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THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by mazeltov(m): 8:45pm On Apr 13, 2016
A Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) interceptor is launched during a successful intercept test, in this undated handout photo provided by the U.S. Department of Defense, Missile Defense Agency. Photo: REUTERS/U.S. Department of Defense, Missile Defense Agency/Handout via Reuters
As the United States and South Korea continue to discuss about the potential deployment of the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense missile system, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov expressed concern Tuesday over the possible move. Washington and Seoul are mulling to install THAAD system in the Korean Peninsula to counter threats from North Korea that has carried nuclear and missile tests since the beginning of this year.
“Together with our Chinese friends, we realize that following this course will create a real threat to the security of our countries, and destabilize the strategic stability in Northeast Asia,” Lavrov said, according to China's Xinhua News Agency.
The Russian foreign minister noted that while Moscow and Beijing respect North Korea’s right to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, the two countries do not support Pyongyang’s nuclear ambitions. Russia and China are committed to the denuclearization of the peninsula and the resuming of the six-party talks, which is “the real way to resolve the Korean Peninsula nuclear issue,” Lavrov said.
Last month, the two countries — the strongest supporters of the Kim Jong Un-led regime — urged North Korea to reopen international talks on its nuclear program and abide by a United Nations Security Council resolution that does not allow Pyongyang’s missile tests. The reclusive nation has threatened to carry out more nuclear tests after it said in February that it launched a rocket and test-fired missiles this year.
Following this, Washington and Seoul formally began talks over the possible deployment of THAAD missile system.
Lt. Gen. David Mann, commanding general of the U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command, told Defense News last month that THAAD “would obviously be a huge increase in capability, really proving more of a layered missile defense there on the peninsula. ... It’s very, very important that we clarify that that radar, that system, is not looking at China. That system is oriented, if the decision is made to deploy it, that system would be oriented on North Korea.”
China has maintained its opposition to the THAAD deployment, saying the system could be used to monitor its missile launches as far inland as Xian in the northwest. Seoul, which has substantial trade ties with the world’s second-largest economy, has previously denied any formal discussion about the installation of THAAD, which can reportedly shoot down short-, medium- and immediate-range ballistic missiles. [img]https://www.yahoo.com/sy/uu/api/res/1.2/S98_nFdeLo.52icjw3bWtw--/Zmk9c3RyaW07aD0zODA7cHlvZmY9MDtxPTgwO3c9MzgwO3NtPTE7YXBwaWQ9eXRhY2h5b24-/http://slingstone.zenfs.com/offnetwork/b8dd0b68b56169be121fb5818dea849f.cf.webp[/img]

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by BLINGZ88: 8:56pm On Apr 13, 2016
Missile defence against a re-entry phase of up to Mach 10 with multiple counter measure nd decoy? Good luck shooting it down. Nd I would like to add that building a missle defence is more expensive than an attack missile so more missiles can be made that those to counter. Keep on kidding ur self

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by ValerianSteel(m): 10:00pm On Apr 13, 2016
China and Russia brought this on themselves cause they've openly romanced North Korea.Now that NK's nuclear program has festered beyond anyone's control.

If China had condemned NK a long term ago by slapping sanctions on them,they wouldn't be in the situation they find themselve in.Russia and China have been shipping materials that have enhanced NK's nuclear agenda for years.Now they baby has grown wings that can't be clipped easily.

North Korea's nuclear advancement gave South Korea an open window to invite America's long wanted opportunity to deploy sophisticated weaponry to the Korean peninsula.Now the United States has the perfect excuse and cover to monitor Chinese and Russian missiles.

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by MONITZ: 10:43pm On Apr 13, 2016
ValerianSteel:
China and Russia brought this on themselves cause they've openly romanced North Korea.Now that NK's nuclear program has festered beyond anyone's control.

If China had condemned NK a long term ago by slapping sanctions on them,they wouldn't be in the situation they find themselve in.Russia and China have been shipping materials that have enhanced NK's nuclear agenda for years.Now they baby has grown wings that can't be clipped easily.

North Korea's nuclear advancement gave South Korea an open window to invite America's long wanted opportunity to deploy sophisticated weaponry to the Korean peninsula.Now the United States has the perfect excuse and cover to monitor Chinese and Russian missiles.


Must you be unabashedly supportive of anything America and her allies do, can't you just be objective for once or better
still keep quiet when you are about towing your normal Pro-America line.
America can't be right all the time, the reactions of some of these countries are as a result of the blowback of some America policies toward any country in their so called "axis of evil".

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by ValerianSteel(m): 11:05pm On Apr 13, 2016
MONITZ:



Must you be unabashedly supportive of anything America and her allies do, can't you just be objective for once or better
still keep quiet when you are about towing your normal Pro-America line.
America can't be right all the time, the reactions of some of these countries are as a result of the blowback of some America policies toward any country in their so called "axis of evil".

To an intelligent mind,I believe my post was objective enough.

I simply called out China and Russia's failure to leash North Korea at the appropriate time.Instead they supported North Korea,even by supplying materials that enhanced North Korea's nuclear programme.They romanced North Korea just to spite the United States but now China,Russia and the US may as well share a common enemy in North Korea as Pyongyang isn't willing to put an end to it's nuclearization process.

I also clearly stated that the United States has long waited for an open window to deploy state of the art weaponry to the Korean peninsula on the pretext of protecting South Korea from North Korea.Rather it's part of a bigger plan to have eyes on Chinese missile technology.

Please state how any of these lacks objectivity?Cause I'm sure my points are self-explanatory enough.

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by Nobody: 1:21am On Apr 14, 2016
ValerianSteel:


I simply called out China and Russia's failure to leash North Korea at the appropriate time.


While ignoring & promoting Amerika's failure to leash ISIS, Al-qaeda, Al-shabaab, Boko Haram, Muslim Brotherhood & every other known terrorist franchise wrecking havoc all over the globe. grin

ValerianSteel:


I also clearly stated that the United States has long waited for an open window to deploy state of the art weaponry to the Korean peninsula on the pretext of protecting South Korea from North Korea.


Just like how Amerika waited to deploy state of the art weaponry to Syria on the pretext of fighting ISIS? grin

Commooooon, give me another definition of duplicity & triple standard . grin

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by ValerianSteel(m): 4:12am On Apr 14, 2016
Zoharariel:


While ignoring & promoting Amerika's failure to leash ISIS, Al-qaeda, Al-shabaab, Boko Haram, Muslim Brotherhood & every other known terrorist franchise wrecking havoc all over the globe. grin



Just like how Amerika waited to deploy state of the art weaponry to Syria on the pretext of fighting ISIS? grin

Commooooon, give me another definition of duplicity & triple standard . grin
Can we not digress and stay on course please.
Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by Missy89(f): 6:53am On Apr 14, 2016
ValerianSteel:
China and Russia brought this on themselves cause they've openly romanced North Korea.Now that NK's nuclear program has festered beyond anyone's control.

If China had condemned NK a long term ago by slapping sanctions on them,they wouldn't be in the situation they find themselve in.Russia and China have been shipping materials that have enhanced NK's nuclear agenda for years.Now they baby has grown wings that can't be clipped easily.

North Korea's nuclear advancement gave South Korea an open window to invite America's long wanted opportunity to deploy sophisticated weaponry to the Korean peninsula.Now the United States has the perfect excuse and cover to monitor Chinese and Russian missiles.

I was about to post exactly the same when i saw the topic.

It is obvious that China can no longer control NK. They only have themselves to blame.
Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by ValerianSteel(m): 7:24am On Apr 14, 2016
Missy89:


I was about to post exactly the same when i saw the topic.

It is obvious that China can no longer control NK. They only have themselves to blame.
They no longer can.North Korea has proven to care less who feeds them or who hates them.China can't tell if North Korea is still an ally.

To me it's good.Anything that keeps all three-(North Korea,China and Russia) in check is welcomed by me.
Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by NairaMinted: 10:17am On Apr 14, 2016
ValerianSteel:
They no longer can.North Korea has proven to care less who feeds them or who hates them.China can't tell if North Korea is still an ally.

To me it's good.Anything that keeps all three-(North Korea,China and Russia) in check is welcomed by me.

Oh, u forgot to add Iran and perhaps Venezuela and Cuba to your list. Lol!

You do realize that Russia's & China's history with North Korea dates back to the old Soviet area when they were all part of the same ideology bloc? You do realize that Russia (and China, I think) is also involved in sanctions against North Korea don't you?
Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by Missy89(f): 10:36am On Apr 14, 2016
NairaMinted:


Oh, u forgot to add Iran and perhaps Venezuela and Cuba to your list. Lol!

You do realize that Russia's & China's history with North Korea dates back to the old Soviet area when they were all part of the same ideology bloc? You do realize that Russia (and China, I think) is also involved in sanctions against North Korea don't you?


You know there is a difference between Maoism, Leninism and Juche right? China, Soviet Union and NK never had the same Ideology. In fact, The Soviets and the Chinese weren't the best of friends after the death of Stalin

Communism is not a single potato

Or why do you think Nixon normalized relations in '72

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by NairaMinted: 10:42am On Apr 14, 2016
Missy89:



You know there is a difference between Maoism, Leninism and Juche right? China, Soviet Union and NK never had the same Ideology. In fact, The Soviets and the Chinese weren't the best of friends after the death of Stalin

Communism is not a single potato


You are splitting hairs. On whose side were the Soviet Union & China on in the Korean War?
Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by NairaMinted: 10:45am On Apr 14, 2016
Normalized relations with China when he visited Mao right? Well, I don't know know much about that
Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by ValerianSteel(m): 10:53am On Apr 14, 2016
NairaMinted:


Oh, u forgot to add Iran and perhaps Venezuela and Cuba to your list. Lol!

You do realize that Russia's & China's history with North Korea dates back to the old Soviet area when they were all part of the same ideology bloc? You do realize that Russia (and China, I think) is also involved in sanctions against North Korea don't you?
Both Russia and China were reluctant to impose sanctions on North Korea in the first place.They did only through a UN lobby.They played oblivious to NK's quest to become a nuclear power just to spite the United States,but now NK may as well threaten all parties.Now they feel the need to do the right thing which they've failed to do for the past decade and a half.

Wouldn't it be fair if China and Russia admit to having aided North Korea all along supporting a country that may soon endanger world peace and stability.
Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by Missy89(f): 10:58am On Apr 14, 2016
NairaMinted:


You are splitting hairs. On whose side were the Soviet Union & China on in the Korean War?

Do you need simple translation?

You said, the trio had the same ideology. I asked if you knew the difference between Leninism, Maosim and Juche.
I said China and the Soviets weren't that close AFTER the death of Stalin, You are talking about the Korean war ( 1950-1953) Stalin died few months before it ended.

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by Missy89(f): 11:05am On Apr 14, 2016
NairaMinted:
Normalized relations with China when he visited Mao right? Well, I don't know know much about that

Yea. The idea was to isolate the Soviet Union since there was a Sino-Soviet split already. Red China abandoned the Russians mainly during Nikita Khrushchev's regime.

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by NairaMinted: 11:11am On Apr 14, 2016
Missy89:


Do you need simple translation?

You said, the trio had the same ideology. I asked if you knew the difference between Leninism, Maosim and Juche.
I said China and the Soviets weren't that close AFTER the death of Stalin, You are talking about the Korean war ( 1950-1953) Stalin died few months before it ended.


Now I'm confused.

I am pointing out that North Korea, the Soviet Union and China back in the days were allies more or less so much so that they fought together in the Korean War primarily cos of the communist system of government that each of these countries ran. What flavour of communism (Lenism, Maoism, Juche) that they operated, I was stressing when I said you were splitting hairs, is irrelevant in the context of the strategic goals each country sought (and the common enemy that they had in Amerika).

Are u saying that Stalin was the unifying factor between China and the Soviet Union?
Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by Missy89(f): 11:29am On Apr 14, 2016
NairaMinted:


Now I'm confused.

I am pointing out that North Korea, the Soviet Union and China back in the days were allies more or less so much so that they fought together in the Korean War primarily cos of the communist system of government that each of these countries ran. What flavour of communism (Lenism, Maoism, Juche) that they operated, I was stressing when I said you were splitting hairs, is irrelevant in the context of the strategic goals each country sought (and the common enemy that they had in Amerika).

Are u saying that Stalin was the unifying factor between China and the Soviet Union?


Yes. Stalin was the unifying factor between the two.

When Stalin died, the communist party in the soviet union denounced most of his policies and legacies and were seen as traitors by the Chinese communist party.

The relevance of the 3 different types of communist ideology is actually very important in the context of their strategic goals. The soviet union DID NOT see the west as the enemy. More like rivals and believed there could be a peaceful coexistence but that ideology was untenable to the Chinese mainly because they both had different interpretations of Marxism–Leninism for good reasons (Leninist revolutionary theory was difficult to apply in China because it was still very backward at the time)

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by omoiseselagba: 3:06pm On Apr 14, 2016
MONITZ:



Must you be unabashedly supportive of anything America and her allies do, can't you just be objective for once or better
still keep quiet when you are about towing your normal Pro-America line.
America can't be right all the time, the reactions of some of these countries are as a result of the blowback of some America policies toward any country in their so called "axis of evil".

THE GUY IS JEWISH.SO WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM HIM? I CANT WAIT FOR THE WESTERN WORLD TO START WW3.I WANT TO SEE HOW AMERICA AND THAT TINY LITTLE PUSSYY CALLED ISRAEL WILL BE DESTROYED.

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Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by mazeltov(m): 7:18pm On Apr 14, 2016
This statement caught my attention ""China has maintained its opposition to the THAAD deployment, saying the system could be used to monitor its missile launches as far inland as Xian in the northwest.""
Re: THAAD In Korean Peninsula:russia,china Concerned Over Possible US Missile System by ValerianSteel(m): 7:43pm On Apr 14, 2016
mazeltov:
This statement caught my attention ""China has maintained its opposition to the THAAD deployment, saying the system could be used to monitor its missile launches as far inland as Xian in the northwest.""
THAAD deployment to the peninsula would warrant an American operational base in the peninsula which would oversee the operation of THAAD.

The United States could use this as a window to create a monitoring outpost on missile activities in China with support of American satelites.The US will be able to gather more intel on Chinese missile technology and also access the effectiveness of Chinese missile programmes.

Also THAAD poses a threat to Chinese aerial superiority over South Korea which means any unidentified missile flying over SK will be obliterated.THAAD may stall Chinese missile testing.

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