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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:24pm On Mar 30, 2016
jayriginal:


This is disingenuous.

The argument wouldn't be if trees or rocks exist. They can be empirically be proven to exist.

The argument would be if they are God(s).

You are missing the point I was trying to make . I'll let you figure it out
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by Nobody: 8:35pm On Mar 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

God promised the Israelites Canaan - it was their possession and their motive was divine
So, if a neighbor's servant moves into your house claiming his God had given ownership of the place, you'd just move out?

There were people in Canaan. Why didn't your God provide a place for them?

As usual, having a conversation with you is like trying to clean a spot on my cheek by rubbing my image in a mirror.

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:41pm On Mar 30, 2016
sonOfLucifer:

So, if a neighbor's servant moves into your house claiming his God had given ownership of the place, you'd just move out?

There were people in Canaan. Why didn't your God provide a place for them?

As usual, having a conversation with you is like trying to clean a spot on my cheek by rubbing my image in a mirror.

I dont like discussing the bible with atheists . Its a complete waste of time . Can we just stick to the God-exists-God-does-not-exist arguments smiley

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by Nobody: 8:45pm On Mar 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I dont like discussing the bible with atheists . Its a complete waste of time . Can we just stick to the God-exists-God-does-not-exist arguments smiley
I get you.

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by jayriginal: 9:31pm On Mar 30, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You are missing the point I was trying to make . I'll let you figure it out

I didn't. Rather you misstated the problem.
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by wiegraf: 2:25am On Mar 31, 2016
ogechieku:
If you choose to make it bad then it becomes bad.

So freewill is good only if you use it to do good as dictated by you or your god?
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by JackBizzle: 7:46am On Mar 31, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


grin . Stop telling lies to please void . Hitler was a confirmed atheist who attempted obliterating Christianity in Germany . He committed atrocities just like his brother in the void and strong atheist President Kim of North Korea . Hitler was only a catholic during his youth days . Who argues against facts . Atheists are ashamed that Hitler shared the same world views as them . Deal with it stop telling blatant lies - ignorance makes you argue against facts

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by dblackninja: 8:05am On Mar 31, 2016
I didn't want to leave a reply in this thread before but because ogechieku wasted my precious time with this nonsense (just thoughts from underage & deluded minds), I couldn't leave without telling her to upgrade her brain chemistry.

She brought a nonsense and told people to come and argue on that; no wonder no body took you serious in your part 1 & part 2 nonsense. You even promised that you won't bring up part 3 if "the atheists" weren't able to rebut 1&2, yet out of your "sick mind" you still posted 3 without asking yourself whether your previous posts made sense, if so why:

- are people counseling you instead of rebutting your points(nonsense),
-the lack of interest.

To show you how delusional & clueless the op is (she's filled with immature sentiments), the people she called upon are using her thread to spray their mat. They have hijacked the thread to discuss meaningful topics with merit, & totally ignore the nonsense the op spewed lipsrsealed that's why this part even reached up to 4 pgs. undecided

Please for your own good op, go & seek advice from people that can help you develop your brain for rational thinking & don't come back here spewing another nonsense as part 4,... wink

Meanwhile nice logical thinking from sonOfLucifer KingEbukasBlog frank317 jayriginal to mention a few. Kudos cool

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:44am On Mar 31, 2016
JackBizzle:


Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by JackBizzle: 10:16am On Mar 31, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:
Trying to dodge the reality that Hitler was a christian.....


https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#Mein_Kampf_.281925-1926.29


Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. (p. 65)

Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as long as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the scheming of political parties. (p. 116)

This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief. (p. 152)

Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time. A fight for freedom had begun mightier than the earth had ever seen; for once Destiny had begun its course, the conviction dawned on even the broad masses that this time not the fate of Serbia or Austria was involved, but whether the German nation was to be or not to be. (p. 161)
And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God. (p. 174)
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:27pm On Mar 31, 2016
JackBizzle:



https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#Mein_Kampf_.281925-1926.29


Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord. (p. 65)

Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as long as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the scheming of political parties. (p. 116)

This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief. (p. 152)

Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time. A fight for freedom had begun mightier than the earth had ever seen; for once Destiny had begun its course, the conviction dawned on even the broad masses that this time not the fate of Serbia or Austria was involved, but whether the German nation was to be or not to be. (p. 161)
And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God. (p. 174)

These are quotes of him when he was a christian . stop the disingenuousness , you certainly know what I'm talking about
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 5:35pm On Mar 31, 2016
jayriginal:


I didn't. Rather you misstated the problem.

1. Atheism believes that there is no god - no proof for any god's existence . The fact that trees and rocks are worshiped as gods refutes that .

2. If you are trying to make an argument to disprove my first statement with this:

The argument would be if they are God(s).

Then it simply implies that an eternal conscious entity surely does exist but its not God .

With this understanding we Christians have to prove that the eternal conscious being/entity that exists is our God . Right ?

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by jayriginal: 7:53pm On Mar 31, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


1. Atheism believes that there is no god - no proof for any god's existence . The fact that trees and rocks are worshiped as gods refutes that .

2. If you are trying to make an argument to disprove my first statement with this:



Then it simply implies that an eternal conscious entity surely does exist but its not God .

With this understanding we Christians have to prove that the eternal conscious being/entity that exists is our God . Right ?

1) Atheism is the non belief in a God, not the belief that there is no God. A practice based on a mistaken belief doesn't validate that belief. One might as well say Zeus, Poseidon and the host of Greek Gods exist because we have the Olympics.

2) What I said was the argument isn't whether trees and rocks exist. They do. The argument is if the trees and rocks are the Gods they are claimed to be. I'm speaking literally not metaphorically.
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:13pm On Mar 31, 2016
jayriginal:


1) Atheism is the non belief in a God, not the belief that there is no God. A practice based on a mistaken belief doesn't validate that belief. One might as well say Zeus, Poseidon and the host of Greek Gods exist because we have the Olympics.

The emboldened text is not lucid enough . So you are saying that indeed there is a God - an eternal conscious creator - but you atheists dont believe in Him ?


2) What I said was the argument isn't whether trees and rocks exist. They do. The argument is if the trees and rocks are the Gods they are claimed to be. I'm speaking literally not metaphorically.

No you are the one making the argument - if the trees and rocks are the gods they are purported to be .

The point I was trying to make is that since he is an atheist - assumes there is no God or no god exists - then trees and rocks worshiped as gods dont exist . Which obviously does not make any sense . So with this understanding , we can conclude that an eternal conscious entity does exist but the atheist chose not to see him as a God .

I mean the tree or rocks can be empirically proven to exist . Macro-evolution which no one has observed can be putatively proven through certain "scientific" methods . So this eternal conscious entity does exist and His existence can be proven though certain ways . Right ?
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by JackBizzle: 8:14pm On Mar 31, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


These are quotes of him when he was a christian . stop the disingenuousness , you certainly know what I'm talking about

Do you know when he wrote mein kampf?

He was around 36 years old (1889-1926) when he made those christian quotes
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:26pm On Mar 31, 2016
JackBizzle:


Do you know when he wrote mein kampf?

He was around 36 years old (1889-1926) when he made those christian quotes

... then he became an atheist later and committed heinous acts against humanity . End of story

The same way you are now an atheist after departing from your religious faith
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by jayriginal: 8:43pm On Mar 31, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


The emboldened text is not lucid enough . So you are saying that indeed there is a God - an eternal conscious creator - but you atheists dont believe in Him ?




No you are the one making the argument - if the trees and rocks are the gods they are purported to be .

The point I was trying to make is that since he is an atheist - assumes there is no God or no god exists - then trees and rocks worshiped as gods dont exist . Which obviously does not make any sense . So with this understanding , we can conclude that an eternal conscious entity does exist but the atheist chose not to see him as a God .

I mean the tree or rocks can be empirically proven to exist . Macro-evolution which no one has observed can be putatively proven through certain "scientific" methods . So this eternal conscious entity does exist and His existence can be proven though certain ways . Right ?

I'm not sure how anyone can interpret a non belief in a thing as saying that the thing exists but one does not believe in it. Please tell me you're trolling.

Secondly your trees and rock example is ridiculous. Following that to its logical conclusion it means if I revere a tree as a whargarble it means whargarbles exist?

Eric Clapton is a Rock God. That means God exists?
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:47pm On Mar 31, 2016
jayriginal:


I'm not sure how anyone can interpret a non belief in a thing as saying that the thing exists but one does not believe in it. Please tell me you're trolling.

Secondly your trees and rock example is ridiculous. Following that to its logical conclusion it means if I revere a tree as a whargarble it means whargarbles exist?

Eric Clapton is a Rock God. That means God exists?

jayriginal:


1) Atheism is the non belief in a God, not the belief that there is no God

I deduced from the above post that God indeed exists but you dont believe in Him . How am I wrong ?
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by Nobody: 8:48pm On Mar 31, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:

Seriously ?
Seriously
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by jayriginal: 8:52pm On Mar 31, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:




I deduced from the above post that God indeed exists but you dont believe in Him . How am I wrong ?

This is incredible!

Are you seriously having difficulty with this?

How can someone say X is Y (statement of fact) but I don't believe X is Y.

How does a statement of I don't believe in a god translate to a god exists but I don't believe in it?
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by JackBizzle: 8:58pm On Mar 31, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


... then he became an atheist later and committed heinous acts against humanity . End of story

The same way you are now an atheist after departing from your religious faith


1) When exactly did he become an atheist? Do you have a supporting quote after he wrote his mein kampf?

2) Mein kampf already contained his anti-semitic bile. So he was a christian when he already had plans to exterminate Jews.




I now know that you tell bold lies. I have give dates, quotes and references, while you just lie through your teeth.

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 9:17pm On Mar 31, 2016
jayriginal:


This is incredible!

Are you seriously having difficulty with this?

How can someone say X is Y (statement of fact) but I don't believe X is Y.

How does a statement of I don't believe in a god translate to a god exists but I don't believe in it?

You seem to be the one trolling here . Here is your statement :

1) Atheism is the non belief in a God, not the belief that there is no God.



We all know atheism as the belief there is no God . Meaning they dont exist . Then you are now saying no , Atheism is the non belief in a God . This simply means that there is indeed an eternal conscious entity but you dont see him as a God . Same way trees and rocks exist but you do not have the belief that they are gods

cc : winner01 , Joshthefirst , UyiIredia . Please oo am I misunderstanding this undecided

Abeg just stick to your we-believe-there-is-no-God-He-does-not-exist stance and stop obfuscating issues smiley smiley

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by jayriginal: 10:01pm On Mar 31, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You seem to be the one trolling here . Here is your statement :





We all know atheism as the belief there is no God . Meaning they dont exist . Then you are now saying no , Atheism is the non belief in a God . This simply means that there is indeed an eternal conscious entity but you dont see him as a God . Same way trees and rocks exist but you do not have the belief that they are gods

cc : winner01 , Joshthefirst , UyiIredia . Please oo am I misunderstanding this undecided

Abeg just stick to your we-believe-there-is-no-God-He-does-not-exist stance and stop obfuscating issues smiley smiley

For the life of me, I cannot figure out how you arrived at this conclusion.

I will state it again. An atheist doesn't believe in god/gods. Atheism is not the belief that there is no god.

To go from the above to assume that I'm saying that there is a god but I don't believe in it is bewildering.

If anybody were to make that kind of statement I would recommend the persons committal.

Also, you argue a lot with atheists but you haven't the foggiest notion of what atheism is.
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by Richirich713: 3:28am On Apr 01, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You seem to be the one trolling here . Here is your statement :





We all know atheism as the belief there is no God . Meaning they dont exist . Then you are now saying no , Atheism is the non belief in a God . This simply means that there is indeed an eternal conscious entity but you dont see him as a God . Same way trees and rocks exist but you do not have the belief that they are gods

cc : winner01 , Joshthefirst , UyiIredia . Please oo am I misunderstanding this undecided

Abeg just stick to your we-believe-there-is-no-God-He-does-not-exist stance and stop obfuscating issues smiley smiley

Lol grin I guess trees are Atheists as well.

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by orisa37: 4:00am On Apr 01, 2016
Atheists are deaf and dumb.
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by UyiIredia(m): 6:16am On Apr 01, 2016
jayriginal:



I will state it again. An atheist doesn't believe in god/gods. Atheism is not the belief that there is no god.


Interesting. So what is atheism ? The belief that there is God abi. You are being foolish. One can have no belief in God and as well believe there is no God.
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by jayriginal: 7:56am On Apr 01, 2016
UyiIredia:


Interesting. So what is atheism ? The belief that there is God abi. You are being foolish. One can have no belief in God and as well believe there is no God.

The foolish one is the person who thinks that non belief in a thing automatically equates to a belief in the opposite of that thing.


If you cannot discuss with civility I won't bother with you.
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by winner01(m): 8:01am On Apr 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


You seem to be the one trolling here . Here is your statement :





We all know atheism as the belief there is no God . Meaning they dont exist . Then you are now saying no , Atheism is the non belief in a God . This simply means that there is indeed an eternal conscious entity but you dont see him as a God . Same way trees and rocks exist but you do not have the belief that they are gods

cc : winner01 , Joshthefirst , UyiIredia . Please oo am I misunderstanding this undecided

Abeg just stick to your we-believe-there-is-no-God-He-does-not-exist stance and stop obfuscating issues smiley smiley
grin grin lol. confusion. A trademark of the devils dealings. grin grin

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Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:18am On Apr 03, 2016
winner01:
grin grin lol. confusion. A trademark of the devils dealings. grin grin

I tire oo grin grin
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by winner01(m): 10:03am On Apr 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


I tire oo grin grin
Lol...How have you been bro?
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by CoolUsername: 11:13am On Apr 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


These are quotes of him when he was a christian . stop the disingenuousness , you certainly know what I'm talking about

'Gott Mitt Uns' was on the Nazi uniform belt.
Re: Why I Hate Atheism With Passion Part 3 (Atheism Eternally Condemned) by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:21am On Apr 03, 2016
winner01:
Lol...How have you been bro?
I am great bro . I thank God For Everything . How you dey ?

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