ATMC:
You are likely the ignorant one. This is because most living things came from dust and return to dust. If serpent eats dust, do not let your uninformed mind think it is the dust on your window panes.


Keep studying. Keep an open mind. It is important.

itstpia8:
It eats dust.

kobosmalls:
Did u even care to read that bible verse? Huh... I pity ur folly. Let me help u comprehend the verse, "because u have done this, u are cursed more than all cattle and beast....u shall eat dust all the days of your life".
From ur comment u meant that eating dust all the days of your life means dying all the days of ur life. So a snake dies everyday for the rest of its life?
From that verse too " cursed worse than the cattle means that it was a special curse and not referring to the condition of all living things coming from and going to the dust like u would have me believe.
You eat meat too but it wasn't named a curse.
Keep an open mind bro cos u need it more than I do.

kobosmalls:

What I should have done is to make proper inquiries as to what the serpent feeds on before showing my level of carelessness.

ATMC:
Let me see if YOUR shallow-already-madeup-unwilling-to-learn mind will grab. I did not say serpent die daily. Meanwhile, does Man still till the ground to get his eats? No! Some people feed off pen and paper. I hope you know that man wasn't commanded to eat meat? The act of eating meat resulted from the effect of the flood. No green plant, and so God told Noah to eat meat. "Dust shall you eat" is not what you insinuated.

ATMC:
You are likely the ignorant one. This is because most living things came from dust and return to dust. If serpent eats dust, do not let your uninformed mind think it is the dust on your window panes.


Keep studying. Keep an open mind. It is important.

donnie:
Genesis 3:14 and 15 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heeel.



In the statement, thou art cursed above all cattle, we can conclude that before that curse the Serpent had legs, which God took away causing it to crawl on his belly. It was originally one of the cattle.

The second part about eating dust is also part of the punishment since being low to the ground it would now be impossible for the Serpent to avoid the dust and would be forced to do so for as long as he lived.

And then finally, about bruising the head of the serpent: Even though this was a prophetic declaration of what her seed, Jesus, will do, natural man seems to fulfil this as well... his first response at the sight of a snake is to bruise its head.

CoolUsername:


Weird, because the Bible clearly refers to flesh as 'flesh' in all other parts.

Your assertion sounds like mental gymnastics to me. I've always wondered why Bible verses suddenly stop being literal once they cannot stand the test of reality.

kobosmalls:


At last someone who still thinks like a human with an extensively developed cns and not these other brain dead zombies.

kobosmalls:


I am a brain dead zombie.

bolaji3071:



Well I won't advice other born again christians in this section to argue with you. I can't change you, Neither can they..it is only God that can do that.

You can't understand the bible except you are born again and have the holy spirit in you.. The word of the Lord(bible) is more deeper than just craming a verse and trying to use your own human knowledge to decode what it really means.


I just pray that you receive the touch of Christ so that you can really understand.

Please, why must everything that sounds wrong have a symbolic meaning and others that sound correct have literal meanings?

cloudgoddess:

There is really nothing to understand, except what OP has already said. The bible, when approached critically and not with pre-existing bias which all Christians share, is full of many extremely questionable and downright false claims about nature and the universe we live in. The reason you think there must be a deeper meaning and that OP is not accurate in his criticisms, is because you have been indoctrinated to see the bible as a flawless book that can never be criticized. No matter what flaws are exposed in your religious book, you will make an excuse for it because that is how indoctrination controls people's minds.

I quote OP here:

This is something that all religious apologists do. When a flaw is pointed out, suddenly "it was meant figuratively". Yet in other verses that seem to uplift or validate the religion, "it means exactly what it says". Special pleading fallacy.

What you're asking OP to do when you say he must accept your religion to properly understand, is dispel his reasoning and blindly follow a text full of contradictions, natural falsehoods and unproven claims. You're telling him, "become indoctrinated like me so you can be driven to try & make sense out of the senseless."

CoolUsername:


Weird, because the Bible clearly refers to flesh as 'flesh' in all other parts.

Your assertion sounds like mental gymnastics to me. I've always wondered why Bible verses suddenly stop being literal once they cannot stand the test of reality.

bolaji3071:



Well I won't advice other born again christians in this section to argue with you. I can't change you, Neither can they..it is only God that can do that.

You can't understand the bible except you are born again and have the holy spirit in you.. The word of the Lord(bible) is more deeper than just craming a verse and trying to use your own human knowledge to decode what it really means.


I just pray that you receive the touch of Christ so that you can really understand.

ATMC:
You are likely the ignorant one. This is because [b] most living things came from dust [/b]and return to dust. If serpent eats dust, do not let your uninformed mind think it is the dust on your window panes.


Keep studying. Keep an open mind. It is important.

kobosmalls:

Funny how Jesus said he came for the sinners and not the righteous or born again like u claim.
If the bible wasn't to be understood by mere human understanding, then why was it written in human friendly language.
Why don't God himself come down and explain this book of blunders and contradictions called the bible instead of u trying to defend him. Are u really sure u are defending god or ur own insecurities about this book of lies.

cloudgoddess:

There is really nothing to understand, except what OP has already said. The bible, when approached critically and not with pre-existing bias which all Christians share, is full of many extremely questionable and downright false claims about nature and the universe we live in. The reason you think there must be a deeper meaning and that OP is not accurate in his criticisms, is because you have been indoctrinated to see the bible as a flawless book that can never be criticized. No matter what flaws are exposed in your religious book, you will make an excuse for it because that is how indoctrination controls people's minds.

I quote OP here:

This is something that all religious apologists do. When a flaw is pointed out, suddenly "it was meant figuratively". Yet in other verses that seem to uplift or validate the religion, "it means exactly what it says". Special pleading fallacy.

What you're asking OP to do when you say he must accept your religion to properly understand, is dispel his reasoning and blindly follow a text full of contradictions, natural falsehoods and unproven claims. You're telling him, "become indoctrinated like me so you can be driven to try & make sense out of the senseless."

ATMC:
Touché. I'll get back to you. Your last sentence got me thinking.

kobosmalls:


So u really retained that brain activity called "thinking"?
I thought u lost it to religious faith.
Please wake that ability up and free ur self from lies that shouldn't survive elementary school education.
We are a humans( the thinking man).

kobosmalls:


So u really retained that brain activity called "thinking"?
I thought u lost it to religious faith.
Please wake that ability up and free ur self from lies that shouldn't survive elementary school education.
We are a humans( the thinking man).

wirinet:


In hypothesize that there are two species of man on the planet today, there is the acknowledged Homo Sapiens (thinking man) and Homo Religio (religious man). Homo Sapiens survive by thinking while Homo Religio is only concerned about matters of faith. Homo Religio is prominent in Nigeria and most developing countries.