| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by Goodyshoes(m): 7:07am On Mar 06, 2016 |
princy80:
what is the goalpost here? Goalpost here simply means the criteria for salvation and remission of sins. |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by adorablepepple(f): 7:19am On Mar 06, 2016 |
Goodyshoes:
Address my concerns and interprete the passage.
Some other time dear. Not today! Church things |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by Goodyshoes(m): 7:21am On Mar 06, 2016 |
adorablepepple:
Some other time dear. Not today! Church things Aiit. Enjoy the day. |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by adorablepepple(f): 7:21am On Mar 06, 2016 |
Goodyshoes:
There was remission of sins by blood sacrifices done by the high priest.
What else would you regard as salvation, if not the remission of sins and being made wholesome and pure....
This is enshrined in the old testament. Clearly written and explained.
This was what was required to be made right with God as at then. Coming down to the new testament, there comes Jesus and the salvific concept of the cross.
Would you then say there hasn't been a change You are very confused, it's a pity I can't address this issue now. Maybe later. |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by Goodyshoes(m): 7:22am On Mar 06, 2016 |
adorablepepple:
You are very confused, it's a pity I can't address this issue now. Maybe later. I'd await your rebuttal.  |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by ministeriallist: 7:39am On Mar 06, 2016 |
losak9111:
if is tithe and offering na every Sunday music in d church The purpose of every business is profit. So don't get it twisted, tithe is as important as the church itself  1 Like |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by xendra: 7:42am On Mar 06, 2016 |
losak9111:
I think they must tell us everything in Bible no need, since you will find it yourself anyway |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by xendra: 7:49am On Mar 06, 2016 |
hrhobi1:
After Onan's brother Er dies, his father Judah told him to fulfill his duty to his brother by entering into a levirate marriage with his brother's widow Tamar to give her offspring.
Religion professor Tikva Frymer-Kensky has pointed out the economic repercussions of a levirate marriage: any son born to Tamar would be deemed the heir of the deceased Er, and able to claim the firstborn's double share of inheritance. However, if Er were childless, Onan would have inherited as the oldest
surviving son.[3]
When Onan had sex with Tamar, he withdrew before climax[4] and "spilled his seed [or semen] on the ground", since any child born would not legally be considered his heir.[5] The next statement in the bible says that Onan did evil and that God slew him.[6]
Now, if Onan had rejected the idea of sleeping with his brothers wife initially, I think God wouldn't have been angry at him. But he rather enjoyed the sex and ejaculated on the floor to avoid her getting pregnant. His motive was to enjoy the sex and still remain the surviving Son of their father and thereby inheriting everything for himself.
So he tried to play smart, and got slewed by God. Also remember this happened in the first testament, the book of Genesis to be precise.
Peace be unto you.
HRH OBI 1. Thank you for explaining oo, assuming he even actually wants to know and not just trying to start an argument |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by losak9111(m): 7:50am On Mar 06, 2016 |
xendra:
no need, since you will find it yourself anyway no |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by xendra: 8:00am On Mar 06, 2016 |
lonelydora:
Same here. I will start taking pastors serious when they start preaching from the book of "Songs of Solomon" and Deuteronomy 14: 22-29 (the passage where they told us other options of spending tithe). ok I understand d book of deut. cos even i have a problem with the idea dat i have to pay my tithe in church wen i know people who i can help with it, and pastors especially in this country don't help the poor and needy. but wat do you want a pastor to teach you in "church" on "Sunday" from d songs of solomon |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by losak9111(m): 8:05am On Mar 06, 2016 |
How to toast a lady now, joking! xendra:
ok I understand d book of deut. cos even i have a problem with the idea dat i have to pay my tithe in church wen i know people who i can help with it, and pastors especially in this country don't help the poor and needy. but wat do you want a pastor to teach you in "church" on "Sunday" from d songs of solomon |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by xendra: 8:15am On Mar 06, 2016 |
losak9111:
How to toast a lady now, joking!  exactly. 1 Like |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by myfantasies(f): 9:26am On Mar 06, 2016 |
Goodyshoes:
I fear that you might have misrepresented me by misunderstanding what I meant by fantastic stories.
Simply put..... The Bible, as much as I regard it as a profound collection of wisdom and deep truths, is very much filled with legends and fantastic(apparently magical) concepts which bemuses the rational mind.
Have you studied in detail the Bible?? I did not misrepresent or misunderstood ur qoute, so no need to fear.... Wat i am saying is that alot of us dat goes to church hardly open more dan two verses D pastors will quote d chapters of the Bible to dere own favor, nd once d members go home dey just dump d Bible till the following sunday, not minding to explore There are a lot of things we need to learn about the Bible, i have not studied the Bible in details |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by Goodyshoes(m): 9:43am On Mar 06, 2016 |
myfantasies:
I did not misrepresent or misunderstood ur qoute, so no need to fear.... Wat i am saying is that alot of us dat goes to church hardly open more dan two verses
D pastors will quote d chapters of the Bible to dere own favor, nd once d members go home dey just dump d Bible till the following sunday, not minding to explore
There are a lot of things we need to learn about the Bible, i have not studied the Bible in details Aptly written.... |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by Brown47: 9:55am On Mar 06, 2016 |
hrhobi1:
After Onan's brother Er dies, his father Judah told him to fulfill his duty to his brother by entering into a levirate marriage with his brother's widow Tamar to give her offspring.
Religion professor Tikva Frymer-Kensky has pointed out the economic repercussions of a levirate marriage: any son born to Tamar would be deemed the heir of the deceased Er, and able to claim the firstborn's double share of inheritance. However, if Er were childless, Onan would have inherited as the oldest
surviving son.[3]
When Onan had sex with Tamar, he withdrew before climax[4] and "spilled his seed [or semen] on the ground", since any child born would not legally be considered his heir.[5] The next statement in the bible says that Onan did evil and that God slew him.[6]
Now, if Onan had rejected the idea of sleeping with his brothers wife initially, I think God wouldn't have been angry at him. But he rather enjoyed the sex and ejaculated on the floor to avoid her getting pregnant. His motive was to enjoy the sex and still remain the surviving Son of their father and thereby inheriting everything for himself.
So he tried to play smart, and got slewed by God. Also remember this happened in the first testament, the book of Genesis to be precise.
Peace be unto you.
HRH OBI 1. An omniscient god didn't know what Onan will do later?. If he knows, but still went ahead to continue with this absurd programmed idiocity. |
| Re: No Pastor Will Tell U This On Sunday During Preaching by Brown47: 10:02am On Mar 06, 2016 |
hrhobi1:
After Onan's brother Er dies, his father Judah told him to fulfill his duty to his brother by entering into a levirate marriage with his brother's widow Tamar to give her offspring.
Religion professor Tikva Frymer-Kensky has pointed out the economic repercussions of a levirate marriage: any son born to Tamar would be deemed the heir of the deceased Er, and able to claim the firstborn's double share of inheritance. However, if Er were childless, Onan would have inherited as the oldest
surviving son.[3]
When Onan had sex with Tamar, he withdrew before climax[4] and "spilled his seed [or semen] on the ground", since any child born would not legally be considered his heir.[5] The next statement in the bible says that Onan did evil and that God slew him.[6]
Now, if Onan had rejected the idea of sleeping with his brothers wife initially, I think God wouldn't have been angry at him. But he rather enjoyed the sex and ejaculated on the floor to avoid her getting pregnant. His motive was to enjoy the sex and still remain the surviving Son of their father and thereby inheriting everything for himself.
So he tried to play smart, and got slewed by God. Also remember this happened in the first testament, the book of Genesis to be precise.
Peace be unto you.
HRH OBI 1. An omniscience god didn't know what what Onan will later do? If he knows, but still went ahead to carry out this programmed idiotic display? |
