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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:06pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Other clubs are not rushing him coz their respective coaches are doing well. Even when Guardiola was available which clubs were chasing him? ONLY City jare. Utd weren't. Madrid weren't. PSG weren't. The other rich clubs that could chase him were either doing fine or can't afford the wages that City brought. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:08pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Dadehmola: But no top club is experiencing crisis like Utd. PSG are okay. Bayern are okay. Barca are doing great. Juve too. Madrid reached out but he turned them down. So as it stands, only Utd is worthy team that Mourinho can go to. That's why it seems like Mourinho ain't getting offers from many clubs. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:12pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Dadehmola: Well, the situation on ground makes it hard for top clubs to chase him. I can't recall any top club that can afford him in crisis like that of Utd's. Plus, his cup of sins has been filled up and running over. His last stunts at Shekpe broke the camel's back. Top clubs are now wary of him. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:13pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
GBR1:Ancellotti got sacked after winning a double, especially the CL trophy which Mourinho tried hard to win at Madrid but failed woefully while playing the most ugly football everseen in the tournament. The problem with Ancelotti in his following year started when the president started forcing players like James and Kroos on him, the loss of Modric to injury and the lack of proper replacement for Alonso as it's well known that Kroos is better in a much more attacking role than in a holding role. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:15pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
sinizia: My opinion is clear, LvG failed at Man Utd. Mainly because some of his transfers failed him and the excessive injury. He is the coach and should take the blame and be fired How does Mourinho gurantee any form of success for Man Utd? You think this is 2004 where he had unrestrcited access to money above everyone? Let me ask you if you give Mourinho this same Man Utd squad with the flops like Depay playing like they are now and with half the team injured, what do you think Mourinho would achieve with them? Simple answer If it was Mourinho of 10yrs ago and was available even if he was beating everyone on his way all clubs would have found a way to get him WHen a top coach is available No one cares whether you(Blanc) are having a good season you would be fired. After Mourinho left Madrid PSG were making moves for him despite the fact he left Madrid in fight E.g as at December Pellegrini wasnt doing badly. He was in all competitions. In Carling final, In CL second round still in contention for the league yet when pep became available they didnt even think twice. Even if Pellegrini wins them 4 trophies this season they dont care they see being coached by Pep as a lifetime opportunity. That was Mourinhos status 10yrs ago |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:17pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
sinizia:The aforementioned clubs are doing okay because someone laid the foundation for them. That's what manutd should aim at, not a short term success that would brings us back to square 1 at the end of Mourinho reign. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 11:17pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
sinizia: That's exactly my point... We were doing well under Fergie when he decided to step down - there was no way we woulda replaced him with a recent relegation battler, no matter how impressive the later's CV is.. Mou's impressive CV and success records take precedence over Chelsea's horrible relegation form under him because of the urgent need for us to replace a Manager that is arguably worse than the clueless and pathetic Moyes! ! We are actually saying the same thing albeit in different ways.. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 11:17pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Dadehmola:Yes, we would gladly look to it, if that coach was the current EPL winner, if the coach has 22 major trophies in various leagues, if the coach has won a league title everywhere he's been.... Yes we would be looking forward to it if that coach was Jose Mourinho as it now. In fact i was pained when i realized we would be getting Moyes when Fergie retired instead of Mourinho who was available that period as he just left Madrid. I remember the CL match we lost to Madrid and Jose's reaction in the post match conference. He said the better team lost and was very humble about results regards us. He wanted the united job. It's was his dream job but we threw that all away with Moyes appointment and now in my opinion this appointment is 3 years late already. sinizia, chrisley024, LVG has been very successful at fooling a lot of people in various ways. Who remembers sometime earlier in the season when we were on the verge of breaking a very old record of having at least someone from the academy in the team squad? Why did that almost happen if he was so good at giving youth chances? Some folks would also say he kept a thin squad so academy players would get chances but this is false too. When almost everyone was fit earlier in the season with no injuries, LVG was finding it hard to place players from the academy on the bench( not even to start them). The major reason these players are getting such chances now is injuries to the first team guys. Another reason is that LVG has realized he has failed and wants to leave as much as you can call a legacy by giving debuts to several players in the hope that some of them can become successful after he's gone. So that later we can look back and pay homage to him I think i would start bursting other myths regards LVG. Too many folks have been deceived like Kagawa10. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 11:20pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
sinizia: Bayern Munich boss Guardiola will succeed Manuel Pellegrini at the Etihad next season after agreeing a three-year contract with the club. Guardiola announced in December that he will leave the Bundesliga champions in the summer with the intent to coach in the Premier League. City, Manchester United and Chelsea were all linked with the former Barcelona boss. http://www.espnfc.us/barclays-premier-league/story/2798519/man-city-beat-united-and-chelsea-to-pep-guardiola-sources http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/chelsea-and-manchester-city-fight-for-pep-guardiola-as-manchester-united-concede-defeat-a6800426.html |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:24pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
GBR1:You obviously forgot about Lingard whom Lvg mentioned as to the reason he wasn't interested in Pedro because he thinks Lingard is ready to contribute much more this season. Really, it is you who should back up your claims rather making baseless assumption everywhere yet accuSing others of making assumptions. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:31pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
sinizia:LOL! LVG could have used a makeshift player you know! Fergie using Rafeal in midfield rings a bell! And the thing is Depay has been tried in a striker role and was quite decent there. Lvg could have used depay but he chose to promote Rashford, especially in an important must win game! That takes some ball and I'm sure Mourinho would never tried such in a million year! What about Lingard? Did you suddenly forget about him? Abeg! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:34pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
raumdeuter: The answer is that Mourinho won't achieve anything with this useless squad. But fact remains that Mourinho wouldn't even purchase these kinda players. He won't convert a RW to a LB. He won't. Okay, now that you've admitted that LVG is a failure, would you still want this failure to continue assuming it's your club? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:34pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Nihilist:Which nonsense? Why don't you state the foundation you have seen Mourinho make at a club? Yeye! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:37pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
sinizia:Yet Sahin was used as a left back at Madrid under mourinho? Abeg leave story! And you failed to realise that the conversion happened while we were using a 3-5-2 formation that involves wing backs! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:37pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Kagawa10:LvG has laid the foundation, we appreciate. It's time for him to fúck off before the foundation collapses. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 11:38pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
raumdeuter:Always remember i would be here to stop you when you tell lies and use logic haphazardly on this thread. The interval between Mourinho's sacking and Ancelloti's appointment is about 3 days and this suggests Bayern were already in negiotations with Ancelotti to take over before Mourinho got sacked. So how could Bayern sign Jose when he was still in a job then? I expected better from you. Mourinho has been sacked from two clubs precisely Chelsea and Madrid and i hope it interests you to know that Ancelloti has been sacked by those two respective clubs. Infact he has been sacked more times than Jose and he's still considered a top manager. Madrid has begged him recently various times to return even before Benitez got fired so i don't know what you are on about again. Now you stating news from very shady sources as fact because you want to prove a point and i don't really need to go on. What has united done to you? 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:38pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Dadehmola:So you want Gaal to continue even though it'd cost us? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:40pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
sinizia:Acquiring someone who had almost relegated his team recently isn't the way forward though. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 11:40pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
just sum your sh.it up and tell us mourinho is not a good coach cause it seems as if that is what you are implying, but if not, i'd advice you shut the hell up and stop bringing up stoopid arguments and allow us sign the dude I don't see what the argument is here, if I ask you now if mourinho is a good coach or not, you'll definitely say he is, so what the hell are you arguing for? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 11:44pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
GBR1:That's fat lie! Madrid never begged Mourinho to return. It was just speculation that the president might want him back. Ancellotti is 10 times better than Mourinho. All the trophy he won were did with Gusto, attacking Flairs, fluid passing which is quite better than the park the bus master! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:44pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
raumdeuter: I know this, but it's all rumors. Chelsea have longed be rumored to be seeking Simeone's hand. Everyone knows this. Utd weren't contemplating on sacking LvG and that also rules out Man Utd angle. City was the main and only feasible target for Guardiola. City used their director of football who worked with Guardiola at Barca to lure Guardiola to Etihad |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:48pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Kagawa10: LVG uses makeshift players all the time nau. Mata at the wings instead of AM. Blind at CB instead of DM. Darmian at LB instead of RB. Val at RB instead of RW. This is not an excuse. I repeat LvG had NO choice but to choose the youths. If he doesn't play Rash, will he forfeit him and play with 10 men or the injured Rooney? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 11:50pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Kagawa10:I'm really sorry for you as a united fan who believes everything LVG says. LVG was interested in Pedro, in fact he was so interested that he mentioned him as the kind of player with speed and creativity that we needed. Woodward left England but failed to complete the deal. The fact that he failed in acquiring him or that he was snatched from us by chelsea does not change the truth. LVG is quite arrogant and stubborn and he was only trying to save face regards the use of lingard later. I'm really sorry for that you are so blind that and cannot see the truth even when it's shoved into your face. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:50pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Kagawa10: For how many matches? Even when a recognized LB was fit he still played Sahin at the LB? I disagree. In Utd's case, Darmian would be fit and the Idíot will still use Young as a RB!! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dadehmola: 11:51pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
sinizia: Haba! Where did I suggest such?? Lemme even say something sef - If Moyes is the only option available as we speak, (God forbid), I wouldn't mind him replacing LVG! My position on this issue is clear - our standards have fallen so badly, we actually wouldn't mind replacing our useless manager with someone who was recently kicked out at Chelsea for battling relegation. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:53pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Kagawa10: I need a new coach with years of quality service, it mustn't be Mourinho. ANY top coach. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by GBR1(m): 11:56pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
Kagawa10:It's not just speculation. It's was reported by reputable news outlets/journalists both in Spain and England. The most recent update about Mourinho to united contained similar reports about Jose to Madrid which supports what i said. Madrid made various approaches, not even a single one. So google up, find out and read. I can't be spoon-feeding you every time. BTW, please don't make this an argument between Jose and Ancelloti. I won't warn you again. dopeJemi:You don't even need to worry; I think it's a done deal already. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 11:58pm On Mar 30, 2016 |
GBR1: No mind Kagawa. His bad time at Utd is making him forget the truths. Gaal has always said he need a good pacy winger to compensate for Maria's sale. Pedro was the guy and after we lost him and he saw Mata was actually shít on the wings for Utd, he had NO choice than to bring in Lingaard. And regards your other post, I agree with you. I remember how Mourinho spoke nicely about Utd after that loss and most Utd fans wanted him only for Fergie to goof and give us Calamity Moyes. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by sinizia: 12:01am On Mar 31, 2016 |
Dadehmola: Fear wan catch me o. I thought you wanted to suggest that LvG was doing well at Utd. Well, you are bang on point in your last paragraph. If things were as we all wished or dreamnt, we wouldn't be screaming for Mourinho. We are now desperate. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 12:04am On Mar 31, 2016 |
sinizia:This is even funny because you admitted Lvg had often use makeshift player, then why didn't he do that in the striker role considering Depay is good there rather than promoting an unknown player? You're sounding like a broken record already! Also, all the liste makeshift player were done with good reasons. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Kagawa10: 12:09am On Mar 31, 2016 |
GBR1:That's a lie! Madrid never wanted him! The most important thing is that the fans never really warmed up to Mourinho in the first place for his constant defensive boring football and the liga clubs as opposed to the Epl clubs are owned by the fans, not owners! Hence, there's no way the president would have wanted him when the fans opposed it. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 12:12am On Mar 31, 2016 |
GBR1: This is why I told you that you are a football illiterate who wouldnt listen How long does it take clubs to make appointment? Do you think this is civil service? How long did it take to appoint Hiddink when Mourinho was fired? How long did it take Chelsea to appoint Hiddink when Scolari was fired? Pep Notified Bayern he would not be extending mid december around the same time Mourinho was fired and in a matter of days they contacted Carlo and sealed a deal all these happened within days Mourinho has been sacked from two clubs precisely Chelsea and Madrid and i hope it interests you to know that Ancelloti has been sacked by those two respective clubs. Infact he has been sacked more times than Jose and he's still considered a top manager. Below is a link with a quote from Perez saying they dont want Mourinho. where you got your own fake news from only God knows http://www.espnfc.us/real-madrid/story/2761453/jose-mourinho-not-coming-to-real-madrid-florentino-perez |
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