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| God Speaks To Me. by ValentineMary(m): 12:47am On Feb 21, 2016 |
Why is it, that many people of faith feel quite comfortable stating that they have a personal relationship with their god, that he speaks to them, his words guide their actions, but when someone kills someone (or a bunch of someones) and claims that their God told them to do it, they deny that this could possibly be true? Obviously they say, he/she/they were sick, twisted, delusional, obviously. "My God is the one true God and I know he would never do that." " We have a personal relationship. We're very close." "Sinful people brought this evil upon themselves." How close are you with your god ... exactly? Can you describe your god for me? Is your god a boy god, or a girl god , or maybe asexual? Does your god have any allergies (other than being allergic to atheists and other gods?) How old is your god? Does your god have any outside interest...hobbies? When your god speaks to you, what kind of voice does it have, bass, baritone, tenor, alto or soprano? Can your write down the last sentence your god spoke to you? Does your god eat? If so what is your gods favorite food? If so, does your god excrete? If so, does your god use the boys, or the girls bathroom? So enlighten me. I do hope someone reading this will have a stab at answering these questions, but I am fairly certain the only response will be that they are silly questions, and that I just don't understand their God, or their relationship. The preceding questions may sound flippant to you, the reader, but please do not dismiss them as folly. They are serious questions. If you would please enlighten me, by answering the simple questions above. I'm sure you could answer at least a few of them about any other people you know, even just in passing. Is your God all powerful or not? Why is it, when something wonderful and unanticipated happens, it must be god doing his godly bit, but when something horrific happens it is never God's fault? A good example of this phenomenon is when a baby miraculously survives a fall from a three story apartment. And christians claim this is proof of an loving, caring god. When a tsunami crashes into the shore, however, sweeping away entire populations of innocent men, women and children, God had nothing to do with it. In their efforts to keep religion current, many sects have abandoned a literal interpretation of the contents of their respective holy books in an effort to retain some relevance to their modern day believers. We now have gay ministers, gay weddings, heck, I'm willing to bet that most people don't kill their neighbour if he mows the lawn on the sabbath. There are however many notable exceptions to this; honor killings, genital mutilation, arranged marriages, and Islam in general. Why does your God allow such perversions of his supposed love to go unanswered? I will choose freewill! The standard response goes to the idea of freewill. Your god loves humanity so much that it gave us the ability to defy it if we so chose. Apparently your all knowing all powerful, ultra benevolent and super understanding God wanted us to have the opportunity to sentence ourselves to eternal damnation, because the only thing larger than it's "love" is it's ego! Neuroscience is currently doing some really interesting research in the area of free will, and producing some rather unexpected results. It seems that even when we humans believe we are making a conscious decision to do an act, any act, but for the moment let's concentrate on a familiar example. Suppose that you had a bowl of Campbell's Chunky Soup, now suppose next to the soup, on the same table is a fork and a spoon. Now everyone knows that Chunky soup is so chunky you'll be tempted to eat it with a fork.So which will you choose? Even before your hand reaches for theimplement you have chosen, the neurons in your brains are firing and instructed your muscles to pick up the spoon because, let's face it, only an idiot eats soup with a fork! Free will might turn out to be an illusion. More research may reveal that we are indeed creatures of our experience and environment; that given the exact genetic makeup, and living the same life. We would make the same choice when it comes to our actions. This could have a profound impact on our belief systems. Don't worry, I'm sure all us Atheists are going straight to your imaginary hell as soon as we are done here, but to me that just seems stupid. Most Atheists are decent and moral people. We don't even break any more of the commandments than your average Christian or Jew. We are doomed to suffer eternal torment at the taloned hands of another of your god's creation. You guessed it, Lucifer, the fallen angel. Designed by your God specifically to fall, apparently your God needs a nemesis. So it created one, leaving us Atheists as nothing more than fodder for the inferno. What about my wife? What about my dog? What about my son? My wife is a believer, my son, my dog and myself are not. When my wife gets up to Heaven the first thing she will ask is "where's Andrew" so the guy at the gate will tell her he's sorry but we didn't make the cut. "But don't worry" he tell my wife, "if you come and stand over here, you can watch them all being tormented for all eternity. Isn't that great!" In an attempt to cheer my beautiful wife up, he will give her a harp. My wife has never expressed the slightest desire to play the harp. So the next time your are exploring the beauty and depth of your personal relationship with your god, maybe you can ask why it's such a capricious and vindictive prick! Oh and put in a good word for my dog will you. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by Amberon: 8:47am On Feb 21, 2016 |
Some people WHO aren't spiritually inclined just hear any voice and claim its from God without taking into consideration that angels of darkness also disguise themselves as angels of light whenever they're trying to deceive God's faithful followers. God cannot ask believers or anyone at all to kill, steal, or lie because whenever you do these things, you open a portal for demons to come into your life. Consider 1 corinthians 6: 9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators , nor idolaters , nor adulterers , nor homosexuals , nor sodomites , 10 nor thieves , nor covetous , nor drunkards , nor revilers , nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. God can never, ever ask anyone to commit any of the above sins because God can never go contrary to his word. A weak christian is one who falls prey easily to the vices of the devil. There is something called the "spirit of discernment" which many christian black. And anyone qho Lack's this Gift will confuse any spirit or voice as that of God. 1 Like |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by oteneaaron(m): 8:54am On Feb 21, 2016 |
OP....i'm sorry bit this thread will swerve in the wrong direction once the christians return from their churches..... You have some deep points there....i'm busy now.....but will give a meaningful response later......... Cheers!. 1 Like |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by lepasharon(f): 9:46am On Feb 21, 2016 |
Amberon: You that is spiritually inclined pls tell us what the real voice of God sounds like 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by ValentineMary(m): 11:35am On Feb 21, 2016 |
Amberon:God can't tell us to kill yet he told Moses to kill his son, he sent Saul to kill a whole tribe to the last child, he even killed his own son. Are u trying to sweet coat the bible  1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by asalimpo(m): 12:21pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
ValentineMary:kindergaten atheist. Are you looking for facts or you want to argue? In the new testament dont you see a different way of living? Begone are animal sacrifices. The rule is no longer mosaic-an eye for an eye etc- but love. |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by Amberon: 1:25pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
That was in the old covenant. This is the NEW one. In the old covenant , everything was based on works. But in the new covenant we are by grace through the finished works of Christ (shedding of his precious blood on the cross as an atonement for our sins). In the old covenant, God dent his faithfuls to fight and kill in battles. But you can't find that anywhere in the NEW covenant. The reverse was the case. Infact the disciples were willing to die for the Gospel. All the disciples died spreading the bible, some were dropped in hot boiling oil, others beheaded and crucified upside down. Stephen easy Stone's to death. The word christian means being ValentineMary: |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by sambisamann: 1:37pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
asalimpo: what God the same or did he change? Did he get any wiser and decided that animal sacrifices are so stone age? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by asalimpo(m): 1:51pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
sambisamann:the bible has all the answers you need. Do ur research. |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by sambisamann: 1:53pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
asalimpo: i am asking you now. Did God change? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by asalimpo(m): 1:57pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
sambisamann:I hand you over to google and a bible near you. Or you no know how to research again? |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by sambisamann: 2:10pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
asalimpo: i don't need googles opinion. I need your own candid opinion and convictions. Please don't tell me you don't have an indepth knowledge of God? Brother, again i ask, did God Change? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by asalimpo(m): 2:52pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
sambisamann:you don't need the Bible's opinion? Then you aint sincere. Honestly. Grab a bible. Grab google. Google your question, look up bible verses, read the verses, compare in context. Attain a conclusion. Report your findings here. If you really wanna learn put in the work yourself, others will assist you if they see you are really sincere. At least a bible and google are very easily accessible. |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by sonofthunder: 6:35pm On Feb 21, 2016 |
... God is Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by ValentineMary(m): 3:50pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
Amberon:So u are claiming that God changed the almighty God did not know killing was bad until a couple if thousand years later. It seems he has a hard time making decisions. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by ValentineMary(m): 3:53pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
asalimpo:God tells us to kill and later on tells us that killing is bad. He really is a confused fellow. But I thought they said he does not change, how come d sharp change? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by sonofthunder: 5:05pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
God has tools for executing His judgement. various nations/people have always and still fill these voids |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by virginboy1(m): 7:45pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
I don't believe the loving merciful God I have come to know about, will burn me in hell, for having sex,because I am not ready to marry. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by virginboy1(m): 7:46pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
sonofthunder:Where were you 1000 yrs ago? 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by sonofthunder: 8:43pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
virginboy1:you should be telling me... you seem to know |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by hahn(m): 8:49pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
Op, lol  2 Likes 1 Share
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| Re: God Speaks To Me. by virginboy1(m): 9:46pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
sonofthunder:And you believe you will go to hell or Heaven after you die? Mind you,I am a Christian but not the fanatical type like your lots 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by sonofthunder: 9:58pm On Feb 22, 2016 |
virginboy1:who told who that I'm or that I'm not fanatical?... anyways the bible makes us to understand that all will be judged and John 3:18 says... he who believes in Him [who clings to, trusts in, relies on Him] is not judged [he who trusts in Him never comes up for judgment; for him there is no rejection, no condemnation--he incurs no damnation]; but he who does not believe (cleave to, rely on, trust in Him) is judged already [he has already been convicted and has already received his sentence] because he has not believed in and trusted in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [He is condemned for refusing to let his trust rest in Christ's name.] |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by taurus25(m): 12:08am On Feb 23, 2016 |
lol... ive heard the old covenant/new convenant defense alot, but what they fail to understand is written within the same pages of the bible is that god is the same yesterday, today, and forever so now how is the god who orders people to go kill any different from the one in the new testament ? because clearly the bible says hes not. Does he change his ways? does he change his mind? does he repent from his savagery? if yes then he is no god! |
| Re: God Speaks To Me. by taurus25(m): 12:28am On Feb 23, 2016 |
taurus25: *modified* @OP the key word here is belief once people believe something to be true they make it their reality no matter the glaring evidence to the contrary, that is when it becomes delusion alot of religious folks would look at your questions and say 'look at this one he lacks the spirit' but i must say they are 100% reasonable, jesus speaks to no one! just look at history men were one convinced zeus spoke to them with signs and wonders that thunder in the sky was thor speaking here in africa amadioha and sango spoke through 'babas' etc etc write out a bible verse today and ten different 'spirit filed' christains would give you different ten different explanations is the holy spirit that confussed 2 Likes |
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