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Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Nobody: 12:10pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
sunshine1974: Sacrifices, in this age, unlike in the old testament, are spiritual. Because God is Spirit. So are we. If a sacrifice does not come from the spirit, it's a waste of time. 1 Peter 2:5 | Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. Praise is a sacrifice; Incense has always been a sacrifice, Jeremiah 17:26 | And they shall come from the cities of Judah, and from the places about Jerusalem, and from the land of Benjamin, and from the plain, and from the mountains, and from the south, bringing burnt offerings, and sacrifices, and meat offerings, and incense, and bringing sacrifices of praise, unto the house of the LORD. So you see, men are priests offering sacrifices/worship to the wrong entities. By praise, am refering to both words of praises. and song Honour as sacrifice; This is how in the heavens, God is venerated, on earth too. Offer honour to God.... it's something you give as a gift. An offering. Revelation 5:12 | Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing. |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Sanchez01: 12:11pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
bankybobo11:Did Jesus ask couples who just had sex to stay away from church? Are couples staying away from church after an early morning quickie just because the Old Testament says so? Did Jesus condemn the woman caught in the act of adultery? No! Does it mean that people should continue because Christ pardoned the woman? Kindly refer to my post and read the one on tithing and please channel your strength to Leviticus and see if you're observing any of the Laws there. |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by DonaTee(f): 12:13pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Sanchez01: In other words. ....? Finish ur statement rather dan leave it ambiguous for anoda confused fellow to rephrase Tithe is biblical. If u no wan pay leave am. Some pple dont even pay d complete one-tenth yet dey whine n whine Tithe is btw an individual n his God. So if any1 feels his God does not deserve it to each his own. Out of all his mercies wich we cannot buy.....tithe is an appreciation cos it cannot buy miracles n blessings 2 Likes |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Bonj(m): 12:18pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Chukzyfcb: Gbam!!! Great work! Never looked at it from these angles. |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Sanchez01: 12:19pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Bonj:Funny, "touch not my anointed is every pastor's friend". God help us all. |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by DonaTee(f): 12:21pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Sanchez01: Simply put....Christ condemned it biko. But dat is where he taught forgiveness. "Go n sin no more" D mob wanted to stone her to death buh christ remined dem dat they also hav committed others sins including adultery at 1 point in deir lives too. Christ also condemned it wrn he was asked about divorce. ....in as much as God hates divorce. So it means we shld refrain from adultery wich may lead to divorce wich God hates. And to all the philosophers I see here lol God brings d counsel of d wise to nothingness. Pray for ministrations b4 reading ur bible. The words r deep n some in parables n literal illustrations. Cos I see a lot of confused posts |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Nobody: 12:23pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
malvisguy212: Actually, most of the customs associated with Christmas are directly linked with the pagan celebration. E.g,Christmas tree, exchanging gifts, carols etc. The only thing that really changed was the name |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Uffakowoicho(m): 12:28pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
if tithing is defined by one-tenth of the item then it started with Jacob but if it is defined by the first turn out of the item,it started with Cain n Abel in Gen 4:3~4. the analysis of tithe giving is clearly stated in Gen 20:22~30 remember it's the same bible that said whatever is banned on earth is banned in heaven n whatever is accepted on earth is accepted in heaven. open ur mind n let God's spirit lead u in d right path. |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by analice107: 12:30pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
ojoyentalk:Thank you sir. Jesus commended it. This is good that you do, but don't do this alone, dont pay your Tithe and neglect the others. Also show Mercy, exercise your faith, judge justly, etc. Why does this seem to the Christians like abolishment of Tithing? @op, I needed you to tell us why I can't take my very handsome and rich senior brother as my husband? Why can't I marry my young father. There are a lot of things commanded to be observed in the O.T that are not reterieted in the new testament, but we still observe those ordinances? Why are we against giving? Even when Apostle Paul in Hebrews 7 spent time to address this Tithe issue, why are we still against giving? Today I saw something in the Bible, in psalm 106:36-37. And they serve their idols (the heathens, 'unbelievers'), which were a snare unto them, (the Israelites) Yea, they (heathens) SACRIFIED THEIR SONS AND THEIR DAUGHTERS unto Devils (their god's). The heathens sacrifice their children, their own lovely children to their god's, you are rigorously fighting the 10% out of 100%. No wonder some Christians don't believe that wealth can be gotten without cutting a deal with Satan. To make wealth, you must cheat, lie, steal, sacrifice to Devils, very costly sacrifices. God says bring 10%, just 10%, you wear your boxing gloves to fight it. Your mind and reason takes leave of you. It shouldn't be so. So many here who call themselves Christians, still visit marine prophets and Prophetess, Babalawos to excel in business, why shd this be, when a way is provided for us? What is the evil in Tithing? We stand back and hail the Jews for their Archivements, why won't we ask what they are doing to be so outstanding? Are they more hardworking than you? Are they more intelligent? Are there still levites amongst the Jews today? Why then do they still hold the ordinances of Tithing and First fruits vigorously? I see Satan in the details here. The word says, Give and it shall be given back to you. It doesn't matter who gives or who you give to. Giving in any form or pattern will yield returns to your account. Tithing Commits God to your labour. Besides, Tithe is a debt, that's why you PAY it. You are fighting yourself. 1 Like |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Sanchez01: 12:34pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
DonaTee:What is there to finish? The post is as direct as anything. So your tithe is because you appreciate God? Your own faith is thick. Please read Malachi 3. |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by linusbnn(m): 12:36pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
effty: I didn't say she performed the miracle,but her intercession was what prompted Jesus into performing the miracle. She was address as being blessed among women by Angel Gabriel and pple sees her as a normal woman. If only pple can bear it when their mum is reffered to as common. |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Doobhem(m): 12:36pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Advans:No, bro. December 25th was used to celebrate the Roman God Saturnalia. When Christianity was made a state religion in the Roman empire, there was a lot of substitution in the Roman traditions to make the common heathen accustomed to the new religion. Images and statues of idols were replaced with that of Christ, Mary and other apostles. The day of Saturnalia was replaced with the worship of Christ etc. 'Mass' as a word means celebration that's why there is also one called Michaelmas(Celebration of Angel Michael). Good day |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by linusbnn(m): 12:38pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Muafrika2: We ask her to intercede and take our request to his son JESUS who will channel it to God. Mother's request is hardly declined by the good child. |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by bankybobo11: 12:41pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Sanchez01: But neither did Jesus commend the woman. I'm in agreement with all your points except that of tithe. I'm not cut out for arguing bible misconceptions though |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Doobhem(m): 12:42pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
www.bibleanswerstand.org/tithing2.htm I think this covers everything I like to believe on the tithe thing |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Doobhem(m): 12:43pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by rev2214(m): 12:43pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
linusbnn:The wall of perdition has been removed. We direct access to God through the Blood shed of JESUS The ONLY acceptable name before God is JESUS I was one time President of CYON |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by phanshark(m): 12:44pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Sanchez01:wt about malakai 3:8-10? |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by linusbnn(m): 12:45pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Sanchez01: Give me the name of one of the other children of mary. At the cross, jesus handed over Mary to John the beloved and said mother this is your child and child this is your mother,if there are other children of mary,why will jesus take total possession of her in handling her to john?. Please read John 19:25-27. 1 Like |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by spacohill3(m): 12:48pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
You tried but your Theological approach to all the topics you raised are WRONG AND MYOPIC! even the Philosophy is shallow for great minds. Anyway nice try but study more for better understanding of some things. WHAT A CHILD DOESNT UNDERSTAND HE CALL 'NAMES'. Goodday |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by seunselGic: 12:50pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
If you are not pleased with celebrating Christmas on the 25th of Dec. you are free to choose any other day, what's important is celebrate it in righteousness. Come to think of it, if Dec. 25th was dedicated to celebrate idol in the days of ignorance what is wrong with choosing same day to celebrate the living God. To me it means the defeat of satan. Praise God! |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by tonyx4x44(m): 12:55pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Sanchez01: why sunday for church service ![]() |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by linusbnn(m): 12:56pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
rev2214: If you like be the past pope,it does not make u a Mr.Right. I was an alter server and I went through my catechism with the zeal to know. Mary is the mother of Jesus and she has shown her way of interceding for us as recorded in the marriage feast at CANA. She was reffered to as blessed among women and that she has found favour in the eyes of God by Angel Gabriel. Blessed is the man who is favoured by God. Read through the agony of jesus,his way to the cross and see how fervently she followed up to the death of his son and you feel his son will just abandon her pleads?. May she intercede for you. She is also the Queen of Heaven |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by snailspeed: 12:57pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Advans: Just a little correction here. The early Christians never joined the celebration of Christ's birthday nor adopted it. There is a misconception between the true early Christians and the false Christians. When constantine declared that everyone in the Roman empire were now Christians, the true Christians automoatically became a kind of "minority Christians". These never accepted nor adopted the pagan practices. But over centuries, the false Christians became like the normal representation of Christianity. The true Christians though, have always been and will always be there. They are called the remnant |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by rev2214(m): 12:58pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
spacohill3:The wise should share their wisdom too with the fool and narrow minded. Some people like to keep (secret) of so called good things for themself so they can enslave others. If you've something to say then say it to educate others. 1 Like |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by effty(m): 1:02pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Make a deep analysis of the quoted scriptures nd nt a superficial one. She is blessed among all women for bin d vessel through which the Saviour came to the world. Mind yu, before the pregnancy she was nt regarded as such. Deborah was also a blessed woman. P.S: Stop all those ending ur postulations with "wat if it was ur mother?" I wonder if that is the only reasonable argument Catholic faithfuls ve got. Kip ur emotions aside nd learn linusbnn: |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by snailspeed: 1:04pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
linusbnn: Jesus Himself denied that Mary as His mother. First, when he was twelve years old, he told both Mary and Joseph that he had to go do His father's will. Obviously referring to a different father. When once Mary and his other brothers came to look for Him and someone informed Him that his mother and brothers were around, He said clearl, "Who is my Mother and brothers? Those who ae listening to me are my mother and brothers". Again, when he was on the cross, He looked down and saw John and Mary and said to them "Son behold thy mother and mother, behold thy son". Again, at the upper room, Mary had to wait like every other person to receive the Holy Spirit. There was no special treatment for Mary as mother of Jesus. What is most heretical though is the term, mother of God. God has no mother. Mother of God is a heathen/pagan title giving to the goddess semiramis or astheroth. It is pure idol worship. Those who call Mary the mother of God also call her the queen of heaven. Heaven has no queen. Jesus even said to us clearly that in heaven, there are no males no females. 1 Like |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by Sanchez01: 1:05pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
analice107:Kindly share a verse where Christ commended tithing. @op, I needed you to tell us why I can't take my very handsome and rich senior brother as my husband? Why can't I marry my young father. There are a lot of things commanded to be observed in the O.T that are not reterieted in the new testament, but we still observe those ordinances? Why are we against giving? Even when Apostle Paul in Hebrews 7 spent time to address this Tithe issue, why are we still against giving?I don't know why some people enjoy telling lies against the Bible. Hebrews 7 is a recap of the Old Testament account. And note, Levite were mentioned. So, please, in your own way, explain how Paul addressed tithing and how Christians should pay it in the New dispensation. The heathens sacrifice their children, their own lovely children to their god's, you are rigorously fighting the 10% out of 100%. No wonder some Christians don't believe that wealth can be gotten without cutting a deal with Satan.You're referring to Malachi 3:7-8. It's tiring really to explain this time and time again. Are you a Jew? Your pastor asking for tithes, is he a Levite from the tribe of Israel? Have you ever bought what your souls lusts after with your money to eat in form of tithe as commanded by God in Leviticus? Mosaic Laws died with the introduction of the New Testament, save a few that was modified. So many here who call themselves Christians, still visit marine prophets and Prophetess, Babalawos to excel in business, why shd this be, when a way is provided for us?This is off topic. What is the evil in Tithing?There's no evil in it, Just one of the many Old Testament practices that died in the New but was in a way revived so pastors will not starve, since the offerings are not enough. Are there still levites amongst the Jews today? Why then do they still hold the ordinances of Tithing and First fruits vigorously?First fruits started with Jacob and Esau and not the Jews per say. It did not start because Levites could feed from it. First fruits were to God exclusively. I see Satan in the details here. The word says, Give and it shall be given back to you. It doesn't matter who gives or who you give to. Giving in any form or pattern will yield returns to your account.You are not seeing right, sorry. The Word talks of giving and being given back, but not tithe. It was offering. It was no mistake that Christ ignored tithing in His teachings. Giving in form of any Patterson yields, yes, but please, do not bundle offering, first fruits, giving to the needy and giving to the cause of God into one because they are all different. Besides, Tithe is a debt, that's why you PAY it.Pastors love it when they make you feel you're guilty and unworthy to come before God. Tithing is NOT a debt. It was a compulsory practice to make sure that Levites were eating and feeding well at the expense of others, and this is because God commanded them not to have any part of the inheritance of Israel. Jesus Christ was from the tribe of Judah. It would have been very easy for Him to pay tithes just so He could demonstrate that Levites were at a disadvantage and needed to be looked after. Please ponder on this and don't respond like a dogmatic Christian. These so called pastors would not even tell you there different kinds of tithes. I'm so sure you don't know this. What pastors understand is "bring money". I perform my other obligations, ranging from giving to offerings and so on. Tithing as a practice is long gone but pastors won't tell you this because it would affect them in a horrible way. 1 Like |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by rev2214(m): 1:06pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
linusbnn:Yes, she is mother of JESUS Yes God chose her and she is blessed among women. But God did all of that to set man free from looking up to other human in worship. That is why the blood of JESUS was shed for sins. And we are free to approach God directly. And she can't intercede for me because she is not a priest. Only priest intercede for people. |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by snailspeed: 1:07pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
seunselGic: Actually, there is no where in the bible that we are supposed to celebrate the birth of Christ. No where. There is a reason the birth of Christ celebration was introduced. It is pure a pagan and devilish reason. We are supposed to celebrate the feasts of God, not som eman made celebrations |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by dreams1987(m): 1:07pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
Sanchez01:I don't know how u see it buh the important thing there is the significance of the birth of christ. If a day set aside for a roman god has now been converted to celebrate the birth of our lord Jesus then its a wonderful thing. As long as the significance of Jesus christ's birth is know then its a good thing |
Re: What The Bible Teaches About These Five Church Practices by linusbnn(m): 1:08pm On Mar 13, 2016 |
rev2214: Where is mary? |
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