demanding for equity, seeing as they are not equal to other Nigerian regions?

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by santori: 1:53pm On Feb 18, 2016
EteEdoho:
How about allowing each zone exploiting its resources and using it to develop at their own pace?. Lets agree, Kwara and Niger state are 36 and 76 respectively, and SE is 29385sqkms. Is that why you parasitically clinge unto ONE NIGERIA,because you want to take the resources from SE to feed the barren north?. If they are smaller in your imagination,to be developed by Nigeria,why not allow them use their resources and develop at their own pace?. BTW, it's only in Nigeria you hear useless logics. All around the world,developmental projects are channeled where they are most needed. And not based on the geographical size.


going by your logic . can we now say Ghanas wealth was used to develop lagos since ghana was also controlled by the English
Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by Ariani: 2:00pm On Feb 18, 2016
On Lagos and it's growth.

It's a historical fact that Lagos holds its mega city status and all it has today to the firstly the British who exploited the rest of the better south to build up Lagos, and later the FG that continued in the same tradition of exploiting the better south to continue building Lagos, God's will Akpabio raised this point when he queried why rehabilitation and rapid reconstruction in the early 70's took place in Lagos, when the actual war and devastation happened in the better South, even Saro Wiwa queried this Lagos exploitation of the better south, before his death.

We saw this continual exploitation of the better South to build up Lagos by the FG in the recently released budget that saw Lagos and SW receiving the major attention and lion share.

The beginning of SW and indeed Lagos exploitation of the better south was well captured by Obiagu1, in this thread:https://www.nairaland.com/1019602/dont-blame-1914-amalgamation-rather/2

Pay attention to Obiagu1 conversation with PhysicsQED in that thread.

Lagos owe's it's greatness to Nigeria and wouldn't be any better than Abidjan, Lome, Conakry, Accra, and other coastal West African cities without Nigeria, little wonder peeps develop tachycardia at the mention of Nigeria dissolution.

NB: At the era of discourse, SW. was not economically viable and contributed next to nothing to the British, seeing as the region had been ravaged by a bitter civil war.

So Where exactly was the money the British used to build Lagos coming from? grin

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by explorer250(m): 2:02pm On Feb 18, 2016
simplycarro:


That is not true.
According to the report provided by your unlettered brother up there.

km²
Enugu 7,161
Abia 6,320
Ebonyi 5,670
Imo 5,100
Anambra 4,844
TOTAL 29,095

More than 13 states in Nigeria are larger in area size than the combined area size of SE.

what of us rivers Igbo that has over 70% of the landmass in rivers state? why don't you include us in the total Igbo landmass? what of the entire delta north that is igbo comprising of not less than 40% of Delta state landmass and that of igbanke in Edo. what of those in Benue numbering over 300 communities and those in akwa ibom and cross river states.don't forget that oil proceeds from oil producing parts of igboland in abia IMO delta and states are used to feed your economically


barren states


www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onitsha-Ado&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjFk4znqoHLAhXHuhoKHdoCDhAQFggLMAA&usg=AFQjCNHoGY4Tua8j-qK22gnGUEpfyj0PKA


sunnewsonline.com/new/weve-abandoned-igbos-benue-cry/

www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anioma_people&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjirungrIHLAhXHDxoKHS4_AvwQFggQMAI&usg=AFQjCNGXj4oAxvsq8ab95tGHETIsliP1Cg



www.google.com/url?q=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igboland&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwjirungrIHLAhXHDxoKHS4_AvwQFggOMAE&usg=AFQjCNF3AUzt9XCaP43MUmVCcjj5IRI0Zw

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Re: What Is The Geographical Size Of The South East Region by mandarin: 2:06pm On Feb 18, 2016
I don't think landmass alone should be the basis of creating states or distributing wealth.Population also matters and needs. However, as long as the system of sharing wealth is centralized, there will continue to be problems in Nigeria. Regionalism is the way forward on which each region will exploit its resources, pay taxes to Abuja maybe at like 30% and provide for the needs of all its citizens.
I also honestly believe Igboland extend beyond if their kinsmen elsewhere agree to be in the same region, it may be about 35,000square kilometers.
Why can't Igbo have their country? Of course they can but with a population over 25million, the congestion will be awesome

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