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What Is Nature Exactly? by MrAnony1(m): 3:04pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Hi everyone, been a while. (Free time seems inversely proportional to age these days....or is it a bell curve? Lol) Anyway, I have a question to ask. I keep hearing people appeal to nature as an explanation for complexities that they find in the operation and function of non-manmade things. So my question is: 1. What is Nature exactly? 2. Is Nature intelligent, such that it can deliberately create a complex functional system such as is a living goat? 3. If Nature is not intelligent then how do we explain the existence of goats? 4. If your explanation is that complex functional systems such as are goats came by a series of happy accidents acting upon non-living base elements over a very long period of time, can you cite any similar examples where such a process has been observed? i.e. can you provide with evidence, examples of complex functional systems that came to exist without intelligence? 5. If your explanation is that complex functional systems such as are goats came by intelligent design, can you cite any similar examples where such a process has been observed? i.e. can you provide with evidence, examples of complex functional systems that came to exist with intelligence? 6. If you think that the two explanations are equally plausible i.e. complex functional systems such as is a goat can come about either by a series of accidental co-incidences or by intelligent action, then how do you consistently identify and differentiate between that which has been designed and that which hasn't been designed? Or do you think that it is impossible to make this classification just by observing the product. P/s: I will only respond to genuine and serious replies to the thread. I WILL NOT respond if your answer contains mockery, blasphemy, or use of foul language. I want the conversation to be strictly about what Nature means and whether there is evidence of intelligence in the creation of natural things or not. Any replies that have nothing to do with the questions in this topic will be ignored. Cheers |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Weah96: 3:17pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Nature is the mama who was r.aped by Papa Time. Or she r.aped him. That union was not consensual. Time+Nature =weird things. Don't believe me, leave a pot of egusi soup under your bed for 3 months. See what kind of children our nympho mother go produce with only 3 months of Time. Imagine what she can do with empty space given enough Time. 7 Likes |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by lekkie073(m): 3:32pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
feminine aspect of life... 1 Like |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 3:41pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Weah96:Pot of egusi is nature? ha ha ha! |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Weah96: 3:54pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
ogechieku: Everything is nature. The pot of soup after 3 months will beget other organisms. |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 4:06pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Weah96:Tha is a lye, pot of egusi is man-made. And without it nuture has nothing to work on. More so, it depends on wealther condition. Dont forget your point has not answered his question 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 4:08pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Weah96: |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Weah96: 4:16pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
ogechieku: Can a man create egusi leaves or metal to cook it? Did man create fire or discover it? |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 4:30pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Weah96:Are you talking about pot of egusi, egusi or egusi leaves? |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Weah96: 4:38pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
ogechieku: Doesn't matter. Can you create a leaf or a plant? Or the metal for the pot? Or the water? Na only to scream man-made you sabi. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by UyiIredia(m): 4:38pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
You can't expect a good answer form evolution-loving atheists who exist on the intellectual low ground. In any case, I believe nature was intelligently designed and when we see man making many coded digital devices that use codes like life does and make machines with lots of interacting parts we are seeing man make complex functional systems similar to life. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by UyiIredia(m): 4:39pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
@ MrAnony1 You can't expect a good answer form evolution-loving atheists who exist on the intellectual low ground. In any case, I believe nature was intelligently designed and when we see man making many coded digital devices that use codes like life does and make machines with lots of interacting parts we are seeing man make complex functional systems similar to life. 4 Likes |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 4:56pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
nature is simply what u think it is.. cos our views of life and nature varies.. and nobodies explanation of it can be better than others... so think of what nature is..... then it is it. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 4:57pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Weah96:I qouted you because you mentioned egusi pot but now that you have suddenly changed to egusi leaves i am not interested again. Or you will tell me that you want to change egusi pot to egusi leaves then i will now check if i will be interested. |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Weah96: 5:27pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
ogechieku: What makes a pot? Is it man made material or was the NATURAL metal harvested and shaped into a pot using space, fire, air, and water? Is a birds nest artificial or natural? |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 5:47pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Weah96:Application of inteligence to invisible resources becomes nature. Then if any of the nature items like metal is refined, manufactured or processed by human beings, the only way to distinguish in word is by calling it man made. So, metal is part of nature but pot is from man. |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by vedaxcool(m): 6:14pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Nature is series of interacting natural occurring phenomenon such as wind, the earth spinning on its axis and around the sun, the oceans, gravitational field, living things, etc 3 Likes |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 7:15pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Nature is what scientists define as energy; it is a property of objects that cannot be created or destroyed, but can only be converted or transform from one form to another. Goat is a form of energy, same as maggots. Nature's(energy) transformation can be random or influenced by several external forces... Researchs are still been carried out on this subject be patient. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Weah96: 9:05pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
ogechieku: And the birds nest? The ant hill? Are those things bird made or ant made? 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 9:56pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
Weah96:That is a question of type of nature. |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 10:32pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
krattoss:Right now I'm imagining nature as a piece of shit. Am I right too? Welcome back, Anony. I missed you. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:27pm On Mar 12, 2016 |
On a short note, nature is the phenomena of material existence. This is include the sum of power, properties, the cause (birth) and essense of an existence. As per if Nature is intelligent has to do with how we define intelligence. Intelligence has to do with salience and capacity of reasoning things out. . .and in particular, there is need for a brain. There is no evidence to show that nature is intelligent. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Joshthefirst(m): 12:58am On Mar 13, 2016 |
anony! so nice to see you here! 1 Like |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Weah96: 1:10am On Mar 13, 2016 |
ogechieku: So the birds nest is natural? Do you know what the bird goes through to build that thing? |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Weah96: 1:12am On Mar 13, 2016 |
FOLYKAZE: Is your consciousness outside of nature? If not, then you must accept that you too are not intelligent. |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Joshthefirst(m): 1:28am On Mar 13, 2016 |
MrAnony1:I believe nature is simply the sum total of the physical structures and processes occuring around us, living and non-living. I do not believe 'nature' is conscious or intelligent or capable of moving up in complexity and functional improvement through blind 'random processes' Of course I give ID as an explanation for goats. ![]() I give an example of the man-made robots made by various japanese tech groups that are currently helping clear out the nuclear zone in fukushima after the 2011 meltdown as an example of complex functional systems that came to exist with intelligence. (waiting for someone to give a complex functional system that nature came up with. tag:tufanja, ishilove, yourmain |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 9:35am On Mar 13, 2016 |
Reyginus:yeah sure... as depressed and f*cked up as u are.. why wont it be a piece of sh*t to u? |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 9:45am On Mar 13, 2016 |
krattoss:The question is if I'm right. Tell me. |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 9:46am On Mar 13, 2016 |
Reyginus:who has the right to judge who is right and wrong? |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 9:54am On Mar 13, 2016 |
krattoss:But you initially told us nature is whatever you think it is. And last night I thought it was a piece of shit and you say I'm wrong. What's happening then? |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by Nobody: 9:56am On Mar 13, 2016 |
Reyginus:i said u are wrong?.. no I didn't.. |
Re: What Is Nature Exactly? by MrAnony1(m): 10:16am On Mar 13, 2016 |
emrain:Ok I see. |
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