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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 3:49am On Apr 14, 2016 |
n3xt: Furniture are no more contrabands. You can ask from licensed agents. I am prepared to bring them in. I am only looking at options of buying in Lagos if I can find imported ones that can fit my taste. I have been doing window shopping in the last three weeks and settled for the different living-room sets. The place is only 10 minutes drive from my house. http://www.roomstogo.com/product/Living-Room-Sets/Piedmont-Gray-5-Pc-Sectional-Living-Room/1019215P/ http://www.roomstogo.com/product/Living-Room-Sets/Cindy-Crawford-Home-Alpen-Ridge-Tan-7-Pc-Living-Room/1088626P/ http://www.roomstogo.com/product/Living-Room-Sets/Sofia-Vergara-Mandalay-Charcoal-5-Pc-Living-Room/1091530P/ http://www.roomstogo.com/furniture/Living-Rooms/Living-Room-Sets/_/N-8ew?No=0&Nrpp=1000 There is a big furniture sale coming up at the end of July in the furniture capital of the USA (North Carolina) that I'm prepared to be part of. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:54am On Apr 14, 2016 |
FastShipping: This is a goodnews. The only thing I still buy in Naija is tiles and of course, carefully selected original ones. Every other thing are shipped in by my guys who knew exactly what rocks my boat. Those things are crazily expensive here. Person wey no get money like me for routine maintenance or upgrades no fit afford rework. Everything has to be quality upfront. It doesn't matter how long it took. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:53am On Apr 14, 2016 |
Meanwhile, I'm a collector. I won't finish a stylish posh house and person go come go put plastic chair. I do interior furnishing also. Checkout some cool stuffs from my scrapbook. Bathrooms in black. ______ Last pic below is one of my light collection for the black bath and I believe Alan Caray will give me any of the faucets in the pics.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by crisisng: 10:11am On Apr 14, 2016 |
Thank you my Oga for taking the time to respond. I totally understand where you are coming from you and I appreciate the way you are trying to solve all these issues. One cannot do business and continually fight their clients. The business wont last. I am glad you now have water tight contracts in place to close any misunderstanding or gaps. I don't think your clients would have fought to take their jobs off you for no good reason (from their side). With all the work you do here no sane client will choose to part with you unless they feel the need to so some misunderstanding must have arisen somewhere. I don't think there is a need to try and compare your work to theirs because I don't think any of them is competing with you in anyway. Parting companies does not necessarily mean you did a bad job. It could be a number of other reasons but I don't think competition was one of them. Like I said I follow your threads/works with an open mind and I really enjoy your innovative ideas. I just think small things needs to be amended in working practices but like you said you are only human like the rest of us so you are fallible like the rest of us Also I saw some of work where you put up pictures of mid range finishing which looked very good. For things like that it's nice to have a cost element attached to it so that someone looking at it will appreciate the cost of doing such. As you know your idea of midrange will be different to mine and others. The pictures you put up here in my opinion (with my small pocket) looks like high end finishing but that's just me. As you know everyone wants good things but we also want it at a cost that we can afford so what will help in the future is to put some figures to such pictures. Now I am not expecting everything to the last naira but something like the following will suffice: description: 4 bedroom ensuite, 2 living rooms, 1 dinning room, kitchen etc.. type of finishing: mid range cost: between 5m-7m What you get: furniture, floorings, paint, etc. Just a rough idea so that when we come come across your work we can have an idea of what it will cost to do certain levels of finishing. Here in Nigeria we tend to say things and that nail it down to the last detail and these often leads to misunderstandings where client and contractor don't agree. keep up the good work..... n3xt: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 10:26am On Apr 14, 2016 |
Eko is moving forward #ambodeisworking l n3xt: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 10:48am On Apr 14, 2016 |
If the papa own the land originally your friend needs to make sure that he gets a deed of assignment from him papa before he spends anymore kobo on it. If not even him stepmum and other siblings will come after him. My take is for him to sell and build elsewhere. Especially with the utterances from his dad.. All his dad will give him if anything is the cost of the land which is nothing. Empiree: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:49am On Apr 14, 2016 |
@ crisisng, I want to believe this is what you're referring to. https://www.nairaland.com/1793643/nexthome-project-gallery A catalog of NextHome projects with costs and expected deliverables can be found on this thread which was opened in 2014. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 2:20pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
gabbytabby:That sucks |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 6:00pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by debbyx(m): 6:42pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
segcymoor:i [color=#006600][/color] We have at lakowe phase II Kindly let's know if your client is interested in that area. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:47pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
debbyx: [s]Lakowe - Awoyaya - Abijo - Mayfair Garden - Sangotedo - LBS - Abraham Adesanya - Thomas Estate - Ajah - Ilaje - VGC -[/s] Ikota - Chevron - Agungi Oga, Lakowe too far na. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by segcymoor(m): 7:58pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
n3xt:Baburus n3xt:Baburus |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:32pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
segcymoor: Yes nau! This platform is used majorly by people in diaspora who had no idea of where most locations mentioned by the property agents are. So, to avoid confusion, I think it's fair to let people know the distance between different locations so as not to get into any confusion. Why will I have a budget of 40m for 1000sqm and the proposal I'm getting is Lakowe? The thing no jell na. If I choose to deduct N1m for each bus stop between Lakowe and Agungi, nothing go remain for ground. Again, Lakowe is no alternative for Agungi! For every one plot of land in Agungi/Ikota/Chrevron, there's a 10 plot or more in Lakowe/Abijo/Awoyaya. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 10:42pm On Apr 14, 2016 |
.....tell me. Maybe you guys should paste map of lagos island on this thread so we can all learn with a table of travel distance between location NOBODY HAS THE MONOPOLY OF WISDOM |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by csiworksnig(f): 12:03am On Apr 15, 2016 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 12:52am On Apr 15, 2016 |
mufutau55:Really crazy. What kind of making me uncomfortable is despite knowing baba is guilty folks(brothers, sister, mom) keep telling my friend to be patient and stop building project while surveyor, attny are telling him to fence the place. But none of the family talk to dad cus he doesnt make himself friendly. They put pressure on my friend not to escalate to court. If they want him to be patient they simply need to talk to dad too to give up docs whether he wants to listen or not. The reason he's upset and doesn't want to give up docs is bcus he's not getting his share of the money anymore. Well, wanna try using power of attorney to get him give up docs. He's fraud |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 11:28am On Apr 15, 2016 |
Correct. You fit get 1m plot for Lakowe sef. n3xt: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 11:30am On Apr 15, 2016 |
babalose: Google maps is your friend. I was surprised to see my village oh. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 11:49am On Apr 15, 2016 |
If your friend na yoruba even if him papa kill him pikin purposefully na so them go say fowowonu. His father can do no wrong in their eyes. It is these extremities that I say is wrong with the culture. They virtually excuse anything and in so doing create a total lack of accountability and psychopathic tendency. He can give the peacemakers time if they are capable of seeking peace. He can explore the mediation or gboromiro option and if all fails then he has to decide if he wants to let go and move on or get his just reward through the courts. Empiree: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 12:08am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Better days are coming soon, Chiinese(operators of Quarries) around Abeokuta and evirons as no excuses, with the currency deal PMB sign with Chinese authority. For now Granite sell @ N2,500/ton Stonedust @ N700/ton Call now: 08055545355, 08098055224, 08032887233, 08025392565. https://www.nairaland.com/1198629/building-made-easy-granite-lead/13 |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:42am On Apr 16, 2016 |
Chekitaut: My question is why are Nigerians not operating these quary in the face place or we don't have people that can invest in these machines? Our love for middle man job is so alarming, we technically hate anything that will demand high level of thinking. The last time I was in calabar quary, I saw Chinese everywhere milking us dry |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 9:23am On Apr 16, 2016 |
abdulwastecx:I wonder, our money stolen is taking to foreign country. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smiley001(m): 11:09am On Apr 16, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: There is corruption with every black man. Quarries run by blacks don't last 6 months, if it lasts longer u queue for 2 days to get 3/4 down, the staff members in every department in black man quarry only think of how to make extra, illegal and side money. And these will surely affect the sustainability of the quarry. If u go to any quarry and see a black man as the scaleman, just know 100% that you would be cheated. While quarries fully operated by the white skinned last many years. The reason for this, I do not know. I can't say poverty because those white skinned ppl that do d line jobs in the quarries are also poor by their look but they will never compromise unlike the blacks. 90% of those Chinese and Asians you see doing those labour work of the quarries are mostly prisoners. I had interviewed them before so I know what I'm saying. In all, it's corruption affecting black man to fully and efficiently operate a quarry because up to the director cadre thinks of making money for himsef but not the company. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 11:53am On Apr 16, 2016 |
smiley001: I may have to disagree with you sir, I don't even consider Chinese to be white, another discussion for another days. It is not down to corruption sir, it is down to our culture instant money. Operating a qaury is capital intensive and you need to invest all these money that it will take you a lot years to get your investment back hence our people are not ready to wait that long. You can have a quary fully automated where people pay electronically and the quantity of material bought are measured to customer and this will go in a long way to cut down irregularities 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Xzevian(m): 12:20pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Lack of good management is the problem confronting our nigeria bleeps that go into the business. The first modernize quarry we have in Abeokuta even ogun state is AGI but the quarry almost fold up after some years because of our people passion for corruption started frm stealing company diesel and diversion of several millions of naira by their top management which reduce the quarry to almost non-existence, as that one is not enough, nearly all their staff engaged in diabolical means against each other In order to get away with whatever they have did. Even to the extent that ordinary gateman have several thousands if not millions in his bank account, low and behold the first modernize quarry became the shadow of itself. Another one is DLK quarry odeda own by a nigerian but lack of good management/coordination and passion for quick rich of the trusted management quickly that one to oblivion though we still have one own by wale sarander which I can say is not fully on ground The next one is OBA quarry owned by baba obasanjo but later handed over to chinese for lack of accountability by those in charge. The handing over of oba quarry beginning the existence of chinese in quarry business in Ogun state because of the way they turned arround The quarry. This is how they started bring in themselves from china to establish quarry in various axis of Abeokuta successfully without being fold up like our indigenous investor because you hadly see any nigerian in any strategic position that will make them steal their money. The coming in of chinese started easing the stress we supplier encounter because they made everything easy for us including price and better service for those of us that invest with them not like before that we only have two or three quarries like libolb, AGI. The chinese started their dominance from olodo quarry and orile-ilugun CNC quarry when our people started romancing them and telling them hw they have control on price without carrying along those invested with them and promise them their backup in returns to what chinese will offer them. Chinese quickly see this as a big opportunity to gain dominance quickly dance to their tune by offer them freely monthly salary including discount price in returns for their rebellion. The result of all this is what we are witness today as the rest is history and this is why you always see those chinese quarries having one or two nigerian that front for them against their people . In simple term, we are the problem of ourselves ...... alot of Judas among us which has made it almost impossible to have common front. Pardon me for the little errors as all I can remember now is granite 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gidikay: 12:27pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 1:02pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Xzevian: Very interesting sir... 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Xzevian(m): 1:29pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
A Chinese has once told me that even if they sell at 1000 per tons they would still make good profit, he told me they make all their investment capital in 1st yr or at worst 1 and half yr. They least the land in which they use and not buying them outrightly abdulwastecx: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by smiley001(m): 1:49pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: Bro I didn't mean Chinese white ppl but only used white skinned. I know who white(Caucasian etc) are no need for any discussion with me on this for another day. There are many quarries which are owned by Nigerians, when I say Nigerians...prominent, popular and rich ones but the chinese manage them and front for them. I can say 1 or 2 that is owned by a Top Senator that has been in the Senate since 1999 up till now. They are well funded. Another one, there used to be 2 quarries in the south west owned by 2 Nigerian friends but run by the chinese. When the chinese were in charge, things were smooth but when these 2 friends had quarrel due to political differences, one went to another party. They had to split property and the chinese left... Up till now those 2 quarries work epileptically and even one has closed down permanently. What you do not know is not all those quarries you see managed by the chinese are owned by them... Few are owned by the Top Nigerians. Another example is ESPRO Asphalt Production and Quarry Company where I worked when it started operation on ibadan - ife express way wasinmi Ikire, Osun state during Oyinlolas term was brought to Nigeria by the late Ooni of ife Oba Sijuade but everyday activity of the company is run by the Turkish ppl from Turkey and up till tomorrow, the chairman of that company would always be Late Oonis son. This I know because I was a full staff there. It's corruption that's affecting quarries managed by nigerians... That's all i can say. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 2:00pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
Xzevian:oga, u have said it all |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Xzevian(m): 2:10pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
agarawu23:thanks boss! Na so our pple make us fall hand yakata. slavery in one fatherland is the other of the day. We hope sanity return in no distance time 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Empiree: 3:53pm On Apr 16, 2016 |
mufutau55:I dont understand people at all. I follow this case very well. The matter is heading to close in favor of my friend. Guess what happened lately, everyone i:e my friend's siblings(older ones) and his mom and step mom now pressuring my fiend to give up the place for papa. Telling him to buy elsewhere. They said "we know papa is wrong what he did but we dont want issue that will break up family over worldly matter". Another brother, the eldest who had dealt with papa on this issue when he bought land from papa but papa took the land from him and resold it to him like 3 times and still he doesnt have the land. Which means papa has record of cheating his loins. But my friend never had that experience with papa. So now eldest brother is telling him to let go the place, that he should never have had anything to do with papa. He said ask him to sell the land and house and you share the money and build yours elsewhere. This statement coming out from his brother sound very ridiculous. His eldest brothers put him on "conference call". So my friend bullsh!t all of them. He cursed them out saying "nobody wants to talk to papa to calm down and give back docs etc but everyone put pressure on me. So basically, he feels like he had to lose the place he worked for. And he said to his brothers to f!ck off that he would do it the legal way, he doesnt care about family or biological father knowing fully well his father could definitely sell the place base on what he experienced with his brothers. Yes, papa sold their lands and resold it to them like 3x. But none of them had developed theirs. But my friend already developed his and spent millions on it. And asking him to give it up easily like that?. He said Never. So he connected with Attny 2days ago and ones attny noticed it is his biological father involved, he said let's take it through peaceful way first. If he gives it up... no case. If not then we use power of attny and police. So basically this is what siblings and mom said too (to talk to him but papa never made himself friendly with no one) but none of them talked to papa to peacefully give up. Instead papa is telling my friend that he would deny taking money from him to build anything. Now what do you expect him to do or say when papa said something like that?. Attny even asked if any member of the family talked to papa?. So now my friend peacefully called papa and to his surprise, papa talked nice that "i dont need your land. It is yours but becus everyone accused me and ganged up on me that's why i threatened to sell it. I dont need your lands. When you ready, ask someone to come for it". So my friend cautiously said Attny will come for it just to be on the safe side in case he changes his mind to be stubborn again. So now, his brothers thought he would never use attny bcus no one has ever done that to papa. As a result, they got furious why he would do that?. "We told u to calm down and resolve it peacefully but you didnt listen to us. Now it took outsider to tell you same thing which means you disrespect us". Now everyone gangs up on my friend for "disobeying and disrespecting them". In addition, my friend sent 100k to papa's account to keep him shut and give up the possesion. I am sure papa will not say that to all his "enemies" What i dont understand is why would they now blame him when, in fact, his eldest brothers had similar problems with papa and still have it. But the reason their is not much of a threat was bcus it was just land. They have not spent a dime on it. They act like they dont understand my friend's frustration struggling abroad and someone threatening to sell his life investment. How else should he react to such threat?. Right now, attny will collect the docs, send it to my friend and case close. Then he should just give it time for everything to calm before continuing the project. What a world. In a nutshell, his brothers and mom tried to interject religion and culture to subdue my friend which my friend said "i dont give a f!ck about it. This makes them angry and they consider it insult. They dont want to understand the frustration. Yes, he may have gone overboard with language he used talking to them but all these years he was calmed when everyone said papa mismanaged his funds. He defended papa that there is no evidence for the allegation levied against papa. He was never upset. Why now that he busted and everyone turned against him. He did what he had to do and it works well for him. Lobatan |
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