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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 11:09am On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


1. Please dont insult members of this forum (for no apparent reason)

2. Chad and Cameroon deployed on Nigerian soil - so what? Its not a big deal to admit that, and it in no way diminishes your national pride.

My statments are based on a press release and well documented Chadian and Cameroonian deployments in Nigeria. They are certainly not lies. Please contain your emotional outbursts, we are trying to have a discussion here, not a dick measuring contest.


Ps; Finally found a pic of an ERC 90 in the NE

not an insult if it's true you know.


i knew you would bring up chad cameroon issue. is it not you?

i hope yo are enlightened enough to know about the MNJTF and it's AOR which includes boarder communities of the contributing states.

so yes. you lie when you ignore that fact just to back your falsehood.

i wonder how bringing up facts to prove your media lied is seen as an emotional outburst to you.

this is not an issue to be discussed. it'll be political suicide if any government permits it. don't give us a Nigerian view from a south african perspective

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 11:12am On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


1. Please dont insult members of this forum (for no apparent reason)

2. Chad and Cameroon deployed on Nigerian soil - so what? Its not a big deal to admit that, and it in no way diminishes your national pride.

My statments are based on a press release and well documented Chadian and Cameroonian deployments in Nigeria. They are certainly not lies. Please contain your emotional outbursts, we are trying to have a discussion here, not a dick measuring contest.


Ps; Finally found a pic of an ERC 90 in the NE
multinational joint task force is headed by Nigeria and they operate mainly along the border. So you are wrong.
Why not let US wait for the Nigeria army to tell us what your troops will be doing in Nigeria.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:14am On Mar 09, 2016
stillchris:


not an insult if it's true you know.


i knew you would bring up chad cameroon issue. is it not you?

i hope yo are enlightened enough to know about the MNJTF and it's AOR which includes boarder communities of the contributing states.

so yes. you lie when you ignore that fact just to back your falsehood.

i wonder how bringing up facts to prove your media is seen as an emotional outburst to you.

we surely cannot have a discussion that's based on falsehood

Im not wasting my time with this.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 11:20am On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


Why are you getting so emotional over this?

Its simply a hypothetical discussion. I never once said that we would deploy, I have only ever said we may deploy.

You need to calm down.

Pic: Nigerian SF, early days

stop aluding anything that pinches you to an emotional outburst. it won't make me stop.

i was only giving factual reasons and not giving persinal opinions based on false press release from only your media
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:20am On Mar 09, 2016
it seems UNCLE SAM is busy in somalia off-late ,from information i found online the death toll was eleven not one as alshabaab claim

Islamist group al Shabaab said it fought off an attack on one of its bases in southern Somalia early on Wednesday that was launched by foreign commandos who flew in on two helicopters, leaving one al Shabaab fighter dead in the gun battle.

Sheikh Abdiasis Abu Musab, al Shabaab’s military operations spokesman, did not identify the nationality of the troops who launched the assault at about 1 a.m. in the Awdigle district of Lower Shabelle area, about 50 km (30 miles) south of Mogadishu.

Several foreign nations have been supporting the Somali government's efforts to combat al Shabaab's insurgency.

The AMISOM peacekeeping force is made up of troops from several African nations which has been fighting alongside the Somali army. An AMISOM spokesman could not immediately be reached for comment.

U.S. officials said in 2014 that U.S. military advisers had secretly operated in Somalia since around 2007. They also said at that time that Washington planned to deepen its security assistance to help Somalia fend off the Islamist threat.

Washington said it launched air strikes on another al Shabaab base on Saturday killing more than 150 Islamist fighters. Al Shabaab said the number was exaggerated.

It was not immediately possible to obtain any U.S. comment.

Al Shabaab's military operations spokesman told Reuters the two helicopters landed on the banks of the River Shabelle and commandos from the aircraft advanced on the base.

"They were masked and spoke foreign languages which our fighters could not understand," Abu Musab told Reuters. "We do not know who they were but we foiled them.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-somalia-attacks-islamist-idUSKCN0WB0MT?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 11:21am On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


Im not wasting my time with this.

of course you shouldn't. next time get your facts right before posting your opinions
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:26am On Mar 09, 2016
iblawi:
multinational joint task force is headed by Nigeria and they operate mainly along the border. So you are wrong.
Why not let US wait for the Nigeria army to tell us what your troops will be doing in Nigeria.

They still operate on Nigerian soil (Ie;Dikwa is 113km from the Chadian border), which goes to the point that foriegn troops have deployed to and operated on your soil. So saying that they could potentially do so again is not unrealistic.

Yes, that was may plan (hence my use of modal verbs in the future tense). But the very mention of the potential of SF deploying elicited such astounding vitriol!!

Tanzanian IFV, South African MRAP and Congolese truck headed to the front

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:26am On Mar 09, 2016
stillchris:


of course you shouldn't. next time get your facts right before posting your opinions

They are all correct.

As allways.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 11:29am On Mar 09, 2016
africaken254:
it seems UNCLE SAM is busy in somalia off-late ,from information i read online the death toll was eleven not one as alshabaab claim


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-somalia-attacks-islamist-idUSKCN0WB0MT?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

China building a huge base in Djibouti has lit a fire under them
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:41am On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


China building a huge base in Djibouti has lit a fire under them

from what chinese said ,they are planning to build several bases .djibouti is just the beginning,also in Garoua, Cameroon america are finishing building a drone base there and from satellite photos showed they were erecting a satellite dish
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 12:13pm On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


They still operate on Nigerian soil (Ie;Dikwa is 113km from the Chadian border), which goes to the point that foriegn troops have deployed to and operated on your soil. So saying that they could potentially do so again is not unrealistic.

I'm going to get in on this to let readers know how not to take your opinions seriously since they are always clouded with lies.

And it's military related and I'm bored grin

First of all, a little education on the MNJTF since you are clearly ignorant about it.

The task force was first organised as a solely Nigerian force in 1994, during the administration of Sani Abacha, to "checkmate banditry activities and to facilitate free movement" along its northern border.[1][2] In 1998 it was expanded to include units from neighbouring Chad and Niger with the purpose of dealing with common cross-border security issues in the Lake Chad region, with its headquarters in the town of Baga, Borno State.[2]

With HQ was in Baga. A Nigerian border town. Please educate yourself

And yet again @patches you lie. The Chadians Are not on Nigerian soil. They played their part as a member of the MNJTF and were asked to withdraw because what they claimed was false.

Following report that Chadian troops are withdrawing from Nigeria before it was later alleged that, it was Nigerian authorities that asked them to leave Dakiwa, a town in Borno State that was reportedly reclaimed from Boko Haram by Chadian troops, some concerned Nigerians have negatively reacted to government’s decision.
https://www.naij.com/401977-insurgency-nigerians-react-to-chadian-troops-withdrawal.html

We went in and finished the job with pictoral evidence that we did. (something the media and chadians couldn't provide despite their claims)

https://www.naij.com/499081-photos-nigerian-army-dislodge-boko-haram-members-dikwa-borno-state.html

And patches, DIKWA IS A BORDER TOWN WHICH FALLS IN THE AOR OF THE MNJTF

More than three weeks after the Nigerian military issued a statement saying it had recaptured Dikwa, a border town in Borno state,
http://icirnigeria.org/nigerian-military-rids-dikwa-of-boko-haram-insurgents/

Stop trying to misconstrue the activities of the MNJTF to Back your fallacy.

The MNJTF have always operated across the borders of the contributing states. Now that Cameroon has joined in we have seen pics of Nigerian troops on Cameroonian border towns as well.

My response to your lies is for other readers to know the facts.

So feel free to prove otherwise (of course not with your personal flawed opinions)

Pic: Nigerian Army SF with Cameroonian counterparts working across the border as members of MNJTF

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:08pm On Mar 09, 2016
gottfried21:
Let me just leave this here
considering the precarious state of the south african economy,who is going to pay for this ?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 1:20pm On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


They still operate on Nigerian soil (Ie;Dikwa is 113km from the Chadian border), which goes to the point that foriegn troops have deployed to and operated on your soil. So saying that they could potentially do so again is not unrealistic.

Yes, that was may plan (hence my use of modal verbs in the future tense). But the very mention of the potential of SF deploying elicited such astounding vitriol!!

Tanzanian IFV, South African MRAP and Congolese truck headed to the front
113 kilometers from chad's capital not to Nigerian border. Dikwa is a town very close to our border. For God's sake Lagos to Accra Ghana is only 450 km (two countries away) so tell US how a border town will be 113km from the border. You read too many fake news.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 1:24pm On Mar 09, 2016
iblawi:

113 kilometers from chad's capital not to Nigerian border. Dikwa is a town very close to our border. For God's sake Lagos to Accra Ghana is only 450 km (two countries away) so tell US how a border town will be 113km from the border. You read too many fake news.

he gets turned on by lies
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 1:31pm On Mar 09, 2016
stillchris:


I'm going to get in on this to let readers know how not to take your opinions seriously since they are always clouded with lies.

And it's military related and I'm bored grin

First of all, a little education on the MNJTF since you are clearly ignorant about it.



With HQ was in Baga. A Nigerian border town. Please educate yourself

And yet again @patches you lie. The Chadians Are not on Nigerian soil. They played their part as a member of the MNJTF and were asked to withdraw because what they claimed was false.


https://www.naij.com/401977-insurgency-nigerians-react-to-chadian-troops-withdrawal.html

We went in and finished the job with pictoral evidence that we did. (something the media and chadians couldn't provide despite their claims)

https://www.naij.com/499081-photos-nigerian-army-dislodge-boko-haram-members-dikwa-borno-state.html

And patches, DIKWA IS A BORDER TOWN WHICH FALLS IN THE AOR OF THE MNJTF


http://icirnigeria.org/nigerian-military-rids-dikwa-of-boko-haram-insurgents/

Stop trying to misconstrue the activities of the MNJTF to Back your fallacy.

The MNJTF have always operated across the borders of the contributing states. Now that Cameroon has joined in we have seen pics of Nigerian troops on Cameroonian border towns as well.

My response to your lies is for other readers to know the facts.

So feel free to prove otherwise (of course not with your personal flawed opinions)

Pic: Nigerian Army SF with Cameroonian counterparts working across the border as members of MNJTF

I said:

Patchesagain:

Chad and Cameroon had small ops in our [typo: your] territory in border regions

This is correct (Dikwa is on your side of the border no?)

So how did i lie?

You need to calm down, properly read what people post and not fly into an emotional rage at the drop of a hat.


Interesting pic from the M23 conflict - pic is supposedly of M23 fighters. Does the man in the shamagh look Congolese to you guys?

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 1:33pm On Mar 09, 2016
iblawi:

113 kilometers from chad's capital not to Nigerian border. Dikwa is a town very close to our border. For God's sake Lagos to Accra Ghana is only 450 km (two countries away) so tell US how a border town will be 113km from the border. You read too many fake news.

I assumed the refrence was Dikwa (the town), I was unaware that the name also applies to a region. I used GIS to measure the distance (as the crow flies) from the Chadian border to the town itself.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 1:35pm On Mar 09, 2016
africaken254:
from what chinese said ,they are planning to build several bases .djibouti is just the beginning,also in Garoua, Cameroon america are finishing building a drone base there and from satellite photos showed they were erecting a satellite dish

They also have a big one in Zimbabwe... an airbase I beleive

This is not going to end well for us. Another couple of decades of proxy wars will finish us.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by stillchris: 1:39pm On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


[s]I said:



This is correct (Dikwa is on your side of the border no?)

So how did i lie?

You need to calm down, properly read what people post and not fly into an emotional rage at the drop of a hat.
[/s]

No you clown. It's not your typo error that matters here. It's the fact that you keep trying to justify a false media report despite that I have provided original press releases that proves it.

And your attempt to do that with more falsehood makes my response to you appropriate.

Sorry guys.. I'm going to stop now since I've made my point

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 1:42pm On Mar 09, 2016
africaken254:
considering the precarious state of the south african economy,who is going to pay for this ?

If it were to happen, I assume it would be small.

How expensive could it be to keep 20-50 guys in country for a couple months?

Just for reference, our entire deployment to the DRC (over a thousand guys, dozens of MRAPs, a couple or Oryx and 3 Rooivalk) only cost $10 mill (a year I assume).
http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34824:sa-soldiers-and-equipment-in-drc-set-to-earn-r100-million-for-national-treasury&catid=111:sa-defence&Itemid=242

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:46pm On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


They also have a big one in Zimbabwe... an airbase I beleive

This is not going to end well for us. Another couple of decades of proxy wars will finish us.


There was talk of them building a navy base here in Namibia...our president had a tough time trying to explain himself on BBC
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 1:48pm On Mar 09, 2016
SAAF budget gets slashed - SA Army budget gets big boost:

This sees its budget for the 2016/17 financial year increased by just under half a billion Rand to R15 651 438 000 from the R15 202 376 000 voted to it by National Treasury in the previous financial year.

One of the biggest increases (14.9%) will come into effect in the 2017/18 financial year and the medium term, for the new Badger infantry combat vehicle; development of a mobile water provisioning system as well as a mass field feeding system and establishing a new command centre for anti-aircraft capability.

Over the medium term about 6 000 regular and Reserve Force members will be trained annually for deployment in the border protection tasking Operation Corona. Two more companies will be added to the overall deployment in the 2016/17 financial year, bringing to 15 the number deployed on South Africa’s landward borders with Botswana, Lesotho, Mozambique, Namibia, Swaziland and Zimbabwe. A total of R3.6 billion has been budgeted for border protection in the medium term.

A total of R4.6 billion has been budgeted for peace support operations. This figure was finalised before South Africa decided to withdraw from the hybrid AU/UN peace support mission in Sudan.

Thrilled to see OP Cornona taking off and giving the Reserves something to do.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:02pm On Mar 09, 2016
Namibian Air Force

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 2:05pm On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


I assumed the refrence was Dikwa (the town), I was unaware that the name also applies to a region. I used GIS to measure the distance (as the crow flies) from the Chadian border to the town itself.
Yes Dikwa is a whole local govement in borno state and Dikwa to chad capital is 177km by road and will be far shorter if it's by line of sight.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by patches689: 2:11pm On Mar 09, 2016
iblawi:
Yes Dikwa is a whole local govement in borno state and Dikwa to chad capital is 177km by road and will be far shorter if it's by line of sight.

I measured from the Chadian border at lake Chad.

Obviously I failed to realize that Chad loops round Cameroon and that they could simply go through Cameroon.

Apologies.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:11pm On Mar 09, 2016
ViceAdmiral:
Namibian Air Force

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:14pm On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


They also have a big one in Zimbabwe... an airbase I beleive

This is not going to end well for us. Another couple of decades of proxy wars will finish us.

we are the last virgin continent ,like or not we will be the center of attention this century
china helping tanzania build an air base Ngerengere Morogoro. sorry the drone base in Cameroon is operational

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGqepk4joOA
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:18pm On Mar 09, 2016
ViceAdmiral:
Namibian Air Force
..

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by iblawi(m): 2:27pm On Mar 09, 2016
patches689:


I measured from the Chadian border at lake Chad.

Obviously I failed to realize that Chad loops round Cameroon and that they could simply go through Cameroon.

Apologies.
ok no p

We have a lot of issues with media here and we believe information base on the source.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:54pm On Mar 09, 2016
Nigerian Army MRLS I.D

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:56pm On Mar 09, 2016
Algeria Mi-24MKIII SuperHind

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:11pm On Mar 09, 2016
On the recent controversy, here's the official position of the SANDF



[b]The SA National Defence Force (SANDF) on Wednesday
[March 9] dismissed reports that it would send troops to
Nigeria to help fight Boko Haram.


“There is no such decision to send any military elements by
the RSA to assist with the fight against Boko Haram,”
spokesperson Siphiwe Dlamini said.
African news website Daily Nation reported that President
Jacob Zuma had arrived in Nigeria to “seal a deal” on the
deployment of South African special forces to fight the
Islamic extremist group. Zuma is on a two-day state visit to
that country.
Defence Minister Nosiviwe Mapisa-Nqakula met her
Nigerian counterpart Mansur Dan Ali earlier this week,
reportedly to finalise modalities for the deployment.
In a statement following talks with Nigerian President
Muhammadu Buhari, Zuma said the two reiterated the need
for joint regional and continental efforts to combat
terrorism and extremist groups.

“Considering our commitment to finding African solutions to
African problems, we have agreed to work together to deal
with these challenges,” Zuma said.

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms all forms of extremism".[/b]
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:28pm On Mar 09, 2016
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